Comments for World Won't Respect Brazilian Indians Patent Rights Starting with Brazil at http://www.brazzil.com , comment 1 to 22 out of 20 comments http://www.brazzil.com Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:22:25 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-34467 Denouncing the Indian Tribe of Brazil on Brazil's East coast in the past and their (fewer in numbers) presence. He has defamed my own race identity and an accomplice to the truth as to why he HATED Bernadette Nata so much when his PC Excel investigators covered the truth as to what was taking place in my residence. Also in this agenda the biggest racist cop Dennis Clisham of Naugatuck, CT known for porn, racial comments and yet the Union defends this trash who retired with billions on a polic chief salary that's justice and America. Money talks. The Ana Mota story line and Ms. Orange instead of being honest regarding any affair they sided with these big wigs on the ground that Bernadette Nata would be stripped of her credibility while the ex Francisco Nata would go out and play with his friends and whatever. This is illegal to use billions, attorneys, lobbying, and influencing to interfere in a private marriage and to promote Anti Indian behavior on Brazil. The massacres of these Indians are being ignored by black extremists and Gates How much more bloodshed is it going to take to substantiate a theory of racelines or existance? Who is doing the killing and for what. We are all people the world is not compromised of just black and white. My family was never black and white so why do they not listen. The Indians on the East Coast of Brazil are fewer pure bred but never the less still there. To affiliate Brazilians as a black and white country is wrong and I will not let this lobbying continue for ulterior motives. It is a multiculture and a diversified culuture. Let us show some respect for these Indians and stop taking their attributes away from them. Their festivals of Iemanja replaced for Black Brazilians and this trend continues due to heavy capital that is in the hands of black groups or entertainers. Their festivals, their teachings of medicine, herbs survival. Worship of the water, sun, moon. Dennis Clisham's pictures and false motive for the ex or political party after harrassment, contributing and the scheming of running that "candidate" - Bernadette Nata Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:54:03 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-34462 Re: Bill Gates and Jesse Jackson Denouncing my past raceline when I was planning on running for a political position. Denouncing the Indians existance on Brazil's East Coast in the Past and fewer pure blood today. Contributing to their theories by influencing the govenment, lobbyists and contributing to to other racial and culture groups to run their groups on this Anti Indian behavior. Also contributing in our books, History, College and Culture to substantiate their opinions. This must Stop Gates Jacskon have no right to tell my niece, my family by buying people for the last 23 yrs to remove my past and current racial identity to cover up abuse, neglect, adultery, and to misuse investigators to label people insane for not adhering to their theories. Gates is playing supreme God worldwide and dictating their govenments. - Bernadette Nata Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:40:09 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25471 The government is retard ! The political envoiramental stinks ! But the people are friendly, peacefull and welcome with foreign people. Brazil is the most beautiful place to make long term relatioship. Maybe why the people take advantage of it. We are looking for a different vision of the "First World Coutries", whom already destroied their rain forest, their green, and now try to dictate rules how to preserve the global envoiramental order. Please give us a break. Stop to get our plants and animals. If they dont have whom to sale for, they will not destroy our nature. Sorry about my english, but is the best as I can get! Thank you Ricardo - Ricardo Lyra Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:52:22 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25222 [quote]e harmony written by Dana, 2007-03-19 22:56:04 Maybe the indians want to profit with the mamona oil or other bio ingredients because they want to protect what is being treaten to disappear, the jungle their home? Hope they get their share and maintain a big piece of the forest untouched for their home and to protect it.[/quote] Perhaps, Dana. Either way I wish them the best. - e harmony Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:07:13 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25196 "And I dont really know about the "Brazil" Indians, but the "U.S.A" Indians are in their vast majority.....ALCOHOLIC !!!! And the "U.S.A" Indians women LOVE much better Junk Foods than their healthy and natural diet. So much, that their rate of obesity is even much higher than "white" American women !!!!! " as you may probobly know, alchoholism is a disease, oftentimes genetic. certain groups of people have weaknesses, and the N.As have a major one with alchohol. why? becouse alchohol was only introduced to the native americas a few hundred years ago, and only truly started drinking it maybe 150 years ago. if you look at other groups of people, you'll find that where alchohol has been a part of the culture for a very long period of time, the people as a whole have a lower instance of alchoholism. E.G alcholism is much more rare in italy, germany, france, russia (they drink alot, but trust me, very few are truly alchoholics, i'm russian) and among the jewish people, as wine has been a weekly sacrament for them for thousands of years. the Irish for example, or certral and southern africans, have a high rate of alchoholism becouse alchohol was only brought during imperial times. as far as the "healthy diet" thing. the Native americans cant quite eat their normal diet, since