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10-25-09 08:23 AM

aperson: How about...because Israel is right.

How about because Israel is simply the first target of the islamic expansion and if it falls the attacks on the west and the US will intensify…


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October 25, 2009

SouthAmerica: Israel is right from their point of view – I don’t blame Israel for milking the gravy train dry – after a certain point it does not make sense anymore for the United States to borrow money from China to give away to Israel – a gravy train that has been going on for a long time and completely against the self-interest of the United States and the American people. 

The odds are in favor of things getting much better for everybody – if Israel is no longer in the way of peace.


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aperson: alternatively without the US support Israel if cornered will simply turn the entire Middle East into a radioactive desert for several centuries and screw the oil prices... Need more reasons?


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SouthAmerica: As a Brazilian the first thought that comes to mind is that oil at $ 500 dollar per barrel would be very profitable for Petrobras and its vast oil resources.

Besides a large portion of the Brazil economy is powered by ethanol anyway….

By the way, besides Brazil that would be good also for Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Ecuador, Angola, Nigeria, and so on….

The conclusion is we should cut US support to Israel immediately.

After that the United States could concentrate its efforts on more important world affairs such as China, India, Russia, Europe, Brazil and even Africa – or 99.99 percent of the global population.


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aperson: I happen to have a number of Brazilian friends here in the US (NJ). And its kind of ironic that you, not them, are the one who hates Israel, the US, the jews. They would not piss on stupid uber-leftist antisemitic scum like you if you were on fire.


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SouthAmerica: I don't hate Israel, and never did in the past.

I just don't care about Israel, and Israel means nothing to me. I care as much about Israel as I care about the Albania, Congo, Somalia, Sudan, and many other countries that mean nothing to me.

I have no reason to care about Israel in any way - other than I am sick and tired of hearing about Israel year after year on television all the time. I have tuned Israel off as much as I could for a long time, but just like a disease that always keeps coming back and you are sick of it. 

I already explained a number of times on this forum that I am not anti-Jew, or anti-Semitic, or any other excuse that you guys use all the time.

I am not a religious person, and I don’t care which religion anybody practices from Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Moslem, Buddhist, Hinduism, and so on….

I never played the religion game with anybody. When people try to bring out the problems that we have in Brazil such as the Favelas in Rio de Janeiro, or the problem with the criminal gangs – I don’t react by hiding behind religion and start accusing people of being anti-Catholic. (just because many people in Brazil happens to be Catholic).

Maybe in the future any time someone says anything against Brazil that I don’t like it then to shut him/her up I am going to start whining about that that person must be an anti-Catholic.

From now on I am going to use the Israeli strategy – anybody that says anything against Brazil it must be because that person is anti-Catholic.

In no time we all can be playing the hide behind the religion game.

Any time anybody say anything against Brazil in the future it is because that person is anti-Brazilian, anti-Latin American, anti-South American, and above all anti-Catholic.


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aperson: They would not piss on stupid uber-leftist antisemitic scum like you if you were on fire.


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SouthAmerica: You people committed genocide in Lebanon and Gaza - and the entire world were watching it live on CNN News and on the BBC News...

A picture is worth a thousand words....


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10-25-09 03:03 AM

Gio 2009: It's kind of odd, for someone who &quot;doesn't care about Israel&quot; and &quot;doesn't want to hear about Israel&quot;, you sure do run your mouth about it a lot. Why is that?


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October 24, 2009

SouthAmerica: Because the American mainstream media keep show stuff about Israel on television – who cares about a little piece of worthless desert?

I am not religious and I don’t believe in the Fairy Tales about Moses, Abraham and so forth from an age long gone that sensible people should not take to seriously today. 

To me Israel is just a little country with a few million people – a piece of worthless desert and nothing more.

