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It's Time Brazil Stops Blaming the Past for Its Corruption Epidemic PDF Print E-mail
2013 - January 2013
Written by José Ricardo   
Monday, 28 January 2013 04:17

Joaquim Barbosa Brazil is highly known for its diverse and dynamic culture. This population is the product of a long-going "melting pot" that has combined ethnicities from all over the globe. This mixing of cultures resulted in a nation unlike any other. Here, they dance the majestic samba, they play beautiful soccer, and finally, the country's location in the tropics is one of pure privilege.

But another matter that sets Brazil apart from many other countries is the continuing practice of political corruption.

Brazil has been practicing the dark art of corruption for a long time. Unfortunately, it is not only the political and economic arenas that become most affected, but the ideology of the citizens themselves. Brazilians have grown accustomed to a broken political system that insists on remaining in place. Efforts to change the way politics have been conducted rose once before in the 90's, but soon died, leading to a continued path of corruption.

Now, a call for cleaner politics is starting to reemerge once again, but it is hard to tell if this time it will succeed. Today, the topic of corruption is a permanent section in national magazines such as Veja and Isto É. People go on with their lives reading about political scandals on their way to work. For years, daily TV news has reported nothing but corruption and violence.

The real question now asks who is really to blame for the modern corruption. We cannot tell if it is the culture that unknowingly allows continuing dishonesty or if it is the politicians the ones who cannot seem to "play nice" and help clean up the mess.

Sadly enough, Brazilian culture has been exposed to the burden of corruption since its early years. It is safe to state that the spree of corruption started in 1808 when the royal Portuguese family fled to Brazil in an effort to escape from Napoleon Bonaparte. This period was marked by a number of significant changes, which later on would result in the inevitable independence of Brazil, but a corrupt court made itself known in the colony.

Dom João VI and his royal crew constantly bribed their way around and seemed to enjoy naming incompetent people to vital positions in the government. Interesting enough, in 1808 a bank was created, and critics would argue this bank was introduced to support the fraudulent ongoing financial practices of the royal court. The bank was given the name of Banco do Brasil.

Two centuries later, Brazil still remains marked by corruption and leaves many countries behind in the "competition" of which country is most corrupt. Transparency International, an organization created to measure global corruption in the world, ranks countries on their corruption levels. In the latest 2012 research, Brazil tied with Macedonia and South Africa. On a scale of 0 – 100, where 0 means that a country is perceived as highly corrupt and 100 means that a country is perceived as very clean, Brazil scored 43.

Compared to 2011, this score showed great improvement on Brazil's part. Based on the overall ranking positions of last year, the country jumped from the 73rd to the present 64th position, which is positive, remembering that the "1st" placement is for the cleanest country. On the opposite end of the rankings, the top scores are North Korea and Somalia assuming the 174th position and taking the lead of most untrustworthy.[1]

In the United States, a country that holds the 19th position, corruption also plays its role, but it appears to be much more controlled. The US has 5% of the entire population in the globe and almost 25% of the inmates in the world. This country sentences an average of 1.000 people every year on charges of corruption, whereas Chicago leads the charts.[2] These numbers obviously are not pretty, but are certainly better than Brazil.

Recent history shows that Brazil has successfully fought corruption once before. In the early 1990's, former president Fernando Collor was the target of an anti-corruption movement called "caras-pintadas." This group was made up of mostly young adults who peacefully protested on the streets by painting their faces with the colors of the national flag and holding signs demanding a presidential impeachment.

Fernando Collor came to the presidency in 1989 as a symbol of hope and democracy. That election was of extreme importance because it was the first time the people were directly electing a president, excluding the so called "elections" of 1960, since the military dictatorship.

Collor was a charismatic man who ran on promises of fighting hyperinflation and ending corruption. In the first days of his new administration, Collor announced a plan that was supposed to finally contain hyperinflation. This initial action turned out to be the most radical economic intervention in the history of Brazil and resulted in the biggest recession the country has ever seen.

The main factor of the plan involved freezing savings accounts beyond the value of  50,000 cruzados novos (today, equivalent to US$ 3,100) in an effort to reduce money circulation and contain a deeper devaluation of the currency. This economic theory of simple currency supply and demand made sense, but neither the country nor the Collor administration were prepared for such an important move.

Such an audacious approach only ended up aggravating the situation to the worst possible scenario. Sadly enough, there were instances of many people who committed suicide because they suddenly went broke and could not fulfill their debts. Once bank accounts were set back to normal 18 months later, inflation had already eaten away the value of the funds and caused even greater frustration among the population.

Following other failed attempts to control hyperinflation, Collor found himself as the center of serious corruption allegations. Most of these accusations came from his brother, Pedro Collor, who accused Fernando Collor of supporting a corruption scheme within the presidential administration.

In an effort to reverse the situation and discredit the Senate, which had already launched an impeachment process, Collor called on the people to take to the streets and support the government by wearing pieces of clothing with the colors of the flag. The result was young people on the streets, dressed in black, and showing their faces painted in protest against the corruption of the Collor administration.

In 1992, Fernando Collor de Mello resigned before the conclusion of his impeachment trial. The Senate still continued the trial and found Collor guilty on the charges of corruption and sentenced him to disqualification to hold a public office for eight years. Criminal charges were later not sustained due to lack of evidence, but the separate sentence of disqualification was upheld and the people of Brazil could celebrate their most significant democratic action in the recent history of the country.

In the early years of its young democracy, the Brazilian people held firm to their right of social equality and made use of it to the fullest. As we know, it is not common to see a presidential coup or a call for presidential impeachment in today's age, although it does happen once in a while. Brazil, in fact, surprised the entire world by, without any act of violence, removing a corrupt president from office.

And this all happened in a country with only five years of uninterrupted democracy. At that very moment, Brazil was an example to the rest of the world and a truly nightmare for any practitioners of corruption. Today, more than 20 years later, we look back and ought to recognize that not enough was done to tackle corruption. The momentum of 20 years ago was simply not sufficient to bring us to an age where a cleaner government could be sustained.

Even though the caras-pintadas made a strong statement about intolerance of corruption, the country failed to hold on to that ideology and the momentum faded away. Unfortunately, this was a rare opportunity to bring down corruption in Brazil, but the country did not recognize the importance of developing that way of acting and the necessary efforts to push forward a cleaner post-Collor political system.

At that moment, the country needed greater political transparency and proper punishment of wrongdoers. These two remedies are basic tools for the success of any anti-corruption campaign. But even today, nations around the world try to limit such basic measures that would help sustain a cleaner political atmosphere.

Now, there finally appears to be a quiet anti-corruption revival in Brazil. From the caras-pintadas of the 90's, the new symbol now is a single black man, Joaquim Barbosa, who has helped fight the mensalão scandal. The mensalão is one of the most scandalous corruption cases in Brazil, in which congressmen were bribed on a monthly basis in order to vote in favor of particular projects during Lula's administration.

Joaquim Benedito Barbosa Gomes, 58 years old, came from a poor family in Minas Gerais and is the son of a former bricklayer. He put his way through law school by working as a janitor in the Federal Supreme Tribunal in Brasília, the country's capital. Since November 2012, Barbosa has sat as the President of the Federal Supreme Tribunal, a position he gained by being elected after working as a Minister of the same Tribunal for ten years.

Barbosa caught the attention of many Brazilians by attacking the mensalão in the Tribunal as if he was speaking on behalf of everyday people. While other ministers were soft and appeared to want to alleviate the penalties on some of the accused during trial, Barbosa would stand up behind his chair while speaking of the seriousness of this case.

Barbosa preached the application of exemplary punishment and the importance of concluding the case as the law requires. He spoke with assertion and constantly argued with colleagues who seemed to want to lighten the punishments. Barbosa made clear that this case is highly significant to the molding of the future of the country and its efforts to insure justice, regardless of how influential the accused might have been in the political sphere.

Seven years into the mensalão's scandal, by the end of 2012, the Federal Supreme Tribunal had tried 37 public figures, of whom 25 were found guilty and the remaining 12 were acquitted of all charges. Brazilians went off celebrating their holidays with a sense of higher hopes in the blinded eyes of justice. Maybe the mensalão was the step needed to force the system to challenge corruption in Brazil once again.

The initial impulse was given by the actual sentencing of corrupt politicians; this is generally a significant move by the courts and one rarely seen in Brazil. Politicians now think twice before acting unethically and people are starting to build trust towards the courts, if they continue to pursue corrupt politicians. Although the push has been given by the courts, based on history, it is impossible to know if this will be enough to bring clearer skies over the political system. Will the momentum fade away once again?

Brazilians are used to seeing corruption cases in the news for years now; impunity for white collar crimes has always been strong. Since Collor was called up on corruption charges, the few isolated cases brought against corrupt politicians in recent years only seemed to have momentary impact in the media and in people's lives.

Brazilians are growing more like those in the highly developed world. We are improving our forgetful tendencies and placing the past into the past. It is not lucrative to keep printing the same news over and over. Readers demand to be updated in a daily basis, and that is when corruption scandals get lost into the bundle of old news.

The mensalão might turn out to be a case of its own. It might actually give the necessary push to generate an awareness to fight political impunity. This is a case that shocked the entire country and, finally after seven years, the Federal Tribunal was able to put it on the table and deal with it. For seven years, Brazilians believed that justice simply would not be meted to influential political figures.

This only reassured the people that they lived in a corrupt country – they had been used to thinking: "So what?" Now the mensalão case haunts not only those caught up in it, but also the one person who was in charge when it took place, but claimed to know nothing about it: Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, the president at the time of the mensalão.

Lula was a great president during two consecutive terms. He continued the successful economic policies of his predecessor, Fernando Henrique Cardoso, and implemented his own policies that helped in the development of the country. At the end of his term, Lula was able to help elect his hand-picked successor, Dilma Rousseff, the first woman president of Brazil, and he always maintained a high approval rating both during and after his term.

Lula became a symbol for the Brazilian people – now, imagine if this great figure is found guilty of corruption in the mensalão scandal and then sentenced to jail? The possibility exists.

So far, Lula has insisted that he did not know of the mensalão's activities while they took place. The mensalão happened during his administration and, as mentioned above, had the intent to benefit projects introduced by the PT (Lula's political party called Partido dos Trabalhadores). Once this corruption scheme was discovered, Lula consistently denied having any knowledge of it.

Normally, the media would have been expected to insist on Lula's involvement and try to find out what actually happened. In this particular case, a few factors played in Lula's favor. One is that he is an inspirational figure and destroying the image of such an icon might be devastating to the nation's spirit.

Lula is a man who came from severe poverty and rose to be one of the greatest presidents Brazil has ever seen. If a man like this happens to be ensnared by corruption, then ordinary working people have little to hope for as they fight to win over every single day.

During trial testimonies, a few accusations arose that Lula might have known about the mensalão. Only then, the Federal Tribunal, led by Barbosa, decided to officially investigate the possible involvement of Lula. We do not know how long this might take nor where it will lead.

If Lula is found guilty of some wrongdoing, this would damage the PT dramatically and Dilma's reputation would be affected as well. If Lula is not found guilty, then the nation exhales alleviated and the media might refocus on making sure that those convicted of the mensalão are actually punished.

