Brazzil

Great article Robin Sparks and true.

Lets hope Brazil is prepared for the negative side of mass migration as the overall view must be balanced.

The Government should monitor this with interest because in the long run, it may cause resentment to Brazilian nationals.

There is alway two sides to everything.

I am American (US). I have lived in the Philipines, Thailand and now in Germany. I currently plan to retire in Brasil in 5 years. That is when I think I will have the money and retirement age. Wish I could go now.

As I see it Brasil should be not be called a 3rd world country as in many ways it is ahead of Europe. The Brasil downside is control of crime. Funny thing I feel safer in Brasil than in Arizona where I last lived in the US.

Robin,excellent article.

Here is something that might interest visitors of this site...

www.brasilworldwide.com

greetings from Paraty...

M.

and start living it can be different than expected, especially for an older american that has had most everything in short order his entire life. Don't expect that here! Also, in contrast to the states, don't expect to get a 30 year mortgage on a home with a 6% annual interest rate, more like a 10 year mortgage with anywhere from 2-6% interest rate per month! Any place where there are SIGNIFICANT problems in education you have all that goes along with that. Don't get me wrong, Brazil is a nice place to visit, but living here is a different story.....be prepared! It may be different for those coming here to retire, as they can sit back and sip their caipiroskas, but if you plan on coming to Brazil and doing something, starting a business, etc., well, you'll get to know the beaurocracy in this country which is amongst the worst on the planet. Be prepared to do things the "brazilian way", which is most often not the LEGAL way. When you do buy your little "sitio" be prepared to accept a title for anywhere from 20% to 50% of what you actually paid. Be prepared to not be able to go to the doctors office and the bank in the same day because there's simply not enough time in a working day to do both. Be prepared, especially in the northeast, to deal with the general attitude of disrespect and inconsideration not only for others(any and all, they dont discriminate) but for the very place in which they live, not to mention the growing anti-american sentiments that have exploded here over the last 4 years, but in all fairness, throughout the world. My advice to all, from an American that has been here 6 years and has made and making a significant foreign investment. Don't sell the farm in Nebraska!!! Take $25,000 and come here and live a year, then you'll have a decent "taste" of what it's all about.

you're right about the portuguese, several groups, one huge portuguese group in particular, is practically buying the coastline in the state of Bahia. But I have to comment on one of your statements..."access to quality healthcare"?? There are SIGNIFICANT issues in access to quality healthcare here, especially in the northeast. When you go to Institute do Coração in Sao Paulo you'll see people from all over this country there, and it's because they don't have acess to quality healthcare where they live. In many instances they've travelled from the other side of the country. 2500+ miles!

My buddy here extracts silver from used "fixer" solution used to develop X-rays, I've went with him on his rounds to the public hospitals here in this state and several neighboring states in the northeast. You want to talk about seeing pictures from a National Geographic magazine in real life??

It's quite disgusting these people come to Brasil to sit on their but and not really contribute anything.

Not true... Look at Florida, getting most of its revenues from retired northerners.

For the most part, these people bring new money into the local economy and use essentially no social services at all. Everyone wins!

keol

One thing that the writer did not mention was crime
I have inlaws living in Brazil and they live the life of crimals
by that I mena the crimals are out side in the street while the other people live behind closet gates afraid to go out at night. Living in fear every day is a daily occurance in Brazil cities. You can not drive anywhere or even go to the movies without getting robbed
All of my inlaws have been robbed at least once.
Let me live here in small town America. At least when I leave my house I know it will still be there when I get back

hate to say this, but many of your statements are just plain ignorant. As one poster stated above, "buying a house", well get ready to pay "a vista", that's in full, with your own money, no loan, unless you want to pay the AVERAGE interest rate in brazil which is now 29% anually. Believe there is an article about just that right here on this very site today! Highest interest rates in the world...bar none!

American corporations moving to other countries...now why do you think that is? To maximize profits of course!! Do you think they're going to export their american workers and pay the same wages...of course not! SOME of management may be moved, but the vast majority of employees will be natives, so they can pay a minimum wages of $150 per month instead of paying $150 every two days. They can put 5 workers in the place of every position and still reduce their costs by 50% in comparison to the states. As far as the american salary going 10 times further?? Where is that? Electronics here are anywhere from 200% to 500% more expensive than in the states, imported cars are 200% more expensive, and don't think you're going to get that 0% interest for 60 months and not pay your first payment until month 13!! Once again, another "a vista" purchase.

And as one of the above posters mentioned, violence and crime. Leave your rolex's at home, don't buy an expensive car, change your habits of "the way" you present yourself. Be prepared to live behind a gate and locked doors at all times, even in small cities, unless you want to live in an apartment, which is what the rich do here for security reasons, and then you have all that goes along with "apartment living". Being a "gringo" you'll stand out enough, many won't even have to open their mouth to be discovered. The threat of kidnapping and murder are real threats here, they're not just stories you read in the news.

the devaluation of the dollar!! A year ago $10,000 would get you 30,000 reais, today it will get you 20,000.

whites can't run from jewish/zionist talmudic oppression!!

Well if you think “it is a country overflowing with natural resources and on its way to becoming a first world country. “ Someone has apparently been smoking happy weed!
A recent British study concluded it will take Brazil 304 years to be equal to a 1st world country.
Exports have been a big boon to the economy, but it alone will not bring about first world conditions, even if China buys all that Brazil produces.
In fact in another 5-20 years Brazil might become a prime target for invasion by China for the things China will need the most Food and women!

As for the average American retiree wanting to retire here, I do not think that the average American would. There is a reason why there are few Americans here now!
A single retired person moving here would need a minimum of R$5,000.00 per month to keep him in a comfortable style enough to be a benefit above living in the U.S. Then he would be isolated because of age, language barrier, education level
etc. Retiring here under current conditions is only for the brave or mentally unbalanced whatever the income. However being pushed out of America because of medical cost etc. is a big factor for moving south, but staying here is another thing.

Apparently you are just "re-visiting" Robin because as the accurate posting above pointed out, the disadvantages may likely outweigh any benefits for those considering the jump to Brazil. I will throw my hat into the ring and offer a few more liabilities and/or elaborate on what the previous poster already stated:

Much of what Americans enjoy is access to technology - Plasma TV’s, the latest Mac laptop, latest I-pod, latest 4-wheel drive - you get the point. . .First, all those things in Brazil are 1-2 generations behind what Americans have come to expect. THEY ARE 3 X THE PRICE (and there is always that moment of anxiety when you open the package and wonder if it's a cheap knock-off) and you can forget customer service or support. That may not register for many of you but for someone who places a great value on access to these things, it feels like living in Siberia.

With Brazil's increasing "prosperity" has also come the downside of having a powerful currency. The Real is starting to flex its muscles and that is not a good thing for anyone but Brazilians travelling overseas. The currency is going to continue to strengthen as they (the govt) invite more foreign inflows of investment dollars, not less. Big cities like Rio and SP are already well on the way to dispelling the myth that Brazil is much cheaper on the whole. The truth is that day to day living in Brazil is only slightly cheaper than it is in many parts of the US. My wife happens to be Carioca so I have spent a good deal of time there. I spent 3 weeks in Rio for Reveillon and cannot remember the last time we spent so much money in such a short period of time. Dinner for two is almost as costly as it is in the US and I'm not sure all Americans are prepared to feast on rice 3 times a day.

I tried to buy an apartment in Floripa once. I gave up on that when I realized that every single person I dealt with had lied at some point during the negotiation process. Every “agent” wanted the entirety of the money transferred into their personal accounts before "signing". I CANNOT UNDERSCORE THAT POINT ENOUGH! The number of aging Americans who would be "taken" would be staggering. It is still a culture rife with corruption and that is something many of us have never come to terms with. I have never been "shaken down" by a cop in any part of the world except Brazil (and I have spent significant amounts of time in Mexico and Russia). I have had my Credit and Debit cards cloned. I have been overcharged for having light skin countless times . . . The point is here that you can rarely, if ever, take anything at face value in Brazil.