I find disgusting when I see on television the destruction caused by Israel against the Gaza people – they come with their gunships armed with missiles and they blow up buildings full with woman, children and senior citizens. And that happens time and time again – If anything Israel is a state out of control that wants to make war on all its neighbours. Israel destroyed Lebanon completely about 2 years ago from the air, and now Israel wants to bomb Iran.

Israel started looking as the real cancer in that region of the world – a country that wants to keep waging wars to justify the cash (gravy train) coming from the United States year after year. 

There is a thousand things that are more important for the United States such as China, national health insurance, and so on than keep supporting Israel where the self-interest is having a war strategy to keep the gravy train coming from the United States.

For Israel making trouble and bomb other people’s countries is a way to keep the United States sending cash and weapons to Israel year after year. 

You can read about the Jewish Lobby at:
[url]http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...bby#post1410647[/url]


March 25, 2007

SouthAmerica: It is interesting The Economist magazine choice of a title for an article on their magazine about the Jewish lobby – “Leviathan”.

The Christian interpretation of “Leviathan” is often considered to be a “demon” or natural monster associated with “Satan or the Devil”.

Some biblical scholars considered “Leviathan” to represent the pre-existent forces of chaos.


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Regarding the actual article The Economist said that today the Jewish lobby in the United States can count with the help of - “…The lobbyists had every reason to feel proud of their work. Congress has more Jewish members than ever before: 30 in the House and a remarkable 13 in the Senate.”


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10-25-09 08:14 AM

aperson: There is no american mainstream media spotlight on Israel.


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October 25, 2009

SouthAmerica: Only if you don't include The New York Times, CNN News, the BBC News, Channel 2, 4, 5, 7 and 13, and most of PBS.

Never mind the massive Jewish Lobby and its propaganda machine - including Hollywood.

We are getting to the point in which even films about WW II the story line is being completely distorted because of some kind of agenda.

Other than that ....

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10-25-09 01:27 AM

Mom0/pH0x: the real mistake israel has made here is giving a fuck about what brazil thinks... lol who gives a shit...


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October 24, 2009

SouthAmerica: Brazil never gave a shit about Israel, and the truth is Israel means nothing to Brazil. Brazil has never had any relationship with Israel since the creation of Israel a few decades ago - if you want to believe it or not.

By the way, the only country in the Middle East that has a long history and great relations with Brazil going back a few decades has been Iraq and Saddam Hussein.

Brazil and Brazilians never cared about Israel, and as a matter of fact in the last year Brazil became a home for a number of Palestinians refugees.

If anything today Brazil care even less about Israel than ever before, since Brazilians have been watching what Israel have been doing to Lebanon, and to the people of Gaza. 

If you want to learn a little more about Brazil and the Middle East then read the following article: 

Building Bridges Between Brazil and the Arab World
Written by Ricardo C. Amaral 
Brazzil magazine
Tuesday, 26 October 2004
[url]http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/528/46/[/url]

… Brazil and Iraq

In the past, Brazil had a great business relationship with Iraq, and during the years 1976 to 1990 Iraq became one of the major importers of Brazilian products and services.

Brazil exported over US$ 30 billion dollars of goods and services to Iraq during that period, a volume of business larger than the business that Brazil had individually with any European country.

Iraq was the ideal partner for Brazil at that time, and the Brazilian Ambassador Paulo Tarso Flecha de Lima had been the great architect of this partnership when he lead various commercial trade missions to Baghdad...


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10-25-09 01:40 AM

October 24, 2009

SouthAmerica: I live here in the United States for a long time and it does not make sense to me why the United States gives so much support to Israel in the Middle East? – Since supporting Israel goes completely against the self-interest of the United States in that region of the world.

Israel has manipulated the politicians in Washington long enough, and it is time for the United States disconnect itself from Israel and pursue new policies that support its self-interest in that area of the world. 