The reality is that Brazil needs to grow up. It is not that Brazil is a victim of its own people who have relied on political malpractice for hundreds of years. It is not Dom João VI and his friends who deviated our rooted principles. It is not the persistent dictatorship that damaged our political system.

It is also not Fernando Collor who, temporarily, obliterated hopes of an honest democracy. And finally, it is not because of the mensalão that we ought to accept a political system managed by immoral practices.

The solution for this disorder is for Brazilians to look into their own culture and recognize that, in most cases, it is we who allow corruption to persist. It is we who grow used to and accept the routine of politics. It is we who read the news in disbelief, but then flip the page. It is we who accept a corrupt political system.

[1] Corruption Perception Index 2012, Transparency International.

[2] Anti-Corruption Report # 5, University of Illinois.

José Ricardo lives in Connecticut and is originally from Governador Valadares, in Minas Gerais state, Brazil. Ricardo has a degree in International Business and is currently finishing his MBA in Finance from the University of Bridgeport. To read the full article on Brazilian corruption and see other additional work, go to issuu.com/joseaguilar113 - Twitter @_zerri

 



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written by João da Silva, January 29, 2013

It's Time Brazil Stops Blaming the Past for Its Corruption Epidemic


A great title given by the publishers to a great article written by José Ricardo. My compliments to the author for briefing readers, the history of Brasil after the hated "Milicos" gave up the power in 1985.

I loved José's narration of Collor's Presidency. Probably Zé's parents also suffered from the "Plano Collor".smilies/angry.gif

BTW, there are certain points in the article that are to be debated and I shall address them later.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
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written by adrianerik, January 30, 2013
I look forward to your comments. As a part of most MBA programs is a course in "Changing Corporate Culture". Depending upon the school, it can be a very intensive course that involves taking apart (I wanted to say "de-construct") the behavior, expectations, acceptances of a company and replacing them with another corporate culture. It's not an easy thing and can sometimes involve ruthless decisions (firings, reassignments, etc).

Now the "corporate culture" is an entire country. If this was a theocracy, or a fascism or a communist state, the culture change could be implemented very quickly. (Change! or there will be one hanging per day). But as President Obama said in his second inauguration speech "Democracy can be noisy and messy". Democracy can only function with the "rule of law". And the will to enforce the laws. Obviously, there will always be people tempted to "break the law" and who break it. The soul of a country has to be the outrage that the sacred "law was broken", that the democratic trust was violated and penalties must be applied. For example, in "racist" America, after the 9-11 attacks, there were four public examples of Arabs (or middle east looking people) being booted off planes, denied service in restaurants, etc. The character of America was displayed in the fact that, in all of those 4 public cases, those discriminated against were awarded millions of dollars when they took their offense to "the Law" that governs the United States. Therefore, those Americans disposed to discriminate against Arabs knew that a terrible penalty existed, in turn, helping to corral their behavior.

In Salvador, I am disheartened by the belief in the people that the will to enforce the laws do not exist. "An ungoverned country". "An ungoverned City". I hear that often. Perhaps symbols like Barbosa can ignite a new wave of belief. But Brazilians might have to confront the same sense of personal responsibility that the South Africans faced. When the ANC government began to enforce laws, the first people to be affected were the citizens in the townships who were told that you have to pay for those electric lines and water pipes that are hooked up illegally to your house!

I have a neighbor who shouted "Adrian, you have to teach me how to drive." I asked "Okay, are you trying to get your driver's license?" He laughed and held up a driver's license. "No! I already have a license. 500 reais. Anybody can get one. Now, I need to learn how to drive."

Changing a culture....
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written by João da Silva, January 30, 2013

I look forward to your comments.


I guess you addressed this to me, Dr.McCray.smilies/smiley.gif

But..but...but... your comments are absolutely musical to my ears, especially the one about changing "corporate culture" which is an an entire country. I didn't know there is a course in the MBA programs on "Changing Corporate Culture".

You are right. The same thing applies to a country.Brasil needs to break the culture of "jeitinho" and hold our elected and selected officials accountable for their needs and misdeeds.In fact in another thread I had commented about it.Unfortunately we react to the events and not act. The example is the Disco fire in Sta.Maria and I hear that the "authorities" are working overtime to find out who was responsible for the tragedy.That city is an university and supposed to produce bright graduates in several fields of Engineering. I would imagine that some of their ex-students are working in the prefeitura and know the building codes (that are specific about emergency exits) and I wonder why they failed to implement what they learned.smilies/sad.gif

Coming back to the article: Contrary to what we would like believe (and insist), Brasil does not have a homogenous culture.There is a vast difference between the North and South and the only thing that unites us is the language. The caudilhismo & paternalism politics prevails more in the N/N.E. than in the South and the result is the continuing grip of aging politicians like Renan, Sarney, Collor, etc; in that region and their influence in the National politics. It is almost next to impossible to change their Corporate Culture"

Lets face it. Caras-Pintadas were the children of upper middle class & rich folks who got pissed off because Collor was not sharing his loot with them (he was supposed to have centralized corruption) and not because their savings bank a/c were frozen. Fine, he quit before he was forced out by the congress. But...but...but.. he has made a come back, elected democratically and quite powerful in the national politics, just like Renan Calheiro.

After that came FHC who sold the national assets for a song and is now an elderly "Statesman" like Lula both of whom still have big say in the "Old Corporate Culture".smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

You are right about changing the "culture" and I am glad commented in the article written by José Ricardo, who is doing the "real" MBA and I hope he did the course you wrote about.

I recall that before the elections in 2010, I had mentioned that it is more important for the voters in each state to look at the candidates that stand for the Governor´s job. At that time you were recommending to study more about Dilma. I was pleasantly surprised at the outcome of the elections on National level and of that in my state and the neighboring PR. In some way, the lady and the governors of the two states are trying hard to change the "culture".

The fact that Dilma is not interfering in the Judicial system is a positive point for her.Sure,she is not an Nth generation Brasilan like PBO is not an Nth generation Yank. So what? Like a friend of mine who is over 80 said "We need to bring in qualified folks from other tribes to change our way of thinking".smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

BTW, charge your friend who bought his driving license for 500 Reais, $50/hour to teach him how to "drive".smilies/wink.gif

Cheers &take care
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written by Jacko, January 31, 2013
It's all Portugal's fault from 500 years ago.
Let's keep stealing and blame Portugal, our people are dumb, they believe anything we tell them.
If they don't we'll blame the Americans, FIFA or whoever comes to mind.
Stealing is what we do best.
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written by asp, February 01, 2013
what the f**k, joao, they did it again !! its really funny isnt it? who in prison got beat up this time?........no one.....

i told you about this...f**king organised crime has gotten so big on the steroids of coke and arms deals with people like the farc and who ever in bolivia and paraquai is flooding the market with cocaine that can be turned into crack....

they are just terrorising us and society and the police , trying to show us that they are in control....and they can f**k with society and the police anytime they want....they can gum up the system as good as any bus strike....yeah, the mother f**kers burned another bus on my line , and i have to take the bus, i have no car...3 other buses also and home bombs and some shots at some police stations

oh boy, the f**king media thought they had it all figured out " they beat up some prisoners and that is why it happened...we will coddle them and it will be all ok..."....ha ha f**king haha..these son of a bithces are just trying to f**k with us at will

legalise marijuana , though, wasting any f**king time on that is riduculous...its f**king coke and crack cocaine and ilegal arms that is decimating our society....

oh, but, deixa eles...maybe they wont do it again....lets all hide our heads in the sand
only when there is no place to hide
written by Simpleton, February 02, 2013
Although it took me several days to manage to get through it, loved the article, well written.

I'd expand on the title of my post but just can't at the moment, I'm just not myself right now. The F'ing gripe didn't take my life but now after almost a year's respite I've gotten another threat from the ex #2. Going to hide my head in the sand is an iffy proposition. I might just expire naturally as I am really beat down physically or she'll ambush me on my way heading to the beach from ex #1's house and beat me with a stick.
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written by asp, February 02, 2013
ok, joao, i saw what they did to the prisoners in another city, but what has that got to do with where we live?

why are they attacking the mode of transport their own family members and dolts like me with out a car have to take?

its buls**t,f**k organised crime
asp
written by João da Silva, February 04, 2013

why are they attacking the mode of transport their own family members and dolts like me with out a car have to take?


My solidarity with people like you, ASP. Though I have a car, I too take public transport (amarelinhos) to avoid the parking problems or when I just don't feel like confronting the mad traffic.A philosophy professor at the local university said "A city's wealth is not evaluated by the number of cars circulating , but by the number of people who can afford to buy cars, but prefer to ride the public transport system". I agree with him and I bet you do too!

Our public system was designed years ago to enable poor and well to do people as well as the old folks to use it to avoid the problems I listed above. But to see that system being targeted by the "organized crime" is highly deplorable. What is more amazing is the eerie feeling one gets that a war has been declared on the entire state.smilies/angry.gif

However, I am confident that our state government will bring
the situation under control in the state and the newly elected mayor and his vice of our city will do likewise here.

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written by asp, February 05, 2013
"But to see that system being targeted by the "organized crime" is highly deplorable. What is more amazing is the eerie feeling one gets that a war has been declared on the entire state."

i agree totaly, joao...prison conditions are frightening ...its not like there isnt something to protest about

my son brought to my attention ,to an article sent to him on facebook from veja or something, from a high up position in organised crime in sao paulo, where that is exactly what he sais is happening, "a declaration of war against the state, and the people dont even know it.."...im trying to track it down so i can really digest it

because ,i see it as organised crimes method of telling us they really run it and can cause this kind of chaos anytime they want to....

they said those prisoners in the city a couple of hours away, who were lined up like that, and intimidated,was because a guard was attacked and injured in the leg...

this is a cat and mouse game...and we citizens are just pawns in the middle...man, ive had to take extra measures to get my family from downtown because of the buses hit on our line and the nebulous bus paralysaion that they talk about at certain hours...my family does sometimes get the green buses lata at nigh, the amarelhos stop after 7 or 8 at night for our line....
asp
written by João da Silva, February 05, 2013

my son brought to my attention ,to an article sent to him on facebook from veja or something, from a high up position in organised crime in sao paulo, where that is exactly what he sais is happening, "a declaration of war against the state, and the people dont even know it.."...im trying to track it down so i can really digest it


Your son is right ASP and I am happy he is bilingual and reads all the news and connects the dots. I sincerely hope that your family is on the alert on what's happening in the city while taking the buses at night (listen to the radio, read the newspapers, etcsmilies/wink.gif. I really don't trust the TV, that much.

This evening I was having a friendly chat with the Engineer-in-Charge who has successfully fixed our "leaky roof" problems about the current situation. Suddenly there was a fire over the hills and I said "there goes another bus in flames". Within a couple of minutes, there were fire engines and choppers. He said I was right and recommended "Zero Tolerance" policy, NOT of your friend Guiliani, but...but...but... of one of our ex-governors.

We both agreed that it is a good thing that there is no parade during the Carnival, but just the street carnival like the good ole days. As a matter of fact, we do not want any publicity for our city and really don't give a s**t about "Turismo".