In addition, your offhanded statement to the effect that America has become a neo-colonizer of Iraq leaves some room for debate as I’m sure the majority of Americans would like nothing more than to see us escape with under 10,000 US casualties at this point. You aren’t trying to ingratiate yourself with the PC crowd with a self-effacing tactic like that are you? I don’t agree with our newfound status as the “Genghis Khan” of the tyrannical set but I fail to see where that has anything to do with your assertion that life in Brazil is great for baby boomers. Oh and yes Brazil has been dealing with China in a big way and has been losing jobs ever since. China has gotten into their knickers like they have most countries. Lula has realized the error of his ways and is now backpeddling, trying to find a way to reverse his foolish policy of allowing China to dump cheap goods on the Brazilian market . . . But I digress.

My point is that there are definitely some advantages to living in Brazil. I have spent well over one year of my life living in Sao Paulo (if you call that living), Floripa and Rio. I know the country well (have been to every state except 2), speak the language with relative ease and appreciate the music, culture, most of the food, and certainly the laid back nature of the Brazilian povo. Overall Brazilians are absolutely wonderful people. You would be hard pressed to find a more hospitable, warm not to mention beautiful people anywhere but the major problems rest with the ultra-corrupt, ultra-inept government and it’s overwhelming bureaucracy.

One thing I have recognized however is that the humble, laid-back lifestyle is coming to an end in Brazil. The stress associated with rampant crime and an emerging collective consciousness that prizes physical beauty and money above all else has made Brazil a climactic alternative to the United States but many of the things people find so detestable about America are increasingly present in Brazil. Take a trip to the local shopping mall and see Brazilians spending like there is no tomorrow. Plastic surgery for 15-year-old girls and a culture that suffers from deep-seated racism no matter what many would have you believe. I challenge you to drive around any major city and find a billboard sporting a black model. Whites and black mixing is still viewed with suspicion. I dated a black Paulista and the stern looks we received were much more severe than anything I would expect in the US despite our rep**ations as clansmen!! Think about it critically and objectively, and certainly don’t take Robin’s word for it, as she is just re-visiting.

If you really want an affordable lifestyle in a beautiful city with much, much less crime come to Buenos Aires. I have been here 8 months (5th time in the country) after having bought an apartment and find it an excellent alternative to anyplace in Brazil! My Brazilian wife loves it here and as any Brazilian can tell you Brazilians are not terribly fond of Argentines.

My friend's Dad just retired to Bahia after receiving his retirement Visa from the Brazilian Consulate and he LOVES Bahia. He retired two years ago and was living in Bahia but as an American without permanent residency status in Brazil he had to return to the United States every six months. I don't know why folks on this message board are trying to damn Brazil and folks who want to move or retire there. I myself am seeking to retire to Bahia and I've been there and fell in love with it in 2003. Bahia may have it's problems but it certainly beats living the the United States and paying exorbitant prices for everything. Also, a lot of African Americans are moving to Bahia and really love the dynamic African culture that is still alive in Bahia as opposed to the United States. I as an African American wouldn't want to live in Argentina as there is no Black presence there.

yeah, I visit Salvador 3 times a month, and see the groups of black americans that think they're "coming back to their heritage" by travelling to Bahia. The negro bahians laugh at you!! If you want to "get in touch" with your culture, go back to Africa, not to Bahia!! And I don't see anyone "damning" brazil here, only speaking from their personal experiences and the reality that exists!! Wait until you LIVE there for 5+ years, then get back with me!

"whites can't run from jewish/zionist talmudic oppression!!"



GOTCHA ADOLF!

Because you are African American (or black as most people without hypersensitivity to race and color still refer to the actual color of your skin), you probably had an entirely different experience than us European Americans (or whites) as we are more commonly known. (Sorry I have never nor will I ever refer to someone as African American until blacks recognize me as European American - it's all so ridiculous - but I digress).

Your experience was much more agreeable for you as Salvador has an overwhelmingly black population and the not-so-subtle racism felt by whites in Salvador makes for an altogether unpleasant time for us. Yes I know that must seem preposterous to you but I have honestly only met one or two white people who really enjoyed themelves in Bahia. I personally found Salvador to be one of the most horrible cities on earth with some of the most unfriendly, racist people I ever saw. I can already read your mind - "I must be with the Clan" or "You must be a racist yourself in order to evoke that response from them", etc, etc. The funny thing is that I spent most of my time there hanging out with a black (or African-European) guy from Switzerland who had only recently migrated there from Tanzania. HE thought the people in Bahia were boorish and racist himself. He also commented that they were the most unfriendly people he had ever met - and that included the ultra-friendly Serbians and Macedonians that now inhabit his adopted town in Switzerland.

I went to Bahia with every intention of enjoying myself while immersing myself in the African culture - funny thing, all I found were hostile blacks who looked at me like I was trespassing on their turf yet weren't to proud to beg for money every 30 seconds (AND THAT IS NO EXAGGERATION!!) People who have been to Bahia back me up here. Has anyone been panhandled anywhere else in the world like they have in Salvador? Otherwise the caphoeira was about the only redeeming thing.

The last poster was right - go there and live for 5 years before you rush to judgement on Salvador. I think you could be unpleasantly disappointed over time. I hate to admit it but the blacks in Salvador generally do laugh at you behind your backs or only pretend to make a connection right before hitting you up for 5 reais. . . I have to ask - what is dynamic about the culture in Bahia? - is it the stagnant economy, crushing poverty or rampant crime that intrigued you so much? I think black culture is as alive in America as anywhere as a matter of fact. Personally rappers and the glamorized thug life make me want to puke, but punk white kids from sea to shining sea want to be gangster rappers and wear diamond encrusted dollar signs while rolling in an Escalade. Or isn't that something that appeals to you . . . ?

By the way my black friend Gary from the UK absolutely loved Buenos Aires (so much that his intended stay of 2 weeks turned into 5 months) as the Argentinian people went out of their way to connect with him precisely because they have so little African influence there and were genuinely interested in his experiences. I would say that is a good thing in any culture. . .

I went to Salvador for my honeymoon; my first real trip in Brazil now after many years and many travels within Brazil, Salvador carries my worst experience. I found Salvador
to be one the best tourist organized city, however I was never able to shake the panhandlers, they followed my wife (Brazilian) and I around from a short distance and with every opportunity asked over and over for Dollars, in every case I had to give a few reais to get rid of them.
In a packed Lacerda elevator I was accosted by an angry panhandler because I said não to his request for dollars, he went in a rage, my wife tried to defend me saying I was not a typical Gringo, that I live here, he said all gringos have dollars and should give!!
I would have appreciated the situation more if he would have robbed me at gun point, than caused a violent verbal attack in a crowded elevator.
I loved the food, culture and the uniqueness of the city and its history and I would love to return someday, however it is last on my list, because of the abuse to tourists and the general uncomfortable “feeling in the air” that I felt, it is the worst I have experienced in any city in Brazil to date.
Other than my uncomfortable experience, I can not imagine from what I know at this point why any retiree would want to retire in Bahia or at least a typical retiree for that
fact perhaps it is a “Macumba loving colored gringos dream” or perhaps it makes a low income Gringo feel more powerful in a low income state? There are better states, cities in Brazil to retire in, why Bahia???? And if you are black why would you be more comfortable in Bahia? Brazil is full of black people!

Because you are African American (or black as most people without hypersensitivity to race and color still refer to the actual color of your skin), you probably had an entirely different experience than us European Americans (or whites) as we are more commonly known. (Sorry I have never nor will I ever refer to someone as African American until blacks recognize me as European American - it's all so ridiculous - but I digress).

