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Who and What Is Killing Tourism in Brazil? PDF Print E-mail
2011 - August 2011
Written by John R. Miller   
Sunday, 07 August 2011 20:58

Brazilian tourism My wife and I have been engaged in the hospitality & tourism industry in Brazil for 14+ years. Principally we have been involved with inbound international tourism, hospitality and accommodation in Rio de Janeiro. Annually we receive several hundred people from all over the world, principally from Europe, North America, and a small but trending increase from Oceania, Asia, Middle East and Africa.

At a time when the opportunities for tourism would seem to be the best in years for Brazil, with major tourism events including the 2014 World Cup and the 2016 Olympic Games, we find that, overall, international tourism to Brazil has some serious challenges and impediments to growth.

There are several reasons for these impediments and limits to growth, some of which can be controlled, some of them not.

First there is economics. The recent depreciation of the euro, US dollar and British pound against the Brazilian real has meant that the three largest inbound tourist groups by geography are finding Brazil no longer as affordable as it once was.

This has particularly hard hit the price sensitive youth hostel/back packer market, but also the middle market of demographics; those in the late 20s and 30s and even families. Retired income travelers are also looking very carefully at where to spend their travel budgets.

Secondly, there is the issue of visas for many citizens visiting Brazil. I think everyone understands the basis for reciprocity in visa related travel. It has historically been logical and fair up until a point. But with unemployment at 9.5% in the USA & current exchange rates, and Brazil having such a low level of unemployment, the desire for Brazilians to enter the USA for work illegally is surely minimal at present.

Other changes in laws in the USA would also seem to be sufficient deterrent to working in the USA illegally. Forcing inbound tourists from G20 countries to get visas is just another bureaucratic barrier & cost to travel. This really looks like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Third, and perhaps a popular (deserved?) target is the international airports in Brazil. It is really hard to find a sympathetic reason to defend Infraero, the airports owners, operators and their current conditions.

Terminal 1 at Rio's Tom Jobim Galeão Airport has been a disgrace of work-in-progress for several years now (I recently experienced an animal or bird in the roof of Terminal 1 defecating on my shoes while waiting to collect my bags).

São Paulo/Guarulhos Airport is more suited to a COUNTRY of 3-4 million people rather than a CITY of 20 million people. The domestic airport of Congonhas has a history of fatal accidents stretching back 50 years. The best thing that can be said for Congonhas is it provides some form of adrenaline experience, like bungee jumping or hang gliding.

The Brasília airport is "quaint" to put a kind word on it. Medium-long term, Brazil's airports will prove to be a major constraint on tourism unless capacity, amenities, airport processing time are dramatically improved.

(Rumor has it that "Breaking & Losing Luggage" has been asked to be classified as an Olympic sport for 2016 by Infraero baggage handlers.)

Fourth, look to where middle class Brazilians spend their vacations! Why would a Brazilian vacation domestically, if when he/she travels abroad they save probably 2000-3000 reais each on the purchase of electronics goods, clothes, etc purchased in WalChinamart in the USA?

Brazilians now are the highest spending per capita tourists in the US, and for good reason, it is so much cheaper to shop in the USA than in Brazil. The high import duties and taxes on everything that is imported into Brazil, means for most families, a once a year trip to the shopping malls of Miami or New York is cost justifiable, airfare included; and while they are there, give the children a Disneyland experience.

There are a couple of other factors that are not helping much either.

Take for instance the "Lei Seca". No one can fault the good intentions of this law, and the need to educate about the consequences of alcohol and driving at high speed. Having said this, I always maintain that it is VELOCITY that kills, not the alcohol. But a consequence of this zero tolerance law is that the only way you can go to a restaurant and have a share a bottle of wine with your wife and then go home is via taxi, walk, or public transport.

And sometimes that is not worth it, or practical (try getting a taxi in Rio during a thunderstorm). So as a consequence, restaurants all over Rio are going through a very hard time; revenue is down, and wagers of restaurant have increased dramatically, with little or no change in productivity. Why bother with all this, when you can cook for yourself at home and get what you want?

In addition, a typical meal for 2 people in Rio, including a bottle of wine will set you back 200-250 reais (e.g. Porcão Rio is now 90 reais +10% per head just for the buffet, excluding drinks and desert).

If you then convert that into dollars (US$ 160), you can see you would be able to have a truly outstanding gastronomic experience in New York for the same amount of money. Along Avenida Atlântica in Rio, several landmark restaurants in prime locations have closed in recent months.

I have spoken to several restaurant owners and they are all of the same opinion; they need to reduce the labor content of their restaurant and move to more self service buffet style, and increase revenue as material input (meat, vegetables, etc) have increased so much. People including tourists are dining out less, or spending less on what they can afford.

Labor laws in Brazil remain draconian. Tourism almost by definition is seasonal with peaks and low seasons, and requires seasonal labor and a flexible work force. Even within a season, occupancy at hotels can vary dramatically from day to day (literally 0 to 100% occupancy turnover per day). But Brazilian labor laws, penalty rates, and rates of pay have far outstripped inflation with very little if any productivity increase or flexibility. 

Many small and family owned Hotel/Bed & Breakfast businesses could easily accommodate 50% more staff if we had the flexibility to have people work when there is work, and have people not work when there is no work. Instead what happens is management and existing full time labor pick up the extra work load during peak season. That may be good for some people, but it does nothing to entice management to take on more staff.

Language still remains a huge challenge for tourists. Mountains of language school work still to be done here for staff working in tourism. And let me be the first to defend the language of Portuguese; it is a beautiful language, so romantic, rhythmic, rich, colorful, descriptive and historic.

I would prefer to hear someone sing in Portuguese to English any day. But the reality is, English is the dominant first or second language for most people, especially tourists. This probably will only be resolved generationally by some interesting web based technology helping to resolve and accelerate education in this area.