We would very much appreciate if the prisoners in that state "facility" are transferred to Federal ones in other states.smilies/angry.gif

You take care and stay safe
asp
written by João da Silva, February 06, 2013

Talking about "Veja", here is a gem for ya:

http://veja.abril.com.br/blog/...asileiras/

I wonder what Doc.McC has to say about this.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

BTW, the war on our state seems to continue unabated. smilies/sad.gif
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written by asp, February 07, 2013
joao, thanks for the concern and that link...isnt that something?

dirceu went to jail for his che revolution back then and he is going to jail now for his slimey corruption now, the real truth is, it was always about trying to get power...and a bolivian revolution

oh, yeah, he is going to push the bolivarian revolution, that is his true color

im not surprised at all about the venezuelan ambassador...

it must be prestes's anniversary or something, they show his auto bio on channal 4 , and today , che...would you just look how much the commies were trying to run their bulls**t in brazil in the 30's? its just the same story as the 60's, with some variations on a theme...

and several shows about more people involved in the "armed struggle against the dictatorship" in brazil...all saying they wanted marxism, all making like it was just hunky dory...f**k, 30 million had died in china from starvation just before that and more than 20 million in their red revolution....oh year, what a great alternative..its the fourth show ive seen with exactly the same theme and differant people

and, having to see che's speech just is as thrillihng as watching someone vomit...ranting about how the colonial powers were executing people !!! this mother f**ker executed more people than anyone...how the colonial powers only wanted to destroy people...as though his ideaology didnt destroy more than 100 million people ...i mean , mther f**kers just vomit that s**t today like its the truth...people are , they really really are , just picking up the soviet union propaganda pages with fidel's and che's snot all over it....that is f**king sick

f**k it, im the new right

im seriously in favor of obama's drone plan...go in and wipe those son of a bitches out in the talaban

i dont care if its american citizens, if they joined al quaeda, wipe those mother f**kers out...did you see what al quaeda did in mali? wipe those mother f**kers out

i hate hugo chavez and his hypocracy...f**king sean penn and oliver stone can be damned

i dont think the phrase "sub sahara africa " is racist, i mean the new left has a problem with it, even though you can find a huge number of black afrian scholors who use the phrase liberaly in a number of subjects , in the most positive of ways...but, the new left has made new lists of words that are now racist, like "indian"..its got to be

"aboriginal native americans"...?? what the f**k, "aboriginal " sounds like australia, "navtives " sounds like "the natives are restless" ...man, f**k that s**t...im the new right
asp
written by João da Silva, February 07, 2013

im the new right


I still remain right on dead center.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

But...but...but.. thanks for the colorful comments, it was quite hilarious, but..but...but... thought provoking.smilies/grin.gif

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written by asp, February 08, 2013
http://noticias.terra.com.br/m...aRCRD.html

http://natgeotv.com.au/tv/inside-farc-hostage-rescue/

can you beleive that farc said the conditions in colombias prison were worse than their dragging 700 hundred prisoners around in the slimey jungle ?

my god , is the world going f**king insane ? its like moan chumpski saying that china had better health care than the usa in the 60's when 30 million are dying of starvations from their bungled marxist volta no campo beaurocratic f**k ups

god the bulls**t is think with these mother f**kers...and i had to watch a che speech full of the same bulls**t....i guess some people like the taste of bulls**t
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written by asp, February 08, 2013
http://natgeotv.com.au/tv/insi...ge-rescue/

here is the linc for our four other readers and the chinese higher ups listening in.....
asp
written by João da Silva, February 08, 2013

To lighten up your mood:smilies/wink.gif

I always wanted to see the recent movie about your fella Illinoisan and trying to do so for the couple of weeks. Finally today, in spite of the rains, I drove to the shopping mall for the "Elites" and got to see the movie. I didn't know that the main actor is a Brit until my better half told me. It was nice to see Tommy Lee Jones again. The ticket fee was quite exorbitant by our standards, but so what? A great movie.

After the movie, the ordeal started-to get out of the mall! Too many "Hermanos" in their shiny big cars wanted to get out in a caravan. I got quite mad (which is not my nature) and just bulldozed my way and outflanked and outwitted the mfs.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

The moral of the story: We don't give a s**t about ill behaved "Hermanos" and they are not welcome at all.

BTW, did you know that the country of our "Hermanos" is facing problems on the "supply side"? Well, what you expect when their Prez is more interested in vising her ailing ally who is currently in Havana, than addressing the key problems in her own country?smilies/sad.gif
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written by asp, February 09, 2013
hahaha joao, i hear you !!bulldoze right past them ...that is what i have to do on the beach,when they dump busloads all on our pristine beach...and then an army of clothes sellers and carts of smelly cooked meats comes out to make it worse....

i dont like tango, yet tango gets more play in our city than passistas dancing samba...f**k, they canceled it this year, joao , boo hoo...every year at rainha de carnial, they start showing contestents during the week and we get to see them, not this year, and, the winners were all white, what a white wash, but, by gosh , most of the gang bangers who they arrested because of our bus burnings were white also, like it was a globo novela....which only points a bigger finger than ever at organised crime and not poverty and racism , as the real culprit for these bizarre insance attacks....the PGC , indeed...organised crime thugs..on steroids from the crack cocains and arms sales flooding into the country...you remember the usa drug thing got really violent when the colombians entered in and started assasinating families in their cars with pictures of dead kids on the highways...but, the farc had nothing to do with the usa drug crack cocaine violence...down here in brazil...differan story

id like to see lincoln, when it comes out on dvd
asp
written by João da Silva, February 09, 2013

i dont like tango, yet tango gets more play in our city than passistas dancing samba.


Here we differ.smilies/sad.gif I like Tango, not the ones the "Hermanos" try to promote on the beaches during the hot Summer.smilies/shocked.gif One of the many good things about Argentina. They have fine looking females too. But....but...but... most of the ones that come here are "bagulhos".smilies/sad.gifsmilies/sad.gif
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written by João da Silva, February 11, 2013


The Pope resigns (unheard of since 1465)! I think his successor is going to be an American!!

What a pity, our friends Dnbaiacu has disappeared from this blog.smilies/sad.gif
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written by asp, February 13, 2013
so i watched the special on the farc on channal 7 last night, to see if there could be a report that could actualy tell the truth

it was actualy an almost romantic depiction of three stupid mother f**kers from brazil who joined the farc

it is amazing how the media wont tell the real story...as we wallow in terror at the steroid muscle flexing of the pcg or what ever the high organised crime gang is calling themselves here, mimmicing the pcc in sao paulo...interesting to note, most arrests for these burnings are white, so, this isnt some social poverty racial dynamic...is straight up organised crime...

but, a couple of things seeped out, that add to my knowledge of the truth about this situation...which is mostly information that is between the cracks that reealy tells the story of how huge amounts of cocaine and crack and arms are being flooded into brazil now, and it is contributing to the decay of society that we live in

the notable fact that came out is that, farc is hooked up with a rougue element in the paraguay army , and this is a devastating fact , since i always knew some of the other contributors to this decay from coke and arms flooding the market is coming from paraguay...knowing there are hookups with the farc , only fortifies a huge truth that this horrible caos and terror that is decimating brazil , has serious ramifications with the farc...and the disconnect in the media with really bringing this out is startaling

very interesting how farc, with support they had with chavez, the hook up with paraguay, the bolivia connection that morales ceretainly isnt helping, the correa connection with farc encamped there before they were attacked in a cross border raid from the colombian army...they all are using brazil as their cash cow for profits from the huge river of cocaine and arms flowing in

brazil is the place they dump their product in on this country and could care less about the decimation of society with gang violence and crack addicts and lost bullets

who is the real enemy to brazil?

also interesting how the pcb was a contact for a delivery from one of the stupid kids from brazil joining farc...the political tie ins could be really scary if they broke down the whole truth behind this
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written by asp, February 13, 2013
http://colombiareports.com/col...ombia.html

you know, i noticed farc bus burnings before they started in brazil...this is even recent

you tell me?
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written by asp, February 13, 2013
https://www.google.com.br/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADFA_pt-BRBR434BR446&q=farc+bus+burnings

as a matter of fact , just go to page after page of bus burnings by farc!!! from various years in the past !!!

the huge drug gangs are hooked up with farc !!!

i mean what the f**k ....truth hurts...f**k these mother f**kers

wake up people....im a f**king college drop out and i can put these peices of the puzzle together...
asp
written by João da Silva, February 13, 2013

i can put these peices of the puzzle together...


Nor can I, ASP.smilies/sad.gif Strange things are happening all around the world and I am unable to connect the dots.smilies/shocked.gif

IMHO, the undeclared war on our state, Pope resigning, N.Koreans testing their Nuclear bomb, unknown health status of Hugh Chavez, Ariel Sharon still in coma, etc have some connections and lowly peasants like me are unable to decode the mystery.smilies/angry.gif

Maybe Rickey is right. We are on the verge of WW3.smilies/cry.gif
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written by asp, February 13, 2013
nao nao nao,joao, this isnt rocket science...just look at all those google pages with notices of farc bus burnings, various years...i remember a few years ago when the first wave of bus burnings hit sao paulo and there were notices of farc bus burnings before that and i tied it together especialy when i linked up farc with the pcc

https://www.google.com.br/webhp?sourceid=navclient&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy-ab&hl=pt-BR&tbo=d&site=webhp&source=hp&q=farc+pcc+sao+paulo&oq=farc+pcc+sao+paulo&gs_l=hp.12...656.5078.0.7828.18.13.0.0.0.0.1047.3125.3-1j1j1j1j1.5.0...0.0...1c.1.3.psy-ab.r18wXwJRutE&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&bvm=bv.42452523,d.dmg&fp=4af7f448ae32720b&biw=1016&bih=546

again, page after page....shy isnt the news talking about this?

ive linked up rio, mato grosso, bahia, the amazon as all linked with farc hookups for cocaine and arms also...

what ever, no one gives a f**k to really deal with the reality of this

our local authorities have turned down the help of the national army...they dont give a f**k about the citizens, they want to play cat and mouse over the next months to deal with it and leave us out in the cold and the next bus paralysation...they dont want to admit they cant handle this...so much bs

asp
written by João da Silva, February 13, 2013

our local authorities have turned down the help of the national army...they dont give a f**k about the citizens, they want to play cat and mouse over the next months to deal with it and leave us out in the cold and the next bus paralysation...they dont want to admit they cant handle this...so much bs


I'm soo sorry to disagree from yr veiled contention that our "local authorities" are a bunch of "Bundões".smilies/sad.gif

Our local authorities are quite aware that this war has been launched by the "outsiders" and they will respond with enough fire power, without the help of the "National force".