Supporting Israel has been a losing proposition in every sense for the United States for a long time, and it is time to get wise and move in a new direction. Only FOOLS would continue on that same old path into nowhere…


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Part 8 of 12


10-25-09 01:53 AM

Gio 2009: I don't believe anyone made the assertion that the world does or should revolve around Israel. You, on the other hand don't seem to realize that the statements you made below about Israel apply more so to brazil. You don't seem to understand that most people don't give a shit about brazil, people don't understand why you keep spamming the board about brazil, no one cares. It's a 3rd world dump with more prostitution and drug addiction than nearly anywhere else on earth. For whatever reason, you are clearly obsessed with it but no one here gives a shit. In fact it's clear that people here are a lot more interested in discussing Israel than brazil. It's a shithole. If anywhere in south america is going to be discussed, at least make it somewhere interesting like Santiago or Buenos Aires. 

Brazil is a corrupt shithole overun with crackwhores and drug addicts.


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10-25-09 02:03 AM

Gio 2009: Yes you have lived in the United States for a long time, which is what makes it really odd that you hate it so much! If brazil is so great, why don't you go live there? It's kind of odd, for someone who &quot;doesn't care about Israel&quot; and &quot;doesn't want to hear about Israel&quot;, you sure do run your mouth about it a lot. Why is that?

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10-23-09 02:45 AM

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SouthAmerica: Nobody cares about the Holocaust anymore.

The world have been watching what Israel did to Lebanon, and to the people in Gaza in the last few years - and that we all saw live on CNN news and on the BBC.


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Fractals ‘R Us: Man, you are unfortunately messed up in your thinking.. you've been coming to ET and drooling all over yourself for years have you not? 

Yassir Arafat and Palestinians destroyed Lebanon after Lebanon took in Palestinians that were kicked out of Jordan... Israel had to man up and push them away from their border... and Gaza, wow, people attacked Israel from Gaza for months and years and Israel had to cowboy up and go in there and shut that garbage down too.. then Obama gave Hamas nearly a Billion dollars to play with and immediately Hamas bought shiploads of.. what else? Weapons !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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10-23-09 07:51 AM

Gio 2009: What's funny is that this guy seems to think he speaks for Brazil. He speaks collectively about what &quot;Brazilians think&quot;.


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October 23, 2009

SouthAmerica: About 2 ½ years ago I posted on this forum the position of the Brazilian government regarding Iran. 

Since then the Brazilian government established even closer relations with the government of Iran.

And that’s a fact if you like it or not.


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The United States is planning to attack Iran with Nuclear Weapons.
[url]http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...6&amp;pagenumber=32[/url]


March 6, 2007

SouthAmerica: With the United States, and Israel trying very hard to start a war against Iran – it is clear to me that the Brazilian government is completely against such a war.

Brazil has good international relations with Iran, and Brazilians want to keep that way.

As the United States is forcing European countries (such as Germany) to stop trading with Iran and in the process making European businesses lose a lot of business from Iran – Brazil should step in and take this opportunity and sell everything in sight to Iran – from foodstuff to anything they need to keep their economy afloat.

The Brazilian economy certainly can take advantage of this opportunity for the creation of thousands of new jobs in Brazil related to the extra trade with Iran.

This trade opportunity with Iran can be worth billions of US dollars in extra international trade for Brazil.

Screw the economic and financial sanctions against Iran.



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March 6, 2007

Enclosed information is from the Homepage of the:
“Brazilian Embassy” in Iran.


The Brazilian Embassy in Tehran has launched its homepage with the intention to be a useful tool in the promotion of our bilateral relations with Iran. Although Brazil and Iran have enjoyed cordial and fruitful historic and diplomatic relations for more than a hundred years, Brazilians and Iranians still know little about each other. 

The distance between the two countries, the cultural and historic experiences that naturally concentrate attention in the immediate geographical space of each nation, and the limited or distorted coverage of both countries by the international media are factors that contribute to this lack of mutual knowledge.

