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Germany's Anti-Nuclear Stance Is a Warning Brazil Can't Ignore PDF Print E-mail
2011 - June 2011
Written by Cristovam Buarque   
Friday, 24 June 2011 22:35

Brazil's Angra Nuclear Plant In 2009, I went to Chernobyl. Thirty years after the accident it was still not easy to get authorization to visit the place and see the ruins of the nuclear reactor. I received permission to spend a maximum of six hours at the site. The landscape that I had the opportunity to see was frightening, desolate, a scene of nuclear devastation without the explosion. Silent, smokeless.

I was able to visit buildings, schools, restaurants, recreation centers, all abandoned, phantasmagoric, in spite of the beauty of the white snow surrounding them. A Ferris wheel from a children's amusement park remained intact in anticipation of the opening day, which was to be the day after the tragedy. The houses had been invaded by the trees growing inside them. Soon everything will be a forest; only the mausoleum of the reactor will remain, surrounded by the highest buildings.

All indications are that the horror began when the managers of the generator made an error, allowing an engineer to test to what point it would be possible for the reactor to operate securely. He lost control and the reactor exploded, emitting the terrible radiation. Despite "glasnost," the Soviet government chose to keep the information secret for a few hours until analysts in Finland perceived the strong increase of radiation in that region and revealed the matter to the world.

After the news was divulged, the Soviet government decided to evacuate the two cities: the old, modest, almost medieval Chernobyl, with its little wooden houses; the new one, ostentatious and modern, a miniature Brasília, the official headquarters of the services and residences of the generator employees.

Carrying only the clothes on their backs, tens of thousands of people, who were already contaminated, were obliged to leave the city in a few minutes. Their clothes were soon shed and thrown into the garbage classified as contaminated.

After almost six hours spent walking around, speaking with the officials of the affected area, and looking at the radioactivity meters scattered around the city, I had to pass through a full-body radiation detector in order to learn whether I would return to the hotel or be put into isolation in one of the country's hospitals.

A visit to Chernobyl reveals a frightening scene. Even worse is the perception that comes from talking with people who lived 200 kilometers away and even today must bear the health effects upon their families. Worse of all is reading about the thousands of deaths over these 30 years, the people who will be ill for their entire lives and others who will transmit illnesses to the children who have not yet been born.

That visit made me change my position: I no longer see the nuclear alternative as clean energy. Fukushima consolidated my antagonism towards the use of nuclear reactors as a way of generating energy. At least as long as civil engineering has not evolved to guarantee absolute resistance in the buildings and nuclear engineering cannot guarantee secure residue storage. This does not mean saying "Nuclear Never!" It means declaring a moratorium of 20 years to wait for an evolution in the engineering.

At the present, the construction of nuclear generators is rash bordering upon criminal. This even includes maintaining the current ones and living under the risk of possible tragedy at any given moment. Instead of new nuclear centers, Brazil needs to reduce its consumption of energy and invest in new sources that are renewable and less dangerous.

The German government's decision last month - establishing a schedule to deactivate their nuclear generators - is a warning that Brazil has no right to ignore.

The German generators are in more protected places than ours; their civil defense systems are better organized; their dependence upon nuclear energy is 23% of their total energy demand, while ours is merely 3%. And Germany does not have the alternative energy sources that we do.

Since Germany is frightened, it will be a crime for us to close our eyes to this matter. Above all, when we recall that we imported the old technology that the Germans developed and that no longer works for them.

Cristovam Buarque is a professor at the University of Brasília and a PDT senator for the Federal District.  You can visit his website at www.cristovam.org.br/portal2/, follow him on Twitter at http://twitter.com/SEN_CRISTOVAM in Portuguese and http://twitter.com/cbbrazilianview in English and write to him at cristovam@senado.gov.br

New translations of his works of fiction The Subterranean Gods and Astricia are now available on Amazon.com.

Translated from the Portuguese by Linda Jerome (LinJerome@cs.com).



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I agree . . . but . . .
written by capnamerca, June 24, 2011
Brazil should definitely get out of the nuclear power industry, and also invest in truly renewable energy sources such as wind, thermal, and solar. Hydropower is NOT indefinitely renewable, nor is it clean energy. Just ask Chavez how well hydro works as he sucks power from Brazil's grid while Brazilians pay for it.
Here is the real truth about Libya and Gaddafi
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 26, 2011

Ricardo: Gaddafi should defend his people and his country against the vicious attack that rogue organization called "NATO".

How to Stop the Unfair Demonisation of Gaddafi by the Western Powers? June 25, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaR5lB5BKwQ&NR=1


Wayne Madsen and the Extreme Propaganda War on Libya - June 25, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01L72MqH5_w

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Correction
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 26, 2011

Ricardo: Gaddafi should defend his people and his country against the vicious attack that the rogue organization called "NATO" is inflicting on Libya.
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, June 26, 2011

You, Ederson and I have something in common, Ricardo. To introduce unrelated topics under the articles of others and take command of the respective threads.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

For example, I ´m still trying to figure out what Gaddafi has to do with "Germany´s Anti-Nuclear Stance" or our good friend Sen.Buarque who has not said a word about Cel.Mohammar or the "revolution" sweeping around the Arab world (at least to my knowledge).smilies/shocked.gif
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 27, 2011

Ricardo: Joao, you said: “You, Ederson and I have something in common, Ricardo. To introduce unrelated topics under the articles of others and take command of the respective threads.”

You are right about that.

Anyway, I like to remind you that in more than one article I suggested the development of further nuclear technology in Brazil.

We have two nuclear power plants here in the United States in the state of Nebraska that are in the process of becoming the latest Fukushimas, since the water of the river is going to inundate these these nuclear power plants and create a massive nuclear mess worse than in Japan.

We need to let the dust settle first, and then we can make a sensible and an educated decision on this subject.

Everything is getting worse here in the US economy, and here is some of the latest up date:

You can ask me how bad?

It's getting this pathetic, for example: I posted this info on the Elite Trader Economics forum and on Facebook:

June 27, 2011

SouthAmerica: Americans are so clueless about what is happening to the state of the US economy, that CNN decided to show to the American people where the US mainstream media is getting their expert advice these days regarding the US economy as follows:.

CNN: Psychics On Future Of U.S. Economy – June 24, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...tn:mptnews

The US government is using all the tools that they still have available at their disposal on their effort to turn around the US economy, and right now they are using even CNN for that purpose.


*****


Banks are worried as Wall Street crumbles – June 26, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zty3anJTI50


*****


June 27, 2011

SouthAmerica: Reply to Nutmeg

I don't agree with your conclusion regarding Al Gore.

If anything the Democrats should be glad that they have a candidate of the caliber of Al Gore to step in
to replace Barack Obama.

Barack Obama is just a puppet of Wall Street and the international bankers, and he has been a complete disappointment in every way. I am not surprised that each day that goes by the United States find itself in worse shape than before, since Barack Obama became president he surrounded himself with 3rd-rate people such as Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, and many others.

Barack Obama just brought Paul Volcker to his administration to use the old man's prestige, and nothing else, and he never listened to Paul Volcker's advice on anything.

It does not matter that Barack Obama can win re-election that means the country will continue going down the toilet, and it will continue descending into the first Great Depression of the 21st century.

A Republican win it would be even worse for the country.

In a nutshell: The United States is descending into a new great depression, and we need a leader of the caliber of Al Gore to guide the United States economy in the perfect storm that is ahead of us.

Electing Al Gore as president in 2012 it would be like trowing a Hail Mary pass at the end of the game and hope for the best – and the alternative, a Barack Obama re-election, or a new Republican president it would be the equivalent of going down with the Titanic.

Nutmeg, as you can see it is desperation time for the US economy – basically the game is over - it's time for the final Hail Mary pass.


*****


'Libyan gold was globalist game all along' – June 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related

Brazilians have not grasped as yet, but Wall Street is setting up the Brazilian government and Brazilian companies to a similar collapse followed by total pillage of any Brazilian asset.

Look at Greece and Libya and that is what is in the pipeline for Brazil - Pillage, Pillage and Pillage....

That's why the United States has been building seven military bases in Colombia, and we don't even have a major war going on in South America.


*****


Paul Craig Roberts: Will Washington Foment War Between China and India? - June 22, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related

Alex talks with economist Paul Craig Roberts - Roberts served as an Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration and is a former editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal, Business Week, and Scripps Howard News Service. His articles appear widely across the alternative media. Dr. Roberts' latest book is How the Economy Was Lost: The War of the Worlds.

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Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 27, 2011

Ricardo: Joao, you said: “You, Ederson and I have something in common, Ricardo. To introduce unrelated topics under the articles of others and take command of the respective threads.”

You are right about that.

Anyway, I like to remind you that in more than one article I suggested the development of further nuclear technology in Brazil.

We have two nuclear power plants here in the United States in the state of Nebraska that are in the process of becoming the latest Fukushimas, since the water of the river is going to inundate these these nuclear power plants and create a massive nuclear mess worse than in Japan.

We need to let the dust settle first, and then we can make a sensible and an educated decision on this subject.

Everything is getting worse here in the US economy, and here is some of the latest up date:

You can ask me how bad?

It's getting this pathetic, for example: I posted this info on the Elite Trader Economics forum and on Facebook:

June 27, 2011

SouthAmerica: Americans are so clueless about what is happening to the state of the US economy, that CNN decided to show to the American people where the US mainstream media is getting their expert advice these days regarding the US economy as follows:.

CNN: Psychics On Future Of U.S. Economy – June 24, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...tn:mptnews

The US government is using all the tools that they still have available at their disposal on their effort to turn around the US economy, and right now they are using even CNN for that purpose.


*****


Banks are worried as Wall Street crumbles – June 26, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zty3anJTI50


*****


June 27, 2011

SouthAmerica: Reply to Nutmeg

I don't agree with your conclusion regarding Al Gore.

If anything the Democrats should be glad that they have a candidate of the caliber of Al Gore to step in
to replace Barack Obama.

Barack Obama is just a puppet of Wall Street and the international bankers, and he has been a complete disappointment in every way. I am not surprised that each day that goes by the United States find itself in worse shape than before, since Barack Obama became president he surrounded himself with 3rd-rate people such as Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, and many others.

Barack Obama just brought Paul Volcker to his administration to use the old man's prestige, and nothing else, and he never listened to Paul Volcker's advice on anything.

It does not matter that Barack Obama can win re-election that means the country will continue going down the toilet, and it will continue descending into the first Great Depression of the 21st century.

A Republican win it would be even worse for the country.

In a nutshell: The United States is descending into a new great depression, and we need a leader of the caliber of Al Gore to guide the United States economy in the perfect storm that is ahead of us.

Electing Al Gore as president in 2012 it would be like trowing a Hail Mary pass at the end of the game and hope for the best – and the alternative, a Barack Obama re-election, or a new Republican president it would be the equivalent of going down with the Titanic.