Ah defend their stance as we don't want any bloody tourists or "external investors" that are soo desperate and anxious to bring some sort of "civilization" to our "backward" and "backwater" state.smilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gif

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written by asp, February 14, 2013
ah ,ok, joao...ill just get ready for the bus paralysis that will happen over and over as our local authorities respond with enough fire power and cat and mouse tactics over the next months...

and no one will really look at the whole picture of what it is about...

and the local news will give us these patronising answers "oh it was because of abuse of prisoners, and now everything will be all right ..." i guess for that one incident in that one prison a few hours away, the whole state is paying ...i mean, the nerve of our authorities to put in disciplinary action because a guard got attacked...

oh well, i guess not knowing what is happening each day with public transportation helps to not be bored...never a dull moment figuring out if the syndicate will call a strike, or lighting strike or half strike, or a bus burning will cause a paralysis
asp
written by João da Silva, February 14, 2013

oh well, i guess not knowing what is happening each day with public transportation helps to not be bored...never a dull moment figuring out if the syndicate will call a strike, or lighting strike or half strike, or a bus burning will cause a paralysis


After reading the following link, I am getting the feeling that the situation is getting out of control.smilies/angry.gif

http://diariocatarinense.clicr...44353.html

Buses running only from 7 A.M. to 7 P.M.? I can imagine numerous negative effects on the local economy. It is all the more amazing to read that the lady lawyer who is under custody is being transferred to a special cell elsewhere, because she has a degree and that entitles her to special privileges. smilies/shocked.gif
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written by asp, February 15, 2013
thanks for the article, joao

lets face it, the people who actualy have to use public transport are left out in the cold

there are lots of solutions, but, everyone is twittling their thumbs to figure it out because they all have cars...if they had to use public trasnport, this would be solved

the sindicates are as bad as the thugs, they decided this, how many more weeks before another strike for more pay?
asp
written by João da Silva, February 15, 2013

there are lots of solutions, but, everyone is twittling their thumbs to figure it out because they all have cars...if they had to use public trasnport, this would be solved


Even though I also have a car, ah wholeheartedly agree with your thought provoking comment, ASP. I am thinking about honest Brasilian workers who work in the drug stores, supermarkets, gss stations, etc; that are on the shift beyond 7 P.M.smilies/angry.gif

But...but....but... the "força Nacional" seems to have arrived already. Lets see how things play out.

the sindicates are as bad as the thugs, they decided this, how many more weeks before another strike for more pay?


Spot on. I have had several experience with these "thugs" and they really don't give a s**t about the "End users" (Read: "customers")smilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gif
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written by asp, February 17, 2013
joao...only 300 government troops? what is that , a joke? and they are only accompanying convoys of prison transfers?

why arnt there several thousand troops, with one armed military personal on each bus?

helping prison transfers does nothing for us bus users...as usual, its all show, and the regular people are subject to the next paralysis and chaos...we just want to get to our jobs and commitments without some silly games that dont even address the real solution
asp
written by João da Silva, February 17, 2013

joao...only 300 government troops? what is that , a joke? and they are only accompanying convoys of prison transfers?


It is more than "accompanying convoys of prison transfer", ASP. Some up in the hierarchy of the govt must be monitoring your comments and following your advice.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

The commander of the "Força Nacional" and his lads look pleasantly intimidating.smilies/cool.gif
Where else would I find my old comrades...
written by lloyd cata, February 18, 2013
...discussing what they know is a subject of which I have some experience - the ' historic' corruption of society, not just in Brazil, but throughout the 'colonial' experience, which endures today, as evidenced by the secular Washington corruption as well as the relationship between Brazil and the Catholic Church.

As those who -follow- understand, that I am known to "connect- the-dots" in patterns that defy rhetoric or conjecture, so I am reading these particular comments wirh much fascination. Our esteemed colleague Mr. Amaral should be in 'full armor' against these 'scurrilous charges' against his ancestry. No less than a full frontal barrage will adequately refute the claims of crookedness, and wickedness visited upon the Indigenous Peoples of the Americas.

Oh, this should be fun!
...and my jolly friend Asp is still in full anti-FARC battle dress
written by lloyd cata, February 18, 2013
Yo, asp, ....still not over that senorita the crack-head took from you, huh? You really need to let that go man. Its not good for your karma dude.

Good to know that license only cost R500, because I already know how to drive, and considering Brazil Third World transportation, its probably best on bicycle(real terror)smilies/cheesy.gif

Sure is good to be back among friends. Now who is going for the the vodka? Well you know that discussions among you heathens works up a mans thirst.

Jaio, perhaps if our friend asp were more erudite in his comments we might attract more -females- to the discussion, ...and who knows? In a world full of ignorance asp may find another like-minded woman to forget the last. Just a thought....smilies/wink.gif
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written by João da Silva, February 18, 2013

Where else would I find my old comrades...


Sounds like Dr.L.C.smilies/wink.gif But...But...but...I await his further comments to confirm or deny that it is really him.For example, he can reveal to us who (IHHO) really fired the Popesmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/angry.gif

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written by asp, February 19, 2013
oh bla ha ha ha ha ,hey, jaio, is this the real loyld cata or not ? bla hahahahah...

no matter who it is, as usual, they sit a million miles away and make intellectual spam they got from reading a book by moan chumpski...and then try to belittle my manhood because i can f**k up their logic so well with the plain truth...lets review

just google these subjects and look at page after page of evidance:

google "farc hugo chavez"
"farc equador correa"
"farc fernando beiramar"
"farc pcc"
"farc bus burnings"
"santa cararina onibus queimados"

just start on those for a real education...god , im reading the huff post and there reports on chavez coming back or other ones on latin america..my god its just amazing , mind boggling how supporters or detractors have no idea of this kind of activity

and what the f**k, jaio, look at the reality we are living right now in the present

you did see that even with the 300 military the bus burning continue...i beleive the cars hit are just vandals, not organised crime...these military arnt here to help us

and , did you actualy see the governer try to put it off on synthetic drugs? like exstacy? i mean is he s**tting me? exstacy busts are about as frequent as cocaine busts were 15 years ago here, marijuana always had a big presence , and that never was the problem...

look how many coke busts really started taking off when beiramar was caught with farc!! especialy in the last 7 or 8 years, coke busts have been cronic, weekly and sometimes days in a row....violence has increased in a huge away parraleling the infiltration of coke into the market

brazil is now the biggest crack user in the world...

this isnt a slam on brazil or brazilian people, what a bag of s**t to anyone who thinks that what this is...this is a slam at how farc, their allies in parguay and bolivia and their support that happened in the past from chavez and correa, that contributed to this market growing like it did, and how they are using brazil as their cash cow...they are growing rich while contributing to decimation and destruction inside brazil's social fabric, and they ought to be called out for it

but so few can...what the f**king god damn hell, why?

its bulls**t and hypocracy....f**k it , i can see through it and smell its putrid odor
asp
written by João da Silva, February 19, 2013

just google these subjects and look at page after page of evidance:


ASP, calm down. You have to realize that those (such as Dr.L.C) who sit a million miles away and make intellectual (intellectual, mah arse) spam they got from reading a book by moan chumpski (who is this fella?)and then belittle your manhood (Never mind, every single distinguished blogger knows you are an Alfa Male) are a bunch of arseholes (I hate to write a long sentence in any language, but...but... but... sometimes it is necessary to confuse enemies and friends (are there any?) alike).

These "intellectuals" such as Dr.L.C. probably have never heard of Google or any other search engines. It is quite likely they think the "Search Engine" is a new Avatar of a "Steam Engine".smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gif

P.S: This comment of mine should really flush out Dr.L.C. out of his drunken stupor after hitting a full bottle of Smirnoff Produced in mah beloved Patria.smilies/angry.gif
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written by asp, February 20, 2013
yeah, jaio , i guess im just hyped up by all the reality that is blatently on display this week...

when i devastate some idiots arguments about how noble the fight against capatilism and the usa with how communism has killed more than 100 million people,they say "oh, that is the past, you are paranoid...(bulls**t)", recent events keep coming home to bite us in the ass

well, just this week, at the same time hugo butthead is being idolised in the news, coming from cuba, you got yaoni sanchez arriving in brazil from cuba and pretty much asaulted by militants from the pc and pt and juvanitude com cabeca na bunda partido socialista..i mean what a dusgusting display of the real ideaology behind the political scenario...oh how the bulls**t lives on and on...it was so f**king ridiculous that suplicity or what ever the spelling was even challenging these punks, and he is on the side of their ideaology...he was screaming " do you have the courage to listen?"

all this at the same time as we get our states version of farc bus burnings up our ass, learned by our wonderful pcg afiliate of the pcc, who are direct customers of the one time hugo butthead/correa supported farc...

why is no one really talking about this? i mean it is pretty blatent and in our faces...these bus burnings are in our face and affects our daily lives...yaoni sanchez had pc and pt militants in her face with some shady implications of a dvd sent straight from cuba...even if that isnt true it doesnt take much imagination to know that info was passed around

its just amazing this rallying for fidel's and raul's communist cuba when we know the people's lives there are held back in the stone age and black scholars have banned together to call the cuban communist regime racist...all except the abcense of notable scholar adrian erik...

my god if only this ideaology crap was the f**k out of here, but it isnt, it keeps raising its ugly putrid smelling head, with its absolutly disgusting vomit inducing rhetorical dogmad ideaology laden puke...diarea of the mouth boo boo crust chomping breath bs flowing like the disgusting river of bullcrap it is

i feel better now

asp
written by João da Silva, February 20, 2013

I am João and not Jaio as Dr.L.C. (under the "influence") misspelled my name.If your keyboard is not to ABNT, just spell it "Joao".

Having corrected you both, here is an interesting article:

http://diariocatarinense.clicr...catarina-4

This is the first time the "authorities" are openly acknowledging what poor ASP & João have been saying for years. Nobody listens to the peasant bloggers. smilies/sad.gif
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written by asp, February 20, 2013
as joao, so sorry, i couldnt resist

your link wont come up and im dying to see if they actualy mention farc at all

please link it up again
asp
written by João da Silva, February 20, 2013

Too hot to crawl out of your cabana and get your popo burnt this morning, eh. ASP?smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif Likewise here too.smilies/grin.gif

your link wont come up and im dying to see if they actualy mention farc at all


No, they don't mention FARC, yet. Tried to access the link again, but the following message comes:

Desculpe, mas não encontramos a página que você procura

Verifique se você digitou o endereço corretamente
A página pode não existir, ter sido removida, renomeada ou estar temporariamente fora do ar


Funny. You think the "Página foi removida"?smilies/shocked.gif
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written by asp, February 21, 2013
whew it is roasting down here isnt it?

what was the jist of the article?
asp
written by João da Silva, February 21, 2013

Although the original article vanished, I located another article that is very similar:

http://diariocatarinense.clicr...49924.html

Our "secretary" says that the community where she lives, not a single bus was burned and things are quiet and peaceful. I am not sure if you read. One of the "chefões" that was arrested was found hidden in a penthouse of an apartment complex located in a "posh" "upper middle class" suburb. The most of them that live here do not use public transport to commute to work, but their "slaves" do. Some buses were burned there. smilies/angry.gif
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written by asp, February 21, 2013
absolutly, i saw on tv that guy was in the luxury apartmen...and, its just a fact, most people busted down here are white, and not from favelas, we sure have favelas and lots of black people...this is important to note that this is not some social racist poverty driven activities...doesnt mean there arnt black people involved also, but, it isnt some result of a social problem

im disapointed they have thrown in marijuana as some problem, that really takes the focus off of the fact that this violence is riding off of the cocaine/crack/arms deals going on and how much it has built up in the last 7 or 8 years where we are, in a shocking mannor...seriously, shocking compared to what it was 12 years ago...marijuana has always been around, and coke on a much smaller scale...the brutality comes from the explosion of the coke trade, coming from colombia, just as it did in the 80's in the states where miami and new york started to get violent images from assasinations coming out on tv and newspapers...it never was the same after that, and coke built south beach realestate

besides that, look how devastating crack is to the user and society...the end of our yellow bus line is now a crack den...

and this s**t has farc deep inside the fonte of the network that arrives here in brazil

marijuana should be legal...period, they even know that and have relaxed lass for users only, hell in the states we all know that some states recognise great medical benifits from marijuna

this problem is the coke/crack/arms trade and the devastation it brings to society and how there is this hook up with farc and huge drug gangs in brazil, and coke is their sepcialty. and how this business and interaction has created a network , interrelated, with huge organised crime gangs, networking prodict and ideas how to f**k with society, like bus burning...which farc is an expert at...

no one can tell the truth about this...i nearly pulled paulo alceu off the beach to scream this at him, but, i thought better

how about yaoni? my god,i get it now, joao, the military dictatorship cracked down so hard on communism and red flaggers and the students, teachers and media, that now, they should be allowed to yell and protest as loud and long as they like with no represion....ok , i get it...

and, thank f**king god brazil never had a che revolution that succeeded
asp
written by João da Silva, February 21, 2013

im disapointed they have thrown in marijuana as some problem, that really takes the focus off of the fact that this violence is riding off of the cocaine/crack/arms deals going on and how much it has built up in the last 7 or 8 years where we are, in a shocking mannor...seriously, shocking compared to what it was 12 years ago.