Your experience was much more agreeable for you as Salvador has an overwhelmingly black population and the not-so-subtle racism felt by whites in Salvador makes for an altogether unpleasant time for us. Yes I know that must seem preposterous to you but I have honestly only met one or two white people who really enjoyed themelves in Bahia. I personally found Salvador to be one of the most horrible cities on earth with some of the most unfriendly, racist people I ever saw. I can already read your mind - "I must be with the Clan" or "You must be a racist yourself in order to evoke that response from them", etc, etc. The funny thing is that I spent most of my time there hanging out with a black (or African-European) guy from Switzerland who had only recently migrated there from Tanzania. HE thought the people in Bahia were boorish and racist himself. He also commented that they were the most unfriendly people he had ever met - and that included the ultra-friendly Serbians and Macedonians that now inhabit his adopted town in Switzerland.

I went to Bahia with every intention of enjoying myself while immersing myself in the African culture - funny thing, all I found was hostile people who looked at me like I was trespassing on their turf yet weren't to proud to beg for money every 30 seconds (AND THAT IS NO EXAGGERATION!!) People who have been to Bahia back me up here. Has anyone been panhandled anywhere else in the world like they have in Salvador? Otherwise the caphoeira was about the only redeeming thing.

The last poster was right - go there and live for 5 years before you rush to judgement on Salvador. I think you could be unpleasantly disappointed over time. I hate to admit it but the blacks in Salvador generally do laugh at you behind your backs or only pretend to make a connection right before hitting you up for 5 Reais. . . I have to ask - what is so dynamic about the culture in Bahia? - is it the stagnant economy, crushing poverty or rampant crime that intrigued you so much? I think black culture is as alive in America as anywhere as a matter of fact. Personally rappers and the glamorized thug life make me want to puke, but punk white kids from sea to shining sea want to be gangster rappers and wear diamond encrusted dollar signs while rolling in an Escalade. Or isn't that something that appeals to you . . . ?

By the way my black friend Gary from the UK absolutely loved Buenos Aires (so much that his intended stay of 2 weeks turned into 5 months) as the Argentinian people went out of their way to connect with him precisely because they have so little African influence there and were genuinely interested in his experiences. I would say that is a good thing in any culture. . .

i dont think we or bahians are that unfriendly, but you are entitled to have opinion . though why you spend hours writing about it on this site i dont understand.

Why did you comment? Goes without saying that no one thinks they are unfriendly, an outside opinion is of
value even to the one offended.
Bahians for the most part are probably
as a friendly as any one, but then again not all are! Your comment does not really show enthusiastic support for Bahians in General, it would not hurt if you spent a little time supporting your comment for those who are interested in the subject at hand. Since you seem to live there why do you give your two cents and tell why us why you moved there and why other foreigners wouldor should?

I agree with your general presentation about Brazil, espescially about racism, and the lack of Black models, but I find your assertion about Bahia a bit too general. I AM AN AFRICAN AMERICAN, (the reason we use that term is not to put whites or anyone down but to identify ourselves with the part of the world we came from) Having been to Bahia several times, I find the people of Bahia to be extremely nice and open. I frankly did not receive any hostile treatment except from some people who were shocked to see a Black person in a luxurious car, or some of the folks staying at the Pestana where I stayed. As for begging, please, you find that all over the world including downtown Los Angeles. As for relocating to Brazil, sorry, until the country revamps its corrupt police system where the poor can be killed without fear of retribution, and pass civil rights laws that ban racial discrimination, I will stay in the greatest country on earth, the United States of America,God Bless America.

As for begging, please, you find that all over the world including downtown Los Angeles

What you say is a fact!
However, being followed singled out and being intimidated to give money, especially and specifically dollars is a whole new ball game!

Similar but more violent situations on the beaches of Rio have been shown on local TV here, interesting to see a man and wife, white in color, German tourist running for their lives on the beach, then being mobbed by a dozen teenage kids in broad daylight on copacabana beach.
Anyone who says Salvador or Rio is like everywhere else has not lived in Brazil long enough to see the day to day routine!

300 km's north of Salvador and travel to salvador EVERY month, sometimes 3 times a month. ANYONE that says people begging for money in the states even enters the same reality here in Brazil does not know what to hell he's talking about!! I should know after living here 6 years. You can't do ANYTHING without people asking you for money. And this isn't only in the big cities, I live in a small city, and at nearly ever stop light you have people, normally children, at times as young as 4 years old in the street begging for money. They even come into the malls!

Now please, I know there is begging in big cities in the states....but it's not even close to the numbers and frequency of which occurs here. But that's to be expected in a country where 30+% of the population make less than 2 dollars a day!

I just love when someone says something negative about Brazil someone has to shoot back with something negative about the states. They couldn't be more different, they are completely different REALITIES. Americans should pray to god every single night and thank him for having the priviledge of being born there!

The article is rather too rosy. Actually, I think much of the author's magazine (www.escapeartist.com) sounds way too rosy. It's amazing how few things go wrong in the stories told therein...

Having said that, I know quite a few foreigners (Europeans, mostly) living in Brazil. Many lead happy lives, have accomplished stuff, etc. I even know a Portuguese man who went from the proverbial rags to riches -- from locksmithing in the street as a 14-year-old after arriving from Portugal to owner of a pretty robust business.

I found the African-American's post pretty sobering in that racial discrimination struck him so quickly. Anti-racism laws do exist in Brazil, but the country's "soft" racism is alive and well under its radar.

... the author is pipe-dreaming. Brazil has one of the most hostile business environments on earth (for hard data, see www.doingbusiness.org).While some individual expats and companies could certainly make it big (Santander Hispano and Telefónica come to mind), America certainly beats Brazil in this department. The southern younglings will continue going north, rather than the other way round.

I lived in Sao Jose dos Campos, Brazil for four years as an employee of a Brazilian company. My salary was about 42% of what it had been in the US. I received no raises during the period leaving at the same salary.

Health care was provided by a health care network identified by the company. There was no insurance company involved. When I had hernia surgery near the end of my last contract, I was told that it would be covered by prearranged medical fees and a 90% hospital reimbursement but when it cam time to reimburse, I was told the company had changed its mind and had decided not to reimburse despite the fact that had given me authorization in writing two months before the surgery took place.

They then gave me 30 days to leave the country or my severance package would turn into a pumpkin. A lady in Human Resources told me that the company felt secure in that I would not be able to purse a claim in court since the time to process a claim is now running about two years. The attorneys want money up front– there are no contingency cases plus they want a contingency cut I they win so they can’t lose but you can.

Cost of living? Our own HR department estimated that Sao Jose dos Campos is about 95% the cost of Phoenix, overall. Food and clothing from the street markets is cheap. Everything else is more expensive than in the US: cars, real estate, insurance, gas, etc. Combine that with a salary that is 58% lower and your standard of living ain’t nuthin to write home about.

Crime? You bet. I ‘ve stepped over dead bodies lying on the sidewalk on Sunday morning, I’ve had friends murdered (and I didn’t have that many to begin with) I‘ve never gone anywhere without being panhandled. My apartment was invaded by several gun-wielding bandits who got the drop on the doorman and then forced my maid and her son who were just arriving to lay face down on the floor in the lobby, while they cruised through the building looking potential kidnap victims (thank God I was still at work). The police arrived the next day to take a report. No one was ever arrested or charged but often the police provide protection for a piece of the action, which might or might not have been the case here.

Brazil has some of the best geography on the face of the earth and there are some Brazilians who are open and friendly but they are in the minority. From my own experience, since my job required that I travel, I found the poorer and person and the smaller the town both correlated favorably to producing a favorable experience. I always went out of my way to try to treat everyone I met with the utmost degree of politeness and respect. Anyway if worked for me. I avoided big cities as if the they carried the plague. I had to go to Sao Paulo and Rio at times but kept those visits a brief as possible.

I had a car but didn’t drive it except locally or in rural areas. Never to the big cities. During those instances, I preferred to hire a cab which allowed me to keep a lower profile and not have to deal with the maze of poorly marked city streets. On a couple of occasions when it was necessary for me to drive, I used a combination of a street map and a hand-held GPS so I would at least have some idea as to where I was, even if it was only approximately. The proliferation of one-way streets ensure that you will not be able to return on the same route.