Nutmeg, as you can see it is desperation time for the US economy – basically the game is over - it's time for the final Hail Mary pass.


*****


'Libyan gold was globalist game all along' – June 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related

Brazilians have not grasped as yet, but Wall Street is setting up the Brazilian government and Brazilian companies to a similar collapse followed by total pillage of any Brazilian asset.

Look at Greece and Libya and that is what is in the pipeline for Brazil - Pillage, Pillage and Pillage....

That's why the United States has been building seven military bases in Colombia, and we don't even have a major war going on in South America.


*****


Paul Craig Roberts: Will Washington Foment War Between China and India? - June 22, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related

Alex talks with economist Paul Craig Roberts - Roberts served as an Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration and is a former editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal, Business Week, and Scripps Howard News Service. His articles appear widely across the alternative media. Dr. Roberts' latest book is How the Economy Was Lost: The War of the Worlds.

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Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, June 27, 2011

I read today that the International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrant for Col.Gaddafi. Does this court have their own cops to deliver the warrant and arrest that gentleman? smilies/shocked.gif
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 27, 2011

Ricardo: To tell you the truth Joao, I have no use for the International Criminal Court, the World Bank, the IMF, and the United Nations.

And NATO is just a rogue criminal organization today.

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Brazzil.com
written by Ederson, June 27, 2011
This blog site has, for several years, spoken of the approaching Islamic crisis developing in northern Nigeria. Sufi Islam would like a part of Nigeria and is willing to put Nigeria to the sword.
How interesting that Libya tormented this branch of Islam for as long as it did, with Gaddafi leading the charge. Talk about changing times!smilies/cheesy.gif Now the crazy Colonel is cursing the sight of Saudi-led militancy taking over his country, much less the sight of NATO warplanes and missiles overhead!
Maybe I'm wrong, but I can only imagine that Omar would do anything to have the much more relaxed Sufi return to Libya as a backyard-defense against the Saudis and Shiites.
But now the Sufi are arming? How interesting! One wonders if soon, with the good Colonel in such trouble, if the Sufi will also make a play for Libya against the Sunni and Shiites. I kind of hope so!smilies/wink.gif However, I hate thinking of what rests in Nigeria's immediate future.
Ederson
written by João da Silva, June 27, 2011

Maybe I'm wrong, but I can only imagine that Omar would do anything to have the much more


Excuse me, Eddie. I am more confused than ever.smilies/sad.gif Who is this Omar? You talking about Moammar?
Africa's King of Kings
written by Ederson, June 27, 2011
Joao, sorry. In August of 2008, Moammar, or Omar, was pronounced "King of Kings of Africa." However, those of us with a deeper appreciation of Libya's leader for life often cut through the embelishments by just calling him Omar.smilies/cheesy.gif Interestingly enough, ABC, a media network in Yankeeland, once listed nearly a hundred names by which the Libyan president has been recognized. I am jealous. I'll forever be known as the simple, down-to-earth, peasant-oriented Eddie.
However, around the house, I'm often known as the lord of the recliner, especially during weekend teas.smilies/wink.gif
...
written by Simpleton, June 27, 2011
Com'on now Eddie, you may very well be Lord of the Recliner but if you are still getting at least a weekend tease, you are doing much better than you let on.

Did you forget about one of your other names like "Minister of Da Fence"? We hope you always clear them. With your usual talent and luck it's probably a rare occasion for you to end up contributing to the pile of spare aircraft parts in the paddock or hung in the tree line. (The backlog of things needing to be mended is never ending.)

Peas an Tori Ented? (Peasant-oriented) I thought Ents were mythical from J.R.R. Tolkien fame and that alot of early american pea farmers went from being Tories to being Federalists. Do you still have both Ents and Tories there in the outbacks Eddie? Would they side with the German's on the war against nuclear power?
Here is the Dumbest man in Brazil
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 28, 2011

Feeding A Crocodile With Barehands In Brazil – June 23, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciWKOG9wbSw

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Regarding nuclear technology
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 28, 2011

Breaking news-THOUSANDS EVACUATED NEAR NUCLEAR PLANTS – June 28, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...dded#at=47

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International Bankers - "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" and Libya
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 28, 2011

Engdahl: Libya intervention absurd, NATO criminal – June 27, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUMc_ULnluA


Bankers raping and pillaging Libya. Goldman Sachs and Colonel Gaddafi – June 23, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...r_embedded

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Simpleton and tea!
written by Ederson, June 28, 2011
Simpleton, you make me laugh!smilies/cheesy.gif I meant teas, as in tea, not tease! And yes, it has been a long time since I added to the junk pile, but I have my stories.smilies/wink.gif For instance, if you ever have to land on an abandoned road because your dinner is not settling well, always shut off your engine when you step climb from the pilot's seat. Airplanes are often smarter than their pilots and sometimes think they can fly without one!smilies/wink.gif Best yet, don't hurry a meal; always take enough time to enjoy your tea and crumpets.
The junkyard airplane will be a fun airplane for my oldest. He just graduated from college and can now write and speak English in the manner of a Yankee. I'm very proud of him.

The Islamic struggle for Nigeria is becoming increasingly interesting for me. Of course, it is again Sunni verses Shiite, but the determined actions of Sufi factions will make it more interesting and for sure even more bloody. I think the King of African Kings, whatever you call him,smilies/wink.gifwishes he had left his local branch of Sufi alone. What an interesting world.
Ederson
written by João da Silva, June 28, 2011

Thanks for clarifying about "Omar". For a moment, I thought you were talking about that one eyed fella "Mullah Omar" who is supposed to be leading the Taliban and Al-Queda in Afghanistan!

The Islamic struggle for Nigeria is becoming increasingly interesting for me. Of course, it is again Sunni verses Shiite, but the determined actions of Sufi factions will make it more interesting and for sure even more bloody


I can understand about Nigeria to a certain extent, since I have read its history. Poverty in spite of its oil wealth, corruption, civil war, etc; But from what I understand, Col.Omar has used the oil revenue of his country to better the lives of its citizens. As far as I know, he doesn't have one foot in Libya and the other in England or the U.S., unlike many African leaders. Sure this guy is a dictator, but he doesn't seem to be hated by his own people.

So far we have been reading only about the struggle between Sunnis vs Shiites. Now you have brought up this new faction the "Surfis". It is all mind boggling for a simple peasant like me.smilies/sad.gif But in due course, I intend researching about this faction of the Islamism.smilies/cool.gif

Another interesting development in the Geopolitical scene is the "likely" departure of Col.Omar´s South American counterpart, Col.Hugo. He had promised political asylum to the "King of all the African Kings", in the event he decided to quit the power. However, he himself is in a hospital in Havana and some say he is unlikely to survive.smilies/sad.gif So what happens if Col.Moamar is arrested by ICC and put on a trial? He has no place to flee to (except Havana perhaps?). I think during the next few months, the world is in for big surprises.smilies/wink.gif

I know you are busy resurrecting the old flying machine of yours. But when you take a "Tea and Crumpets" break, please do share your thoughts with your less informed brethren. smilies/wink.gif

Leave Omar alone
written by Ederson, June 28, 2011
Joao, I have to agree with you. NATO's extermination plot against Omar is going to create a host of problems, and America's 75 percent funding effort is not warranted.
Libya is a backwards country populated by tribesmen who are far from ready to accept democracy in the form the West wishes. As a country, Libya must take baby steps before it can run with the pack. However strange it may seem, the invention and insertion of Omar into libya's leadership may have served a worthy purpose for those who cared to analyze the situation in greater detail. Indeed, Omar was working on behalf of other African nations less well off than his own.
Who will NATO select to replace him? I'm sure no one with the force of "will" to do what is right in the most difficult times. The truth us, and no one will admit it, that Omar was the West's best ally against Islamic extremism and a needed focus point for other African countries.

Not Surfis, but Sufis.smilies/wink.gif Surfing the Sahara? I like the imagery! They are the Islamic moderates, and very interesting. Their dance and customs have long been at odds with orthodox Islam, but they are still out there and, somewhere, may yet have a political role to play. Their role within Islam is a complicated one, and I'm sure Gaddafi regrets his past treatment of this important sect.

Too bad about Colonel Hugo. I can only imagine what will be created to replace that jolly little elf with a huge inferiority complex.;

This is beside the point, but has there ever been on Brazzil.com a perpetual a rant and rave blog where bloggers can just share an opinion of the day, no matter how irrelevant. I feel guilty discussing central African issues and Islam when so many folks are dying to share their opinions about Germany's non-nuclear stance.smilies/wink.gif
Iran's first astronaut
written by Ederson, June 28, 2011
Is anyone aware, besides the Israelis, of Iran's goal of launching a monkey into space this summer? It's a very ambitious plan, but if Iran's monkeys are anywhere near as dedicated and ambitious as Iran's space program and leaders, then, there should be no lack of volunteers. smilies/wink.gif Surely Brasil's space program is equally as ambitious, but one wonders what, exactly, might serve as a comparable astronaut for Brasil?
Ederson
written by João da Silva, June 28, 2011

I feel guilty discussing central African issues and Islam when so many folks are dying to share their opinions about Germany's non-nuclear stance.


Nobody seems to be "dying" to share their opinions about Germany´s non-nuclear stance. If they are, by now they would have come out with their rants and filled up the thread. Even Rickey doesn't seem to care.smilies/grin.gif Besides, he agreed with me that we are specialists in discussing unrelated topics under the threads of other authors.smilies/cool.gif

On a serious note, I think your insight into the different sects of Islam and what is happening in North Africa and the oil producing Sheikdoms is very important. Believe it or not, it does affect Brasil one way or the other. I was surprised to read the role of S.Africa to try bring in a "peaceful end" to the conflict in Libya.

May be the first "Great War" of the century has already started and only very few world leaders recognize and are trying to escalate it. Anglela Merckel wants no part in it and hence is Germany´s "Anti-Nuclear" stance. If you really think well, Sen.Buarque recommends the same for Brasil too. smilies/wink.gif
Sufi extremeism
written by Ederson, June 28, 2011
Wow! One of my favorite topics. Sufi extremism seems contradictory at first, but it's there. Look at Pakistan. The Saudis hate the Sufi and Shiites and, if I remember correctly, did their best to keep them from gaining arms when they were matching the Yank's infusion of cash and weapons into Pakistan in an attempt to control them. They succeeded for a while, but the Sufi sects are not as stupid as the Saudis believe; they also have tempers, too. They are not just in Africa, but can be found everywhere, usually suppressed. However, their power in Africa is worth considerable study if anyone cares. The Sufis are the mystic element of Islam.
The robed and skirted dancers you find in Turkey? They are Sufi.