Marijuana has been around in Brasil for a while, though we from this state were not accustomed to it. The drug problem really started during the tail end of our military government. Foz, a safest tourist spot to visit. Amazon, another great spot. Within 10 years after late Prez.Figueiredo stepped down, the whole thing went out of control.

As for the war waged against our state: Too many "outsiders" (I don't mean you, one of the most distinguished and respectable Gringos who can feel at home even in a place like Timbuktu) selling the "beauty" of our beloved state and involve in land speculation.smilies/grin.gif

Never mind Dr.L.C. As usual ele tirou o cú da reta.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
asp
written by João da Silva, February 21, 2013

how about yaoni?


Do you have a recent picture of her? If so, please post it so that we all can "evaluate" her personality.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Who fired the Pope?
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
That is an 'outrageous' claim by some in media that it was done through my Twitter feed. I want to assure everyone that it is not the case just because Il Papa and I had some difference of opinion on my network.

It is well known among my family, friends, and associates, that I have 'issues' with this church which is not the Church of my youth. And I have indeed gone further and said the church is 'unclean', which is why the congregation(Brazil) is shrinking. That the Popes resignation(first in 600 years of IMPERIALISM) coincides with 'my' statements has no basis in fact, and my only comment up to this point is, "Thanks Be To God!"
FARC "this", FARC "that", FARC "please!"
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
How many FARC in all of Latin America, ...the world? How many Al Qaeda, in all the world? What do they 'have' that they can call their own, in all the world?

The 'fact' that these small bands of thugs and murderers seem to have caught your 'leaders' in their dysfunctional state, perhaps these 'issues' could be resolved. But, Plantation Brazil 'allows' such behavior just as the Saudis bankroll Al Qaeda. Ergo, the new US - Libya/Syria rapproachment with Al Qaeda(...that Mrs. Clinton cannot talk about, so she puts words in Ms. Rice's mouth). What the hell do you think Benghazi was about? Maybe not enough Treasure? You see financing chaos is "what we do!". It is an Art and Science of "creating conflict", with which to 'market' your main export; goo.gl/22xFS. My friends the outgoing SecDEf Panetta put it clearly, ~"cutting the US defense budget is economic suicide". Did I not tell you that surplus War on Terror supplies would be coming your way? Southern Command 'must' do something for the money... GET IT? Of course, with the recent hostilities across northern Africa, well what do you know? America has a shiny new army AFRICOM for just such an occasion. How fortunate! Fate seems to shine on men with guns and jets full of $$$'s. Until they get what they came for, leave, and collapse your economy(Afghans). B-b-but, not to worry, they have a BANK(IMF Loanshark) for people in just your situation, ...and you will pay, and your children will pay, ...and their children will pay, and one day you will wake up and realize - you are now a Palestinian; they own you.

Still, Blood&Treasure, my friends,(2 sets of books),and I will never be in the Skull&Crossbones fraternity, and it appears the wanna-be Greeks have not much use for me either. As ever, I watch both carefully, and the more I watch the more it assures me that everyone should be watching.

I was young and carefree once. Truthfully, Katrina Recovery was a taste of my former self, filled with music, wine, and women. Today, the music is less joyful, the wine bites, and the women are just as beautiful yet not as tempting, ...because the man who is President of the United States, under -his- understanding and authority, has the Power to kill anyone on the planet who threatens the American Empirical Agenda for the World.

Asp, my friend, that these bands of thugs are allowed to roam the planet is not exactly a black-white, right-left, neo-whatever problem. This is 'programmed', and just because your on the bus that gets jacked, if you think its all about FARC, then FARC you! Because, ...until you wake up, your just collateral damages in the "profits of chaos".
...and just because you question my identity!
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
This I will tell you so you know it is "I". Your upcoming Olympics has not been forgotten, and neither has the fact that Brazil thinks it does not have to bow down before the majesty of the Empire. In this my friends you are wrong! It has been 'decided', that your Olympics will be an economic and political disaster if your recent machismo continues.

I beg you consider how contractual delays, sabotage, and simple-minded mismanagement can ruin the best of intentions. Look at all the "western" contractual arrangements, and which ones are crucial to 'success'. Unless you think you can do it alone, there will be a price. You know, like the 'price' of that Security Council seat, huh?
...and just because you question my identity!
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
This I will tell you so you know it is "I". Your upcoming Olympics has not been forgotten, and neither has the fact that Brazil thinks it does not have to bow down before the majesty of the Empire. In this my friends you are wrong! It has been 'decided', that your Olympics will be an economic and political disaster if your recent machismo continues.

I beg you consider how contractual delays, sabotage, and simple-minded mismanagement can ruin the best of intentions. Look at all the "western" contractual arrangements, and which ones are crucial to 'success'. Unless you think you can do it alone, there will be a price. You know, like the 'price' of that Security Council seat, huh?
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written by asp, February 22, 2013
and farc you right back

jesus f**k, after these posts , i think you are a norina

yeah, just look at mali, people like you are happy to have the people of mali get their hands cut off, have their rich culture banned...do you know anything about the dogon? no , you dont give a flying f**k , because all you can do is perceive the world by your magnifying glass up american hemmoroids, for god's sake, how can you stand the smell? it must stay all over you as you walk around your daily life, the stink of too much attention on american hemmoroids...god you smell
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written by asp, February 22, 2013
joao, you can trace the history all you want,but, the way this escalated has been exremly notable and violent...that is the thing, drugs have always been on the scene, why do you think it has gone so violent and that cocaine and crack have become almost weekly sometimes daily busts?

why has coke flooded the market so much?
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written by João da Silva, February 22, 2013

and just because you question my identity!


I beg your pardon, Dr.L.C. I did not question your ID, but...but...but...merely wanted to make sure that it was you indeed. After seeing your customary long,witty and factual comments, I am more than convinced that the your legendary good self is hale, healthy and are aware of the sinister events taking place in every nook and corner of the world, including and especially the Vatican.

Your upcoming Olympics has not been forgotten, and neither has the fact that Brazil thinks it does not have to bow down before the majesty of the Empire.It has been 'decided', that your Olympics will be an economic and political disaster if your recent machismo continues.


Have you forgotten another big event planned for 2014?smilies/cheesy.gif

What do you want us to do, go march in DF and protest against the events? We are open to suggestions.smilies/grin.gif

BTW, glad you are back.smilies/grin.gif
I Had Nothing To Do With It....
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
http://goo.gl/C2AVw - How HSBC Bank Got Away With Money Laundering for Drug Cartels

http://goo.gl/7sxrO - Wachovia Bank laundered $378,400,000,000 of drug cartel money ...(condolences to Reddit for their recent loss, ...in the struggle to "Banish Ignorance")

http://goo.gl/BMNAS - Outrageous HSBC Settlement Proves the Drug War is a Joke (...Rolling Stone, a more intelligent experience than PornHub)

http://goo.gl/97lQy - HSBC Bank Admits Cartel Money Laundering(...someplace to watch, for Drug-busters[Asp] who have no bullets)

Shall we continue with the rest of the "Cartel" clients(Wells Fargo, JP Morgan, Citi, and the Goldman REIT's that are -never- counted)? So, when you see that FARC/Crack-pusher, please understand - he's probably just a 'street-level' employee of the largest money/drug 'institutions' in the world.

Oh, ...and if he is shooting up the neighborhood, they have just the weapons to sell you. Sure to clear out some of those favelas that you find so distasteful, and the turistas just love to visit. Now how much are your Olympic Games going to cost? Don't you want to buy some 'insurance' on such a big project? My, my, I just happen to have the right party; AIG! How very wise of you....




Or...
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
...as I was explaining to Il Papa, when he suddenly resigned, "Faith is easy, its the Truth that is hard, ...but we try!"
Sorry Joao, ...
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
Didn't mean to go 'off-topic' or waste words clearing away the cobwebs that seem to have formed around here. Was looking forward to fresh meat, but would even welcome the Swiss(ch.c), or the Brazil ex-pat Dr. Amaral, at this point. Hell, even Augustus would do, as I have much to tell him of my 'adventures' with Aristotle.

Always,
Lloyd Cata
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written by asp, February 22, 2013
kiss my ass too cata...only your dumb ass would take the stupid drug wars up there and equate them with what is happening down here...sure the whole drug war is f**ked up, but, what your dumb ass doesnt get , with your thousands of miles away rambling , is that, the f**king farc, supported in the past by hugo f**khead and correa in equador, are seriously hooked up with huge organised drug gangs in brazil, and, are causing the decay of society down here...with these wave of bus burnings, another farc legacy, just raping where we live...and, it aint favelas, dick head, its white organsised crime down here...

is mother f**kers like you who cant even stay focused on the real problem, you just ramble your ass all over the map..

f**k that, and, to top it off, cuba disadent, yaoni , gets her presentaion canceled in three locations and met with the most lowest type of bully ass holes trying to out shout the honest debate, with there absolutly disgusting tactics

it is extremly telling and relevant to see these s**t for brains ,only using bullying tactics, and , destroying any real diologue on the subjects, only because their ideaology is so f**ked up that is the only thing that works for them, as well as using the "america is the boogy man"...god, are they some tired mother f**kers...lets face it, you can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig

how can people stand the smell of it? thank god, plenty of brazilians have welcomed yaoni and been open to what she has to say
Money is NOT Speech...
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
// plenty of brazilians have welcomed yaoni and been open to what she has to say //

...and you know the same for Americans, as her blog is also right next to the esteemened Sen. Barque in my 'Fav's'. Yet, now she can go where she wants, you can give her lots of -money- for the cause, and she can 'tour' the world. A Cuban??? We haven't seen this since Desi Arnez married Lucille Ball, that a Cuban would travel the world spouting anti-Castro/Marxist dialogue.