it;s not available. they cant survive the "old" way, becouse all their original food source has been fuck up (e.g look at what happened with the buffalo and the souix). they are dependant on commercial products, for which they need money. there are also genetic factors in obesity. the original native american diet was not very consisant, you maybe at alot for a week and lived off of scraps for another week. the life was also hard, so their bodies adapted and evolved over years to permanently slow down their metabolism. this way they waste no food energy, and ALL excess is stored into fat rather than expelled. in other words, native americans need only half as much food to develop and function properly. the problem is that all these women are conforming to the norm and gorging themselves on the standard american diet (which is shit anyways in the first place). so you get twice the weight with half the effort. :P im not saying you're wrong...you're right. it's just that you cant truly blame them for it. and as far as the goverment subsidies and stuff, i think they deserve it. to this day, native americans are very marginalized and despite some isolated pockets of success as with mohegan sun, a majority are living in poverty, particularly those in the the south and mid west. sheet we jews got israel for the halocaust, i think they deserve some of their own land for all the crap they had to go through. - dimethlman Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:58:17 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25191 Will Brazilians leave brazil to the indans , i think not as in nature only the strong live , the weak eather adapt or get lost in time . native peoples from all lands for the past 15.000 years have eather had to fight or loose there lands to this day it still goes on , most indan tribes in the USA get along quite well as they get money from the goverment , own gambling casinos on there lands smoke shops where the fed tax does not aply and is it just me are you saying only white people live in the USA , what are french , swiss , germans , english , dutch , its a long list go to any country you find very many colors of people . are you saying only the whites have taken land from other peoples . or they are the root of all evil - forrest allen brown Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:02:30 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25189 American Indians are granted sovereignty for their "lands" even when they don't own the land but trade the govt to get it (and some tribes were down to just several dozen alive members) and they are alllowed to build casinos (the largest casino in the world! is an Indian casino in Connecticut) and they do NOT have to pay any taxes other than the revenue they agree to share with the state and do not even work in the casinos but hire an outside company to run it from the beginning, .. this is occuring in most states, in the CT case all Indian children have a trust fund for life, being an Indian in the states now is truly the most fortunate of all life situations to find yourself in; born wealthy, do not work and guaranteed an ever increasing life style, it is driving the tax paying casinos nuts - alltheway Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:55:07 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25186 Not being supermen, but always to follow a prey with the eyes. Obviously the time won't go back, the people won't abandon America and return the lands to them. - A brazilian Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:00:41 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25183 Maybe the indians want to profit with the mamona oil or other bio ingredients because they want to protect what is being treaten to disappear, the jungle their home? Hope they get their share and maintain a big piece of the forest untouched for their home and to protect it. - Dana Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:56:04 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25182 "They have no intentionto work thus they take their TRADITION as an excuse........" Oh my Chick, your words are so silly that you can make one laugh their hurt of laughing. On my, please stop :D. You show no whatsoever understanding of culture and tradition. e-harmony and dimethlman I would say greed, pride and selfishness feeding ignorance destroys the planet . I would say it is nihilism taking civilization as guilty. One cannot deny the power of producing sensitive ideas civilized man can have. One cannot deny the power of reasoning of communicating of honesty of lucidity of love of generosity civilized man have. None of that should be taken for granted. These are great accomplishments that make life worthy. The problem is that when one has to face ignorance, primitivism, ill-minded together mixed with enlightment. The bad seems to contaminate the good side and the bad side wins because all one can feel sometimes is suspection and threat which unfortunately sometimes is real. No, it is better to fight to see things with a right light. a brazilian I wouldn't romancize indians as well as sterotype white man. I think we are all human beings in different stages of existance. Although white man were the perpetrator of indigenous people as history demonstrates. If Indians were to be victimized it is another story. As for victimization, I think it is an error demand men to be supermen. We are all going to die, we are all vulnerable why not acknowledge ones pains and limitations and be able to live still with that, probably better than the other way because we'll see everyone is alike. That is what the indians do. This is not victimization in my opinion. - Dana Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:49:15 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25180 ch.c., Are Swiss people as stupid as you, or are you just one of a kind? - e harmony Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:21:17 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25179 