The first Great War of the century?smilies/wink.gif I don't think this will be the first century without a great war, or several.smilies/cheesy.gif Pick your sides, Joao. It's going to be interesting even to the casual observer. Brasil must be careful and remember that being neutral might someday require the will and military to remain so. Just my opinion, of course.
Ederson
written by João da Silva, June 28, 2011

Thanks for enlightening me further on this sect of Islam. So there are 3 sects: Sunnis,Shias & Sufis (Not the Surfis). These Sufis are everywhere, including in Pakistan. Are they kind of secret society? I don't know, but I will find out when talking to some Islamic friends I have come to know recently.smilies/wink.gif

Coming back to Col.Moamar, I read the following during lunch time:

The prosecutor of the International Criminal Court urged Moammar Gadhafi's own aides Tuesday to arrest the Libyan leader and turn him over for trial on murder and persecution charges — or risk prosecution themselves.

As battles raged through a fifth month between Gadhafi's forces and rebels backed by NATO air strikes, prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo was optimistic that Gadhafi's regime would be over within two or three months.


I was wondering if this prosecutor was a Brasilian because of his name (would have been extremely surprised if he was one!) and to my surprise found out he is an Argentinian. I burst out laughing. Before prosecuting Col.Gadafi, he should have gone after his own countryman Capt.Astiz who to my knowledge is still free, in spite of the atrocities committed by that fellow on his own fellow citizens. May be he should send the good Captain to arrest Moamar and bring him to the Hague in shackles.smilies/wink.gif
Capt. Astiz and Joao
written by Ederson, June 28, 2011
I don't trust anything that has the word "World" in it, such as World Bank, World Court, and so on. In addition, I don't necessarily share the values of others or wish to allow others to make decisions for me. I'm different; I can't live just anywhere, for some people just annoy me to no end. I still think the world is big enough to have a place for individuals. How's that for a rant!smilies/wink.gif
The Sufis? They're everywhere, even within the Shiites and Sunni divisions, but as I said, they are not always accepted by either's leadership. This could be a boring world if it wasn't for NATO and Islamic extremism.
Are you following the lead on Iran launching the animal astronaut I blogged earlier? If Iran can do...well?
Ederson
written by João da Silva, June 28, 2011

I still think the world is big enough to have a place for individuals. How's that for a rant


Your rant is as melodious as mine.smilies/grin.gif

I don't trust anything that has the word "World" in it, such as World Bank, World Court, and so on


Rickey also doesn't trust. But...but...but.. ya all must be happy that Cristina Lagarde is now the boss of IMF.smilies/wink.gif

Are you following the lead on Iran launching the animal astronaut I blogged earlier? If Iran can do...well?


Not yet.Probably you blogged about it in "Tehran Times".smilies/angry.gif

I get most of my news from "Estadão", which didn't report this historical event. smilies/shocked.gif

BTW, are Moamar and Ahmadinejad Sufis?smilies/cool.gif
Reply to Ederson
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 28, 2011

Ederson: “I don't trust anything that has the word "World" in it, such as World Bank, World Court, and so on.”


*****


Ricardo: I agree with you 100 percent, and I would add to your list NATO, the IMF, the United Nations and so on...I have no use for these tyrannical organizations.

First, Libya did not have a reason to explode into a revolution, since Col.Gaddafi had been doing the right thing in Libya for many decades for example:

The Unfair Demonization of Gaddafi by the Western Power - June 25, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaR5lB5BKwQ&NR=1


GADDAFI WANTED GOLD FOR HIS OIL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...r_embedded


Gaddafi gold-for-oil, dollar-doom plans behind Libya 'mission'? - May 5, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ideo_title


Bankers raping and pillaging Libya. Goldman Sachs and Colonel Gaddafi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...r_embedded


NATO Warning: Bombs may hit any place at any time! - June 28, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-D2fGc97YQ


Engdahl: Libya intervention absurd, NATO criminal – June 27, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUMc_ULnluA


Today, NATO is an international criminal organization, and tomorrow this rogue organization can decide to attack countries also in South America or anywhere that they think some leader is out of line regarding the rules and goals designed by the Bilderberg Group.

Anders Fogh Rasmussen the current head of NATO just attended a meeting of the Bilderberg group in June 2011 to get his latest orders regarding Libya.

You can learn about the Bilderberg group at:

Bilderberg group – The World Order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho


Bilderberg Group 2011: Arab Spring, DSK top secret agenda – June 10, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORFehlBsR60


Bilderberg 2011: Background, Preview and Predictions – June 5, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vEiWw1FIX8


Note: The annual secretive Bilderberg Group meetings is where they plot which country is going to be pillaged next, and they coordinate the pillage process of other countries assets with the major international bankers and with the major Wall Street Houses, and they use even their private armies that they have at their disposal to accomplish these goals as in Iraq, and NATO in Libya and other places.

You can bet Brazil, and South America is a major target for the Bilderberg group and you can bet they are setting up the usual traps to rape the country.

Ederson, Libyans had no reason to start a civil war in Libya, since Colonel Gaddafi was doing everything to help his people.

Colonel Gaddafi has one major drawback; he is very eccentric, and he travels around with his tent and that makes him kook like he is nothing playing with a full deck of cards.

But if you take the time to learn what he did in Libya the last 42 years then you get another picture – the picture of a benevolent despot that has been doing a lot of good for his country and his people.

I want to remind you that I am agnostic, and that is why I am not including any information or analysis about the Shiites and Sunni divisions in Libya.

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Reply to Ederson
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 28, 2011

Part 1 of 2

Ricardo: Ederson, here is the official list of the attendees of the 2011 Bilderberg group, but there were reports that a number of people where spotted dropping by for a quick meeting with the Bilderberg group and among them were people such as Anders Fogh Rasmussen the current head of NATO, Hillary Clinton US Secretary of State, Robert M. Gates the current US Secretary of Defense, and US Secretary of Treasury Timothy Geithner.

The Bilderberg Group 2011 conference location and date: from June 9-12 at Hotel Suvretta House in St. Moritz, Switzerland

Friday, June 10, 2011

Bilderberg 2011: Full Official Attendee List

Thanks to the fantastic work of Bilderberg activists, journalists and the Swiss media, we have now been able to obtain the full official list of 2011 Bilderberg attendees. Routinely, some members request that their names be kept off the roster so there will be additional Bilderbergers in attendance.

Belgium

Coene, Luc, Governor, National Bank of Belgium
Davignon, Etienne, Minister of State
Leysen, Thomas, Chairman, Umicore

China

Fu, Ying, Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs
Huang, Yiping, Professor of Economics, China Center for Economic Research, Peking University

Denmark

Eldrup, Anders, CEO, DONG Energy
Federspiel, Ulrik, Vice President, Global Affairs, Haldor Topsøe A/S
Schütze, Peter, Member of the Executive Management, Nordea Bank AB

Germany

Ackermann, Josef, Chairman of the Management Board and the Group Executive Committee, Deutsche Bank
Enders, Thomas, CEO, Airbus SAS
Löscher, Peter, President and CEO, Siemens AG
Nass, Matthias, Chief International Correspondent, Die Zeit
Steinbrück, Peer, Member of the Bundestag; Former Minister of Finance

Finland

Apunen, Matti, Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA
Johansson, Ole, Chairman, Confederation of the Finnish Industries EK
Ollila, Jorma, Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell
Pentikäinen, Mikael, Publisher and Senior Editor-in-Chief, Helsingin Sanomat

France

Baverez, Nicolas, Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
Bazire, Nicolas, Managing Director, Groupe Arnault /LVMH
Castries, Henri de, Chairman and CEO, AXA
Lévy, Maurice, Chairman and CEO, Publicis Groupe S.A.
Montbrial, Thierry de, President, French Institute for International Relations
Roy, Olivier, Professor of Social and Political Theory, European University Institute

Great Britain

Agius, Marcus, Chairman, Barclays PLC
Flint, Douglas J., Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings
Kerr, John, Member, House of Lords; Deputy Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell
Lambert, Richard, Independent Non-Executive Director, Ernst & Young
Mandelson, Peter, Member, House of Lords; Chairman, Global Counsel
Micklethwait, John, Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
Osborne, George, Chancellor of the Exchequer
Stewart, Rory, Member of Parliament
Taylor, J. Martin, Chairman, Syngenta International AG

Greece

David, George A., Chairman, Coca-Cola H.B.C. S.A.
Hardouvelis, Gikas A., Chief Economist and Head of Research, Eurobank EFG
Papaconstantinou, George, Minister of Finance
Tsoukalis, Loukas, President, ELIAMEP Grisons

International Organizations

Almunia, Joaquín, Vice President, European Commission
Daele, Frans van, Chief of Staff to the President of the European Council
Kroes, Neelie, Vice President, European Commission; Commissioner for Digital Agenda
Lamy, Pascal, Director General, World Trade Organization
Rompuy, Herman van, President, European Council
Sheeran, Josette, Executive Director, United Nations World Food Programme
Solana Madariaga, Javier, President, ESADEgeo Center for Global Economy and Geopolitics
Trichet, Jean-Claude, President, European Central Bank
Zoellick, Robert B., President, The World Bank Group

Ireland

Gallagher, Paul, Senior Counsel; Former Attorney General
McDowell, Michael, Senior Counsel, Law Library; Former Deputy Prime Minister
Sutherland, Peter D., Chairman, Goldman Sachs International

Italy

Bernabè, Franco, CEO, Telecom Italia SpA
Elkann, John, Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.
Monti, Mario, President, Univers Commerciale Luigi Bocconi
Scaroni, Paolo, CEO, Eni S.p.A.
Tremonti, Giulio, Minister of Economy and Finance

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Reply to Aderson
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 28, 2011

Part 2 of 2

Canada

Carney, Mark J., Governor, Bank of Canada
Clark, Edmund, President and CEO, TD Bank Financial Group
McKenna, Frank, Deputy Chair, TD Bank Financial Group
Orbinksi, James, Professor of Medicine and Political Science, University of Toronto
Prichard, J. Robert S., Chair, Torys LLP
Reisman, Heather, Chair and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc. Center, Brookings Institution

Netherlands

Bolland, Marc J., Chief Executive, Marks and Spencer Group plc
Chavannes, Marc E., Political Columnist, NRC Handelsblad; Professor of Journalism
Halberstadt, Victor, Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings
H.M. the Queen of the Netherlands
Rosenthal, Uri, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Winter, Jaap W., Partner, De Brauw Blackstone Westbroek

Norway

Myklebust, Egil, Former Chairman of the Board of Directors SAS, sk Hydro ASA
H.R.H. Crown Prince Haakon of Norway
Ottersen, Ole Petter, Rector, University of Oslo
Solberg, Erna, Leader of the Conservative Party

Austria

Bronner, Oscar, CEO and Publisher, Standard Medien AG
Faymann, Werner, Federal Chancellor
Rothensteiner, Walter, Chairman of the Board, Raiffeisen Zentralbank Österreich AG
Scholten, Rudolf, Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG

Portugal

Balsemão, Francisco Pinto, Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA, S.G.P.S.; Former Prime Minister
Ferreira Alves, Clara, CEO, Claref LDA; writer
Nogueira Leite, António, Member of the Board, José de Mello Investimentos, SGPS, SA

Sweden

Mordashov, Alexey A., CEO, Severstal Schweden
Bildt, Carl, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Björling, Ewa, Minister for Trade
Wallenberg, Jacob, Chairman, Investor AB

Switzerland

Brabeck-Letmathe, Peter, Chairman, Nestlé S.A.
Groth, Hans, Senior Director, Healthcare Policy & Market Access, Oncology Business Unit, Pfizer Europe
Janom Steiner, Barbara, Head of the Department of Justice, Security and Health, Canton
Kudelski, André, Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group SA
Leuthard, Doris, Federal Councillor
Schmid, Martin, President, Government of the Canton Grisons
Schweiger, Rolf, Ständerat
Soiron, Rolf, Chairman of the Board, Holcim Ltd., Lonza Ltd.
Vasella, Daniel L., Chairman, Novartis AG
Witmer, Jürg, Chairman, Givaudan SA and Clariant AG

Spain

Cebrián, Juan Luis, CEO, PRISA
Cospedal, María Dolores de, Secretary General, Partido Popular
León Gross, Bernardino, Secretary General of the Spanish Presidency
Nin Génova, Juan María, President and CEO, La Caixa
H.M. Queen Sofia of Spain

Turkey

Ciliv, Süreyya, CEO, Turkcell Iletisim Hizmetleri A.S.
Gülek Domac, Tayyibe, Former Minister of State
Koç, Mustafa V., Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.
Pekin, Sefika, Founding Partner, Pekin & Bayar Law Firm

USA

Alexander, Keith B., Commander, USCYBERCOM; Director, National Security Agency
Altman, Roger C., Chairman, Evercore Partners Inc.
Bezos, Jeff, Founder and CEO, Amazon.com
Collins, Timothy C., CEO, Ripplewood Holdings, LLC
Feldstein, Martin S., George F. Baker Professor of Economics, Harvard University
Hoffman, Reid, Co-founder and Executive Chairman, LinkedIn
Hughes, Chris R., Co-founder, Facebook
Jacobs, Kenneth M., Chairman & CEO, Lazard
Johnson, James A., Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC
Jordan, Jr., Vernon E., Senior Managing Director, Lazard Frères & Co. LLC
Keane, John M., Senior Partner, SCP Partners; General, US Army, Retired
Kissinger, Henry A., Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
Kleinfeld, Klaus, Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
Kravis, Henry R., Co-Chairman and co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis, Roberts & Co.
Kravis, Marie-Josée, Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute, Inc.
Li, Cheng, Senior Fellow and Director of Research, John L. Thornton China Center, Brookings Institution
Mundie, Craig J., Chief Research and Strategy Officer, Microsoft Corporation
Orszag, Peter R., Vice Chairman, Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.
Perle, Richard N., Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
Rockefeller, David, Former Chairman, Chase Manhattan Bank
Rose, Charlie, Executive Editor and Anchor, Charlie Rose
Rubin, Robert E., Co-Chairman, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury
Schmidt, Eric, Executive Chairman, Google Inc.
Steinberg, James B., Deputy Secretary of State
Thiel, Peter A., President, Clarium Capital Management, LLC
Varney, Christine A., Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust
Vaupel, James W., Founding Director, Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research
Warsh, Kevin, Former Governor, Federal Reserve Board
Wolfensohn, James D., Chairman, Wolfensohn & Company, LLC


Source: http://www.infowars.com/bilder...ndee-list/

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Reply to Ederson
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 28, 2011

Bilderberg Group – The High Priests of Globalization – June 17, 2011
http://www.infowars.com/bilder...zation”/

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Ricardo
written by Ederson, June 28, 2011
My thoughts exactly! Just Watched the "Unfair Demonization..." Thanks Ricky. No one knows anything about Libya, except what they learn from a very biased media. I always appreciate your links and independent thinking.
Joao
written by Ederson, June 28, 2011
The Sufi movement is popular in Iran, despite the sometimes heavy hand of government. Some think it is becoming even more popular. At first glance, you would think Iran would be the ultimate Sufi heaven, but it is not; too radical, too extreme.
On the other hand, I have no doubt that Gaddafi stems from a long line of Sufi mystics, even though he denies it.smilies/wink.gif Whatever the case, he's definitely not sold on either the Sunni or Shiite orthodoxy.

Russia's first astronaut was a dog; the Yanks and Iranians prefer monkeys. I'm trying hard to imagine what Brasil's first representative into space will be. I haven't heard an exact date when Iran will launch its monkey, but it has already launched a number of earthworms, which puts it light years ahead of Brasil's space initiatives.smilies/wink.gif
Reply to Ederson
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 29, 2011

Ederson: “Russia's first astronaut was a dog; the Yanks and Iranians prefer monkeys. I'm trying hard to imagine what Brasil's first representative into space will be.”


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Ricardo: Ederson, the first Brazilian astronaut was a man: Marcos Cesar Pontes

Marcos Cesar Pontes is a Brazilian Air Force pilot. He became the first Brazilian to go into space when he launched to the International Space Station aboard Soyuz TMA-8 on March 30, 2006. He is the only Brazilian to complete the NASA astronaut training program, although he switched to training in Russia after NASA's Space Shuttle program encountered problems.

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Reply to Ederson
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 29, 2011

Ricardo: Brazil is in big trouble “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” is increasing its staff in Brazil – after pillaging everything in sight in Europe and in Libya – it's time to set up Brazil for the big fall.

It is just a matter of time for “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” to start pillaging everything in sight in Brazil.

GREEKS ARE TACKING DOWN THE NEW WORLD ORDER – June 28, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXalqmFKFMo


Max Keiser in Interview with Lars Schall – June 28, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hlMU20wSEg
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THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD BANK: JAMES WOLFENSOHN
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 29, 2011

WORLD BANKER MAKES STUNNING CONFESSION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ture=share
Time: 19 min.


Former World Bank President: Big Shift Coming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related
Time: 51 min.

THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD BANK, JAMES WOLFENSOHN, MAKES STUNNING CONFESSIONS AS HE ADDRESSES GRADUATE STUDENTS AT STANFORD UNIVERSITY. HE REVEALS THE INSIDE HAND OF WORLD DOMINATION FROM PAST, TO THE PRESENT AND INTO THE FUTURE.

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Brasil's first astronaut
written by Ederson, June 29, 2011
I'm sorry, Ricky. Let me clarify my question. I'd like to know who or what will be Brasil's first astronaut riding a Brasilian rocket. Apparently, it's rather popular to ride a Russian or American rocket as a guest and claim astronaut status, but that certainly doesn't mean that your country has a viable space program.smilies/wink.gif

The Iranians have exceeded everyone's hopes and dreams by launching earthworms into space and are planning to launch a monkey this summer. I'm aware that they have a limited budget, but at least their space program is going up.smilies/wink.gif

Space is more than a new frontier; a space program is symbolic of technological growth and potential. Brasil should also reach for the stars, or at least low-earth orbit. A space program can be limited in scope; although Brasil has a need for satillites, it can hire the launch out to others. However, a space program that is primarily R&D or part and parcel of a university program is still valuable in developing home-grown technology or inspiring another generation.

The government should sponsor a limited effort by Brasil's dedicated and enthusiastic scientists. I have no doubt that such an effort will eventually become a worthy investment in Brasil's future. My only question is who or what should be Brasil's first astronaut.smilies/wink.gif
First Dibs
written by Simpleton, June 29, 2011
Eddie, FYI regarding first anticipated Brasilian based space venture: The plans and arrangements are already shaping up for me to have first dibs on riding the first Brasilian designed and launched orbital vehicle. Of course I probably won't be reporting back on my observations from space for two reasons: 1) I will be well protected in the urn containing at least some the ashes of my eventual creamation and 2) even that is likely to be just another casualty when the darn thing blows up!
Astronaut Simpleton!
written by Ederson, June 29, 2011
Astronaut Simpleton! Hey, I like that! It rings of courage and blind patriotism in the face of absolute danger.
Your sense of duty inspires me, and surely others! Let's ad Joao, ASP, and Ricky to the list of names willing to put it all on the line for the sake of Brasilian science!smilies/wink.gif
Seriously, I know Brasil has it's national priorities, and soccer, as well as the Olympics, is important, but why should Brasil be led by the Ukraine and surpassed by both Iran and South Africa? The Russians are willing to share their secrets with Brasil and already have. Brasil should take advantage of their generosity and at least prioritize andstrengthen its academic based R&D, and if not by itself, at least with an understanding partner. So what if Solid-fuel boosters aren't good for Brasil. Why? And how can they be made better? And Brasil doesn't have to start out at the top, but it at least has to try, even a little.
I for one don't believe Brasil has the willpower to manage a successful space program, but it doesn't mean that those who do should be denied the opportunity to develop their interests. If Brasil can't provide the facilities and financing, it should at least guarantee that it maintains a R&D program of highly trained people who travel the world gleening the secrets and knowledge from those who can and do.
Yeah, I know, climatic satellites are cool as well as is military imagery, but who knows, maybe some day a Brasilian earthworm will reach low-earth orbit, and a lot of us will no longer feel inferior to the Iranians.
Look out Astronaut Ahmadinejad! Low-earth orbit isn't big enough for both Iran and Brasil!
Encouraged and Blind to Danger
written by Simpleton, June 29, 2011
Eddie, we think we have a way to conquer the funding issue, and one which would not have reliance on the Brasilian government doing the right thing and diverting assets from their own pockets. Being I will single handedly be saving earthworms (firstly by not risking sending them into space and secondly by ensuring none of them have a chance of feasting on my rotting carcass) at first glance it seems the start-up of the United Nincompoops Inspired Save the Earthworms Fund (UNISEF) might offer a very plausible solution. Should be just as easy to get the confused donors in Brasil's northern territorial claim to chip in on it at least as much as they do when the kids come knocking at the door saying they are asking for help with UNICEF / UNCF. Those stupid Americans and their horrible propensity towards charitable giving!
Brasilian earthworms!
written by Ederson, June 29, 2011
Simpleton, I'm trying to calm down.smilies/wink.gif

Look, I'm not trying to say that Brasilian earthworms are better than Iranian earthworms, although they are; all I'm trying to do is instill within my fellow patriots a general, and consuming, fear that Brasil is falling behind when it comes to scientific achievement. Certainly, I can't be asking for too much. If we can present to the world an Olympics,we should be able to launch an earthworm into orbit so that some of us can get some sleep and not worry that Brasil has lost its sense of priority!smilies/sad.gif
I'd like to see Brasil showcase some of its scientific talent and face the future straight on! If not tomorrow, when? I could even wait until the opening day of the Olympics to see a real, biologically proven Brasilian earthworm go into orbit if I only knew that it was going to happen. I mean, seriously, how much could as astronaut program for an earthworm cost, and I want it launched on a Brasilian rocket, not one from Ukraine, not one from Russia and China, not South Africa or Israel nor India and Pakistan, and certainly not one from Iran!
Bombast
written by luigi vercotti, June 29, 2011
God, don't you Brasilian blowhards ever get tired of (wrongly) predicting the demise of the USA? Obama is a Wall Street puppet? How moronic a statement. Have any of you wannabe economists predicting this US depression been there lately? I spent the last year there and didn't notice any crisis. On the contrary: I noticed that I didn't live in fear behind a walled compound; I made good money; the people were civilized; and everything worked properly.