Brazilian drivers were the worst I had ever encountered in terms of generally ignoring traffic regulations. Those same drivers would have probably felt right at home if they had inadvertently ended up on a demolition derby tract, probably not even noticing the difference (I’m being factious, but just a little).

My advice to any potential emigree is to consider smaller town and to avoid tourist destinations. Get a license so that you can legally buy and keep a gun at home. Hire a full-time live in housekeeper/gardener, so that you can leave home once in a while without coming back to find that you’ve been cleaned out. Alarms are a waste of money here; however owning several very large unsocialized dogs could be a real plus. Surround yourself with an electrified fence is a practical idea.

Consider a non-descriptive car but with armor plate and run-flat tires (it will double the cost of the car but it will add tremendously, especially if you have a family. at you find you must travel to places you’d really prefer not to visit. Never leave home without a cell phone either and always tell someone you trust where you’re going, the time you expect to arrive and the time you think you’ll return. Fill the tank before you leave. Use a neighborhood gas station and make an effort to be on good terms with the pump jockeys (buy them all Christmas presents for instance). Car insurance runs about 10% of the car on an annual basis. Buy full coverage but don’t expect that same level of coverage as you would in the US. If you’re stopped by the police they ‘will’ find something wrong with your car. There first words are not, “May I see your driver’s license and registration?” but are “Do you have any money?” Usually R$100.00 or so will resolve your “problem.”

No one trusts anyone, so expect that you will have to “prove” everything. For example if you move, and want to tell your bank that you have a new address that will require some ‘official document’ such as a new utility bill before they will make the change (unless you “know” someone at the bank).

Brazilians for the most part consider themselves well informed in many areas in which if it were not for misinformation, they would have no information at all. For its entertainment value, ask a particular talkative Brazilian to comment on international affairs, monetary policy, politics or Brazilian history. If you have some knowledge of the topic being discussed you’ll have a hard time just keeping a straight face. And these are not the poor and wretched from the favelas but graduates from local universities. I found the amount of ignorance among the “educated classes” to be absolutely it amazing.

College grads for example who do not know the number of states in the country, the name of the current governor, etc. Basically many don’t even know what an elementary students knows in the US. It’s so sad it’s funny. But wait till some one who has been to Disney World for a week or two begins to tell you what’s wrong with America. Not that there aren’t plenty of things that could be mentioned, as were far from perfect but invariably what you hear is straight from a old Fidel Castro diatribe. You know what they say: If you repeat a untruth often enough, soon everyone will believe it. For example, you will soon learn that the US has already annexed the Amazon as the fifty first state along with other assorted bull s**t.

Get used to lying and being lied to. You’ll be cheated on almost any transaction you can imagine. When the business people are caught in the act they are not even embarrassed in the slightest. They’ll just give you a big grin and say “deculpe-me”. Based on my own experiences, I would estimate that many bars and restaurants add another 10 to 20% in profits this way.

Despatches are fixers who for a price can help you avoid the red tape and do things with the government that you could not do on your own because what you want to do is illegal. I’ve been told by other Brazilians that up to 60% pf government business is conducted in this ‘jetinho’ manner.

Food is bland and there is very little variety. Usually there is no pepper shaker ion the table so that should give you a clue. Most food fall into three categories: 1 Italian, 2. Brazilian barbeque or 3. Bean and rice variations, with the latter predominating the first two. It’s great if you can live without eating beans and rice three times a day otherwise you may find that the local menus leave a lot to be desired. For the most part, the quality of food is not up to what would be considered minimum American standards. Quite often you will find foreign objects in the food such as small rocks in rice or dried tomatoes. So be careful when you bite into anything. There is not much pride taken in the preparation or serving so if you don’t expect it you won’t be disappointed.

The main problem with Brazil is the large number (but fortunately not all, remember what I said about poor people and small towns) of Brazilian who feel that their main purpose in life is to bust your balls. Unfortunately, the ass holes seem to predominate so you can never really let your guard down.

My best advice is to find a location that appeals to you aesthetically and then buy enough land to insulate yourself from the stupid things that your neighbors are likely to do. Find some Brazilian friends that you can tolerate ( it may require some looking) and then treat them like gold.

is right on the money!! What I want to know is why many brazilians when you talk to them about these experiences they respond as if you've just had "bad luck", lol. Why is it that time after time I hear the exact same experiences from most all foreigners, especially americans, that come to brazil to live?

I just recently, on Feb. 1st, had a close friend come up "missing". The police found his truck torched in the middle of the highway 2 weeks ago, there have been no ransom demands, he has more than likely been murdered. If so, this will be my 2nd friend in 4 years. The first happening 4 years ago to an american that had been living here 27 years when he arrived at home to find 5 thieves in his house and his son tied up. They quickly shot him 3 times, once in the middle of the forehead, once in the chest and once in the gut.

Driving, once again, the above poster is "spot-on". WHEN you get pulled over, because you will, they have frequent blockades or checkpoints in which the federal and local police stop cars at random to check and see that all their documents are "in order", if everything is not 100%, they'll even check to see that the fire extinguisher that is in all cars in brazil is not over the expiration date, which is good for one year, you'll then go through a process where they appear to be giving you a ticket. When they see that you have no problem with this then normally you'll always have the officer stop writing the ticket and say, "vamso resolve isso com amizade"(let's resolve this with "friendship") in other words, he's asking for a bribe.

If you plan to travel any distance whatsoever, DO NOT TRAVEL AT NIGHT!! There are animals that stray into the roads frequently, there are robberies, they put trees in the middle of the road where you must stop and once stopped men appear with guns, this is most likely what happened to my friend and few weeks back in the state of Pernambuco. You'll be travelling on a stretch of road that is "good" so everyone is driving 60-80 mph, then without warning you come to a stretch in the road(2km's until 20 km's) of road that if FULL of HUGE potholes, potholes that severely damage your car. I just got back from the south of bahia, a 900 km trip and busted 2 tires, bent 2 wheels, and one pothole was so big that the radiator was pushed up and now the hood is not closing correctly. At the end of the day it will cost me over 1,000 dollars (2,200 reais) to fix everything.

Did you know that the city with the most bullet-proof glass sold and installed in the world is Sao Paulo Brazil?

You'll be ran off the road by huge 18 wheelers that are in your lane and when they pass you they're honking their horns and gesturing to you like you're in their lane!

Food, they're are many excellent restaurants, especially in the larger cities, but what you have to be careful of is cleanliness!! My 2nd year here I contracted hepatitis and was sick for 8 months and lost 35 pounds. I'm currently sick and have diarrhea once again after going to a "churrasco" last night and it was obvious that they were simply "reheating" the meat that was prepared 8-9 hours earlier for lunch, I ate very little after seeing much of the meat had a "gray" color, but in all likelihood was from the potato salad that I'm certain was never refrigerated, imagine, making a mayonaise dish and leaving it "sit out", food poisoning in a dish! But many and most don't do this out of "maldade", bad intentions, they do it out of ignorance, they simply don't know any better! I had diarreah here my first 6 weeks more often than I had in 34 years in the U.S. Tap water is undrinkable and can be dangerous if drank, so imagine, you're bathing and washing your food in this same water that is unsafe to drink! Yet another brazilian paradox as many will tell you that america will invade brazil for it's agua doce(fresh water), which it has the highest pctg. on earth, 10%, but you can't drink it out of the tap! As one of the above posters mentioned, when you live in anyplace where there are significant problems in education, you have all the problems that go along with that, and they permeate every single facet of everyday life.

You have to love some people that attempt and paint places like brazil as some tropical paradise. The land of "milk and honey" and beautiful women everywhere, just sit back and sip your caipirinha and look at the beautiful sunset over the backdrop of pao de açucar, sugarload mountain. Until the poor from the favellas arrive on the "tourist" beaches of copacabana or Ipanema and start attacking and robbing the tourists.Or dealing with the people either begging for money or trying to sell anything and everything, you CAN NOT relax, they won't allow you. Or the thousands upon thousands of prostitutes in every city, that when they see you're a gringo, you're a target, and if you decide to indulge, be careful, because it can be a robbery in the making. You can't even make it to your hotel these days, they're waiting for you at the airport, did you hear about the bus of 33 Brits that got hijacked on the route from their airport to their hotel?? Took everything except their underwear, lol.....Bem Vindo Ao Brasil!!!