It is therefore my sincere wish and strong hope that through this webpage it will be possible to fill this gap so that Brazilians and Iranians could contact each other directly, not only to receive trade and tourism information, but also to experience the variety -and similarities- of the background information, in the fields of arts, economics, politics and scientific development, leading to a better understanding of each other nation.

Luiz Antônio Fachini Gomes
Ambassador


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10-25-09 01:18 AM

Gio 2009: I'll bet the sizable brazilian Jewish community doesn't agree with him. Including many of the most notable brazilian scientists and the most successful business people, many of whom are Jewish, don't agree with him. I guess he doesn't consider them brazilian??


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October 24, 2009

SouthAmerica: First, we don’t have a sizable Jewish community in Brazil, but we have a large German and Italian community in Brazil, since a large number of Germans, and Italians went to Brazil after WW I, and WW II. 

We also have the largest community of Japanese in the world living outside Japan.

I grew up in Sao Paulo, S.P. Brazil and I remember very well how Brazilians in general feel towards the Jewish community.

We had some good friends who where Jewish, but our family was the exception since in general Brazilians discriminated against Jews in the same way Americans discriminate about black people in the USA, and many people in Brazil did not want to associate with Jews in any way. 

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This thread was posted on the Elite Trader Politics and Religion Forum under the thread name - Israel is &quot;barking on the wrong tree&quot; - suddenly the thread was erased from that website when we started discussing the Jewish Lobby and its influence on the US government policies.

Since I always keep a copy of the postings I am re-posting the information which was deleted from the ET Forum, but it is relevant to the above discussions regarding the above article anyway...


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10-21-09 11:11 AM

October 21, 2009

SouthAmerica: Brazil is a Secular country and Brazilians are secular people.

Brazilians support Iran’s right to develop nuclear weapons – and nuclear weapons development is the business of the Iranian government, the Iranian people and nobody else.

And Brazilians don’t care about Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad personal opinion about the Holocaust.


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Brazil criticized for visit by Iran's president
Reuters - Tue Oct 20, 2009

BRASILIA (Reuters) - Jewish leaders on Tuesday criticized Brazil's plans to receive Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad next month and urged the South American nation to condemn his denial of the Holocaust and &quot;support of international terrorism.&quot;

Brazil, which has defended dialogue and engagement with Iran, is due to get a visit from Ahmadinejad in late November.

&quot;For us, it is very sad to know that Brazil will receive a man who publicly says he wants to destroy our country,&quot; Israeli Chief Rabbi Yona Metzger told reporters after meeting with Brazil's Senate chief, Jose Sarney.

Metzger, who participated in a religious seminar in the capital, Brasilia, urged Brazilian authorities to call off the visit.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center, or SWC, a Jewish human rights organization, said Brazil should use the visit to condemn what it described as Ahmadinejad's anti-Semitic rhetoric.

&quot;Brazil will have the opportunity ... to condemn his dangerous calls for the destruction of Israel, his denial of the Holocaust, and his support of international terrorism,&quot; Shimon Samuels and Sergio Widder of SWC Latin America in Buenos Aires said in a letter to Brazilian Foreign Minister Celso Amorim.

In an e-mailed statement, they said Iran harbored terrorists involved in the 1994 bombing of a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires that killed 85 people. Iran has repeatedly denied any link to the attack.

Brazil's Foreign Ministry had no immediate comment on the Jewish leaders' remarks but reaffirmed its position of promoting engagement with Iran.

Brazil, a rising diplomatic power campaigning to gain a permanent seat at the U.N. Security Council, has adopted a more conciliatory line toward Iran than Western allies, including the United States.

President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva urged Western leaders last month to stop pushing Iran over its nuclear program and instead talk to it to foster peace.

Israeli President Shimon Peres is expected to visit Brazil later this year.


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10-22-09 07:04 AM

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3 - The Holocaust was real. Ahmadenijad is a Holocaust denier. This puts him, and the Iranian government which so obviously supports him, beyond the Pale of civilization. Everyone, including the Iranian government, understands that the minute Iran gets the bomb, they will be bombed, relentlessly and without mercy, by Israel. Everyone, including the Iranian government, also knows this will be an act of self-defense. 