Must suck being a funcionario in the country of the future, which always will be. Anyone notice the irony in this Brasilian space program with Ukraine?: Ukraine who brought us Chernobyl and Brazil who have Angra dos Reis I (is it working yet?) in a country self sufficient in energy.

Brilliant combo.
Vercotti
written by Ederson, June 29, 2011
Precisely my point! Why in the world would Brasil ally itself with the Ukraine when it comes to exploring space? Since when did the Ukraine become an expert on rockets?
When it comes to securing its future, Brasil must seize the initiative on its own behalf. How in the world did Brasil get left behind in the space race? Brasil has the launch facilities; it has the earthworms; it only needs a locally produced rocket.
ohhhhhhhh ricky...............wanna see what your freinds the chinese think of brasil......
written by asp, June 29, 2011
http://terramagazine.terra.com...EI6580,00- Wikileaks+Para+China+Brasil+nao+tem+capacidade+de+lider
ar.html



i love you man
Reply to Luigi Vercotti
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 29, 2011

Ricardo: You claim to be Luigi Vercotti!!!!

Very funny.

Hah, hah, hah....


Army Protection Racket
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNj1dXi-z0M
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Reply to ASP
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 29, 2011


Ricardo: ASP, I checked that link that you posted, but I did not see anything about China.

But I saw a video about my friend former president Sarney.

You might enjoy these videos:

Poncho Sanchez - Cantaloupe Island
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related

Poncho Sanchez -morning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related

Arturo Sandoval and Chucho Valdes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related


Chucho Valdes - Son No.1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related

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asp
written by João da Silva, June 29, 2011

Welcome back home,lad. Good to hear from ya again.smilies/smiley.gif

Please try to decode the rants of Eddie and Simpleton about our Space program (In a shameful stage, I must agree), Earthworms (I concur with Simp, they are about to be extinct species and we have to save them), Simp´s volunteering to be the first Brasilian astronaut (is this guy a naturalized citizen of Brasil?) in an Ukraine made rocket (of Chinese made components) fired from Islamabad, etc;

I want your complete unwashed report on this issue on my desk top by the end of the week.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

Cheers
Tripple Dott
written by .., June 29, 2011

Herr.Dott, tun Sie etwas über die brasilianische Raumfahrtprogramm der Übernahme durch die Ukrainer genommen? Merckel ist ein bisschen langsam durch nicht machen einige kluge und mutige bewegen.smilies/angry.gif
asp
written by João da Silva, June 29, 2011
Re your link posted to Ricardo.

Couldn't access. Finally managed to read the report in terra. Reproducing below for Rickey to read.



Segundo o ex-embaixador chinês no Brasil, a China acredita que o Brasil não tem “capacidade e influência” para ser líder e que as ambições do país excedem seu verdadeiro peso no cenário internacional. Telegramas de agosto de 2008 obtidos pelo Wikileaks mostram a conversa de Chen Duqing, que ficou no cargo até 2009, com o ex-embaixador dos Estados Unidos, Clifford Sobel.

Àquela ocasião, Duqing manifestou a Sobel que o Brasil não estaria qualificado para suas aspirações de ocupar um assento permanente no Conselho de Segurança da Organização das Nações Unidas (ONU) e estava “interessado apenas em algumas áreas, e não em paz ou em segurança”.

Para Paulo Vizentini, professor de Relações Internacionais da Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul (UFRGS), é preciso fazer a ressalva que a afirmação foi feita em 2008, começo da grande crise financeira que catalisaria as mudanças no quadro geopolítico internacional – e o Brasil ganhou força. Porém, admite ele, “o Brasil demonstra uma série de fragilidades quanto a seu projeto. Não temos um pacto de poder mínimo que assegure uma agenda comum que sobreviva a mudanças de governos”.

Conselho de Segurança

Em outro telegrama, os Estados Unidos ponderavam que a principal relutância chinesa quanto à reforma no Conselho de Segurança dizia respeito à possível entrada do Japão no conselho. Para os diplomatas, se a China apoiasse o Brasil em seu antigo anseio por uma inserção mais profunda no principal organismo multilateral, estaria por tabela beneficiando os rivais asiáticos. “Pode haver uma manobra chinesa no sentido de não deixar ninguém entrar. É fato que a China tem ficado incomodada com a reaproximação entre Japão e Estados Unidos”, pondera o professor.

A questão foi parcialmente alterada este ano, quando, em viagem a Pequim, a presidenta Dilma Rousseff conseguiu a inclusão, no comunicado bilateral, do apoio chinês a uma reforma no Conselho de Segurança para incluir nações emergentes. Falta obter, por parte da China, dos Estados Unidos e da própria ONU, uma defesa enfática do direito do Brasil de ingressar no órgão multilateral mais importante do mundo.

No campo interno, o embaixador chinês criticava os problemas de infraestrutura, classificando o porto de Santos como “o pior do mundo”. Ele apontou na conversa com Sobel que a burocracia nacional é muito confusa e que há uma sobreposição de funções. Para Duqing, merece especial atenção o fato de o Brasil não ter consolidado suas bases para dar conta de um desenvolvimento prolongado, indicando que, sem mais crescimento econômico, não se consolidará a meta de reduzir a desigualdade social.

Parceiro importante, parceiro ocasional

Em diversos telegramas, os diplomatas estadunidenses avaliam que o Brasil vê a China como um aliado fundamental, mas advertem que a relação não é marcada por reciprocidade. “O governo Lula considera a China um parceiro para contrabalancear a influência de nações mais ricas em instituições multilaterais”, anota a então embaixadora, Donna Hrinak, em despacho de 14 de maio de 2004 no qual resume, em poucas palavras, a tônica desta relação bilateral: “Para o Brasil, mesmo um casamento de conveniência é preferível a um eterno encontro”.

Naquele momento, chamava atenção a viagem que o presidente Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva havia realizado à nação asiática acompanhado por uma enorme delegação de 400 empresários. Os telegramas indicavam que a relação era desigual em termos de trocas comerciais, com envio de commodities brasileiras em troca de produtos industriais chineses.

Dados divulgados em abril pelo Instituto de Pesquisa Econômica Aplicada (Ipea) constatam que a desigualdade se aprofundou, e atualmente 86% da exportação brasileira ao parceiro é baseada em produtos primários.

Desconfianças de parte a parte

“Este é um grupo muito heterogêneo de países com diferentes metas”, anotava em 19 de fevereiro de 2010 o subsecretário-geral de política do Itamaraty, Roberto Jaguaribe, em conversa com o embaixador Thomas Shannon, na qual confirmava que a China não queria que o BRIC se transformasse em porta-voz das nações em desenvolvimento.

Na mesma conversa, o diplomata estadunidense demonstrava surpresa com a rapidez com que a China se engajou em negócios na América do Sul, passando de um envolvimento meramente econômico a uma relação política que se aprofundava constantemente. “China será uma forte concorrente, para os Estados Unidos e para o Brasil”, advertia Shannon, segundo telegrama de 22 de abril de 2008. .


I never thought the Chinese were going to invest in setting up manufacturing industries in Brasil anytime in the future.smilies/sad.gif

They are content on importing raw material from here and exporting "Value Added Products" to us. Eddie and I are sick and tired of saying this.smilies/angry.gif
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written by asp, June 29, 2011
thanks for the arturo sandoval and chuchu valdes youtubes, ill get to them later

thanks for the welcome back, joao, i was in miami on business and lincoln road was fantastic and saw some monster brazilian dancing at the van dyke cafe.

the linc didnt come up so here is the text :

WIKILEAKS: China pensa que Brasil não tem “capacidade” para ser líder
Telegramas revelam conversa entre embaixadores da China e dos Estados Unidos na qual se pondera que o Brasil tampouco está qualificado para um assento permanente no Conselho de Segurança da ONU

Por João Peres, especial para a Pública




Segundo o ex-embaixador chinês no Brasil, a China acredita que o Brasil não tem “capacidade e influência” para ser líder e que as ambições do país excedem seu verdadeiro peso no cenário internacional. Telegramas de agosto de 2008 obtidos pelo Wikileaks mostram a conversa de Chen Duqing, que ficou no cargo até 2009, com o ex-embaixador dos Estados Unidos, Clifford Sobel.

Àquela ocasião, Duqing manifestou a Sobel que o Brasil não estaria qualificado para suas aspirações de ocupar um assento permanente no Conselho de Segurança da Organização das Nações Unidas (ONU) e estava “interessado apenas em algumas áreas, e não em paz ou em segurança”.

Para Paulo Vizentini, professor de Relações Internacionais da Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul (UFRGS), é preciso fazer a ressalva que a afirmação foi feita em 2008, começo da grande crise financeira que catalisaria as mudanças no quadro geopolítico internacional – e o Brasil ganhou força. Porém, admite ele, “o Brasil demonstra uma série de fragilidades quanto a seu projeto. Não temos um pacto de poder mínimo que assegure uma agenda comum que sobreviva a mudanças de governos”.

Conselho de Segurança

Em outro telegrama, os Estados Unidos ponderavam que a principal relutância chinesa quanto à reforma no Conselho de Segurança dizia respeito à possível entrada do Japão no conselho. Para os diplomatas, se a China apoiasse o Brasil em seu antigo anseio por uma inserção mais profunda no principal organismo multilateral, estaria por tabela beneficiando os rivais asiáticos. “Pode haver uma manobra chinesa no sentido de não deixar ninguém entrar. É fato que a China tem ficado incomodada com a reaproximação entre Japão e Estados Unidos”, pondera o professor.

A questão foi parcialmente alterada este ano, quando, em viagem a Pequim, a presidenta Dilma Rousseff conseguiu a inclusão, no comunicado bilateral, do apoio chinês a uma reforma no Conselho de Segurança para incluir nações emergentes. Falta obter, por parte da China, dos Estados Unidos e da própria ONU, uma defesa enfática do direito do Brasil de ingressar no órgão multilateral mais importante do mundo.

No campo interno, o embaixador chinês criticava os problemas de infraestrutura, classificando o porto de Santos como “o pior do mundo”. Ele apontou na conversa com Sobel que a burocracia nacional é muito confusa e que há uma sobreposição de funções. Para Duqing, merece especial atenção o fato de o Brasil não ter consolidado suas bases para dar conta de um desenvolvimento prolongado, indicando que, sem mais crescimento econômico, não se consolidará a meta de reduzir a desigualdade social.