I wish Yaoni Sanchez the Best of Everything, as I do all Cubans. Have I not said in this forum that they are 'special' people? Now, if the Cariocas of Brazil feel differently, ...hey, my friend, you too are a 'visitor' and apparently not too pleased at the moment. Perhaps Yaoni will take you back to Cuba with her. No roaming drug gangs, and the worst punishment is reading Granma, ...or drag your ass back where you came from, ...before those FARC boys pay you a visit.

Like Mr. Amaral, soon you too will be calling for a return of the generals and dictators in Brazil. Their machismo and guns will allow you to sleep at night, ...and the cycle begins again, like hamsters on the same wheel. "PROGRAMMED"
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written by asp, February 22, 2013
hey, cata, let farc bring it...

you dont get it, plenty of brazilians welcomed yaoni...you think im running from hipocritical bulls**t? i spit at hypocritical bulls**t...you think im complaining about brazil? wake the f**k up, im sick of the bulls**t hypocracy from the self deluded suckers of a flawed ideaology, that only can blame the boogy man usa for all the problems in the world, because they are trying to get their own power...they never were for the people or against racism...that is the bulls**t

i dont need a dictatorship , or anyone to help me to see through the punk ass motherf**kers running this bulls**t ideaology s**t into the ground

http://noticias.uol.com.br/internacional/ultimas-noticias/2013/02/21/protesto-volta-a-interromper-evento-com-yoani-sanchez-em-sao-paulo.htm

can you read portuguese, cata? these motherf**kers dont want yaoni to talk...they canceled various presentations of her...that is called censurship...its because they are afraid...their position is so weak they have to disrupt her presentain instead of have a debate about it

that is weakness
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written by asp, February 22, 2013
Yaoni Sanchez, ...who also hates the the stupid Gringo 'embargo'
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
http://goo.gl/9Ankk - at least that is my google bookmark!
Corruption, ...Drugs, Violence, Money, -->> Profits
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
...and if you think the Brazilian banks are going to turn away their share, well I understand,...you've never been a banker, huh?

Lloyd Cata, CV - Bankers Trust, Comm. Treasurer, 1981-1985
Cheese for the Whine...
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko

...perhaps I have my own damsel in distress, and she's 'still' fighting for her life.

Crickets from all the other -female- world leaders? Is that because 'this' woman rejected both the US and the Russian "offers"? Ukraine, once again a Russian outpost on the European map.

Yaoni Sanchez has a large enough audience without the Brazilian street people(Dilma voters/socialists). Perhaps she will temper her remarks now that she is "free", but I think not, so ...perhaps she should have called first.
Crickets....
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
While the Asp configures himself with more explosive diatribe....

Joao, you can join in anytime, but knowing you, unlike your sidekick[asp], I know you come to class 'prepared', so I would appreciate an update on our good friend Col.(?) Astiz from Argentina. I hear Cristina is still hanging them fools with "orphan babies". I'm sure you have the real scoop smilies/wink.gif
Proof...
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
...that she never met anyone in this forum, ...

Yaoni Sanchez, "Brazilians prefer silence", rather than talk about the atrocious Cuban government that fed her, sent her to school, and now allows her to travel the world; an 'healthy/educated' person.

Fellow asked me the other day, "where I was educated?". When I told him, "the New York Public Library", of course he did not understand. Most will not understand, but this they can understand; "The US education system has been broken for many years, it did not start with Bush test scores." A 5th grade reader 100 years ago, in the United States, would qualify for university today! Someones going FORWARD, and someones going BACKWARDS, ...don't you think Cubans are 'special' people too?

Look FORWARD Brazil, but if you forget what happened, when you look BACK it will come to you.
Joao, sounds like an 'invitation' is in order....
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
Your humble visitor from northern climes requests the editor(s) of Brazzil to invite the comments of Yoani Sanchez, Cuban dissident extraordinaire, author, and world-renowned critic on "everything Castro".smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/smiley.gifsmilies/cool.gif
Dr.Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, February 22, 2013

Your humble visitor from northern climes requests the editor(s) of Brazzil to invite the comments of Yoani Sanchez, Cuban dissident extraordinaire, author, and world-renowned critic on "everything Castro"


Great idea, L.C. It is time the editors "request" Srta. Yoani to respond to ASP´s pungent criticisms about her. Somehow, she reminds me of the Libyan woman who accused late Col.Khaddaffy's "forces" of gang raping her and then fled to your country. She is trying to get an asylum in our country and get a cushy government job here. We will not permit it.

As for your HSBC, you are absolutely right. We will not permit our beloved BB to be privatized.

Both U.S. and Brasil have a big problem, L.C. Our "industrial base" is being wiped out by "some" countries and both of us tend to "relax and enjoy" being raped.smilies/angry.gif

You keep posting. BTW, how is your Brasilian grandson?
Ohh...
written by Lloyd Cata, February 22, 2013
...have to sign off right now. baby-sitting for grands-life smilies/cheesy.gif Please check my 'archives' of statements concerning Fidel Castro, both pro and con, which I hope had a little to do with the CHANGE that has occurred since my last statements. My previous words 'still' stand, and I am prepared to match those statements 'today' with the present FACTS, that allows Ms. Sanchez to not understand; "The Cuban Revolution Is Over" - historical fact!

What comes next, noone on Earth knows, not even the dysfunctional Gang in Washington, nor the Comrades on Wall Street, but it will have much to do with Cubans like Ms. Sanchez, if she can only envision a road FORWARD, because all things come to an end.

I cannot thank Ms. Sanchez enough for the suffering her people have endured during the last 50 years of revolution. All I can tell her is that; IT WAS NOT IN VAIN! The people of Latin America will one day understand that what saved them from the disaster of Africa today, was Cubans. Yes, sometimes troops, but mostly doctors and teachers, huh?

If Ms. Sanchez wishes to help her island today perhaps she will petition this US government, that she appears so fond of, to close the INFAMOUS GUANTANAMO GULAG, and return the property to Cuba.

Finally, to Ms. Sanchez, and her (hordes?) of followers; "I thank God, every day, that CUBA IS NOT HAITI...!". Where suffering is manufactured, and poverty is a cash crop. Perhaps, Ms. Sanchez could explore this 'phenomenon' more closely since she has "freedom" to do so.
Dr.Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, February 22, 2013

"The Cuban Revolution Is Over"


Oh, really? When did that happen? Since our good Uncle Fidel was declared a Zombie (along with Mr.Sharon)??

have to sign off right now.


Shame on ya. Just because your wife told ya to sign off?? Ah don't let mine to dictate when to sign off. smilies/wink.gif

Maybe ASP also "signs" off when his wife tells him to do so. When would you Yanks start learning about "machismo", eh?smilies/shocked.gif
asp
written by João da Silva, February 22, 2013

Who is this Francisco Ferreira?
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written by asp, February 23, 2013
cata, and to adrian erik , about cuba in africa, the reason i wont go into a detailed scathing analysis of what really happened there, is because , instead of rambling ahead about something i am not fully knowledgable about, i will read up on it to speak about it.I speak very clearly about the dynamic of farc and chavez and the drug gangs , because i live here , for 26 years, longer than adrian, and have acumalated a body of knowldege based on facts not idealogical bulls**t.

To think cuba was in africa and it was all noble and freedom fighters, would be the most naive of descriptions,and deserves to be respected as much as rush , cheeny or any other right wing hack.

my position on the cold war has always been everyone was dirty, all 4 sides, the super powers and the oposing sides that invited them in with their money and weapons and boots on the ground...EVERYONE IS f**kING DIRTY... do you all get that? you too joao, who chimed in with adrian about africa? if people cant look at the cold war and realise that, they are lying , have an agenda or are extremly naive

i will research africa and if i find that some countries were being attacked with a flawed communist revolution, as though communism could be a real solution anyway, that is real stupidity to think that, then i will give you my opinion...i just dont put forth ideaological drek

cata, your willingness to support an ideaology that eliminated more than 100 million people around the world, is extremly revealing of your ignorance...we fought all those bulls**t cold wars because of a flawed ideaology that said only violent revolution is the solution, then the soviet union colapesed and china went authoritarian capatalist, if that doesnt f**king tell you the story, then you are just naive ...f**k that...why have all the dictatorships in south america gone yet we see cuba and north korrea as f**ked up as ever

as for your love affair with castro and che, here is the truth



http://www.therealcuba.com/Page21.htm

racism in cuba

"The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese."

"The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving, which has pursued him as far as this corner of America and drives him to advance himself, even independently of his own individual aspirations."

che guevara

for those who think that was just his diaries, here is a later quote when he was a full revolutionalry:

"We're going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution. By which I mean: nothing"

suck this in, try not to choke and vomit, but this is the type of scum you love
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written by asp, February 23, 2013
http://www.therealcuba.com/Page21.htm

(joao,no i dont know who that ferreira is, who is he?)
asp
written by João da Silva, February 23, 2013

(joao,no i dont know who that ferreira is, who is he?)


Never mind who he is. The reappearance of L.C. has rekindled my interest in Geopolitics.smilies/wink.gif

L.C., Adrian & Ederson understand a lot more about "Rape of Africa" than many of us. If the last two are reading this thread, it would enrich our debate.

However, the comments of Dr.L.C. sounds more like "confessions" (of his past) misdeeds. smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Ooops!
written by lloyd cata, February 23, 2013
Must be >>>me - Cubans in Africa, ...Commies in Africa, ...Africans in Africa(?), ...no that was Cuban/Che racism, ...(dem darkies just stupid, boss!)

Of course, once I get me an -education-, I'll be right back to tell you what the CIA & FOX News had to say. Don't go away, Google is very fast on the beach. I been meaning to get that education, y'know! Them damn FARC boys done closed the library. B-b-but I'm sure not to mention the British history of Sub-Saharan Africa, or how the rest of Europe chopped it up, so badly that even today families of the same clan can be on different sides of the border - smart; ask any Kurd! Or don't, ...which would take us back to the House of Windsor. Now most people think those suits-of-armor are just for show. Well, truthfully, they are the history and legacy of one of the bloodthirstiest families in the history of mankind. Forget Stalin, or Mao, ...they were one man for a generation. The 'royals' have covered on end of the Earth to the other with blood, ...and have the 'trophies' to prove it. There is 'no' corner of the planet they have not plundered, and if it was good enough for them, ....ain't we cousins?

Seems I see where India wants back some of the royal-family-jewels. What's that about? Well, we could chalk it up to pilfery and pillage, but you know the House of Windsor; "we're just holding them for -safekeeping-(?) There is no corner of the planet, from India to Argentina that does not have a claim against the British. Surely, ...it must be their own ignorance that makes them believe they will get anything but more bullets. HONG KONG IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT! We are still the Big Gaigin in the 'colonies'(ahem, meant to say Commonwealth).

So, ...an -education- is only as good as the Truth of the matter. The Empire is still intact, the Commonwealth is still intact, and the SOTU is good. What could possibly be wrong according to them darkies, socialists, and Commies?
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written by João da Silva, February 23, 2013

Excellent comments.The evil Empire, HSBC, Bonesmen, House of Windsor,etc;

Forgotten Bildenbergers? Ah, why is " HONG KONG IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT"?

Forget Stalin, or Mao, ...they were one man for a generation.