I agree with the two previous posts! You really have to live here in Brazil to appreciate how different it is. Many Brazilians do not like the way it is here, but do not openly complain about it for the most part depressing talk only depresses. Why depress your self when there is virtually no escape in your lifetime from the mess here.

The success to being able to live here is to become like a Brazilian. Complain as much as
possible about the United States while avoiding talking about how bad Brazil is, because lets face it nothing is going to change here. Maintain your negative energy on Argentineans, North American and the like, while having an ear to ear grin, bursting in happiness, dancing and singing because Brazil is so great! Alegria!!!

Yes Brazil is full of happy, smiling people, beautiful people, but this is psychological
maintenance to an otherwise hopeless situation. The first few months an American, Mexican, or any other foreigner moves to Brazil he/she is in heaven. Then as one begins
to see how Brazil really operates, the school of reality takes over.

You might say to yourself it is amazing how Blacks and Whites get along so well here, while in the U.S, there is so much discrimination. As time passes you realize that most black people here individually make if lucky $100.00 a month, this being so a black family needs to be a minimum of 6 people in one shanty to survive day to day. If you took a black Brazilain and sent him to the U.S. and if he only lived off of social assistance he would be living like the middle class in Brazil do. The only social assistance here is panhandling.

Amazingly if you live here you will meet some of the happiest black people in the world, never complaining about their situation always happy and dancing full of “Alegria”.
The poorer you are the more “Alegria” A flip side comparison to whining, materialistic,
discriminating Americans who never seem to get enough, have enough and are fat and ugly.

It is great to be white here in Brazil with so many non white people, so happy to
clean your home, tend your garden, cook your meals, hand wash and iron your clothes never complaining type people!
As a white American I have found this hard to get used to from the get go, but as I become more Brazilian I find this to be my right, I no longer feel guilty when I pay
the UNEDUCATED maid her $20.00 for a 8 hours of weekly work that she does in one day. Or the $200.00 for the full time UNEDUCATED maid who works for a relative in the countryside, actually they are making a little bit more than they were 6 years ago and they got a job! What a pity they will never own a car in their lifetime. Alegria!

There are some very educated and well informed people posting on this subject.

I agree with the majority of the posters having lived here in Bahia on and off for 1 year it is a terrible god awfull s**t hole and I cant wait to get back to the fresh air of Europe.

You'll be travelling on a stretch of road that is "good" so everyone is driving 60-80 mph, then without warning you come to a stretch in the road(2km's until 20 km's) of road that if FULL of HUGE potholes, potholes that severely damage your car.

I have had the same experience, this is an understatement, I have seen sink holes that elephants could hide in, normally the truck drivers cut a tree from the roadside to stick in the holes as a marker. Just because you see a 6ft tree sticking out of the middle of the road from a distance does not mean it’s a bandit roadblock and you are going to be robbed, it is there to save your life!
However if you take the 500km stretch of the Anhanguera from Sao Paulo to just across the border into Uberaba, Minas Gerais, be happy to drive 120kph + on a highway of glass! But then again there are 8 toll booths going and 5 returning, around a total cost of R$75.00

Roni Biggs (famous english train robber) once lived in brazil after living a long time in rio he became sick as most people do later in life. given the choise of brazilian hospitals or an english prison. he picked prision. i think that says it all dont you?

Why are you driving a car in Brazil ? The public transport system is very good. The national coach services are excellent and there's always Gol. If you go to anywhere and be American you won't get on with the place. Try fitting in and acting more like a Brazilian. When in Rome springs to mind. What's the point of an electric fence ? Put a barrier there and people will try to break it down. Try apartment living, but in a middle class district. I spend a lot of time in Brazil working for an NGO in a favela. I've never been robbed, though of course I've heard gun fire. Brazil can be whatever you want it to be. It's not perfect, but where is ? Brazil has plenty of redeeming features. Whilst there are lots of Brazil ex-pats they aren't all rushing for the exit. And Brazil is not so bad that there's a mass Brazilian movement for improving the country. Are they actually that bothered ?

I visit Brazil at least 3 times a year. I , and American, do plan to retire here. Since
I am already in my mid 30s and have not started a serious retirement plan, I know
that trying to live 30 years after working in the US is not going to be easy (or possible for some).
So my plan is to retire in Brazil after my career in the legal profession.
Each year I make more and more contacts with Brazilians to ease my transition.

. . . then after I visit Brazil for the 3rd time I fly off to Candyland on my Purple Unicorn and we sip tea with the Lilliputians and talk about more of our fantastic plans for the future because we made evermore contacts with the Brazilians who will ease my transition into self-delusion and misfortune!! Sounds like a great plan. Since you have not started a serious retirement plan it appears you are well on your way to a comfortable life in Brazil - Good Luck!! After all you can buy 10,000 kilos of oranges for 2 Reais and everyone lived happily ever after . . .

LOL...well, because I have one?? And when you want to travel to cities where there are not even airports you must take somekind of transportation there, at a minimum a bus. Once again, another brazilian paradox, you can have a car but it's just not smart to travel in it!!! As one above poster mentioned, the only roads here that are worth a s**t are privately paid for, by toll roads!! Where is all this tax money going to that I pay not only when I purchase my car, but every year when I have to renew the registration??? Where is all this money going in fines??? Not only that, but I enjoy driving, and if I feel like pulling off in some small little city and passing the afternoon I would like to have that option....is that too much to ask? Obviously so.

Within the last couple months in the state of Minas Gerais there was a tiny bridge that collapsed, no longer than 40 meters long, I believe shorter. The situation was causing huge problems for the farmers in the area as the trucks could not make it to their farms. The farmers in the area chipped in and paid for a bridge....with their own money!! And afterwards started charging cars and others 5 reais a piece for crossing the bridge, to recoup their money. Since, the federal gov't. has declared that the farmers have acted illegally in charging a "toll". LOL!!! What were they supposed to do??

It's incredible how only people who have never lived in Brazil for an extended period of time imagine Brazil being such a wonderful place to live. I've lived in Brazil for a number of years,and I can say from experience that this article is incredibly misleading. Brazil is not cheap!!! Nor is it safe or even friendly. Someone is always there searching for an opportunity to take advantage of the "gringo". The bureaucracy is overwhelming. Just try to start a business in Brazil. You'll see what I mean. And please, I really don't want to hear another "the crime isn't any worse than any large city in the US"....bull crap!!!!!! It is far, far worse...an entirely different league of crime (Brazil had over 50,000 murders last year to the US' 16,400, even though the US has 150 million more people). Yes, Brazil may be worth visiting once or twice, but living here is anything but "paraiso".

When you better get a Ph.D. in CYA....covering your ass!!! Because if you're not familiar with the "jetinhos" here you'll be calling the Embassy trying to get a seat on the next military airplane back to the states because you don't have the cash for a ticket!

To all the potential "I want to retire in Brazil" idiots...you might want to take a look at Brazilian tax laws on foreign pensions and retirement distributions. Besides the free-falling dollar, you're also going to have to dish out a nice chunk to your friends in Brasilia.

Buddy, I've been here since 2000 and my partners and myself have invested 2,000,000 dollars in the last 18 months. I can sit and tell stories for HOURS!!!