Parceiro importante, parceiro ocasional

Em diversos telegramas, os diplomatas estadunidenses avaliam que o Brasil vê a China como um aliado fundamental, mas advertem que a relação não é marcada por reciprocidade. “O governo Lula considera a China um parceiro para contrabalancear a influência de nações mais ricas em instituições multilaterais”, anota a então embaixadora, Donna Hrinak, em despacho de 14 de maio de 2004 no qual resume, em poucas palavras, a tônica desta relação bilateral: “Para o Brasil, mesmo um casamento de conveniência é preferível a um eterno encontro”.

Naquele momento, chamava atenção a viagem que o presidente Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva havia realizado à nação asiática acompanhado por uma enorme delegação de 400 empresários. Os telegramas indicavam que a relação era desigual em termos de trocas comerciais, com envio de commodities brasileiras em troca de produtos industriais chineses.


Ederson
written by João da Silva, June 29, 2011

PBO Vs Boeing

Thanks for your earlier briefing on this. Today I managed to read the full report.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43..._business/

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thanks joao
written by asp, June 29, 2011
you put it up just as i was trying to

you are the man
PBO and Boeing!
written by Ederson, June 30, 2011
Obama doesn't want to interfer between the NRLB and Boeing? What kind of nonsense is that?smilies/tongue.gif They're his appointees!smilies/cheesy.gif He also said it would defy common sense for Boeing to have to abandon their plant because of legal action!
Does he think everyone else is an idiot?smilies/tongue.gif His country is desperate for leadership and the current NRLB are his appointees! Who does Obama work for? The unions? The bankers? The Republicans? It doesn't sound at all as if he works for the jobless in Yankeeland. And he's running for a second term?

Mister Boeing, welcome to Brasil! If the Yankees don't want the jobs, Brasil would love to have them! Just give Brasil a chance!
BRIC in space!
written by Ederson, June 30, 2011
BRIC in space! China on the moon in 2020; Russia low orbit, high orbit, space station, most dependable and powerful rockets, even built a space shuttle for R&D; India earth orbit with an astronaut 2012, the moon in five to eight years! What is Brasil's plan?

I don't know, but in a country where every cab driver knows Brasil was the first to fly, it seems odd that Brasil is last in space. Well, not really, there's always Zimbabwe.smilies/wink.gif What would Santos-Dumont think?smilies/wink.gif
Reply to ASP and Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 30, 2011

Ricardo: Thanks for the information.

I just finish watching Arminio Fraga being interviewed by Charlie Rose.

The interview went very well Arminio Fraga gave me the impression that he is a down to earth type of guy, and he said a lot of stuff that we are more or less in agreement.

He also likes the China economic development model.

It was a very interesting interview, and he was very blunt about what he thinks about the US economic and political system.

Going back to what they said according to wikileaks:

I really don't care if Brazil becomes a permanent member of Security Council at the United Nations, since I have no use for that organization.

I also have no use for NATO, the World Bank, and the IMF.

I am not a globalist, I am a nationalist.

On my book Brazil and the Brazilian people comes first.

I does not matter what the Chinese Ambassador think about the Bric countries - the reality is that by 2050 China and India economy will represent 50 percent of world GDP.

Please watch the video that I posted above about the presentation of JAMES WOLFENSOHN the former president of the World Bank.

According to the best estimates available today we are going to have a massive transfer of economic activity from Europe and the USA to the emerging markets meaning China, India, and to a lesser degree Brazil and Russia. (The Bric countries)

He give the current numbers which has been help for many decades of a split in global GDP Europe/USA 80 percent and the rest of the world 20 percent.

By the year 2050 the split of global GDP will be Europe/USA 35 percent and the rest of the world 65 percent. (With China and India claiming a very large share of this number)

He said that world population would increase from 6 billion people in 2000 to 9 billion people by 2050, but about 3 million people are going to move up to middle class status - about 100 thousand in Europe/USA and about 2.9 billion in China, India and some other emerging countries.

He is very clear in one point that China and India are already eating all of Europe/USA lunch and dinner, and what Europe/USA are supposed to do to make a living in the coming decades?

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Reply to Ederson
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 30, 2011

Ricardo: I am writing an article about Brazil space exploration and so on...that's why I stay out of this conversation for now.

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Reply to Ederson and Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 30, 2011

Ricardo: When wisdom, reason and common sense does not work: Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle...and look what is happening to Greece today.

The Greek people should adopt the French way of resolving that type of problem: the guillotine.

That type of French wisdom and enlightenment it would help to take care of the problems that the Greeks are having with the politicians and the bankers.

EU bailout of Greece -- "robbery and swindle" - June 29, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZBmV_wTweo

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Regarding the death of the Greek economy...
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, June 30, 2011

Ricardo: The demise of the Brazilian economy also can be arranged by "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People''.

The "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" announced that they will layoff about 230 people (most likely in New York) and at the same time they announced that they would be hiring 200 people in Brazil to help on their effort to pillage everything in sight in Brazil ASAP.

Marcha Fúnebre - Chopin - Banda Sinfónica Ciudad de Baeza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYw2pGSkRkM

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Brasil in space and Ricardo
written by Ederson, June 30, 2011
I'll certainly be looking forward to you article, Ricky.smilies/smiley.gif
By the way, while being critical of Brasil's space program, I'm also not against Iran's, for if the Iranian's succeed in establishing their objectives and igniting the imagination of a future generation of young scientist, they will have demonstrated that even the most unlikely country can claim a piece of the final frontier.
In addition, as the Iranian astronaut passes over Brasil, Brasilian youngsters and future scientists will have someone they can look up to. smilies/wink.gif
Arabic Supremacy
written by Simpleton, June 30, 2011
I agree Eddie but the Brasilian youngsters and future scientists are already on their way to looking up the Mullah's skirts. Can't you hear the growing din of them chanting "Where's my beef? We can't afford to eat s**t around here!"
China warehouse
written by Ederson, June 30, 2011
You have a point, Simpleton. I don't believe being a warehouse of commodities for China's industries is everything Brasil's leadership hopes it will be. Sooner or later, Brasil, like the Yankees, is going to have to reconsider the exportation of jobs elsewhere and invest more heavily in the middle-class.
I know it is an insult to beg and borrow from the Arabs and Persians, but if the Iranians are successful in their space program, perhaps Brasil should hide under the skirts of the Mullahs and partnership or beg for a bit of assistance.

The Iranians, as Shiites, would no doubt love the prestige of having Brasil beg for scientific assistance and training just for the slap in the face it would give their Sunni cousins.smilies/wink.gif
Ederson
written by João da Silva, June 30, 2011

Sooner or later, Brasil, like the Yankees, is going to have to reconsider the exportation of jobs elsewhere and invest more heavily in the middle-class.


Sounds like music to me and not a rant.smilies/cheesy.gif

Since Rickey has promised to write an article on our Space "Program", I´ll hold my comments till he publishes it.
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, July 01, 2011

Ricardo: When wisdom, reason and common sense does not work: Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle...and look what is happening to Greece today.

The Greek people should adopt the French way of resolving that type of problem: the guillotine.


I have some good French friends who think that Mother France needs another revolution, Rickey.smilies/smiley.gif

The Greeks are pissed off because the new IMF boss is French and dictating terms on them. They are not in a different situation from that of Portuguese who are not on the streets burning things, but accepted the austerity measures proposed by their newly elected leaders. They got Euros 78 B from the Euro Zone (thanks to the Germans) and IMF. I am told by my more learned friends that Germany,Switzerland and other "Nordic" countries wield the power over other countries in Europe- Not Mothers England and France.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gif

Of course, as usual Simpleton ,Eddie & ASP will contest me. I´ll be extremely disappointed if they don't.smilies/sad.gif
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 01, 2011

Ricardo: Joao, they are right the French needs a new revolution, and they should get rid off people like Sarkozy.

Yesterday, they had a massive demonstration in England when 750,000 demonstrated against their government policies.

The world is waking up, and started revolting against all these corrupt political systems and politicians, and the bankers who are pillaging everything in sight.

In Iceland the people draw the line, and they told the international bankers to go and screw themselves.

In Greece the Greek people should adopt the guillotine as the new tool and strategy to clean up their problem with their politicians and the international bankers.

Remember the criminals and thieves from “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” that helped their corrupt Greek government to create this massive mess in Greece. And you can bet that “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” made a lot money on that deal.

The “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” is laying of 230 people in New York and in other places, and they are in the process of increasing their staff by 200 people on their office in Brazil.

That means that Brazil is in play and they are going to set Brazil for a fall, and they are going to pillage everything in sight in Brazil – look at Greece today and that is the future of Brazil after “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” do their destruction job in Brazil.

Brazil it will be a easy target for “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” and their mafia network of scoundrels. It will be like taking candy away from children, because the Brazilian politicians are very corrupt, and most Brazilian business people are trying to make a fast buck.

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Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 01, 2011

Ricardo: Joao, the French President Nicolas Sarkozy and David Cameron the British Prime Minister - both men are criminals for what they are doing to Libya and the Libyan people.

The Wall Street major houses and the major international bankers are running out of prey around the world that's why they are all descending in Brazil - to pillage everything in sight, since most of these bankers and Wall Street types are people who have no idea how to make an honest buck other than pillage other people's savings, and steal everything that they can get away with - they are like bottom feeders, parasites, and in the case of "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" they represent pure cancer.

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nice youtubes , ricky
written by asp, July 01, 2011
i love chuchu valdes and arturo sandoval. pancho sanchez is great also....

yeah , im all for brazil to not get exploited also

the point is, you have to watch your back against everyone, not just the usa. i wouldnt say just trust any usa business man that comes down the pike. but. id have to say the same thing about the chinese.
dont forget your countrymen, ricky...these guys are as good as anyone anywhere.....
written by asp, July 01, 2011
Reply to ASP
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 01, 2011

Ricardo: ASP, Brazil is a target to anyone who is up to no good.

Not only Brazil has a vast amount of untapped resources, but Brazil is where the action is today because of the massive investments being made because of the World Cup and the Olympics.

Besides that, in my opinion, Brazil has a great future ahead of itself if Brazil plays its cards right today and in the coming years.

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PBO doesn't like jets
written by Ederson, July 01, 2011
For a president whose abusive use of Yankeeland's Air Force VIP fleet is becoming legendary, [Ms. Obama's recent 800,000.00 dollar flight to South Africa with the kids among many examples] his unwarranted attack on aircraft owners, particularly business jet users who absolutely need such vehicles, may yet be another boon to Brasil.

PBO's understanding of basic business principals is sinking him in the opinion of many business leaders throughoutthe world, but his understanding of history is equally poor.
Does anyone remember PBO's father, the legendary Jimmy Carter? He, too, struck out at aircraft owners and users of business jets. The result was a near total collapse of the business aircraft industry in Yankeeland and the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and tax revenue. Beechcraft, Cessna, Piper, and many others took huge hits and an industry was devastated. Businesses often bought their jets and equipment from overseas suppliers as a result.