Finally, I want to mention "customer service", and this can be a touchy topic but so important to tourism industry. I have experienced both ends of the spectrum of service in Brazil. When service in Brazil is good, it is really good. Some consistently good examples include HortaFruti green grocery stores and Zona Sul supermarkets.

I only wish these 2 shops were on the tourist trail! I will refrain from discussing the other end of the spectrum of service as I am of the opinion that bad service can only last so long before consumers vote with their feet. But in the middle of the spectrum of customer service is a large gray area and a gap between expectation and reality.

On one side is the supplier of the service; a waiter, a chef, a bank employee, a travel agent, a tour guide, a hotel owner/operator, etc. On the other a tourist. Frequently the expectations do not align, and for a very good reason; one party has experienced service in several countries, and has a basis for comparison, the other party has largely not had this basis for comparison.

And for this, the management of the employees needs to be held accountable, not the employees themselves. Management all too often does not want to be engaged at the front line, simply because they do not have the skills, training or the cross cultural awareness and experience to deal with these situations. Just leave the poor front line staff to muddle through and give a mixed service experience.

Several countries have mastered the art of repeat tourism, France, Italy, Thailand to name a few. These countries frequently have tourists that have been 2,3,4, or more times to visit them.

Brazil has the diversity and scale to offer this type of repeat experience, where tourists will venture to Brazil several times to see its natural beauty, history, culture, music, art, ecology, vibrancy, etc. But all too often, the first experience is proving to be the last experience and the reasons are :

* Cost : Brazil is no longer seen as an affordable destination. Exchange rates and local taxation are choking the life out of the hospitality industry.

* Inconvenience (Visa hassles, bureaucratic nightmare at airports, slowness).

* Inconsistent service quality.

Brazil has the ingredients for an amazing tourist industry, but the foundations at the moment need a lot of work.



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John Miller
written by João da Silva, August 07, 2011

An interesting article, but I think the main reason is the first one you cited.

First there is economics. The recent depreciation of the euro, US dollar and British pound against the Brazilian real has meant that the three largest inbound tourist groups by geography are finding Brazil no longer as affordable as it once was.


I am sure you are have a pretty good reading knowledge of Portuguese and the following article will reinforce your main point.

http://www.estadao.com.br/noti...3916,0.htm

Even the domestic tourists find it extremely expensive to travel in Brasil (except while visiting friends and relatives with whom they can stay to avoid expensive hotel and restaurant costs). The trend for the Brasilians now is to travel overseas to spend a week or two and it works out to be cheaper than to go to "Nordeste". As you know, we do not need visas to go to many countries in Europe.

This trend is expected to continue until the "Real" gets devalued, but I have a feeling that it is not going to be so soon.


Hello to all !
written by ch.c., August 08, 2011
Especially to Joao da Silva.
I am doing great...with these markets around the world.
Hopefully you are doing well too. I recall in mid February when you stated
it was time to load UP on Brazilians stocks, while I said the opposite.

Have you been capitulating...lately ?
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Today, Monday August 8th I am reversing my 50 % net short to 50 % net long. And will keep ammunition (cash) if the markets will go lower as said in February until the September/October time window.
I am also reversing my short USD/CHF, and my short EUR/CHF.

Sell when there is greed and buy when there is fears remains my name of the game.

Laugh...laugh....laugh... !

I thought you would be smarter. When Wall Street is launching many many NEW issues for a while, that smell A TOP, not a bottom.
You forgot it was no different in 2007 !
And there were truck loads of new stocks issues !
A typical sucker game : buy high....sell low !
Even the largest new issue this year, GLENCORE, issued at 530 pence are selling now at just below 400 pence

Going back to Miller and the article, I must say that many brazilians LEAVE Brazil in the hope to find a better life.....ELSEWHERE. Be it in the United States of Anarchy, the United King-Kong, the EU or Chweesezerland. Incredible how the brazilian community grow in Geneva.

Funnily these braz-zeroes dont go where the economy is booming such as in Brazil, China, Russia, India, South Africa, Thailand, Malaysia, or why not in Egypt, Tunisia or Morocco smilies/grin.gif ! Not good enough for them in their view !

Ohhh my...Ohhh my !

Quite similar to the junkie fuc%&(ing Ricardo C. Amaral who love so much Brazil (as per his many articles) that he resides in the....USA, with money pillaged by his dynasty in Brazil for generationsssss !
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As for braz-zeroes tourism in Europe....welllll quite different than stated from Miller. July was a very very very rainy and cold summer after an extraordinary good spring.
Thus far in August...half time almost cold, half time warm !

I draw the attention to Miller that since 2004, yearly, Brazil had a DEFICIT IN TOURISM (between foreigners going to Brazil and Brazilians going elsewhere)
THUS...NOTHING NEW.
Brazilians HIGHER middle class can travel since 2004, which they could not afford EARLIER for almost 2 decades ! Lower class just want to get out of that fuc&&&ing country and try to get a better lifestyle elsewhere.
And those doing tax evasion in Brazil & South America either buy some real estate CASH with no mortgage in FLORIDA, or are setting up bank accounts....in EUROPE (GUESS WHERE !)
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In my view many Brazilians air fares for apparent tourism are...ONE WAY TICKET !smilies/grin.gif

And as to Nike Shoe :, cant you afford to pay for advertising your 5 dollars shoes made in Bangladesh that you pretend are REAL ONES ??????
More than doubtful !

For your info, today in dollars I bought GOL, ITUB (Itau) and Petrobras (PBR not PBRa).
But not convinced this is the bottom as said above. Time will tell !

I wont be able to read your answer, because too busy enjoying life !

Kind regards to all....except to Ricardo C. Amaral ! smilies/angry.gif

Furthermore.....
written by ch.c., August 08, 2011
after i clicked to send my previous post, it was said it will be published after having been reviewed by an administrator.
Well this idiot of administrator is probably under the influence of a gallon of ethanol and with a company of a 10 years old Lolita.
HE ALLOWED NIKE SHOES FREE ADVERSTING ARTICLE.
In my view both should be from same family dynasty : AMARAL !

