Brazilian Congress Once Again Snubs Venezuela's Chavez

Senator José Sarney The opposition in the Brazilian Congress once again delayed on Wednesday, February 4, the consideration of Venezuela's Mercosur incorporation protocol, in spite of strong appeals from the ruling coalition of the president of Brazil, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.

A member of the opposition requested more time to consider the issue thus blocking Wednesday's vote by a Mercosur special commission, which if eventually is approved will then begin the Senate process, commission and full house votes.

Once out of the Senate the bill approving the incorporation protocol will be promulgated by President Lula, a staunch supporter of Venezuela joining Mercosur. Brazilian public work contractors, exporters and businesses in general are increasingly targeting Venezuela as a very lucrative market.

The ruling coalition leader, Deputy Florisvaldo Fier, underlined before the commission the importance of Venezuela's incorporation for Mercosur. Brazil's Lower House approved the protocol last December.

"Mercosur would transform into a trade space, full of opportunities with over 250 million people and an area of 12.7 million square kilometers, becoming one of the world's leading suppliers of food, energy and manufactured goods," insisted Deputy Fier.

However this week the Brazilian Senate named new leaders for the 2009/2011 period and nominated José Sarney to preside, who as Brazilian president (1985/1990) was one of the promoters of Mercosur but is known to be a strong opponent of Hugo Chavez' Venezuela.

The ruling coalition fears Mr. Sarney from his position could stall consideration of the protocol but he has strongly denied the allegations.

"I will not delay the discussion and consideration of any project," which includes the Venezuela incorporation protocol he said on Monday when asked specifically about the issue.

The presidents of Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay signed the incorporation of Venezuela to Mercosur on July 2006, but since then only Argentina and Uruguay's legislatives have approved the initiative.

Besides Brazil, the issue is still under consideration by the Paraguayan congress.

Sarney vehemently rejected claims he was intent in further delaying approval for Venezuela's incorporation to Mercosur.

"I'm not going to accelerate or delay any issue. All documents and bills will have to comply with all Senate procedures," said Sarney when asked about a vote on Venezuela's incorporation to the South American trade block which has been delayed for months.

Jose Sarney, a former Brazilian president, elected to preside over the Senate last Monday has been repeatedly accused by the opposition of being the main impediment for Venezuela's entry into Mercosur.

Brazilian president Lula da Silva has promised his Mercosur partners that Venezuela would be formally incorporated to the group during the first quarter of this year.

Brazilian senators and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez had a serious confrontation when the charismatic populist leader accused the members of the Upper house of acting as "puppets" of the country's oligarchy and in accordance with the capital of the "evil empire" in reference to the administration of President George Bush and the US.

But in spite of the offense and Chavez tepid apologies, following Lula's intervention, the bill remained stalled in the Brazilian senate.

However Brazilian contractors and business leaders have lobbied strongly for the incorporation of Venezuela to Mercosur, although the political establishment feels a bit uneasy with Chavez radical stances in several issues.

"But one thing is Chavez with the barrel of oil at US$ 140 US and another with oil at US$ 40, said Brazilian Senate sources" quoted in Brazilian capital Brasí­lia's media.

Mercopress

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0 #19 booth of you should look into BANCO MILITARY IN HOUNDRAUSForrest Allen Brown 2009-02-08 05:40
Talking about a scam a bank started by military ,
to fund the retirment of political and military highre archie
but there rates are very small when you yhink about brasil banks
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0 #18 Astonishment is the most appropriate word I can describech.c. 2009-02-06 08:07
Pay more attention to what I say and/or pretend.
I always have proofs from reliable sources...including from Brazilian OFFICIAL SOURCES, such as
the APPARENT ECONOMIC BOOM IN BRAZILIAN AGRICULTURE...WHEN MEASURED CORRECTLY...AND NOT MEASURED AS
ROBBING HOOK DOES....TO SHOW A WRONG PERSPECTIVE OF THE REALITY :

http://www.cepea.esalq.usp.br/english/gdp/Pib_agribusiness_1994_07.xls

YOU MAY AS WELL CHECK THE OFFICIAL PER HECTARE PRODUCTIVITY IN DIFFERENT AGRI COMMODITIES
http://www.cepea.esalq.usp.br/english/gdp/Pib_agribusiness_1994_07.xls

You could then try to find out by yourself in surfing the net...to make your own comparisons with other countries.
Not real easy, but not impossible. it takes time. I did it for some commodities.
I wont provide you comparative per hectare production. Smiles
Find them by yourself ! So much fun...if you have an interest to find out the truth !