On a conference call around 6 months ago with my partners one said, "bud, normally people take dirty money and launder it, we're taking clean money and making it dirty!!" And that's exactly what one must do to invest money here in Brazil. You'll find yourself participating in fraud quicker than Carl Lewis runs 100 meters. And one MUST do this because you're never going to buy a piece of land or real estate with any type of value and receive a title with the REAL value.....NEVER. And any company, pessoa juridica, that is making a foreign investment, investimento do estrangeiro no brasil, MUST justify each and every centavo that LEAVES his pessoa juridica. So when one buys a piece of real estate for 500,000 reais but receives a title for 100,000, how does one justify the other 400,000? Well, you then have to BUY a "nota fiscal" or legal receipt. So the corrupt, illegal, and immoral business practices that are normal everyday business here, CREATES an expense for you and you've done nothing wrong. The receipt you'll have to purchase will be at least 5% of the value of the receipt. Do you think the seller compensates you for this???? LMAO!!! Corruption and immoral attitudes are a part of everyday life here. The way they see it, and I can understand, the gov't. screws us, so we'll screw them....now how are things ever going to change?

The above posts are absolutely accurate. Simply put, if you can't make it in the US or Europe, you won't make it in Brazil. Brazil is no escape...you'll end up actually trying to escape from it.

Why Americans Should Move to Brazil.

Well, as a few of my brazilian buddies say, the only things that are worth anything here in brazil are the women, fruits, and the weather(in the northeast). Other than that, I could write a book on "Reasons to stay away from Brazil". And a foreign woman coming here to Brazil to live...what a nightmare. I like brasileiros, but I sure as hell wouldn't want them dating my mother, sister or daughter!!! They have to be amongst the most "safado" men on the planet. 99.9% of the ones I know if married have girlfriend(s). And the ones that have steady girlfriends have others as well. Why do you think people are so jealous here, brazilian women know well about the safadeza of brazilian men, and of course their cheating with someone, so the men are jealous of the women. I've never seen a place where their is so much infidelity. Monogamy is certainly not valued here by most, and this in the country with the largest catholic population in the world!

I AM NOT IDIOT TO DO IT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a master slave mentality here, probably something left over from the Portuguese of old, you better get use to being one or the other. The family unit is tighter here than in the U.S. but in my opinion it is only because the economy forces it, however it is an improvement. You do not see people leaving home at 18-21 years old. Marital fidelity is optional, the ones who can afford to have girlfriends and the smart “girlfriends” make written contracts.

If you pay your taxes and go through proper Government channels for everything, you will be known as a dumbass Gringo. If you F_ck the government out of its due or pay someone to do the bureaucratic necessities it will be done faster and cheaper and you will be know as a Smart Gringo. If it is needed to pay off someone, do so without hesitation otherwise you will regret the alternative.

If you throw your trash on the street you will be like everyone else, if you throw your trash in a waste basket no one notices your sacrifice. Spitting on the side walk is okay.
Adjusting your dick in your underwear in public is manly. When you stand in a line get as close to the person in front of you, occasionally hitting that person with your shoulders as you talk to the person behind you. If there is a gap between two people standing in line
and you are able to fit in between them feel free to take that spot.

Right of way for people walking on a sidewalk does not exist, you move over or they run into you. In the supermarket park your cart always in the middle of the isle, while you select something from the shelf. Stockers in the supermarket stock during the daytime, you are in there way!, so if you are hit by a box or your foot is run over by their cart they will give you the evil look. After you unload your cart or hand basket at the check out, it is the person behind you who is now responsible to move it.

If coming to Brazil it is better to empty your head of all etiquette, it does not work here.
When a woman passes on the street you are required to turn your head around and stare at her ass for a minimum of 30 seconds, if standing you can stare until she is out of sight. Entering/exiting buildings, trains and the like the one who is exiting does not necessarily have right of away. People in apartment buildings have dogs, dogs s**t on the sidewalk every morning like clockwork, all the streets are carpeted with fresh turds, if you can Samba no problem, if you cant you will be cleaning your shoes in the running water along side the curb.
If these trifle things do not bother you, then you are going to really enjoy it here!

I'm trying to determine whether the author of this article is on crack, or is simply looking for self promotion through mis-information at the expense of a bunch of naive american idiots. Probably a combination of the two.

Robin Sparks has traveled to over 23 countries in seven years in search of the perfect expat haven.

Make this one #24 and still searching..

Off the top of my head the Grand Cayman
Islands might be a better heaven, at least they speak English there?

The trade between the 2 countries is not as high as you many read or think.

Between the 2 countries the trade is around ONE FIFTH of the trade between the USA and China.

Despite Brazil has a trade surplus with China, they restrict some of China exports to Brazil.
Brazil has never been a trading partner with reciprocity and fairness. They just love to...export, nothing else !

Other wrong ideas you read here and there and almost everywhere is the country with the highest number of cattles ! It is not Brazil but....CHINA ! Brazil is "only" the world biggest EXPORTER. And their biggest cattles export is RUSSIA !

ON the grains production, China produces around 500 millions tons, but need around 520 million tons. Dont believe one second that Chinese grains production will not grow.
Overtime they will import less.
No one remmbers, but China was a net exporter of grains...not so long ago !

Finally on residing in Brazil, it quite amusing that it becomes fashionable, ONE MORE TIME.
This trend is quite regular on every booming brazilian economic cycle and is forgotten when the economy goes down.

Afterall the brazilian economy has been called a BOOM AND BUST economy.
Then after a boom there should be a bust...by definition !

Everyone who believe that this country is on a sustainable growth has 95 % chance of being wrong.

On every past booming economy, brazilians said this time is the good one.
Well, everytime they were wrong !
At every peak, obviously, they had 20 good reasons to explain why "this time" was different. But one simple hidden reason proved them wrong everytime : MISMANAGEMENT !!!!!!

AND FOR THE TIME BEING NO ONE CAN SAY THEY MANAGED PROPERLY THEIR ECONOMY.

Although they reduced their foreign debts, they replaced it by issuing far more LOCAL debts. They increased their local currency debts by a stunning 21 % IN ONE SINGLE YEAR
(2005) and at a far higher interest rate than the one they BOUGHT BACK !!!.
NOT A GOOD MANAGEMENT, BUT SIMPLY AN
AUTOGOAL !!!!

FINALLY the average interests rates of 29 % iIS DEAD WRONG DESPITE THE ARTICLE THAT PUBLISHED THIS NUMBER. kNOWING THAT BRAZILIAN STATISTICS ARE TRUNKED AND MANIPUILATED HERE ARE THE REAL ONES :

on February 1st 2005, the average lending rate on personal loans to individual customers was at 5.41% per month, down from 5.42% p.m. a month earlier. This was a cut of just 0.19%! Of the ten banks surveyed, HSBC cut from 4.97% to 4.91% p.m. and Banco do Brasil from 4.85% to 4.80% per month.
The average overdraft interest rate meanwhile in the same comparison fell from 8.31% per month to 8.28% per month, a drop of just 0.36%. HSBC cut its average rate on this credit modality from 8.47% to 8.37% p.m., Banespa from 8.50% to 8.40% p.m. and Banco do Brasil from 8.03% to 7.99% p.m.

QUITE A DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT ARE THE GOVERNMENT NUMBERS!

Between the 2 countries the trade is around ONE FIFTH of the trade between the USA and BRAZIL.......not China !

I'm thinking about moving to brazil . can I find work

If you go to the state of Alagoas they have jobs galore!!!! Are you willing to work 60-80 hours per week in 95 degree F weather and cut sugar cane for $140 US a month?

I'm thinking about moving to brazil . can I find work

Most gringos end up teaching English/German/Italian etc. and after gaining enough experiance with Portuguese do translations.
It can take a few months to a few
years before or perhaps never to equal
a similar lifestyle that you once had. If you are from another 3rd world country it actually be a better social improvemnt.

Most gringos end up teaching English/German/Italian etc. and after gaining enough experience with Portuguese do translations (which sucks). It can take a few months to a few years before or perhaps never to equal a similar lifestyle that you once had. If you are from another 3rd world country it actually might be a better social improvement.
If you are from a first world country, you better bring lots of dollars or Euros with you.
(If I knew I was going to be here this long I would have brought more money!)

You can also harvest sugarcane as the last poster suggested, probably one of the worst jobs on the planet, but it will turn a child into a man quickly!

Prostitution is another possibility, if you are a woman and you better look better than a Brazilian woman, you can make the same as an English Teacher or more! If you are from Brokeback Mountain the same as above applies.