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Brasil Tourisim
written by Douglas, August 08, 2011
John,
Very good points. I noticed that the restaurants along Ave. Atlantica are practically vacant at all hours while passing on the sidewalk. What you have pointed out will also have negative impacts on other segments of the economy. I have told my wife, Brazilian, that values in Rio will fall if the value of the Real does not drop. I am paid in dollars and I long for the good old days of 3 real to the dollar.
regards,
Douglas
What do you think of Embratur promotion strategies?
written by Regina / Deep Brazil, August 08, 2011
That's a pretty good analysis, John - one can tell you are an insider, with both a good sense of observation and positioned to have first hand info.
I wonder what is your opinion on Embratur's strategies. For a very long time it invested in the "sexy" approach, sending abroad brochures and posters filled with close ups of naked girls on the beach. Lately, it seems to have chance it's focus to historical and natural beauties (I collected some samples of this shift on a post, Paradise still unexplored (http://deepbrazil.com/2010/01/...nexplored/).
My question is: is it enough?
Drugs and crime
written by Theman, August 08, 2011
While I am in agreement with most of the author's points, he neglects to mention that the impression of Brasil in many countries is that this country is full of drug-addled, violent citizens just waiting to rob and/or kill gringoes. And while some cities might have made great progress in the past couple of years, many have not (Salvador, for example, is spiralling out of control). But that doesn't really matter, because Brasil's image abroad has not changed.
Why would anyone pay a huge premium in terms of the exchange rate, put up with pompous Brasilians and their absurd attitude toward customer service (which they will have had enough of by the time they go through the visa process and deal with the a*****es who are employed at Brazilian consulates and embassies around the world)to visit a country in which they willnot feel safe? There are enough easy places in this world to visit where you will be treated well without having to worry about the half-assed attitude toward tourism and gringoes in Brasil.
Service . . . .
written by capnamerca, August 08, 2011
It starts with the visa process and gets worse from there. I'm not sure if this is just anti-americanism, or if they treat other nationalities the same. I must say though, at some businesses, the service is exemplary, but at more, it is terrible. I once arrived in Recife and the gal at the car rental counter assigned a car to me with totally bald tires. She insisted the tires were safe, and refused to get me a different car. At the counter, she went over a list with her assistant to pick out a car for me, so I know they had other cars, but she wouldn't budge. Needless to say, I'll never do business with that company again.

And the expense. So many things in Brazil are exorbitant in their cost, and do net reflect the exchange rate. I know a lot of that is taxes, but a lot of it also is just plain usury. I'm certain that the producers collaborate to fix prices on many products in Brazil.

The other thing is the crime. With increased access to international news, when people are planning a vacation, it's simple to check out crime reports and statistics. First time I came to Brazil, I read everything I could find, and it scared me to drive across the country. I almost expected to be robbed every time I stopped for gas or a bite to eat. The other thing is human rights abuses and poverty. people do not like to support a country that has the record Brazil has.
to capnamerca, theman
written by wisemann, August 09, 2011
Such treatment is reserved for pompous, arrogant anglo-saxons & obnoxious jews who think the world owes them a living! It's called reciprocity. Do you know what Brasilians have to go thru to get visas to the anglo-saxon countries.

If you were expecting Brasilians to grovel & kiss your asses a la the indians & asiatics, bad news they dont....

Dont talk about human rights & poverty. When was the last time you folks visited detroit, cleveland, buffalo, bronx, inner los angeles, birmingham, manchester, liverpool, windsor, halifax, darwin, brisbane etc. Plus the anglo saxon countries are all currently engaged in illegal, genocidal wars of choice & crimes against humanity.

you hypocritical obese dumbed down know nothing pieces of human feces are full of it. Best your type stay away from Brasil. The industrial tourism of mexico, the carribean & thailand await & yearn for your presence.
be serious
written by us torpedo of truth, August 09, 2011
no f**king sane american even thinks of going to brazil ... the only thing most americans know of brazilians is that they are high violaters of us immigration laws .the majority of brazilian nationals in the usa are illegal criminal aliens ...
@wiseman
written by Nicholas (us_male), August 09, 2011
wise comment mr wiseman, but not all jews or anglo-saxons are ignorant obnoxious blowhards like idiot captian america, the(little)man and clown torpedo. Those are just frustrated unemployed losers that prefer to comment on Brazilian topics rather than their own problems.
Indeed great parts cities like detroit, cleveland, buffalo, great parts of NYC,los angeles,oakland, birmingham, manchester, liverpool, london, Paris, brisbane are dump areas where poverty and hunger are major issues while the people there are on welfare. Of course, they prefer not to talk about that because it doesn't fit their ego agenda, whatever that is. And as for clown torpedo, majority of brazilian nationals aren't illegal aliens,secondly majority of the brazilians who were illegal in the US already left because of lack of job, and third, brazilians are now pumping billions of dollars into the local economy when they buy the made in china stuff in US shopping malls, 4th and last, only f**king insane american losers like you won't go to Brazil because they can't afford it.
Nicholas (us_male)
written by João da Silva, August 09, 2011

brazilians are now pumping billions of dollars into the local economy when they buy the made in china stuff in US shopping malls,


Alas, you speak the truth, Nickey. Even though the Chinese made plastic buckets are available in shopping malls in Brasil, they cost much more than the prices charged in the good ole U.S. of A.smilies/sad.gif
Needless to say that is because of the higher import duties and other taxes levied by the Federal and State governments here. Though it is difficult to find American made products in the stores in the U.S., the alternatives are available to compete with the products made in PRC. Like products from Vietnam, Bangladesh,Pakistan, India, etc; The last time I was in the U.S., I gifted myself with a Nikon Digital camera. Though the brand and design are Japanese, it was made in Vietnam. Few months after I returned, the Nikon cameras were introduced in Brasil and the particular model I bought was priced 3 1/2 times more in Reais.