Thank God for it. But...but...but... what about the Castro and Chavez dynasty?smilies/shocked.gif

Standing by to read further comments.
Corruption, ...for Foodies & Dummies
written by lloyd cata, February 23, 2013
Must say I was pleased when Brazil bought the Burger King brand, here in the US, since it is one of my infrequent fast food joints. Well, my thinking was that the worlds largest -beef- producer would be an upgrade from the pink-slime agenda of the US FDA. Lo-and-behold! ....the new owners find the Europeans are switching horse-meat for beef.

Now my first reaction was that Burger King was stupid to blow the whistle on themselves, but you have to understand that they are just as much the -victim- of corruption. That the euro's eat horses is no great revelation, but to make a horses-arse out of tne rest of tbe world is just low and heinous.

B-b-but we'll get over this. The problem is when they decide to put your arse on a platter! smilies/kiss.gifsmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/wink.gif
João
written by Lloyd Cata, February 23, 2013
My good man, you know very well that I am not a fan of 'conspiracy theories'. As for Bildenberg, Illuminati, ...and the x-tians of Opus Dei, I must wait for them to trip up and show their hand, which I expect 'shortly'.

Tell you why, ...its in their 'advertising', which you will find circulating around Davos/WEF. That conclave of glitterati represents the cream of New World Order, and their masters are not very far from such a gathering of "candidates". You see, the "Group" must expand, and it is from this gathering that 'candidates' are chosen.

BTW, grands doing great, ...he has a sister, 18-mo, and she already dancessmilies/cheesy.gif. He's a whiz, at 5-yrs having mastered MS, Linux, Sony, Wii, and any other console you put in front of him; scary smart! Can't wait for them to visit their grands in Brazil. I would like to join them, but after Ms. Sanchez reception...., not so much the same crowd, but you know I am following the generals, and would not like to unduly antagonize such personages; if I don't have to! How is Gen. Helano? Somehow I see his hand in trying to get rid of banditos(high&low), and I look forward to his continued patriotism to save the day(or maybe my bacon?)smilies/grin.gif

Perhaps you remember a discussion we had about 'patriots'? Anyway, last we spoke of this, my perspective was the question of whether someone could be a "patriot" and an "enemy-of-the-state". Certainly, the 'possibility' WAS ingrained in the US Constitution, and despite my favor of 'gun-control', you see how it goes here(Newtown, Aurora, Tucson, Chicago, ...etc). Children, victims, the community is held hostage to those AFRAID of this US Government, which means there will be no controls, and the victims simply transfer to the genus of Numbers. (I am sure my Master Aristotle could explain, but lets just say; NRA will not support anything that 'lowers-the-body-count').

What is really concerning is that the Bill of Rights has become nothing but ass-wipe with the NDAA/Patriot Act "laws" which give Mr. Obama the POWER of Indefinite Detention & Summary Execution. For those who -follow- this has been my concern since our last discussion.

Effectively, ObL did not defeat their army, or their people, ...he simply made their Constitution irrelevant in the name of Security. Joe McCarthy would be proud of the "Esteemed Harvard-educated constitutional Scholar" in the Oval Office. The US bill of Rights may as well been sent with Osama to the bottom of the ocean.
Ederson is still reading Brazzil.
written by Limpopo, February 24, 2013
Yes, Joao, it is a certainty that Ederson is still reading your threads. However, as he ages gracefully, his interests have become considerably more focused, and he is reluctant to comment on much more than hunting rifles, dogs, and recollections of home. It won't be long until the last of his yeladim have escaped yet another prestigious American university, and then he can return to warmer climes. You will be glad to know that he retains his excellent, wry humor and appetite for crumpets. smilies/wink.gif He has heard much about the respected Dr. L. Cata and looks forward to his reading his essays.
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, February 24, 2013

Yes, Joao, it is a certainty that Ederson is still reading your threads.


Mr.Limpopo Salamu kwa Eddie. Kumwuliza kusoma insha ya Dr.LC yetu kubwa nyeupe baba.smilies/grin.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/wink.gif

BTW, I liked your screen name of "Limpopo".smilies/smiley.gif
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, February 24, 2013

BTW, grands doing great, ...he has a sister, 18-mo, and she already dances. He's a whiz, at 5-yrs having mastered MS, Linux, Sony, Wii, and any other console you put in front of him; scary smart! Can't wait for them to visit their grands in Brazil. I would like to join them, but after Ms. Sanchez reception...., not so much the same crowd, but you know I am following the generals, and would not like to unduly antagonize such personages; if I don't have to! How is Gen. Helano? Somehow I see his hand in trying to get rid of banditos(high&low), and I look forward to his continued patriotism to save the day(or maybe my bacon?)


L.C. You ole coot, you seem to be aging gracefully like our other honorable and distinguished fella blogger Cel.Ederson.smilies/cheesy.gif What else did ya expect of your grand kids? They have the Brasilian blood spirits!

I don't know how and where Gen.Heleno is.The last I heard of him was when he retired. Probably the government like his views regarding Haiti which coincide with yours (and to certain extent mine too).

But...but...but... let me assure that if you decide to visit Brasil, you will receive a warmer welcome than Ms.Sanchez did (unless the purpose of your visit is to challenge ASP into a duel).smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
João
written by Lloyd Cata, February 26, 2013
// It's Time Brazil Stops Blaming the Past for Its Corruption Epidemic - José Ricardo //

Sadly, my friend, as you have advised me in the past as to etiquette, and I am remiss in thanking the author for his wise analysis of past and present corruption. Corruption being the major part of points that I have discussed in this forum.

So last we discussed this I remarked that, "Drugs and violence steal your past and present, but corruption steals your future". Secondly, I have posed that this corruption in Brazil has 'some' cultural aspect(we do not overturn history, we learn from it). Now I see much 'progress' in Brazil on this front. The Mensalao verdicts, and truthfully the appointment of the new Chief Judge, were notable. Did I not say that 'only' the Law would be effective? And that means 'everyone' must be fairly answerable to the Law. Did I not say the success of 'civil rights' was "marching on the courthouse"? B-b-but do you remember what M.L. King had to say about these crooks? The check, when presented was returned "insufficient funds". You don't think maybe somebody should have put something in the account? Well, USA wasn't $16T in debt at the time, so what hope of any relief, ...more worthless paper, accompanying more worthless rhetoric. Even the people in Obama hometown Chicago see no benefit in a Presidency-of-Half-Measures.

Good to hear our 'navigator' Ederson is still keeping a sharp ear to the ground. Never know what feral beast may be on the road these dayssmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif Having the company of Mr. Limpopo will, I am sure, contribute much to the debate, but I'm sure his colleague has warned him of the robustness with which this forum is known smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/shocked.gif Welcome, sir!

...and did the Communists ever come and fix your roof? I am sure that I sent 'instructions' that it be fixed smilies/wink.gif How are you to continue to entertain dullards such as I if the roof leaks? Since I am so assured by your generous welcome of such as myself, I will see to it personally when I arrive! The Earth is changing my friend, and a man needs a good roof at times like this, ...you never know what might come down next smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/angry.gif

Oh, had to go back a minute, ...you had some inquiry about both US and Brazil losing out to 'third parties' for "industrial base", and I would agree with that perspective, however; rpx.me/1/8pih #economist Apparently the 'third party' really has its own issues, one of which is never to be a 'hamster' again. Time to build your own wheel, because if you don't then 'others' will put your backs to 'their' wheel. You see, the Empire has the most glorious wheel in the known universe, but they 'corrupted' the machine, and now they need 'you' to put your back into getting it working again. China, while it has advantage, will 'take' advantage of the opportunity to build their own wheel. Of course, with your kind assistancesmilies/tongue.gifsmilies/sad.gif The Chinese are building 'planetary systems'; http://t.co/M3p3ubp1 ...because they are looking at survival, not profits(...even if the Comrades in Beijing have their own 'brand' of corruption). So, there we have it, ...and it is not new in any culture, so I'm not singularly pointing to Brazil as a example. There are many, and you know what? Nobody minds if they steal a little and put away a little, but "DO THE DAMN WORK!". The people become 'easy' with the corruption, until it eats at the fabric of society and eventually they 'rebel' against such blatant gangsterism. Slowly I see a recognition of this in Brazil, but your starting from a bad place. Justice still does not come without a price, and this is true in America also. Lawyers are not cheap, and they pervert the Law such as without one your pretty much helpless, and even if you get 'legal aid' ...well. lets just say, "The American Gulag has more people in jails than anyone, 2M+, with -shareholders- in human misery". Great business model, and right now more 'profitable' than hotels. A growth industry! Fed by the War on Drugs. Costs between $20K-40K/prisoner. Certainly no hotel in the world can match it for 'occupancy rates'. Funny thing is, some of the 'prisoners' are -working- for Fortune 500 corporations. Sure, you can work for Microsoft, Disney, or whoever, from jail. Hit the streets and they don't want to know you. ???Just who is running slave labor prisons? Haven't we discussed the pot and the kettle?
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, February 26, 2013

Having the company of Mr. Limpopo will, I am sure, contribute much to the debate,


Ah dont know how much Mr.Limpopo will contribute to the debate, but he is essential to one´s body hygiene.smilies/wink.gif

But...but...but... his boss Cel.Ederson is not only a linguist, but also a multitask manager. Hope his latest book includes characters that portray the Pope, you, ASP and me. After all we are contributing to the peace in our planetsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/angry.gif
Please thank Dr. Amaral...
written by Lloyd Cata, February 26, 2013
// Brazil's Press Freedom Is Threatened from All Sides: Gangs, Army and Courts //

...for the essay ending with;
You have to be a JACKASS and an idiot to do any type of business with these crooks.
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I always knew he would see further than the glitter of gold, because we 'know' that, "all that glitters is not gold", eh?smilies/wink.gif

(...as you see, I am trying to catch up!) There has been much progress since my last appearance. Well you know that I have been busy with North Africa, since it appears the Mid-East has determined to overcome their spasm of anti-imperialism. There is almost nothing to be accomplished by more blood and treasure. The withdrawal is underway. New lines are being formed and reformed. As Mr. Panetta, who I find to be worthy of the term 'leader/public servant', says ~"the United States would be 'crazy' to ever again commit ground troops to the Middle East". Ahhh well, there is always Africa! Because without Africa those Europeans would be 'paupers'.

People look at 'media', ...always someone 'giving' to Africa. Always plenty of investors, governments, NGO's, celebrities, and others 'giving' to those poor fool Africans. I hear its $1T in 'Aid For Africa!" Now that's a BIG number, and it is used to low-rate these people and to dehumanize them. Yet where is it broadcast what is -extracted- from Africa. As I said those Euro's would be paupers. You have no idea why they made a 'deal' with Col. Qaddafi, which was rejected by the Arab Spring, and now must be -renegotiated- with Al Qaeda. Mrs. Clinton, et al, now clearly understand the limits of their corruption, ...or maybe a certain 'doctor' is presiding over the negotiationssmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/angry.gif

May be some time before I have absorbed how everyone is/has-been doing. As you see, "I am well, if you are well", and this goes out to all who are fighting for Truth, and are engaged in "The Struggle To Banish Ignorance".