I'm hoping PBO will initiate the same policy and forget history and what the economists are telling him.
In the meantime, Brasil should step forward to fill the vacuum PBO is creating by destroying business initiatives in his own country. Brasil should study the rules and regulations of Yankeeland and find ways to get around PBO's suggested new restrictions on business planes, their use, and construction.

If PBO and the Yanks don't want the jobs, the capital, and tax revenues that such a critical element of business provides, Brasil should be prepared to step in and fill the need.

One only wonders what Warren Buffett, one of the world's most dramatic spokesmen for the use of business aircraft and the owner of a magnificent fleet of business jets, now feels about his protegee.smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

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written by João da Silva, July 01, 2011

One only wonders what Warren Buffett, one of the world's most dramatic spokesmen for the use of business aircraft and the owner of a magnificent fleet of business jets, now feels about his protegee.


He must feel good! Isn't he a WASP and blonde???smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/angry.gif
Warren Buffett and Joao
written by Ederson, July 01, 2011
Joao! You are jumping to conclusions!smilies/cheesy.gif Just because Warren Buffet is extremely intelligent, honest, and wealthy beyond belief doesn't mean that he is a blond! However, I just checked his ancestry and his family is northern Scandinavian. Go figure!smilies/cheesy.gif
Anyway, many years ago, United Airlines, I think it is based in Yankeeland, wanted to enter the business jet business big time with a hundred or more business jets. The experts spoke with Buffet, who, at the time, owned one of the largest, if not the largest business jet fleets in the world. He told everyone not to invest in United's new operation because it was run by inexperienced managers. United went under shortly thereafter.

I always thought that there was something behind Warren Buffet's endorsement of PBO. First, he didn't think Obama could possibly win, and second, if he made decisions based on going against everything PBO did, he would make even more money!

I really enjoy watching the news about the confusion America is experiencing. It just seems so incredible that such an experienced and intelligent country could be so aimless at the moment, but even though it is interesting, it is distressing. The Yanks are good people with good hearts, and they always try. I wish them the best of luck.
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, July 01, 2011

It will be like taking candy away from children, because the Brazilian politicians are very corrupt, and most Brazilian business people are trying to make a fast buck.


Besides that, in my opinion, Brazil has a great future ahead of itself if Brazil plays its cards right today and in the coming years.


Great quotes of the week, Ricardo.

I am sure ASP, Simpleton and Ederson will agree with me, though ASP might be upset with Eddie for indulging in PBO bashing.smilies/wink.gif

But...but...but... Eddie confessed a long time ago that he was contesting PBO´s policy not because he is a "Kenyan-American", but for "other reasons". Eddie has written extensively about it and I appreciate his taking precious time off and clarifying my doubts.

BTW, how is your new article coming up?
Bashing PBO?
written by Ederson, July 01, 2011
Sorry, Joao. I have to disagree with you. Anyone who implements ideas and policies that might eventually aid Brasil's economic position is my friend. Besides, I'm quite fond of the Irish. Anything I repeat on my favorite blog comes directly or indirectly from the press. Please, don't shoot the messanger!smilies/wink.gif
Ederson
written by João da Silva, July 01, 2011

Besides, I'm quite fond of the Irish


I ain't quite sure if ASP is a WASP or WASC. I bet he is a Yank of true Irish blood. May be with a mix of Scottish? One never knows while dealing with these "Barbarians" from the North.smilies/sad.gif

Just because Warren Buffet is extremely intelligent, honest, and wealthy beyond belief doesn't mean that he is a blond! However, I just checked his ancestry and his family is northern Scandinavian. Go figure


He is a blond, for God sake. Even his "poorer nephew" and our distinguished fellow blogger Simpleton will attest to the fact, though Simp is from Iowa. smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Ederson
written by João da Silva, July 01, 2011

Since you are an authority on Near, Middle, Very Far East, I have a question:

Is Dominique of (ex-IMF) a Kahn or a Khan?

Is this guy a Shiite, Sunni or a Sufi?

He doesn't seem to be a WASP. May be I am mistaken. Would appreciate your response ASAP (not to be confused with ASP).smilies/wink.gif
joao
written by asp, July 01, 2011
scotch / irish, english, german
Obama is Irish!
written by Ederson, July 01, 2011
You guys make me laugh!smilies/cheesy.gif I wasn't speaking of ASP; I was speaking of PBO. His mother was Irish, was she not?smilies/wink.gif
Buffett being blonde.
written by Ederson, July 01, 2011
I love Warren Buffett as much as the next guy. You just have to admire his style!smilies/smiley.gif But all the pictures I could find of him were taken after his 130th birthday, so I thought his hair was white.smilies/wink.gif Buffett is cool. I read that they used to call him "The Oracle of Omaha." I checked the map; Omaha appears to almost be in the state of Iowa. What is it about Iowa? John Wayne, Warren Buffett, and Simpleton all came from the same little state or very near it? How cool is that?smilies/wink.gif Must be something in the water.
Joao and Kahn
written by Ederson, July 01, 2011
Kahn is an old Jewish name. It might have stemmed from the Hebrew word Cohen. Cohens were the priests of the Hebrews. I believe the first Cohens came from the tribe of Midianites. Mose's father, Jethro, was a Cohen. It's a long story. Don't ask me how I know.smilies/cheesy.gif
Vladimir Putin and wife spark divorce rumours with photo shoot
written by a.norlina, July 02, 2011
Vladimir Putin and his wife Ludmila have made a rare public appearance together that has inadvertently revived speculation that the couple is divorced.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...shoot.html

By Andrew Osborn in Moscow

In a stilted interview, the Putins allowed themselves to be filmed in a sitting room at the Russian prime minister's official residence in Moscow.

Dressed in matching beige and seated on a beige sofa, they were shown fielding questions about their backgrounds, income, and children from a government official helping compile a new Russian census.

Ludmila Putina looked distinctly uncomfortable during the interview, while Mr Putin showered his attention on his black Labrador Koni, who was curled up on the sofa, rather than his wife.

The show of marital bliss failed to convince Russian bloggers who dredged up long-standing rumours that the couple is actually divorced.

No credible evidence of that has ever been presented. and when a Moscow newspaper claimed in 2008 that Mr Putin had secretly divorced and was to marry former Olympic gymnast Alina Kabayeva, the paper's billionaire owner, Alexander Lebedev, shut it down soon afterwards.
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Mr Putin said there was "not one word of truth" in the claim.

Mr Putin's spokesman on Monday dismissed the latest rumours circulating on the internet about his boss' alleged divorce as "nonsense," claiming his "immense workload" was the real reason why he was pictured so rarely with his wife.

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Miraflores Press Office - Military Affairs
written by a.norlina, July 02, 2011
Henry Rangel Silva, the head of Venezuela's Strategic Operational Command, said on Friday that while the South American country is calm, as far as public order is concerned, President Hugo Chávez continues a successful process of recovery in his health condition.

He said that the military High Command is aware that the president deserves some calm. Times are more demanding for top military officers, he said. "We are aware of this situation and we have a higher level of maturity as far as governance is concerned, and this allows us to act with more determination and assertiveness in the resolution of problems we have," Rangel Silva told state-run TV network Venezolana de Televisión (VTV).

"There is no doubt that our commander-in-chief, the Venezuelan president, requires time. Of course, we will do the job and we will keep him posted because he is always watching to see what is going on; he makes a lot of questions and he is checking things. He is a very active person," Rangel Silva said.

He said that the president understands "that there are things that we can handle, that he should not be fraught with problems, but he should have a clear mind, spiritual strength and strong views to make big decisions for our country."

The Venezuelan general thinks that the president's address to the nation, rather than a medical report about his health condition, is a message of "hope and work. It is a way for relaunching, for the union of a new, dignified and sovereign nation."

The Venezuelan army officer asked people not to pay attention to "words that could spread alarm" in Chávez's address, and understand that "this is just another circumstance" in the president's life, and the Head of State acknowledged that he has faced difficult situations several times.

"We must lift our spirits. There is the sense that it is painful news, and we have to admit it. However, the reality shows that he is recovering very successfully. In the video we saw our commander-in-chief thinner than usual but still standing. He is an active person."

Rangel Silva said that he held four meetings with President Chávez on Wednesday. The meeting was also attended by Foreign Minister Nicolás Maduro and Adán Chávez, the governor of the state of Barinas. He also said that Chávez could be home soon.

Translated by Gerardo Cárdenas

Ocarina Espinoza
EL UNIVERSAL
Barack Obama is in bigger trouble than he realizes regarding his re-election chances
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 02, 2011

Ricardo: I just found a very interesting video about Louis Farrakhan and Libya.

Even his own brothers are turning against Barack Obama.

Farrakhan warns, advises Obama on Libya – July 1, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L41Q8kkH6g
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Gaddafi threatens retaliation against Europe
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 02, 2011

Gaddafi threatens Europe
Posted: 02 July 2011
http://www.channelnewsasia.com...05/1/.html

TRIPOLI: Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi threatened retaliation against Europe on Friday unless NATO ceases its operations, warning loyalist forces can launch stinging attacks like "locusts and bees."

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Ricardo and Farrakhan
written by Ederson, July 02, 2011
Ricky, that link is one of the most interesting. I've watched it several times. Farrakhan made some excellent points, but I don't think it is a recent video and is probably several months old. Thanks.
By the way. PBO probably didn't make the decision to attack Libya by himself. He no doubt has many advisers, but did anyone hear who in particular were the advisers that made the attack on Libya such a pressing issue? Just curious.
Ederson
written by João da Silva, July 02, 2011

He no doubt has many advisers, but did anyone hear who in particular were the advisers that made the attack on Libya such a pressing issue?


I was under the impression that it was HRC who also seems to have vowed she would not continue as Sec of State in the event her boss gets reelected.

Now I await Rickey´s comments.
Hillary Clinton versus Obama
written by Ederson, July 02, 2011
Joao, you are correct. I researched it. March 11, 2011, she reportedly said she could no longer work for a president who didn't know what day it was, among other things.smilies/shocked.gif I wonder what she meant.
Reply to Ederson
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 02, 2011

Ricardo: Ederson, you will love this video.

Minister Farrakhan: "That's A Murderer In The White House!" - June 10, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ture=share

Minister Louis Farrakhan speaking to over 500 religious leaders in New York on May 28, 2011.

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Ederson
written by João da Silva, July 02, 2011

Joao, you are correct.


I am correct just 49% of the time, Eddie! In spite of being from the poorer but brighter side of the Silvas .smilies/wink.gif

I wonder what she meant.


She means exactly what Collin Powell meant, though I think she is more political than Powell and probably aiming to be the first female POTUS . Don't you remember the history? I wonder what our friend ASP thinks of her, both of them being fellow Illinoisans & Chicagoans.