So you are right. Brasilians have lately become big shoppers in the U.S. of A, because of the "inexpensive" dollar exchange rate.
...
written by asp, August 09, 2011
i love travling in brazil

ive got business up in recife in a couple of weeks and im dying to get to alfaiate restaurante and have carne de sol and try to find some incredible folklorico drumming and dancing, they have so much great stuff up there...

i love brazilian cooking, it is my favorite, the fruits alone are magic...

where you can hit horrible delays and i dont like the cattle bus rides in sao paulo, there is much less of the tsa paranoia that flying in the states is.

i think if a person knows where they are going they can avoid some of the hassles that can frustrate the person who doesnt quite know the place they are going.

i tell you this, if you get to the right beach and can be near some folkloric culture that has great drumming and dancing, along with the food, you can have one of the most exiting times of your life
ch.c
written by João da Silva, August 09, 2011

Hello to all !
written by ch.c., August 08, 2011
Especially to Joao da Silva.


Thanks ch.c., for letting us all know that you are still alive and kicking. Every single f**king blogger (pardon my colorful language-because I get too influenced by ASP) thought you were "liquidated" by the rebel forces in Benghazi. Of course it is your fault as usual for not reassuring us that everything is "blau" at your end. smilies/sad.gif

BTW, I was in Europe in May and almost came close to visiting you, but...but...but...but...but..., because of your long silence, I assumed that you were resting under the sands of Sahara in peace.smilies/wink.gif

But...but...but...but.... N times, glad to hear from ya.

Oh BTW, I bought some Swiss made tools in your honor. They are less expensive than the Chinese made ones sold here and I am happy with the products "Proudly made in Switzerland".smilies/cool.gif
...
written by wisemann, August 10, 2011
Nicolas, thanks for your support. Everytime I go to the US I have to shake my head - fascist levels of 'security' w/ 80% of security personnel obese & illiterate.

Same goes for the population - 80% obese & junk food addicted. Most appear stressed, depressed, angry & frustrated. The riots in britain are a good example of this (although britain is not the US, they share many base characteristics.

Read a stat somewhere that stated that the US experienced a net out migration of people in 2010 of 2 million.

I find the chinese junk sold at Walmart cheap in price & also cheaper in quality. The walmart employees mostly indebted retirees, quite pathetic.

The Radio stations are mostly extremist talk shows. I also find the banks quite primitive compared to Brasilian banks. The service levels at most public places are surly. The quality of food, fruit, vegetables, bread, etc. at the grocery stores is gross. I think our cattle in Mato Grosso are better fed.

I am hearing anecdotally that most of the rich Brasilians prefer continental Europe, Aruba, Curacao, etc. It's the middle classes that go to the US now on mass shopping excursions & combine this with some traditional touristic activity. But the main focus is shopping.
List of fastest growing airports
written by johnzinho, August 10, 2011

Fastest growing airports (with more than 5 million annual passengers):

1. Istanbul, Turkey
2. Campinas, Brazil
3. Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
4. Charleroi, Belgium
5. Moscow (Sheremetyevo), Russia
6. Belo Horizonte, Brazil
7. Bogota, Colombia
8. Phuket, Thailand
9. Shanghai, China
10. Muscat, Oman



Read more: World's busiest airports announced | CNNGo.com http://www.cnngo.com/bangkok/v...z1UdmBxmsu
just some comments
written by svencarioca, August 10, 2011
- The main obstacle in a US visa waiver program is not the number of Brazilians that might illegally stay in the US, but the fat that the Brazilian passport is too easy to falsify (at least the old one of which there are still many in circulation)

- airports: Have you ever seen the "international airport" of Manaus?smilies/grin.gif

- Porcão: The prices they charge are outrageous. They are only interested in the richest of clients. They are almost always full, so higher prices just reduce the waiting time for their select clientele. As a Brazilian, you must be a member of the elite to be able to pay R$ 90 per person.

- Labor Laws: They aren't draconian, they are just socialist in stead of liberal like in the US. You can hire people for seasonal work.
Joao, svencarioca
written by Nicholas (us_male), August 10, 2011
- Labor Laws: They aren't draconian, they are just socialist in stead of liberal like in the US. You can hire people for seasonal work.

Nonsense, The Labor laws in Brazil are draconian. It needs to become flexible. Even European nations like Germany with it's "socialist but flexible" labor laws beats the US with it's (neo)liberal Labor Laws.


wiseman
written by João da Silva, August 10, 2011

I find the chinese junk sold at Walmart cheap in price & also cheaper in quality. The walmart employees mostly indebted retirees, quite pathetic.


Go slow on the poor Americans who work for Walmart, Herr.Wisemann. Their Brasilian counterparts may be younger, but they are not better off either. In case you don't know, Walmart operates here also but with different names!
walmart
written by wisemann, August 10, 2011
'In case you don't know, Walmart operates here also but with different names'

yes i know - with names like 'big, 'mercadorama' etc.....walmart & affiliates in brasil all badly run & terrible.

walmart will fail in brasil just as they failed in germany & korea.
brasilian labor laws
written by wisemann, August 10, 2011
were designed to protect brasilian workers from being exploited & fired at will.

if a company is going to fire somebody at will (as in the anglo-judeo system), they should think very carefully b4 hiring them. a good & serious co. hires for the long term & short term. brasilian labor law is more akin to the japanese, germanic & nordic countries. there is no need to regress to the predatory anglo-judeo system.

if 1 is looking for cheap labor & an opportunity to exploit them or fire them at will, then please take your company to the asiatic zone - vietnam, bangladesh, indonesia, etc. they would love to have you.

the goal here is to build an egalitarian social democracy despite the challenges. this can be done as in south brasil & states like mato grosso do sul, etc.
Visa policies
written by me, August 11, 2011
In politically correct style, the article addresses Visas as a reciprocity issue and blames the U.S. rather than simply stating that if the difficulty and expense of getting Brazilian Visas is a problem for promoting tourism in Brazil, then it's up to Brazil to change its own policy and loosen the Visa requirements.
wiseman
written by João da Silva, August 11, 2011

walmart will fail in brasil just as they failed in germany & korea.