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SouthAmerica: Nobody cares about the Holocaust anymore.

The world have been watching what Israel did to Lebanon, and to the people in Gaza in the last few years - and that we all saw live on CNN news and on the BBC.

And stop saying that Israel is going to bomb Iran. Today Israel don't have the balls to attack Iran.

It is all empty threats and nothing else.

Pakistan another Moslem country has about 100 nuclear warheads, and that neutralizes any tough talk from Israel.

If Israel had any plans to bomb Iran they would have done by now.

Even here in the United States Americans started realizing that all the support that the US has been giving to Israel all these years goes against US self-interest on that area of the world.

I dare Israel to Bomb Iran.

I don't think Israel has the guts to do it today.


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			<description>The jews are very selfish race...$$$ and Moses is what matter to them.The world should boycott Israel untill it returns part of the land that belongs to the Palestinians and recognize Palestine as a nation.The problem is that Washington is full of jews...I have a little jewish blood in my veins running as i do have christians also, but the jews from Israel(not America) are a royal pain in the ASS !!! Free Palestine and return it's land and will talk. - carlos wutke barwick</description>
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This information is more relevant to this thread than the discussion that is going on about Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia, and South America.


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Ricardo: There’s nothing “cartoonish” about what I see on the news on a regular basis.

A Palestian boy with a slingshot being shot to death by heavily armed Israeli soldiers that made headlines around the world.

Or the complete destruction of a country from the air – dropping a massive amount of  cluster bombs that still killing many kids in Lebanon to this day because they think that these little pieces of metal left behind by these bombs are toys and then they blow up on the kids face. 

We saw the devastation on a daily basis and the bodies of senior citizens, woman and children on the news as the result of where the Israelis had dropped their bombs. 

We see all the time the same devastation happening on the Gaza strip where Israeli gunships come on a regular basis and bombard civilian areas to the ground.

There’s nothing “cartoonish” about any of these constant Massacres (carnificina) inflicted by the Israelis on very vulnerable and unprotected people.

And that is the image that has been projected by the mainstream media to the rest of world to see about Israel – an image of severe repression, ruthlessness, and unbridled tyranny.  


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Asp: im not tired of remembering world war 2 and the holocaust. it just educates me more and more of the real evil and depth of horror that humans can go to and makes me happy that my country is engaged in the world, inspite of having made some horrible blunders under really bad leadership...no i dont want to forget at all


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Ricardo: You have the right to live on the past. Maybe if you live long enough in the 1940’s to 1960’s then you might be able to fix it the way you want.

Sorry my friend, but I am more concerned and interested about the future and the things that can be accomplished today and in the future.

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			<description>  OLD REHASHED SCARE TACTICS OF THE COLD WAR ANTI SEMETIC HATE MONGERS WHO LOSE RELEVANCE WHEN PEACE IS MADE ANYWHERE ON EARTH.
  THE AUTHOR WOULD HAVE A CARTOON OF BRAZIL ATOP A CHAIR AFRAID OF THE MOUSE AND EXPECT US TO TAKE IT AS REALITY.
  SOME JOB RETRAINING FOR HIS TERRORIST FRIENDS WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN MAKING REAL PEACE.   - JEFF LAU</description>
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			<title>Milking the Holocaust to the bone.</title>
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Ricardo: Today when I received my copy of the “Financial Times” (UK) I was surprised to see a picture of Netanyahu (the Israeli Prime Minister) visiting Auschwitz (for the usual photo up) that took half of the front page of that newspaper. (I wonder if that was the best that newspaper could do and if that was the most important news the Financial Times could find around the world today to place on its front page?)  