World (including Brazil) wont recognize patent rights: - for cattles.....native from.....Africa ! - soyabeans....native from.....China ! - corn and wheat....native from ?????? but not from USA, Brazil or Argentina ! - arabica coffee....native from....Ethiopia !!!! - many grasses utilized everywhere.... but .native from Africa and China !!! - Heveas...native from Africa and Amazon (not only Brazilian Amazon) - Orange...native from China ! - cane sugar....origin from.....Tropical Asia (incl. India, Indo-Malaysia) - potatoes and tomatos...orgiin from South America. - rice.....origin from Tropical Asia (incl. India, Indo-Malaysia) Just to name a few. Smile. A site with a list of many Foods & Plants origins: http://online.sfsu.edu/~patters/culinary/pages/croporigins.html AND BRAZILIANS "EXPERTS", VOLUNTARILY OR NOT, FORGET TO MENTION THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON PATENTS RIGHTS : PATENTS RIGHTS HAVE A LIMITATION....IN TIME ! PATENTS RIGHTS ARE NOT FOR ETERNITY !!!!!!! And when one apply for a patent, he has somewhat to disclose details that may help a competitor one way or the other to develop a competing product not against the rights of the filed patent. (Ideas generate other ideas) THAT IS WHY MANY TRADE SECRETS REMAIN SECRETS SUCH AS....THE COCA COLA FORMULA ! A typical Non patented formula (or no longer under patent rights - whatever). Thousands of people tried to duplicate the formula....but without success so far ! - ch.c. Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:59:09 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25175 but it remains that both "U.S.A" Indians and "Brazil" Indians play a double role : they have no intention to work thus they take their TRADITION for an excuse..... but they definitely want to get government money through subdidizes, "new" drugs also free and not really their herbal traditional drugs. They also expect to RECEIVE FREE from the government......cars and or trucks !!!!! They also enjoy listening to radio, some watching TV and most have a fridge too !!!! And I dont really know about the "Brazil" Indians, but the "U.S.A" Indians are in their vast majority.....ALCOHOLIC !!!! And the "U.S.A" Indians women LOVE much better Junk Foods than their healthy and natural diet. So much, that their rate of obesity is even much higher than "white" American women !!!!! In that sense, NOOOOO they are NOT stupid but WHITES ARE !!!!! I can only agree that whites did not leave them with enough land, but Indians expect to receive back as much land as possible ! Dont "Brazil" Indians wish to reclaim some of their "historical" land at or near SP city ?????? Smile !!!!!! If Indians would claim that central SP, Rio and N.Y. belong to them, technically speaking they would be....RIGHT !!!!!!! Bill Gates would become a very poor guy ! Bolivian Indians could then also ask some of the land they lost due to their war with Brazil ! - ch.c. Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:50:20 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25171 [quote]written by dimethlman, 2007-03-19 15:38:02 yes, you are correct. i know all this. but i have a little story for you. a rancher in greece once wanted to know how many teeth a horse has. he decided that the wisest man of all, arisotle, would know; so he gathered his companions and headed off to see aristotle. meanwhile the man's stable boy overheard him arguing about teeth, and just went into a stable, and counted the teeth in a horses mouth. months later, the rancher gets back, dissapointed. the stable boy tries to tell him about the number of teeth that he counted, but of course, the rancher disbelieved that this boy could know something aristotle didnt. although the boy knew how many teeth a horse had, the rancher went the rest of his life oblivious, always wondering, how many teeth are there in a horses mouth? civilization itself, not communism vs. capitalism, is what is destroying this planet. europeans never lived "in harmony" with nature. they farmed the crap out of their soil, untill it was drained of all nutrients. they built cities, cut trees, etc. the only time europeans lived "in harmony" with nature is before the agricultural revolution. you think the 3 field system was an advancement in farming? why dont you find out how the south american indians farm their food. you mention the fertile crecent. did you forget that the irrigation they used was not sustainable. they ran the soil dry, and turned the entire region into a dessert. the aztecs, although also advaced, destroyed themselves in a very simmilar way. yes, the conquistadores were the reason the aztec and mya disspeared the last time, but the aztecs have been the many cycles of destruction and re-birth. in the previous times when they dissapeared, it was becouse they slash and burned all the jungle for farm land, ran it dry, and then didnt have any more food. they only re-apeared as the jungle re-grew, and re-fertilized itself naturally. yes, math and music, and science for that matter is universal, but that doesnt mean that the human race can truly benifit from it. you talk about antibiotics and how they saved millions of lives. whats going to happen when pathogens, as many already have, develop immunities to antibiotics? how many million people will die then? ever taken ayahuasca?