I dunno, Herr.Wisemann. There seems to be a big run to buy our traditional Retail Stores by the big multinational corporations.

The latest news is that the Australian retailers Westfield is entering our state. I don't think they are here to sell Kangaroo hide to the Brasilian consumers, but probably to promote plastic buckets made in PRC in 10 installments w/o "juros".smilies/sad.gif



Retailers
written by wisemann, August 11, 2011
Yes Joao, I read about Westfield. Many of these cos. are overreaching. Australia is a small country of 20m people. Retailers like Westfield have nowhere to go. The US is dominated by Walmart, Target, Sears, etc. Europe is dominated by Tesco in Britain, Carrefour in France, etc. & the German & Swiss giants Makro, etc. dominate Norden & Mittel Europa.

Walmart has a strategic problem. As the Chinese Yuan continues to strengthen & their labor & commodity input costs go up, they will in addition to uncle Ben's loose money policy add to inflation in the US. As the US middle class sinks into the jobless underclass, Walmarts core customer base becomes gradually eroded. They have also still not mastered the challenges of managing logistics in Brasil & in the end Walmart is but a logistics & merchandising co. Their merchandising stinks compared to Brasilian retailers. Their stores in Brasil are generally not clean & maintained & their employees are 'lost'.

Also as Brasilian commercial real estate costs keep rising in the large & mid size metros, their 'big box' model becomes increasingly expensive to operate. Most of their growth in Brasil has been via acquisition (BIG, Mercadorama, etc.). I dont see them being a good 'fit' with Brasil's Carrefour's operation.

I believe you probably live in the South. The american chains are no comparison to cos. like Festival, Angeloni, Zaffari's etc.

I would not sweat this too much. My main concern is the preservation & growth of the country's industrial & agribusiness base.
Visa me
written by wisemann, August 11, 2011
'the difficulty and expense of getting Brazilian Visas' is also designed as a barrier to entry in order to keep out no. american beavis & butthead trailer trash. For them the visaless 'industrial' tourism is better suited.

Brasilian tourism does not need this type of customer. The strategy of focusing on upscale niche market 'ecotourism' & 'experience' based 'leisure' tourism is a much better option. There is absolutely no reason for Brasil to change it's visa policy unless is is based on reciprocity.
Nicholas the freshmen student majoring in "how to be a usefull idiot"... or "another naive punk talking s**tt
written by us torpedo of truth, August 12, 2011
@nickleless,,, which translated from bastardized portugues means you aren,t worth a nickle!!.. listen freshman punk .. you contradict yourself when you say "majority of brazilian nationals aren,t illegal aliens" the only place "the majority of brazilian nationals aren,t illegal aliens" is in brazil ... You f**king moron what do you live in your pets dog house with no electricity or outside contact .the majority of brazilian nationals in the usa are in violation of us laws on illegal presence up to 80%.Or ,, plainly put for a moron "illegal aliens" eluding us immigration authorities ,us immigration law fugitives !!..subject to arrest and deportation .huge numbers of this illegal brazilians group entered the usa with the assistance of traffickers/smugglers via mexico,canada,and the bahamas via, dominica republic ,aruba... any questions piss ant ??..these statistics come from us state ,DHS,FBI, and the states where they can be found ie:florida ,pompano/deerfield beach,north miami beach,connecticutt,massachusetts,new york.the most commonly abused and corrupted visa issued in brazil to brazilian nationals to enter the usa is a tourist visa which they then violate the terms f their visit and overstay and obtain counterfeit fraudelent documents to remain as illegal aliens joining the many other illegals from south and central america and mexico india ,and china and russia .the united states of america the worlds sole superpower and the overwhelming majority of americans are fed up with this crime wave of foreign nationals entering the usa and violating the terms of their tourist viasa and or sneaking in like rats across our land and sea borders....the issue of allowing brazil or mexico or any other country who is on a list of high violaters of us immigration laws getting some kind of increase or loosening up of entry rules to the us is absurd ...get it !! absurd ...americans want these disrespectfull inherently criminal illiterate illegals to get the f**k out of the usa ..or surely be arrested and deported... up until 10 years ago the average american never even mentioned brazil much less knew or even met one .
you hate americans but aspire to live like americans which is your paradox of disfunctionalism
written by us torpedo of truth, August 12, 2011
i guess the answer to this authors question is simply that it is BRASIL and Brazilians who have ruined their countrys tourism ...high crimes against tourists,a populace that is anti-american , third world infrastructure, and a notorius reputation in the world for crime pick-pockets assaults robberies corruption prostitution and disease... your public relations and politics and inferiority complex which is teeming with jealousy and envy of the rich western nations is your weakness ..we owe you nothing you owe us respect ,especially of our laws when entering our country.you have abused that priveledge..
bad news 4 us torpedo (that doesnt work)
written by wiseman, August 12, 2011
the same applies to no. amer. illegals in brasil, all visa violators & you'll be surprised about the #s....

due to high real unemployment rates in u.s. (over 20%) many coming to brasil to work (across all professions - blue & white collar).

net out migration from u.s. in 2010 - in the region of 2.5 mil.

most brasilians aspire to live as continental europeans, not no. americans.

brasil IS an upper mid-income 'western' country (but not anglo-judeo).