I was wondering how effective must be these photo up’s today when most of us we not even born when the holocaust happened a long time ago. Besides the Jews have milked to the bone that theme over the years, and the reality today is that most people can associate the Jewish state (Israel) with repression of the people from Gaza, and the total destruction of a country Lebanon when the Israeli Army killed thousands of defenseless senior citizens, woman, and children.

One would think that the past history of repression against the Jewish people would teach them, but it seems to me that the only lesson they learnt is repression and massive violence. 

The Jewish community is so out of touch with reality and the world perception of the Israelis today, that they decided to make movies where they killed all the Nazis and they changed the end of World War II. 

I saw the movie “Inglourious Basterds” with Brad Pitt, an attempt of the Jewish community to change world history. The sad part is that the young generation (that usually are clueless about world history) is going to think that the way they depict World War II history in this movie is real. 

The Jews are becoming completely delusional about the perception that people have about them and about the Jewish state – Israel.   

The article on the Financial Times said that Benjamin Netanyahu and his foreign minister Avignor Lieberman would do anything to avoid restarting the peace talks with the Palestinians, and Mr. Lieberman venture to say that the next 16 years offered scarcely better prospects.

In essence Barack Obama should not waste any time with these guys from Israel – I guess Barack Obama must have something more productive to do with his time than wasting his time and energy with these fools. 

The United States look very foolish by sending year after year any foreign aid to these guys, which goes completely against the self interest of the United States as a country anyway.

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			<description>what a bunch of fariy tales, made by people who have no idea what they are talking about

i had on uncle waiting on the boats ready to invade japan, thank god they droped the bombs, it save millions of lives

the japanese had no intention of surrendering...

what the fuch you idiots, it was world war 2 , 42 million people died in it because of germany and japan....take that anti americanistic paranoid cold war propaganda from the soveit union and shove it - asp</description>
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For this we need your valuable assistance in the realization of this dream (project). 
I need donations, may be of material Ecological building the house, or money to buy the material for construction. 
Our commitment to you is to inform you if you want the whole progress of the construction of the house until its final conclusion. 
I invite you to participate in this project but will have little but their importance for the good of nature. 
Let's show the man who can and should respect nature and we can build without the need to harm the environment. 

For those who have help us, tell the data below the bank for donations. 

BANCO DO BRASIL 
AGENCY 0017-7 
CURRENT ACCOUNT 16880-7 
ON BEHALF OF WGLCAR Wellinton Silva 

Your help has two purpose the realization of our dream to build the house proper, and while this home will refeencia to show the Northeast of Brazil and perhaps for all of Brazil, we can live in well with nature without necessiade of agredila . 

Sinceramenmte their collaboration will be important to realize this dream, your donation may be 1 cent or $ 1 million dollars, the important and your participation in the realization of this dream and know that every brick for this house, has your participation too. 
Thank you to everyone who helped and those who might not have had more help the good intention. 
Wellington Silva 
City of Pirambu-Sergipe - Brazil 

I am a Brazilian anonymous, but I have a duty to contribute to the preservation of nature.
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In cribbage, it's rare to have the perfect 19 hand to play up against that of your opponent.  29 is also a peculiar a prime number but one I'm sure my friends in Pakistan should find useful should they care to punch in the provided launch codes - it's entirely their call, not USs.

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Santa: if only they were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry X-mas! 

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Ricardo: That's probably what you would be posting on the internet, before they actually create the euro.

You are not a person that has any foresight. You are just a Monday morning Quarterback.

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			<description>if only they were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry X-mas! ;D - Santa</description>
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Adolfo: &quot;New Asian Currency&quot;......I just fell off my chair! 


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Ricardo: Here is some more information to help you to fall over a cliff.

I want to see you laugh about that.


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Ricardo C. Amaral: Even the Japanese are starting to wake up. Let me translate for you what they mean by: “regional currency union” 

“Regional currency union” = “New Asian Currency.”

This article was published on the front page of the Financial Times.