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written by Lloyd Cata, February 26, 2013
...and since you know that I am still not accustomed to giving Dr. Amaral the last wordsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

// Brazil's Press Freedom Is Threatened from All Sides: Gangs, Army and Courts //

When you have been in bed with each of these 'organizations', one after the other, perhaps the 'rewards' of your 'promiscuous behavior' will be rather unpleasant!

I sure there is a very witty Brazilian proverb that would explain this phenomenon better than my poor analysis, ...but as I said, "we try!"
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, February 26, 2013

Please thank Dr. Amaral..


Dr.Amaral has reasons many times and no reasons at all many times. But..but..but..ya´ll (along with Herr.Limpop) have something in common. Supporting the underprivileged folks from Gibraltar to Cape Town.

You have no idea why they made a 'deal' with Col. Qaddafi, which was rejected by the Arab Spring, and now must be -renegotiated- with Al Qaeda.


Ah think ah have pretty good idea about the deal they tried to make with Late Col.Qaddafi . It didn't work out, because our "neutral" Swiss friend ch.c was involved in the "negotiations" and ended up the same way as the good Col. So sad.smilies/sad.gif
...and yet!
written by Lloyd Cata, February 27, 2013
Did I not say, "Never count the Americans out!". They are an ingenious people, and capable of the 'exceptionalism' that is not evident in their leadership or government.

My recent prize for "American Exceptionalism" goes to;
http://goo.gl/qaXaB ..."and a child shall lead the way", because Lord knows the adults ... (maybe that's why the evil murders of so many around the world, who the anti-abortionists/x-tians care nothing for, since they are waiting for a 'special baby'). In truth, they do believe that every baby is special, until they get big enough to see the TRUTH, ...then they are a problem! Don't they all fervently wish Obama had never been born? WHAT!!!smilies/shocked.gif

So, as the ever effervescent Asp rages about FARC and the 'narco-industrial-complex', please remember sir, that I went to war long before Vietnam. The place was called Fort Apache-The Bronx. Raging Heroin trafficking. Junkies just dropping like flies, and ever-present gunfire(which you see above -link-). Even "Nicky Barnes" had an 'up-town piece'. Yeah, That Nicky Barnes, who made Rudy Guiliani famous as a prosecutor.(The Law)

Truth is 50 years later, that neighborhood is still nowhere to be out on the streets at night. Better YES!, ...Morrisania Hospital( http://goo.gl/xHqi6 ...still rockin') where I was born was once Americas best gun-shot trauma center. When America once before was at war with itself over drugs. Now they have 'exported' the fight to include your neighborhood, huh? To say I'm shocked would be untruthful, since this is a regular practice of 'terrorists' to export and expand TERRORISM!

...and the banner headline is;

// US Exports Inflation Into Its Southern Neighbors Economies"

Remember what was said so plainly about "throwing money from helicopters", well now Mr. Bernanke prints $40B/mo and throws it down the rat-hole of Fannie & Freddie to keep the banks flush until they unravel their bit of Euro-gambling. Backdoor gangsterism and loan-sharking with Americans money. That money will eventually 'hit-the-streets', but first they must set the stage, which is the dysfunction of Washington. Do not get complacent, because once they finish their little squabbling over how to 'split-the-pot', they are going to seriously get back to you, and they will have literally TONS OF MONEY($) for YOU! Believe me, the 'envelopes' will not do, ...perhaps a palatial estate in Florida? Real estate is now relatively cheap, and since the generous American people have paid off the mortgage. Did you catch the 'sleight-of-hand' in that little trick? See, ...I told you that I was once a banker.smilies/cheesy.gif

You bet, it takes tough law-enforcement to carry out the Law. The problem is that they are either breaking the Law themselves, or getting the envelope to look the other way. Which state had to get rid of their entire 'gang' of law-enforcers? Look at Mexico; chaos of corruption that went on so long its taken a generation to raise any kind of uncorrupted force to combat the cartels. What was that NAFTA was supposed to do? Oh, that's right, ...make Mexico so dangerous that even an Afghan would flee across the border. A journalism degree in Mexico should come with a bullet-proof vest and a US visa.smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

People in this forum, and around the the world, are watching to see if Brazil will follow the Mexican recipe(Made in USA). DO NOT BE STUPID, BRAZIL! The Swiss(ch.c) would only accuse you of more navel-gazingsmilies/smiley.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
...the arrogance of error
written by Lloyd Cata, February 27, 2013
...that -link- was BELOW the statement;

Morrisania Hospital( http://goo.gl/xHqi6 ...still rockin') - my hood!

Eat your heart out Brooklyn, because everyone knows the beat and the rap was -created- in the Bronx! TRUTH... http://goo.gl/4XToR
Ahem!..."created in the Bronx."
written by Lloyd Cata, February 27, 2013
...a bit of 'creative' license, which is only recognizable if you have the perspective of African language, history, and customs.

I will explore this further on a more 'science-based' thread, which you may recognize from my statements on 'genetics'....smilies/cool.gif
Ahem!..."created in the Bronx."
written by Lloyd Cata, February 27, 2013
...a bit of 'creative' license, which is only recognizable if you have the perspective of African language, history, and customs.

I will explore this further on a more 'science-based' thread, which you may recognize from my statements on 'genetics'....smilies/cool.gif
Comrade Dr. Ernest "Che" Guevara
written by Lloyd Cata, February 27, 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara ...always open to 'correction'.

There is some thought among the 'media' that I am a raging leftist idealizing terrorists and murderers. Certainly, it must be recognized what credence I give to such labels given 'my' views.

For me, Che was a man who studied;

// Guevara learned chess from his father and began participating in local tournaments by age 12. // - as did I, but it was my brother who taught me.

// The Guevara home contained more than 3,000 books, which allowed Guevara to be an enthusiastic and eclectic reader, with interests including Karl Marx, William Faulkner, André Gide, Emilio Salgari and Jules Verne. // - sadly, my home(s) had no such 'treasure', but did I not say my 'education' came from that great store of books at the New York Public Library? More on 'that' later, as some suspect I am a 'closet conservative', which I never denied, since I am thankful for the 'philanthropy' of those such as Mr. Carnegie, Mr. Vanderbilt, Mr. Rockefeller, and other 'true' Republicans. We will certainly discuss Mr. Gates, Mr. Buffet, Mr. Carlos Slim, ...and Mr.

// In reference to Che's "restless" nature, his father declared "the first thing to note is that in my son's veins flowed the blood of the Irish rebels." // - Back to 'genetics'. Who would know better than his father? I myself am the product of 3 major gene pools; Native American, African, and Cypriot Greek. It would take volumes to describe how this has shaped my life. But as I often say, "Shakespeare was a better analyst of humanity than Freud".

// In total, the journey took Guevara through Argentina, Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Panama, and the United States (Miami, Florida for 20 days),[42] before returning home to Buenos Aires. // - The search for Truth is a long journey. I can claim no such feat and neither am I inclined to attempt it at my delicate age. However, from what I have seen of the world, including the 'delicacies' of Brazil, I cannot argue with his analysis of imperialism. Our journeys may have been different, but our analysis is the Truth, ...not the whole Truth, but a far cry from the ignorance that still plagues humanity.smilies/cry.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

// Guevara's conviction that Marxism achieved through armed struggle and defended by an armed populace was the only way to rectify such conditions was thus strengthened.[55] Gadea wrote later, "It was Guatemala which finally convinced him of the necessity for armed struggle and for taking the initiative against imperialism. By the time he left, he was sure of this." // - In this Dr. Guevara and I 'disagree'. We did not 'always' disagree on this point, since in my youth I too was inclined to violence as the remedy for imperialism. Certainly, I call for revolution, even today, but that revolution must come from the way we 'think' today. The Truth is the most powerful weapon on Earth! Do we not have evidence of this with the continued 'vilification' and 'enforced exile' of Mr. Assange in the London Ecuadoran embassy? Persecution of the Truth is something inherent in the fabric of Christianity. How could it be otherwise? Are we not 'saved' through the Blood of Christ? X-tians today could care less, and are busily engaged in "The Gospel of Prosperity", ...which seems to be missing from every edition I've read since 5 years old.

So, ...having exhausted mama's patience, and my 'rhetoric' I depart with this Truth'

"Religion, which has limits and boundaries, is intolerant of Artists. Knowledge is the Art Discovery." Lloyd Cata, in tribute to my Master Arristotle.

(note: I also believe that 'fundamentally' Fidel Castro today agrees more with me than Che, but the time and tools to equip his people with the 'knowledge-to-be-free' argued against peaceful protest. The 'forces' arrayed against his tiny band were enormous. They never dreamed that 'they' would have to take 'responsibility' for all the people yearning to be released from the 'hamster cage'. How he has handled that responsibility will be decided long after he is gone, ...and not by such as myself)
asp
written by João da Silva, February 27, 2013

Though Dr.L.C. called you my "sidekick", I implore you to crawl out of your cabana & read his comments very carefully and let me know your viewpoints.

I don't think he really knows what "Limpopo" means in our language, but...but...but... I'll let Ederson clarify this.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

But...but...but...L.C. and you have something in common: He was brought up in Bronx (at least he claims!) and you in Southern Chicago and both of you achieved fame and won the hearts and minds of Brasilian peasants like me.smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/smiley.gif

Cheers to ya. How is life at the empty beaches?
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, February 27, 2013

"Religion, which has limits and boundaries, is intolerant of Artists. Knowledge is the Art Discovery." Lloyd Cata, in tribute to my Master Arristotle.


Absolutely shocked smilies/shocked.gif at your statement.smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/shocked.gif

You a pagan worshiper??????smilies/wink.gif

Having admonished ya, I suggest we all move to the first thread titled "A Brazilian Theologian Once Silenced by Cardinal Ratzinger Talks About the Old and the New Pope". Request you read it AS(A)P and give us all a synopsis and your UN-whitewashed comments.

BTW, I still think the next Pope is going to be an American."Never count the Americans out".smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
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written by asp, February 28, 2013
joao ...computor problems

oh man, cata,what the f**k with the quotes and your name,like you are quotable...

"lolyd cata knows nothing about che...him and fidel are f**king racists"
asp

"raised in the south bronx, part indian, african and greek, served his country in vietnam,with so much credibilty and good things, what went wrong with lolyd cata?" asp(i was ducking bullets, and standing up to gangs, on the south side of chicago at that time...)

"anybody who thinks anywhere in the world that fighting for communism is a freedom fighter, has it all wrong, they are freedom f**kers,they f**k freedom in the ass...." asp (i dont do google searches to debate about africa, that is why i tell the real truth about brazil and what is happening , its real life , reality, not arm chair quarterbacking, based on 26 years of living here and doing the real research, the kind the media wont give you here either)

yeah, cata, the brazilian generals are waiting for you to grab you on the tarmac when you arrive, because no one gives a flying f**k about their opinion about what happened in the dictatorship...they are only waiting for you
asp
written by Lloyd Cata, March 01, 2013
Your angst about me "quoting" myself is simply due to the fact that if I wish to have anything in life, ...it should be my own truths. Lord knows they've stolen everything elsesmilies/angry.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cool.gif

Perhaps if you -followed- you would see what I mean, but dragging your smilies/kiss.gifass away from pornhub, ...well, its a wonder they let you ride the bus.smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

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