i think you are the 1 living in the doghouse. your posts denote a bitter, angry uneducated, jobless 'simpson'.
"let them go!!! these unruly ignorant bastards with the blood of a thousand whores ." quote: queen isabella on letting brazil go on its own to rot in its own filth and corruption
written by us torpedo of truth, August 13, 2011
brazilians ? continental europeans ??.. you are delusional!! and your ego is as with most of you bastards of the former european portugues empire out of sink with reality .. spain portugal and england would just as soon every single brazilian national with no papers to get the f**k out of their country and take their cartoon like blue and yellow goof ball national flag with them ..your so-called petrobras company which is government owned because you have zero experience in any heavy industrie and no deep sea capabilitie to extract your as you have put it tremendous offshore oil and gas fields. the usa government just gave you ungratefull mutts 3billion us$ to help you get at this as you put it tremendous oil.bitter ? angry? jobless? Huh !!!..your wrong again little mutt !!... i will not even debate my wealth or education because that is irrelevant to the facts of which a delusional third world punk with a bad case of jealousy and envy can not seem to face ,,you know "facts man" !!.. "truth" ,"the real truth" on what goes on with brazil its arrogance and bluffing and anti -american anti capitalist propaganda..its about brazil being a high violater of us laws on illegal immigration and the blind eye the brazilian government gives to the brazilian scumbags trafficking illegal brazilians to the usa and europe. from places like minas gerais ,belo horizonte ,manaus ,rio,etc.americans much like the rich european continentals you aspire to emulate find the idea of visiting brazil to get mugged and hounded by beggrs and cheap whores repulsive and not on anyones wish list ...now get the f**k out of our country unless you have legal documents to be here..we don,t need any cheap housecleaners and fence painters and green card whores ..
us torpedo (that doesnt work)
written by wiseman, August 13, 2011
there is no need to 'debate' your 'wealth' & 'education' because you have none.

u sound like an underpaid mossad blogger! go get yourself a real job.....u obviously have alot of time on your hands - u unskilled, do nothing, know nothing, dumbed down piece of no. amer. human feces.

be careful, the banks may be foreclosing on your doghouse.
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written by Americano, August 13, 2011
be careful, the banks may be foreclosing on your doghouse.

That was pretty funny smilies/cheesy.gif

As angry as he is, he's not wrong.

Americano
written by João da Silva, August 13, 2011

As angry as he is, he's not wrong.


He may be angry but he is wrong. He has to understand that there is no point in ranting and raving about the "Brasilian illegals" going over to the good ole U.S. of A to make a "better living". The illegals are every where in the U.S. and Europe and not just confined to the Brasilian nationality. In case you didn't know, our ex-first lady made sure that her family took the Italian citizenship for the "better future" of her "Filhos". The unskilled labor goes where the mighty Dollar or Euro pays them more for their "expertise" and "muscle power". On the contrary, the "brain power" goes to any country where their knowledge is valued and compensated financially.

Herr.Wisemann is not totally wrong. Brasil right now welcomes "brain power" and not "muscle power" regardless of their country of origin.smilies/wink.gif
Joao, u.s. torpedo (that doesnt work) & americano will not like this: mainstream US Press
written by wisemann, August 13, 2011
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08....html?_r=1

http://news.yahoo.com/no-major-slowdown-brazil-consumers-still-happily-spending-024712254.html

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/ojkfgbcwojsn/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904823804576504684049286002.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

some more: kapish torpedo head & amerjo
written by wiseman, August 13, 2011
http://dollarcollapse.com/the-...ed-states/

http://www.care2.com/causes/student-loan-debt-could-cause-the-next-financial-crisis.html

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/08/america-next-end-of-the-world-as-we-knew-it/243503/

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/08/massive-riots-britain-today-america-tomorrow/243361/

http://www.businessinsider.com/urban-warming-and-racial-climate-change-2011-8?utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Business Insider Select&utm_campaign=BI_Select_081211

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHrzSLgu-Lk&feature=player_embedded#at=25
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written by Brazileiro Pé no Chão, August 14, 2011
Brasil right now welcomes "brain power" and not "muscle power" regardless of their country of origin


That's because Brazil does not have any "brain power". They will always the the world's supplier of unskilled muscle power.
your bulls**t is higher then a texas brahman bull on a laxative.which incidentally you buy these texas bulls to improve your livestock because texas bulls are the finest in the world .
written by us torpedo of truth, August 14, 2011
as for your emerging middle class only a brainwashed south american mutt could possibly believe the s**t coming out of your one media source of information of propaganda .you have a socialist marxist ex-convict for a president .you have huge barriers to foreigners investing in brazil otherwise we would send warren buffet and bill gates down there to buy your entire country for a few reals unfortunately for you no ones on the market for a mosquito infested country comprising of 2 thirds swamp and a bastardized populace of 80 million poors and illiterates.your great emerging middle class is a f**king myth put out by your ministers of propaganda .. your a quasi-socialist state that tilts to the far left .your reputation in the world is third world crime and corruption and disease.your interest rates are obscene. your infrastruture is third world donkey cart 300 years behind.you have the worlds highest murder rate (rio ).huge numbers of diseased prostitutes who prey on westerners continental europeans and the very few americans who go there . and the usa state department gives americans so many cautions and warnings about traveling there about pickpockets ,anti-american sentiment,assaults,robberies ,rapes and muggings that no sane american would even go to brazil.you no know nothing about the usa save the ridiculous telemundo version of going to "america" which is about how illegal brazilians sneak into the usa to clean houses and paint fences for very little us dollars as they live in cheap overcrowded flop houses in crappy bldgs in boston new york florida and connecticutt but of course you glorify this with misinformation .if your economy and country is doing so well then why are such high numbers of brazilian nationals fleeing brazil to live like rats in the usa and europe where they are unwanted as illegal parasites . we see a few brazilian nationals rich educated ones buying miami condos as solid investments as they plan to retire there at least for six months of the year instead of buying in crime ridden sao paulo or crime infested rio de janeiro ...besides the usa is a better investment for rich foreigners and has a more glamourous lifestyle for the hip and enlightened.lets face it many brazilian women love tall handsome rich attractive modern confident american men as opposed to the short stout peasant stock of the jealous possesive insecure inferiority complex latin american males .... brazil is not a preferred destination for westerners and continental europeans to visit or vacation ..the usa tourism industry is the biggest in the world because there is no greater country in the world then the united states of america and there is no country in the world richer or more powerfull militarily .no country in the world comes close to its superiority .. guaranteed !!!..
topedo
written by asp, August 14, 2011
what the f**k is wrong with you ?

what did any brazilian do to you to get such a warped veiw of brazil and brazilians ?

that is about as cynical and skewed point of veiw about brazilians as ive seen

brazil is absolutly one of the most fascinating and fantastic places anyone could visit compared to anywhere in the world

i only go to europe if i can make money there and ive been there 3 times

id much rather explore another part of brazil i havent seen yet

to single out brazilians as some illegal alian in the usa is ridiculas and hilarious compared to mexican or other nationalities

why the bug up your ass about brazilians ?
asp
written by João da Silva, August 14, 2011

what the f**k is wrong with you ?