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“Japanese poll leader in attack on 'US-led market fundamentalism'”
By Mure Dickie in Tokyo
Financial Times (UK)
Published: August 11, 2009

Yukio Hatoyama, the leader of Japan's opposition Democratic party who is strongly placed to become prime minister after elections this month, has condemned &quot;US-led market fundamentalism&quot; and vowed to shield his nation from the effects of untrammelled globalisation.

With the era of US unilateralism ending and worries about the dollar's future role growing, Japan should also work towards regional currency union and political integration in an &quot;east Asian community&quot;, Mr Hatoyama wrote in an essay published yesterday in the Japanese magazine Voice…

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Gardels: The Obama administration is seeking to borrow billions from the Chinese to finance its stimulus and bailout packages to get the economy going again. What if the Chinese don't buy those Treasuries? Why wouldn't they?

Ferguson: Let's look at the numbers. China's holdings of US Treasuries rose to $801.5 billion in May, an increase of 5% from $763.5 billion in April. Call it $40 billion a month. And let's just imagine the Chinese do that every month through this fiscal year. That would be a credit line to the US government of $480 billion. Considering the total deficit is forecast to be around $2 trillion, that means the Chinese could conceivably finance less than a quarter of total federal government borrowing (whereas a few years ago they were financing virtually the whole deficit). 

The trouble is that the Chinese clearly feel they have enough US government bonds. Their great anxiety is that the Obama administration's very lax fiscal policy plus the Federal Reserve's policy of quantitative easing (in layman's terms, printing money) are going to cause one or both of two things to happen: The price of US bonds could fall and/or the purchasing power of the dollar could fall.

Either way the Chinese lose. Their current strategy is to shift their purchases to the short end of the yield curve, buying Treasury bills instead of 10-year bonds. But that doesn't address the currency risk.

Gardels: What is China's alternative if it seeks a divorce from Chimerica?

Ferguson: I'd call it the empire or superpower option. Instead of continuing in this unhappy marriage, the Chinese can go it alone, counting on their growing economic might (their gross domestic product could equal that of the US by 2030) to buy them global power in their own right. 

In some ways they've already begun doing this. Their naval strategy implies a challenge to US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. Their investments in African minerals and infrastructure look distinctly imperial to me. And now the official line from [Prime Minister] Wen Jiabao is &quot;hasten the implementation of our 'going out' strategy and combine the utilisation of foreign exchange reserves with the 'going out' of our enterprises&quot;.

That sounds like the start of a Chinese campaign to buy a lot of foreign assets. But at the same time, crucially, they need to have their own domestic consumers step up to take the place of over-leveraged Americans. China's economy is above all a manufacturing concern. If no one is going to the shopping malls, their companies are just building their inventories. So a post-Chimerican China needs to be not only an empire but also a consumer society. That means getting ordinary Chinese households to save less and spend more.

Gardels: China seems to have embraced the Special Drawing Rights idea of a basket of currencies to replace the dollar as the reserve currency. Isn't this like &quot;serving papers&quot; - it shows China's intention of breaking up Chimerica over the longer term? Or, are they just hedging their bets?

Ferguson: Yes, I think they are &quot;serving papers&quot;, or at least threatening to do so. I don't myself believe that it's practical to turn International Monetary Fund Special Drawing Rights into a new world currency. They're purely an accounting device, not proper money. But I do see the euro and the yen playing a bigger role in Chinese reserves. 

I also see a day within the next five to 10 years when the Chinese will feel ready to remove their capital controls and allow their own currency, the renminbi, to develop as an international currency. At that point the Chimerican marriage really will be over. And, after all, that's what Moritz Schularick and I always said would happen. We called it &quot;Chimerica&quot; because we thought that such an unbalanced relationship would eventually prove to be a chimera.

Gardels: What are the global strategic implications of such a divorce?

Ferguson: Imagine a new Cold War but one in which the two superpowers are economically the same size, which was never true in the old Cold War because the USSR was always a lot poorer than the USA. 