And going back to Brazilian banks....just pay attention to what I also added in my other comments above.
Smiles


;-)
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0 #17 Shameful theft by Brazilian banks - incredible interest rates!!!Augustus 2009-02-06 03:52
Astonishment is the most appropriate word I can describe the feeling invoked upon reading ch-c’ recommended Bloomberg editorial about Bradesco.
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Bradesco’s personal loans cost 85.2 percent a year compared with 39.3 percent at Banco do Brasil, rankings listed on the central bank’s Web site show. Their biggest competitor, Banco Itau Holding Financeira SA, charges 79.2 percent for the same credit. Interest on consumer loans in Brazil range from 12.95 percent at Societe Generale’s Brazil unit to 1,418 percent at Sao Paulo-based finance company Crefisa SA, the data show.
In fact, I should not have been surprised, given that I have a relative in Rio de Janeiro, whose assets are unfortunately “held hostage” by Banco Santander Brasil in a gimmick whereby she cannot remove funds from that institution which is penalizing her with out-of-this-world interest rates serving an old loan (which she should never have requested ) ...

In view of the above, ch-c regular remarks about Brazilians appear to be confirmed... They lied to her... so it appears
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0 #16 Augustusch.c. 2009-02-05 20:50
No need to be a genious.
If in November the registered employed workers were 22 millions, and unemployed 1,8 million, and in December the worst month in 10 years the lost jobs amounted to 654'000, it is very hard to trust that the unemployed stood at 1,6 million and that the
unemployment rate went DOWN from 7,2 to 6,8 % !!!!!

There are many other ON PURPOSE errors !
How can any country IN GOOD FAITH figure out the NATIONAL unemployment rate using the 6 metropolitan wealthiest regions that account for ONLY 40 % of the country population ?
Hmmmmmmm....but that is what Brazil does with their 22 millions etc etc workers and report as NATIONAL stats.
There are another 9,7 millions registered workers.....in the REST of the country ! why not included ?

On top of that, the total registered workers is therefore around 34 millions nationwide (rounded....22 mio plus 10 mio plus around 2 mio registered unemployed) Right ?

How do you explain that in a country with nearly 200 millions citizens, only 17 % of the population is REGISTERED AS WORKER ????

Hopefully you understanmd how they manipulate their unemployment rate...as it pleases Robbing Hook & el al !

Therefore my formula....NEVER EVER TRUST A BRAZILIAN...REMAINS !

:D ;-)

Ohhhh funny...NO ONE...NO ONE....made a comment after having probably read THE ARTICLE I STATED EARLIER ABOVE :
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aycNcCD5Onj8&refer=latin_america

TOO SHAMEFUL....TO TALK OR MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT IT ?????
Yessssss really shameful... the sad truth.

Lets face it, Chavez the Clown and Robbing Hook have a lot in common :
BOTH continually HIDE AND LIE PERMANENTLY !
Typical of South America Populism in general.

The Bimbo next door with her Pimp pretend that in 2007 and 2008 their country inflation rate was at 8 % annually, while
as per everyvbody else it is well over 20 % annually !

Ohhhhhh and just for the fun......in 2008 Venezuela had a targeted inflation of 19,7 %.
Not that small. Right ? It should had been easy to stay on that target.
Wellll Chavez could not even stay on target. Inflation stood at 32 %
And if you recall, Chavez in January 2008 COPIED the Brazilian tricks made 4 times in the last 70 years.
HE TOO....TOOK OFF 3 ZEROES OUT OF HIS CURRENCY !!!!!!

Same blood, same mentality...no doubt !


:D ;-) :D ;-) :D ;-) :D ;-) :D ;-)
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0 #15 Conceding Limitations & Ineptitude - Reflecting upon Valor & Honor - Questioning Arbitrary Judgment with Deception...Augustus 2009-02-05 19:19
At this point, it is imperative that it be clearly clarified that:
-I have never claimed and would not ever have presumed to be a genius...
-If I recall correctly, this particular “label of genius” was designed and ascribed by you in various references towards my humble self… often with the sole purpose of ridiculing my character

Furthermore, I must also state that somehow I suspected you were setting a trap in order to publicly humiliate me... Yet, I did not hesitate when facing a looming danger setup in my pathway, and notwithstanding the concealed bouts of laughter to denigrate my wits, I willingly and took the bait, with the same Courage & Valor one would expected of a true Gentleman of the Blood… The very same valiant behavior, incidentally, which I hope the Brazilian Armed Forces will (hopefully) soon demonstrate in order to save the nation… once again....

As for your claimed Brazilian inescapable proclivity to lie, while I am certain that such flaw exists within various individual and perhaps even within the national character, I could scarcely expect it be considered uniquely inherent to the inhabitants of the central-eastern 3/5 of the South American Continent; at any rate, I humbly contend whether sly acts, deliberately used with the purpose of deception – in pursuit of hidden agendas - might not perhaps be equated to similar negative qualifications… Just a thought for further reflection…

I rest my case… I suppose “you win”…
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0 #14 Ch.C João da Silva 2009-02-05 14:51
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True...I admit...you warned maths were not your forte !
Still you insist on harassing Lord Augustus with your mind boggling numbers ;-)

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But this...I knew, just as you know my English is far from perfect !
This is too much for me to swallow.Now you are behaving like an old maid who knows that she is very good in whatsoever things she does,but apologizes for not being 100% perfect. :D

Every single blogger in this site knows that you are not known for your modesty and why pretend that you are? ;-)

Regardless, you have great communication skill in English, French, Portuguese, German, Greek, Italian ,etc; Good old Pythagoras would have been proud of ya, if he was still alive. ;-)
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0 #13 Furthermore to Lord Augustus mathch.c. 2009-02-05 13:42
The difference being a DROP of 400,000 UNEMPLOYED

sorry.....sorry...but from 1,8 million to 1,6 million the result is a 200'000 DROP....not 400'000 as you pretend !