Kahn is an old Jewish name. It might have stemmed from the Hebrew word Cohen. Cohens were the priests of the Hebrews. I believe the first Cohens came from the tribe of Midianites. Mose's father, Jethro, was a Cohen.


Probably we both are right. The Jewish & Muslim names sound phonetically similar.Khan & Kahn, for eg. Kahn might have turned into Cohen, when they migrated to Europe & beyond.

It's a long story. Don't ask me how I know.


I ain't going to ask you, but can make an educated guess.smilies/cheesy.gif

Cheers. Time for Falafel (with peanut butter) and coffee.smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Joao, correction
written by Ederson, July 02, 2011
Technically, Jethro was Moses's father-in-law. I apologize for writing too quickly.
Germany, Switzerland, and Italy.
written by Ederson, July 02, 2011
It appears that Switzerland agrees with Germany when it comes to phasing out nuclear power by 2036. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Swiss currently get 40 percent of their power from nuclear sources. I also read that Italy has beaten both Germany and Switzerland to the punch and have already abandoned the atom. There's a lot to read concerning the subject.

The Russians are building a large number of new plants and would like to sell electricity to Germany. Interesting. I don't think the Germans would trust Russia as a dependable source of power, but who knows.
Ederson
written by João da Silva, July 02, 2011

I don't think the Germans would trust Russia as a dependable source of power, but who knows.


I don't think the "Jerries" trust anyone except themselves. But...but...but... "who knows"?smilies/smiley.gif

But..but..but.. never ever trust a Swiss, barring rare exceptions like ch.c (who must be in Benghazi, peddling arms to the "rebels" at 1.7% interest rate per annum ).Probably he reduced the interest rate to 1.6. One never knows how the "Swiss" mind works.smilies/cheesy.gif

BTW, the French are more open minded than the Swiss, Germans, Brits, Spaniards; etc;.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/cool.gif
scotch / irish, english, german
written by Simpleton, July 02, 2011
Asp, get ouwda heea bro! You're just joking with us right? They say I have a brother or a twin nearly everywhere I go. With the scotch / irish, english thing did that perhaps include the green irish and orange irish mix? Besides the green eyes I've always used that to explain why I'm always fighting with myself!

On a more serious note, is there a nuclear free zone and decent saltwater shore fishing near you? I have to start looking for safe haven for at least a few months (after hell here about 140 klicks north of Chicago freezes over) and showing my face again in Rio isn't going to work for me. (There's a vicious piranha preta infestation there although I'm still on good terms with her family.)
Reply to ASP
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 03, 2011

ASP, very nice group.

I always loved Brazilian music.
To all Brazzil magazine readers
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 03, 2011

Ricardo: In Memorium: Former Brazilian President Itamar Franco

Rest in Peace!


Veja a repercussão da morte de Itamar Franco – July 3, 2011
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/p...anco.shtml

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ric and simps
written by asp, July 03, 2011
ricardo, for sure rip for itamar franco

yeah, that music group is killing it . im so impressed how many great intstrumental players there are in brazil. in rio alone there are so many great piano players it is mind blowing : gilson peranzzetta , rafael vernet , luiz avelar , itamar assieri , ranieri ricardo , kiko contenentino , osmar milito , and many more . im just sorry that the mainstream media doesnt give these marvelous instrumentalists more space . they are so valuable to brazilian music and culture .

simps : im not sure about green/ orange....but im probably in the orange tinge

sure , there are wonderful places in brazil besides rio. porto de galinhas , recife ,marasias , garopaba....many more
The atom and Europe
written by Ederson, July 03, 2011
For those who are captivated by the atom debate in Europe, here is a quick synopsis. Norway wishes Sweden would build better nuclear reactors, for it wishes to buy its power from Sweden. Italy hates the atom and has abandoned it. Both Germany and Switzerland are giving up on the atom through a planned phaseout. England, on the other hand, is debating the need to build 10 more unprofitable reactors throughout Great Britain, which, will probably live off the public dole. These ten reactors the English wish to build will cost approximately 150 billion dollars. The Russians see Europe's distrust of nuclear power as a potential market for them. They are building a series of nuclear power stations on land captured from the Germans in World War II and wish to provide Europe with power.

How does this relate to Brasil? Don't know. However, anything that strengthens Brasil's scientific and industrial base should be developed, if not for profit, at least for R & D. Fossil fuels, however rich Brasil maybe, may also pose hazards and present unforeseen difficulties.
Europe might be living in the past; Brasil should certainly be living for the future. As the more developed countries make mistakes in any field, Brasil should be learning from those experiences.
Whatever Brasil does, I hope that it doesn't involve purchasing a reactor from another country, particularly Russia or the Ukraine.
If it's put to a vote, I hope Brasil goes and stays nuclear, even if only for R&D.smilies/wink.gif Congradulations Ederson for keeping on topic!smilies/cheesy.gif
Ederson
written by João da Silva, July 03, 2011

Brilliant comment, my lad. I am proud of ya!

Congradulations Ederson for keeping on topic!


Did your wife add this sentence before posting ? If so, I am proud of her too.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, July 03, 2011

In your next article, I strongly urge you to take into consideration Ederson´s brilliant comments :

How does this relate to Brasil? Don't know. However, anything that strengthens Brasil's scientific and industrial base should be developed, if not for profit, at least for R & D. Fossil fuels, however rich Brasil maybe, may also pose hazards and present unforeseen difficulties.Europe might be living in the past; Brasil should certainly be living for the future. As the more developed countries make mistakes in any field, Brasil should be learning from those experiences.


His line of thoughts coincide with that of ours.
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 03, 2011

Ricardo: Joao, you quoted Ederson as follows: "Europe might be living in the past; Brasil should certainly be living for the future. As the more developed countries make mistakes in any field, Brasil should be learning from those experiences."

Here is my answer for you:

Sunday, July 3, 2011
Jeremy Rifkin
http://thefinalcollapseoftheus...ifkin.html

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asp
written by João da Silva, July 04, 2011

Begging Eddie´s pardon for deviating from the "topic" under discussion:

How did you like Madame Rouseff´s decision to fire all the big shots in the Ministry of Transport? In case you didn't know, these SOBs were responsible for delaying the work on BR-101 Sul. I hope the Minister also goes and Dilma doesn't give him a consolation prize by creating another useless Ministry.smilies/angry.gif
Regarding NATO and Libya
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 05, 2011

Ricardo: Interesting speech.

Farrakhan Blasts the "Coalition of Demons" attacking Libya (June 15, 2011)


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Regarding NATO and Libya
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 05, 2011

Ricardo: Interesting speech.

Farrakhan Blasts the "Coalition of Demons" attacking Libya (June 15, 2011)


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Regarding NATO and Libya
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 05, 2011

Ricardo: Interesting speech.

Farrakhan Blasts the "Coalition of Demons" attacking Libya (June 15, 2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related
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joao
written by asp, July 05, 2011
i didnt know that the firing included people affecting the br 101

it sounds like a good thing to me....

its devastating to see what once was a calm city with managable trafic turn into a trafic jam nightmare

there have to be major infrastructure work or its going to get worse
asp
written by João da Silva, July 05, 2011

i didnt know that the firing included people affecting the br 101


Why do you think it is taking such a long time to finish? Now they expect to complete it by end 2013!!

its devastating to see what once was a calm city with managable trafic turn into a trafic jam nightmare


I am afraid it is going to get worse. smilies/angry.gif

Here is an interesting link for you to read:

http://www.estadao.com.br/noti...0950,0.htm

Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, July 06, 2011

Hi Ricardo,

Did you get to read the following article in FT?:

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0...z1RKNTbug7



Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 07, 2011

Ricardo: Joao, I have a subscription of the Financial Times (UK), and I read it every day.

Yesterday, they had a frontpage article about Finance Minister Mantega and the current "Currency war".

I know what I have been writing about that subject since late 2009 - "Brazil needs to start playing the same currency game as the United States and China".

Brazil lost over 100,000 manufacturing jobs in 2009, in 2010 Brazil lost another 60,000 manufacturing jobs, I wonder how many thousands jobs are being lost in 2011 - it is a good thing that Brazil has millions of jobs to export to other countries.

After that Brazilians can also play the stock market and be in La La Land like Americans have been doing for many years.

The exploding real is not only hurting the manufacturing business in Brazil, it is also hurting the tourism business as Brazil becomes a very expensive place to go.

Wall Street fever it is like an infectious disease that eventually would kill you. For example, high speed trading is a form of playing Russian roulette, it is fun to play until eventually the bullet will come thru and hit you right on your brain.

All this "Hot Money" landing in Brazil and raising the real exchange rate sky high, it is all part of an economic war that I have been writing about for many years.

Brazil has to throw most of these bums and scoundrels out of Brazil such as "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" and many of their Wall Street pals - and you know where these guys should shove their money - in that place that never sees any sunshine.

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Correction
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 07, 2011

You know what I have been writing about that subject since late 2009, since I posted on Brazzil magazine many times: "Brazil needs to start playing the same currency game as the United States and China".
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 07, 2011

Ricardo: Joao, please don't take it personally, after I posted the above it sounds like I am mad at you.

My posting reflects my anger and frustration about what is happening in Brazil regarding the "Hot Money" and the shinanigans that Wall Street is bringing to Brazil to pillage everything that they can get away with.


Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, July 07, 2011


Ricardo: Joao, please don't take it personally, after I posted the above it sounds like I am mad at you.


No, Rickey, I didn't take it personally nor felt you sounded mad at me. I thought you were expressing the thoughts of many sane and logical Brasilian friends, colleagues and relatives. I am as angry as you are for seeing the country being run aimlessly. We have so many things and so much to offer(in terms of natural & human resources) to the world that it is frustrating to see that we are being pushed back to the 80´s (Remember the "lost decade"?).

I think that our leadership is lacking the guts to negotiate with the "Shenanigans" not only from the Wall Street, but also from elsewhere at arms length. I endorse your earlier view:

It will be like taking candy away from children, because the Brazilian politicians are very corrupt, and most Brazilian business people are trying to make a fast buck.

You are right. Look at the dispute between Abilio Diniz & Casino. The former wants to use the BNDES funds to merge Pão de Açúcar with Carrefour. In case you don't know what´s going on, here is the link:

http://blogs.estadao.com.br/ra...no-brasil/

If the funds of BNDES is used to set up industries to stimulate to create new products, more jobs, bring in new technology, etc;, we as tax payers would be happy. But it does seem to be so and the very purpose of that bank is questionable now.

I can go on and on with my rants, but just want to assure you that I am not mad or upset with you. A bit upset that people like you, Ederson, ASP, Simp and many others are "chopping and chopping, but no chips are flying".

Changing the topic: How is your cousin Dª.Marina & how does she feel about Brasil going back to the "lost decade"?


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