Or, if you prefer an older analogy, imagine a rerun of the Anglo-German antagonism of the early 1900s, with America in the role of Britain and China in the role of imperial Germany. This is a better analogy because it captures the fact that a high level of economic integration does not necessarily prevent the growth of strategic rivalry and ultimately conflict. 

We are a long way from outright warfare, of course. These things build quite slowly. But the geopolitical tectonic plates are moving, and moving fast. The end of Chimerica is causing India and the United States to become more closely aligned. It's creating an opportunity for Moscow to forge closer links to Beijing.

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Ricardo: I posted the following article on the Elite Trader Forum a few days ago.


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August 6, 2009

SouthAmerica: This marriage might end up in a nasty divorce.

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“Financial marriage between China and the US on the rocks”

Saver Beijing contemplates a divorce from big-spender Washington as it looks for new ways to have its economic needs met 

Bangkok Post (Thailand)
Published: August 1, 2009

Niall Ferguson is a professor of history at Harvard University and a professor of business administration at Harvard Business School. His most recent book is The Ascent of Money: A Financial History of the World. He spoke with Global Viewpoint Network editor Nathan Gardels as the US and China sat down this week for a &quot;strategic dialogue&quot; in Washington - the &quot;G-2&quot; meeting.

Nathan Gardels: Despite all the other issues on his plate, President Barack Obama's overarching challenge over the course of his administration is correcting the imbalance with China. More than anything else, as you have noted, it has been China's strategy of dollar-reserve accumulation that financed America's debt habit. Chinese savings were a key reason US long-term interest rates stayed low and the borrowing binge kept going. Now that the age of leverage is over, what is the key to maintaining the partnership between the big saver and the big spender?

Niall Ferguson: My friend Moritz Schularick and I came up with the idea of &quot;Chimerica&quot; back at the end of 2006. We were trying to explain the global financial boom, with its correlated upward movement of virtually every asset class. 

We decided the answer was that China and America had effectively fused to become a single economy: Chimerica. The Chinese did the saving, the Americans the spending. The Chinese did the exporting, the Americans the importing. The Chinese did the lending, the Americans the borrowing. 

As the Chinese strategy was based on export-led growth, they had no desire to see their currency appreciate against the dollar. So they intervened consistently in currency markets, and as a result have now got international reserves totalling $2.1 trillion (70 trillion baht). Around 70% of these are in dollar-denominated securities, and a large proportion of these are in US government bonds. 

The unintended effect of this was to help finance the US current account deficit at very low interest rates. Without that, it's hard to believe that US financial markets would have bubbled the way they did in the period 2002 to 2007. 

The big question is now whether or not Chimerica is a marriage on the rocks. The financial crisis has brought the age of leverage to an end in the sense that America's highly indebted consumers really cannot borrow any more. The US savings rate is soaring upwards, and US imports from China have declined significantly. The Chinese trade figures tell the same story: Exports have collapsed. 

Of course, that doesn't mean the Chinese are going to stop buying dollars. They daren't allow their currency to appreciate when so many jobs in the export sector are under threat. But it does mean that they are questioning the &quot;Chimerica&quot; strategy.

I would say this is a bit like one of those marriages between a saver and a spender. It can work for a certain period of time, but then the saver gets disillusioned with the spendthrift spouse. Every time the Chinese complain about American profligacy, it reminds me of one of those domestic tiffs in which the saver says to the spender: &quot;You maxed out on the credit cards, but now I am going to cut them up.&quot; Except that it's a threat the Chinese aren't quite ready to carry out. 

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			<description>[quote]Even if he still is out of a mental institution Dr. John Nash would not be wasting his time reading this article about Israel on Brazzil magazine since he was publicly known to be anti-Semitic.
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So anti-semetics don't read about Israel? And about them financing and promoting repression? 

Are you nuts? Anti-semetics write these types of articles the majority of the time!

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