You see....NEVER EVER TRUST A BRAZILIAN......IS EVEN TRUE...WITH YOURSELF ! LAUGHSSSSSSSSS


As I said many times, I know that in Brazil 2 plus 2 never equals 4.
Thus an educated Brazilian cant obviously figure out correctly 1,8 million MINUS 1,6 million.
True...I admit...you warned maths were not your forte !
But this...I knew, just as you know my English is far from perfect !

;-)
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0 #12 I did not reach 654'000 LOST JOBS ch.c. 2009-02-05 13:23
No sorry Lord Augustus---YOU ARE WRONG

If there are 22 millions employed registered WORKERS WITH A JOB, and 1,8 millions registered WORKERS UNEMPLOYED,
you do the maths out of 23,8 millions namely 1,8 mio out of 23.8 mio registered workers - employed or unemployed - to figure out the percentage of...UNEMPLOYMENT!

Smiles :cry: :P

As to the the 654'000 number of lost jobs in December :
Sorry...but this is the Brazilian government own numbers...ANNOUNCED AND PUBLISHED....AS BEING THE
WORST MONTH SINCE EARLY 1999..... AND ANNOUCED A FEW DAYS BEFORE DECEMBER....UNEMPLOYMENT RATE !
THEN HOW CAN THEY CAME OUT with ONLY 1,6 million registered workers UNEMPLOYED...in December...from 1,8 million in November...if they lost 654'000 registered jobs ??????
And....and....and....still with the same number of employed workers at 22 millions...as per their own words !

Still waiting the answer from Lord Augustus, and the Brazilian Dr Sherlock da Silva !

Prove me that you are not a pair of dumb wits......as Joao pretended that is what I think !
(As you know, Ch.c thinks that we both are a pair of dumb wits)

Waiting ...... with :D ;-) :D ;-) :D ;-)
;-)
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0 #11 Ch.C João da Silva 2009-02-05 12:05
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Sherlock Holmes would have said.....this is the EVIDENCE Dr Watson !!!!!!
You never read Sherlock Holmes and still try to outwit Lord Augustus and a "commoner" like my excellent self. The famous quote is "Elementary , my dear Watson". Sherlock Holmes never had the habit of addressing Watson as "Dr.Watson".

Lord Augustus: You better check it out with the books in your library on this fellow Sherlock Holmes and confirm what I said. As you know, Ch.c thinks that we both are a pair of dumb wits. :D ;-) :sad: 8) :cry:
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0 #10 CH-C - Something is fishy, but.... I did not reach 654'000 LOST JOBS Augustus 2009-02-05 10:24
IN A PREVIOUS MESSAGE YOU STATED:
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ON MY....NEVER EVER TRUST A BRAZILIAN...that looks to irritate you, YOU as a well educated person, could you tell me/us
how Brazil reduced their December 2008 unemployment rate from 7,2 to 6,8 %....knowing that 654'000 jobs were LOST
in December ???????

November numbers were 22 millions registered workers WITH JOBS, 1,8 million registered workers UNEMPLOYED.
December numbers were 22 millions workers, 1,6 million unemployed.
WERE DO YOU SEE THE 654'000 LOST JOBS ??????

Well, bearing in my artithmetics were never my forte'...
1,8 million UNEMPLOYED vis-a-vis 22 million workers = 8.19% ==> thus, according to figures there were 8.19% Unemployed in NOV
1,6 million UNEMPLOYED vis-a-vis 22 million workers = 7.28% ==> thus, accoding to figures, there were 7.28% unemployed in DEC
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The difference being a DROP of 400,000 UNEMPLOYED workers between NOV & DEC within an overall workforce of 22 million workers...

HUMMMMMM I suppose CH-C IS THEN REFERRING TO A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN A DECLARED LOSS OF 654,000 JOBS vis-a-vis an opposite conclusion where the NUMBER OF UNEMPLOYED WORKERS WAS ACTUALLY REDUCED BY 400,000 INDIVIDUALS???!!!!!
people. In addition there appears to be a discrepancy between 8.19% vs 7.28% AND THEIR DECLARED REDUCTION "from 7,2 to 6,8 %."

I hope I got this right, but at ANY RATE, there APPEARS TO BE A DISCREPANCY HERE...
There is NO possible explanation OTHER THAN a LOUSY "unchecked" manipulation of "official governmental statistical Data" which I hope is JUST an example of the EXTRA CORRUPT LABOR ADMIN as opposed to an OVERALL SYMPTOM of... AS CH-C INDICATES... A NATURAL PROCLIVITY TO LIE AT BRAZILIAN GOVERNMENTAL & BUSINESS CIRCLES!!!!! :sad:

(NOW MY HEAD IS SPEENING _ LOL)
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