Ah thought Herr.Wisemann had already responded to your question.smilies/wink.gif

id much rather explore another part of brazil i havent seen yet


Here is a link for ya to read. It is about the latest bus service from SP to Lima in Peru. Reminded me of my young and foolish days when I took the Greyhound from FL to CA.smilies/cheesy.gif

http://www.estadao.com.br/noti...8123,0.htm

Wouldn't mind trying the SP-Lima Bus service. If I get tired, I can always stop at our frontier, relax for a few days and catch the same bus again to reach Lima. smilies/wink.gif

BTW, I have never been to Peru nor Venezuela though they are our neighboring countries. I intend doing it in near future.smilies/grin.gif
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written by wisemann, August 14, 2011
i think torpedo is a poor, short, obese, unemployed, uneducated, insecure, aggressive no. amer. mongrel (maybe part cherokee, part anglotrash & part texas bull), something brasilian women dont go for. now if he was a pure texas bull we could bring him down here in a container to improve our poultry stock........

wonder why a country w/ such a powerful military could not prevail in korea, vietnam & now iraq, afghanistan & libya. hmmm, maybe its the dud torpedos....dumbkopf.

from the pattern of his english & the drivel he spouts, he's probably an underpaid, incompetent mossad blogger with dirty underwear & crooked teeth. i bet he spends his vacations in 'little rock' arkendsass....or whatever...just so long as its not brasil.
Brazil's future is in industrial and agricultural development.
written by jan z. volens, August 15, 2011
Brazil is in the process of processing more of its basic raw materials: Cellulose, bauxite, iron ore, soy, corn - into finished export products rather then as raw materials. And Brazil possibly will become the world's leading exporter of agricultural products. At present there is a labor shortage in Brazil - especially skilled and professional level. 191 million Brazilians need recreational space in their nation. Yes, the rich travel to Miami - but on holiday weekends 1,6 million cars stream out of Sao Paulo - to beaches and country recreational areas - for over-night trips). Increasingly other South Americans - especially Argentines visit Brazil as tourists. The tourism from North America and Europe have never been important industries in Brazil, and never will be important industries in Brazil. IMPORTANT: Ormeno Bus Line (Peruvian) has just inaugurated the first scheduled bus service from Sao Paulo to Lima/Peru, via Mato Grosso, Rondonia, Acre, border to Madre de Dios in Peru, up and through the Andes, down to the Atacama desert to Lima: 96 hours, 4 days. (Ormeno operates since 20 years the line Lima - Santiago/Chile - over the Andes and the Pampa to Buenos Aires/Argentina. Very good excellent bus and service!)
wonder why a country w/ such a powerful military could not prevail in korea, vietnam & now iraq, afghanistan & libya.
written by Double-Dot, August 15, 2011
Ah could not agree more sir! The rules of engagement that our brave servicemen operate under is an abomination.
If we would do what the military is supposed to do, kill, ya wouldn't be making that ignorant statement.
Ah agree. Take them out and stop trying to fight a politically correct sanitized war that just placates cowards that never had to fight for anything and just criticize the very people whose sacrifice allows them to luxuriate in their anti-American cowardice.

You're welcome, coward.
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written by Tripple-Dott, August 15, 2011

Ah could not agree more sir! The rules of engagement that our brave servicemen operate under is an abomination.


smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/smiley.gifsmilies/tongue.gifsmilies/kiss.gifsmilies/cry.gif

Das war ein guter, wenn auch.smilies/cool.gif
think its the u.s troops as cowards, staying in their bases in afpak scared to go out!
written by wisemann, August 15, 2011
using drones. i guess its an improvement over torpedos smilies/grin.gif 'killing' women & children smilies/angry.gif
Tripple-Dott
written by Double-Dot, August 16, 2011
Ah don't understand what you said but mah gut tells me it was supportive and something good.
After all, we re-built our German friends' country after WWII and look at us now. Goods friends and your country is thriving.

God bless America
wisemann
written by Double-Dot, August 16, 2011
think its the u.s troops as cowards, staying in their bases in afpak scared to go out!
using drones. i guess its an improvement over torpedos 'killing' women & children


Ah smell a yellow bellied cheap shot coward and that is you. Just sit back and relax in the comfort provided to you by our blood and treasure.

God bless America
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written by Tripple-Dott, August 16, 2011

but mah gut tells me it was supportive and something good.


Glad to know your gut is a linguist, mein kamraden.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
double-dot
written by wisemann, August 16, 2011
ah weil do jes taht - sit back & relaaax in cumfurrt, an please y'all keep spillin yah blood en guts en spend aoll taht treasure naw boy wil ya!smilies/grin.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif dumbkopf, the Germans hate yoo guts, doan kid yerself....

en ah prefer yellow bellies to thim fat 'uns yu boys got there hangin over yer belts...smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by wisemann, August 16, 2011
ahhl jis b sittin back en relaxin in cumfurt whyl yu bozos keep spillin more o yur blood & guts en keepin spenin all youze treasure....ahh jis luv it...slave boy....smilies/grin.gifsmilies/grin.gif
en doan kid yerself, them krauts hate you boys guts....

ahh prefers yeller bellies to them dun fat uns yu boys hav hangin over yer belts...smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Double-Dot, August 17, 2011

Multi-color stitching chiffon sleeveless shirt with purple flower fabric packet hip skirt, so you normally cheerful little woman a little more flavor.