Other than that I have not yet personally met a Gringo who works for a Brazilian Company in the last 6 years which is a resident here. If there any of you out there give the rest of us some advice or let us know you exist!!

You might ask your self if you are professional, why would a Brazilian company hire me? Especially if you do not know the “Jeito” and you can not speak a word of Portuguese and still do not what the Capitol of Brazil is?
If you by accident speak Portuguese or Spanish then you might have some value,
then try Job Boards, send your CV to potential Companies here in Brazil. And above all else if someone offers you job from here be skeptical, most often here what seems to be a promise is only politeness. Remember the check is in the mail and I won’t stick it in all the way?

Brazilians for the most part consider themselves well informed in many areas in which if it were not for misinformation, they would have no information at all. For its entertainment value, ask a particular talkative Brazilian to comment on international affairs, monetary policy, politics or Brazilian history. If you have some knowledge of the topic being discussed you’ll have a hard time just keeping a straight face. And these are not the poor and wretched from the favelas but graduates from local universities. I found the amount of ignorance among the “educated classes” to be absolutely it amazing.

For its entertainment value, you might try asking the same to Americans. :roll

I have visited Brazil several times, and like every other place I have been, it is not perfect. Some of you guys should travel to some other countries like Morrocco, where the people claim that all are equal under the Law, and under Islam, but thare is widespread discrimination against people with Black skin, or visit South Korea, where everyone believes it is their God Given right to cheat you. At least in Brazil, you get to enjoy great weather, f**k women of your dreams and generally have a good time.

only been there on holiday last year . i had a good time, met some very friendly cariocas( also on holiday) and have good memories. i dont think it is great idea to go and live there as most people are poor and many are jelous of tourists . i think robin sparks makes it sound too good but also dont think they are most unfriendly people on the earth. i have never been to united states but judging from comments made on this sites many seem like a real cunts though and not so friendly either.this does not include you, so no offence. i hope i dont become addicted to this like you obviously have become. serbian x

i have never been to united states but judging from comments made on this sites many seem like a real cunts

You are becoming addicted! If you had lived in the U.S. or Brazil and had any usefull experiance to tell, you would probably seem like a cunt too.
Then again you are starting to become
a cunt in your own right.

It's good news for Brazil that the yankees bash it. I live in Hawaii and they are driving us out of here, buying all land that they can grab and being rude, disrespectful, and ignorant of our local culture. It is great for Brazil, where I own land and plan to retire, that most of the mainland haoles prefer their frozen tundra...
Ahui ho!

Before moving to Brazil I read a lot of negative comments from a variety of foreigners, I concluded that they were just negative people bashing Brazil. They pissed me off so I quit reading things and thought since I am moving there anyway I will form my own opinion. After many years I have to agree with these negative comments and now I am
among the ranks of the bashers per say.

Having lived in many countries it is all the same, you can write a list about the negative of each. But of course every country has its positives, yes including Brazil; Brazil probably has as many positives as most countries. It we were selling Brazil we could give endless positive critiques, and then again the discussion here is to have a balance of reality by showing the real experience.

If you talk to an Argentinean, a Brit, an American, a Paraguayan, a Columbian, a Russian, a Brazilian etc. here you will the same or similar negative accounts. So really anyone can join the club here. Only the dreamers like I was get offended because someone is s**tting on their dream that Brazil is a paradise for foreigners, there are so many stupid idealistic American and others who come thinking everyday is going to be a Carnival , and by the power of their magic and money they will right the wrongs, save the Prostitutes, end the favelas, make this a first world country. I would guess that 40 out of 41 foreigners leave here with their tails between their legs. The remainder stay here and take the good with the bad, just like in any other country.
All I can say to you idealistic greenhorns is blow-me!

Really if what you want to hear is that Brazil is paradise, we stay at the beach and suck on the straw from the coconut. $10,000.00 will make you a millionaire GOD here, you will never have to work again in your life, if you wish to retire here the government is going to put you up in a special retirement village at their expense. The people here are so polite and well educated, blacks dance with whites with pride and the Japanese here are only Geishas at your disposal.
Medical expenses here are so cheap; you can actually live in the emergency room cheaper than the Hilton. The cities here are so clean that you can eat off the sidewalks. Sex here is free, Brazilian woman are just waiting for you powerful men to come! If you do feel like working, getting a job is as easy as flushing the toilet. Poverty here does not exist; we help one another in close communities always defending the rights of the less fortunate. Most people here give 25% of their disposal income to charities. Phew… I will stop there for now, but hey do not let me convince you, come, come and see for yourself.

I have to laugh when I occationally read that if you decide to live in Brazil you should live like a Brazilian. With that single statement you have constrained your lifestyle choices to the extreme. To live like a Brazilian is to have a seige mentality because you are constantly expecting to be under attack from some facet of society at all times. The best advice is to enjoy the weather and beautiful terrain but stay as isolated as possible from the rest of Brazilian society. If you have an independent income and a few street-wise friends you might well enjoy life in Brazil. P.S. You'll need to develop a tough hide to be able to ignore the abject poverty and suffering that is" in your face" everytime you venture out. But then the writer, Robin, must be a one pretty tough chick--or blind.

disrespectful, you ain't seen NOTHIN' yet!!!! Wait till you get a belly full of this s**t here!!!

I spent 4 months in Salvador in 1996 and have been back since. I had no trouble at all and found the people to be friendly - at least enough of them to make it worth my while to go back.

I occasionally visit this site when I run out of ideas which site to go next.
I am Brazilian in the process of becoming a US Citizen and forever renouncing the Brazilian citizenship. (I cant wait)

I think this article generated the best comments I have seen on this site. They're represent what is like to live in Brazil for reals.
I stayed away for over 15 years before returning for a quick visit.
Believe it or not, the Brazil of today is a crazier and more chaotic version of the one I left behind.

I never got used to it while growing up. Everything is upside down and logic has no play in the everyday life.

I can only agree with most Americans: it is an exotic place with exotic people living in the wild.. but if drop you guard and you will be eaten alive.


Good luck to all!!!

What I meant:

The article itself is delusional. The comments afterwards are very true.

Funny stuff here, some oh so very true, the author of the orgional peice has written hack job to promote her sevices and it seems knows as good as nothing as about living in Brasil.

At least not nearly as much as you jaded twisted bloodied gringo long stayers.

I am in the Hotel business, so far making money - and meeting lots of brasilians from all over the country every day, come are really nice some are rude or just annoying.. Without a Brasilian wife to deal with some of the bulls**t, I now know I could have never made it this far here.

Damn you guys have shattered my dreams of retirement in Brazil. Is Agrentina or Uruguay much better or am I going to have to be content with payng the high taxes of Australia.

What ever country you retire in you might weigh the benefits to the difficulties; have a long term plan based on the reality of where you are moving. If you are not going to learn the local language or are unable to learn languages quickly, you would be best to find a country that speaks your language. Retirement generally means not working anymore, so choose a place where you can practice your hobbies, if you are going to isolate yourself
and not participate in your surroundings you are going to go crazy stuck inside your home.
You will need a wife or girlfriend, friends, a hired companion etc. and if you are in a bureaucratic place someone to help you with the bureaucracy, being a do it yourselfer can wear you out and most time cost you more in the long run.
It is better to visit the country that you like then start building contacts, experience, realities, it takes sometimes a couple of years to really get past the surface into the reality
of what it is really going to be like. Always have a quick exit strategy. Don’t burn any bridges to your home country, because there is high possibility you will have to go back for one reason or another. If you can not go back to your home country you better have an exit strategy to another country of your choice.
Medical insurance cost for retired people can be quite high depending on age take a look at that or least the options for some type of government provided care or what it will cost you out of pocket for emergency care, hospital stay etc.
Make sure beforehand how to transfer money into and out of the country and the cost, you definitely need a strategy beforehand.
Getting a permanent visa anywhere can be a pain, even a retirement visa. Normally it is quicker to get the visa in your home country before the actual move.
Really there is no reason why you could not or should not move to Brazil, if you isolate yourself properly you minimize the negative side. I do not suggest isolating yourself to much, I have seen some gringos that on first site looked like a whipped dog and almost
s**t their pants having the chance to talk to another English speaker with a first world mentality. In my opinion it is a lot easier to go from 3rd world to 1st world than the opposite.