[/quote] And yet the irony is that you are utilizing the internet complaining that civilization is destroying the environment. :) As for this assertion, "civilization itself, not communism vs. capitalism, is what is destroying this planet. europeans never lived "in harmony" with nature. they farmed the crap out of their soil, untill it was drained of all nutrients. they built cities, cut trees, etc," I disagree with it. The Europeans to my knowledge were not the first peoples to have settled communities built around farming. And what is so much more special in killing animals for food over cutting down a tree for lumber? But regardless ones view of white peoples, the question still arise, in relation to this article, if civilization is so bad and all (not some) constructs of modern life are bad, then why do Amerindians in the Amazonian jungles need to make a financial profit from a "oil of a nut, the murmuru"? Life is as life is, which is often unfair, but one must still face life on life's terms as best they can. At one time a child never needed to go to school for a single day in his or her life to exist, in the Amazon jungles perhaps this is still true. For many in mankind, basic schooling is now required to make a living and function in the world. Is this good? Is this bad? One can argue that for days, but it is a fact of life for many if not most people. The days of running around half naked with a spear, be it in Europe, Africa, the Middle East, or the Americas are gone except for a small pocket of areas. Today, building communities around solid infrastructure such as plumbing, electricity, paved roads, schools, libraries and internet and satalite (sp?) capabilities is more important. Today genetic engineering of food products is an increasing reality (such as the frost resistant strawberry). Personally I am use to toilets and running water and have no desire to live exposed to the elements void of all services of paramedics or disaster relief funds. I also have no objection to the profession and technologies of the dentist. This is not to say that [b]all[/b] things of modern civilization are good or better, because as far as I'm concerned they are not. Things like homelessness and the nuclear bomb are part of the bad things and insanity of modern civilization. Sociologist noted in the early 20th century that urban industrialization would increasingly result in people becoming alienated from a sense of "community." - e harmony Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:17:22 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25169 yes, you are correct. i know all this. but i have a little story for you. a rancher in greece once wanted to know how many teeth a horse has. he decided that the wisest man of all, arisotle, would know; so he gathered his companions and headed off to see aristotle. meanwhile the man's stable boy overheard him arguing about teeth, and just went into a stable, and counted the teeth in a horses mouth. months later, the rancher gets back, dissapointed. the stable boy tries to tell him about the number of teeth that he counted, but of course, the rancher disbelieved that this boy could know something aristotle didnt. although the boy knew how many teeth a horse had, the rancher went the rest of his life oblivious, always wondering, how many teeth are there in a horses mouth? civilization itself, not communism vs. capitalism, is what is destroying this planet. europeans never lived "in harmony" with nature. they farmed the crap out of their soil, untill it was drained of all nutrients. they built cities, cut trees, etc. the only time europeans lived "in harmony" with nature is before the agricultural revolution. you think the 3 field system was an advancement in farming? why dont you find out how the south american indians farm their food. you mention the fertile crecent. did you forget that the irrigation they used was not sustainable. they ran the soil dry, and turned the entire region into a dessert. the aztecs, although also advaced, destroyed themselves in a very simmilar way. yes, the conquistadores were the reason the aztec and mya disspeared the last time, but the aztecs have been the many cycles of destruction and re-birth. in the previous times when they dissapeared, it was becouse they slash and burned all the jungle for farm land, ran it dry, and then didnt have any more food. they only re-apeared as the jungle re-grew, and re-fertilized itself naturally. yes, math and music, and science for that matter is universal, but that doesnt mean that the human race can truly benifit from it. you talk about antibiotics and how they saved millions of lives. whats going to happen when pathogens, as many already have, develop immunities to antibiotics? how many million people will die then? ever taken ayahuasca? - dimethlman Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:38:02 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25168 [quote]e harmony, may god have mercey on your soul written by dimethlman, 2007-03-19 00:47:17 [b]the native people have a much much more evolved and sophisticated understanding of the world than any modern scientist.[/b] of course, they cant do calculus, write a book, or build a car, nor do they have any sense of money. but, they are in tune with nature. unlike us, the natives have been living for thousands of years in the jungle, surviving completely in harmony with nature. when the white man came they destroyed the land, and it is only becouse of their infiltration do the natives have trouble now. we are slowly killing the planet, turning it into a s**thole. we have alot to learn from the natives, and i believe they deserve due credit for it.[/quote] @ bold: Well that may be your opinion. Certainly scientists can be either as wrong, lost, or distorted or corrupt on a matter as anyone else. But science - which evolves and is in theory self-correcting - has benefited man greatly and increased his understanding of the world and life. The anti-biotic revolution greatly improved the lives of millions or peoples, generation after generation. While we are now moving out of the anti-biotic revolution due bacterial diseases evolving to become drug resistant to our current drugs, we do have hope nonetheless in the future possibilities of genetic medical care. Science anyways has been around with us for probably thousands of years. The applied sciences are "science" though when people speak of "science" they rarely mean to include engineering and other applied sciences into that term. As for living in harmony with nature verse natures destruction, number one human beings are a part of nature, science confirms this. All organisms share a common ancestor, at least in popular theory. Human