Ah wear these dresses all the time. Y'all should do the same.

God Bless America and the Frogland.
you can spot them with their cartoon like goofy brazilian flag
written by us observer, August 18, 2011
many illegal brazilian nationals in the usa have the flag of brazil stitched on their shirts... it certainly makes it easier to spot these illegal alien parasites on the streets of miami ,pompano,connecticutt,and massachusetts... us law enforcement is tightening the noose to deport illegal aliens in the usa as more and more americans are fed up with these third world mutts sneaking into the usa or overstaying their tourist visas..
ch.c: Kind regards to all....except to Ricardo C. Amaral !
written by wisemann, August 18, 2011
Herr Doktor, You are in good form! Definitely must be the french wine at the swimming pool along with some delightful 'foreign' company.

I read somewhere that about 22% of the Swiss population is foreign born. I would like to know if these foreigners swing both ways...and boy, would I would love to get you into the sack!

Kindly enlighten me on this subject.
the north face
written by the north face, August 24, 2011
Third, and perhaps a popular (deserved?) target is the international airports in Brazil. It is really hard to find a sympathetic reason to defend Infraero, the airports owners, operators and their current conditions.
this doesn't help
written by Fletch, August 26, 2011
A story like this doesn't help. I think it shows how desperate the underprivileged and over-armed are... which will get worse before it gets better.
http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-daily/van-of-foreign-oil-workers-robbed-in-rio-daily-update/
AVOID
written by Homer Simpson, September 14, 2011
Brazil is crazy expensive now, just crazy. Why pay more to stay in a third world country with all the troubles that come with it, when for less you can visit a developed country. The Real is crazy overvalued, and consumption taxes on consumer products in Brazil are huge.

Also what is the point of making me pay $100 for a Visa, really what the hell for. This article gets it right on many points. I would not recommend Brazil as a travel destination, though I go anyway because I have a lot invested in it already. But for someone who has never been there, AVOID BRAZIL.
???
written by Miguel Martins Chaves, September 26, 2011
I DONT GET IT, ITS ALL ABOUT SAYING s**t THINGS ABOUT BRAZIL??? GO f**k URSELF!!!!!!
BRAZILLLLLLLLL ALWAYS!
Decon
written by Declan Conner, September 29, 2011
Huhhh .... so much venom directed both ways.

I live in Salvador in the North East having moved from the UK.The only difference I see here in terms of volume of crime, is that in the UK, if you give a felon the money he'll walk away... here in Salvador the odds are that they will shoot you anyway.Unfortunately internationaltourists are seen as easy pickings and could help themselves by being street wise.Goodness knows how many are going to be robbed and killed when Brazil host the world cup, however much pacifation they try to bring about in the favelas.The fevelas remind me of Mexico and the rest of Brazil reminds me of America, in that if there were no users to fuel the drugs trade, there would be no need for the bloodshed.

Brazil is a beautiful country with a majority of God fearing, hard working, hard partying and very friendly population. For tourists,I would describe looking out over Rio as the eigth wonder of the word and it should be on everyones bucket list.Then there are the various carnivals, beautiful beaches, landscapes, the music and climate, all to die for as an experience and well worth every dollar, Euro and pound spent.The culture is as amazing as it is diverse.

Take away the drugs related crime and drug dealer on drug dealer crime and the insecurity that many feel here would go away.I would argue that most Brazillians want to leave Brazil currently because of the insecurity they feel and not for economic reasons. Hell, there is more economic opportunity here than in America or Europe at the moment. Just how Brazil can overcome the security problems encountered by international tourists, I don't know. Perhaps they could take a leaf out of Tunisia's book and develop areas targeted at the international tourist like one giant ring fenced condo. The problem with that is I found the culture on display in Tunisia to be largely fake and only really found the true beauty of Tunisia once I ventured out.On the plus side, the service was of European standard and the staff trained in at least the basics of English.

I find it strange that anyone would complain about service at the airports.I have had my luggage lost by some of the best in the industry.Last winter a major airline sent my luggage on the wrong plane to Brazil and it failed to turn up at Rio. The staff there were helpful and very efficient.They found the destination of my luggage and had it redirected to Salvador and the following day it arrived at my home.
Alcohol consumption vs speed causes accidents
written by Sean, October 02, 2011
Your are WRONG. Every study says even moderate levels of alcohol impairs ones ability to drive safely. Combine that with the insanity of driver behavior even sober in Brasil and you have a REAL NEED for Lei Seca.
what is killing tourism in Brazil
written by senoritadoroda, October 19, 2011
Well written article. I wish that the government would implement and improve on tourism industry.In my country the major hindrance is insecurity.
http://www.tusijisunde.com/2011/insecurity-what-are-we-doing-about-it/
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written by Jako, January 23, 2012
My thoughts:

1) Due to the Real being so overvalued in recent times, Brazil has become horribly expensive to visit. I last visited in 2010 and have no plans to return largely because it is such an expensive destination. If the Real isn't re-valued to a sensible level, this will continue to choke off tourism in Brazil - it will only remain a smallish market for wealthy tourists - everyone else will be priced out.

2) Customer service is in the majority of instances, terrible. Would it kill some of the staff in restaurants in Zona Sul especially to make eye contact, smile and acknowledge the customer? This is a big turn off when one has experienced excellent and friendly service in other destinations.

3) Crime. It hasn't gone away. Perceptions of Brazil as crime ridden and dangerous remain outside the country and to a large extent, this is justified. I can go to many other destinations and feel safer.

Final thoughts, some friends asked about visting Brazil and I told them that they would have a better experience with friendlier people, for a lot less money in Colombia and the Domincan Republic by way of example. It's hard to reccomend Brazil the way things stand.





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