beings are themselves also part of this material world also, just as a stone is. But you are 100% correct that we have been destroying the environment now for well over 100 years, however that did not come from the "white man" per se, but is a result of [i]capitalism[/i] and [i]communism[/i]. The [i]Industrial Revolution[/i] is what gave the means to human being to destroy the environment at the rate the rate we have. The "white man" lived for thousands of years in Europe in "harmony with nature" as the indigenous in Asia, Africa, or the Americas did. The development of "civilization" (I know its a subjective term) is not even popularly thought to have begun in Europe with the "white man" but in the [i]Fertile Cresent[/i] in the Middle East (we can say amongst brown, olive, or swarthy peoples). Again, if we include the applied sciences into the term "science" (rather than just the natural sciences) then we find "science" was flourishing in ancient Babylon, in various kingdoms of ancient "Hindu" India, certainly we know it was in China, and we can even read Conquistadors letters of astonishment at it (temples and so forth) in the Aztec (Mexica) capital. I'm sure that Amerindians in the rain forests of Brazil have wisdom and knowledge about their environment. I don't doubt this. But I would not go as far as you to suggest people confined to such a parochial view could have "a much much more evolved and sophisticated understanding of the world than any modern scientist." Scientist publish their works and are at the critique of their peers on a global level, science itself is not parochial in view but open to adapting new knowledge from all over the world. The "white mans" use of algebra did not even originate with white people. Algebra came to the "white man" by way of Muslims from the East who themselves learned it from the "Hindus" of India. Math is universal and not parochial, there are very few universal languages in this world, music and math are part of the universal languages. - e harmony Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:04:19 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25166 First, the indians indeed live in tune with nature without destroying it. But there's usually a notion among many individuals especially in urban centers of romancizing indians as some sort of "pure human beings", without any of character defects we see so often. A kind of "nobility" that no one else has. Do you really think this is true? Second, why do you use the term "white man"? Is it tradition in the US to victime yourself or someone else? My stomach turns when people put this abstract entity "white man" in some sort of pedestal, as the perpetrator. Aren't anyone else capable of commiting senseless violence and destruction? Isn't it effeminated when you portray yourself as passive? - A brazilian Mon, 19 Mar 2007 03:17:17 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25162 the native people have a much much more evolved and sophisticated understanding of the world than any modern scientist. of course, they cant do calculus, write a book, or build a car, nor do they have any sense of money. but, they are in tune with nature. unlike us, the natives have been living for thousands of years in the jungle, surviving completely in harmony with nature. when the white man came they destroyed the land, and it is only becouse of their infiltration do the natives have trouble now. we are slowly killing the planet, turning it into a shithole. we have alot to learn from the natives, and i believe they deserve due credit for it. - dimethlman Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:47:17 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25154 Are you telling us you dont do illegal copies of CDs, movies, designers cloth copies and whatever ??????? Have you never heard the word pirating.....pirated copies ??????? Of course Forrest is 1000 % right !!!!!! If not, we are not really surprised of your lies. Lying and cheating being the norm in your country ! It is in your gene, in your blood. You are born with these 2 deseases, and you have no intention to cure them ! - ch.c. Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:19:01 +0100 http://www.brazzil.com/home-mainmenu-1/177-march-2007/9840-world-wont-respect-brazilian-indians-patent-rights-starting-with-brazil.html#comment-25150 Interesting topic. This seems to be a complex issue though, because questions arise right beside suggestions, ideas, or answers. One big question is would Germany be as it is today if its peoples never modernized and assimilated into constructs of modern civilization? Should one promote nomadic life styles and communities in place like Africa or the Americas? I'm not sure I fully know the answer to that question. Ok, so all or some of these tribes may not be nomadic in the true sense nonetheless there seems to be a contradiction in promoting "traditional way of life" in the rain forests of the Amazon or in rural areas of Africa for that matter, yet promoting the idea that people should seek college education and that societies need to develop solid modern infrastructures. All communities be they in the Americas, Africa, Asia, or Europe used plants as medicines for thousands of years (to this day this is how many medicines are developed). So while I recognize that indigenous groups need to have their traditions respected, and while I do agree indigenous peoples should not be taken advantage of, I'm not always so sure encouraging indigenous communities to not assimilate into the constructs of modern civilization is for the best for these peoples. Then again, in some ways their traditional ways of life are probably far superior to our own modern constructs in "civilization." I mean the modern world creates some crazy a** phenomenon as "homelessness." The idea that a corporation is legally a person and the idea of "intellectual property rights" seems some what strange too (at least to me). - e harmony Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:59:17 +0100