Those who criticize the country are noit totally wrong. ON the other hand, they are welcoming foreigners who wish to reside, government and bureaucracy are helpful and what is little known is that you can do officially and legally a terrific deal with the government FOR HAVING A VERY LOW TAX RATE !
NO NEED TO CHEAT AND LIE, LIKE IN BRAZIL.
EVERYONE CAN SET UP A BANK ACCOUNT VERY EASILY.
FURTHERMORE, THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN MARRAKECH IS JUST TEN TIMES BETTER THAN IN BRAZIL.
IT IS VERY TRENDY AND INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE BEST PLACE ON EARTH TO RESIDE AND RETIRE...WITH CLASS AND PEACE !!!!!

And for Argentina, it is the South American country with the most similar lifestyle and culture as Europe....but so much cheaper !

http://www.escapeartist.com/ef...razil.html

Here is a Brazil option, I plan on checking out this city at end of the year!

To all those bashers happily sucking each other dicks while thrashing Brazil, why you want to move so bad if you already leave in "a great place?"
You got nice weather in Nebraska, friendly folk in Alabama, nice and plump chicks in California, friendly people in NY, and low crime rate in Detroit, DC, and Overtown Miami? Just do me a favor, stay away from Brazil and Hawaii, we really do not need nor want your "higher education and cosmopolitan way of life."
Aloha nahenahe

Cheif 'o-kole

Mastubating while drinking beer causes
your condition, stop one or the other!

Aloha

I have posted a couple of times in this thread and mentioned Argentina as a viable alternative to Brazil and now I see others are interested in it as well. I live in BsAs and am happy (overall). I will skim through some of the previous posts and extract excerpts which mirror the situation in Argentina (or at least BsAs).

Much of what Americans enjoy is access to technology - Plasma TV’s, the latest Mac laptop, latest I-pod, latest 4-wheel drive - you get the point. . .First, all those things in Brazil (Argentina) are 1-2 generations behind what Americans have come to expect. THEY ARE 3 X THE PRICE (This is actually from one of my previous posts)

But wait till some one who has been to Disney World for a week or two begins to tell you what’s wrong with America. Not that there aren’t plenty of things that could be mentioned, as were far from perfect but invariably what you hear is straight from a old Fidel Castro diatribe. You know what they say: If you repeat a untruth often enough, soon everyone will believe it. For example, you will soon learn that the US has already annexed the Amazon as the fifty first state along with other assorted bull s**t.

Get used to lying and being lied to. You’ll be cheated on almost any transaction you can imagine. When the business people are caught in the act they are not even embarrassed in the slightest. They’ll just give you a big grin and say “deculpe-me”. Based on my own experiences, I would estimate that many bars and restaurants add another 10 to 20% in profits this way.

If you throw your trash on the street you will be like everyone else, if you throw your trash in a waste basket no one notices your sacrifice. Spitting on the side walk is okay.
Adjusting your dick in your underwear in public is manly. When you stand in a line get as close to the person in front of you, occasionally hitting that person with your shoulders as you talk to the person behind you. If there is a gap between two people standing in line
and you are able to fit in between them feel free to take that spot.

Right of way for people walking on a sidewalk does not exist, you move over or they run into you. In the supermarket park your cart always in the middle of the isle, while you select something from the shelf. Stockers in the supermarket stock during the daytime, you are in there way!, so if you are hit by a box or your foot is run over by their cart they will give you the evil look. After you unload your cart or hand basket at the check out, it is the person behind you who is now responsible to move it.
(THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE ABOUT ARGENTINA - PARTICULARLY THE PART ABOUT THE SUPERMARKET!!!)

If you throw your trash on the street you will be like everyone else, if you throw your trash in a waste basket no one notices your sacrifice. Spitting on the side walk is okay.
Adjusting your dick in your underwear in public is manly. When you stand in a line get as close to the person in front of you, occasionally hitting that person with your shoulders as you talk to the person behind you. If there is a gap between two people standing in line
and you are able to fit in between them feel free to take that spot.

BACK TO ME:

There were some other salient, related points but as far as comparisons go, there are many to be made. If you come to Argentina with a wife or girlfriend expect her to be treated like a sex object and nothing else. I have a beautiful Brazilian wife and men cannot even carry on a conversation without blatantly staring at her tits. They will also do a complete 180 and stare at her ass fully knowing that I see them. If Argentinian men lived in most other countries they would become extinct in no time as most men would simply break them in two . . .

Argentinian men, as far as I'm concerned, are the biggest scumbags on earth. They make Brazilian men look like stand up guys. Fortunately they are also complete pussies and will quickly whimper and hide or turn their face away to avoid eye contact with any other male they perceive as dominant (and trust me with an average height of 5'6" and about 130 pounds that is YOU!!!) They also cry a lot and use the "I'm an ultra sensitive guy " tactic to try and win women over. It seems to work for Argentinian women half the time but most gringo women find them repulsive. They (Argentine men) have incontinence of the mouth and tell women they are in love 17 minutes after meeting them. . . You can see how that would go over well with most European and American girls.

They are the most arrogant people on earth bar none. They all think they are direct descendants of King Ferdinand and Isabella and will not admit they have Indian blood flowing through their veins even though they look like extras in "The Last of the Mohicans". They are also the most lazy as far as I can tell. They take 3 hour siestas and when they return to work it's not to accomplish much. I bought an apartment here and each time I contracted someone during the remodel process I got this strange sensation that the company felt like they were doing ME the favor by showing up, not the other way around.

The upside is that Argentina IS CHEAP!!!!! The cost is half what it is in Brazil or maybe even cheaper. The city is beautiful and has a great climate with 200% less crime. The nightlife is supreme - going all night long unlike Brazil which rolls up the sidewalks at around 2 a.m. The women are fantastically hot and the men are such losers that it's easy picking for most gringos with any game. I just saw "North Country" today and the treatment Charlize Theron got in that movie is what Argentinian women (actually all women) have come to expect on a daily basis here. So the door is open to find a nice Argentine girl to settle down with. Most importantly, Argentina offers far better opportunities investment wise. Apartments are very cheap and their is plenty of cheap labor (and it's good that it is so plentiful because it takes about 3 Argentinian men to do the work of one American man). I would recommend it as a much more realistic place to retire than Brazil.

I have met a few Argentine women here is Brazil, even the average looking ones have an attraction that is hard to ignore. Gives me a woody when they speak english with that Argentine accent!
I want one!!!

And keep whining and complaining like the rest of the unhappy Americans. Americans are nothing but whiners and complainers. By the looks of their unhappy faces you wouldn't think America was such a great place to live and your sure cannot get sex there. That is why Americans and Euroepeans run to Brazil in the first place. They get tired of looking at another big fat unhappy miserable loser like themselves.

Don't paint America as such a great country to live because it is no better than anyplace else. Argentina is a racist sh-thole that murdered off her black and Indian population. Better yet stay in Europe and America with the rest of your kind and whine about your President and your Prime Minister and the high taxes and the stress. Keep on taking your Viagra and anti-depressants and getting fatter in front of your tv set and being lonely and unhappy.

Stay in your First World country where everything is so wonderful and beautiful and civilized and perfect. Okay so you don't have no sex there but you got a lot of nice stores where you can buy high powered high tech s-x gadgets so you can f-ck yourselves.

Not long ago in Veja magazine I think it was, a study showed that American men had way more sex than most countries especialy brazil. Actually I had
way more sex in the U.S. if f_cking was
my only reason for existance I would move back there.

The Stay In America poster sounds like a Brazilian who just got back from Disneyland..lol

A study showed now that's a laugh. You know damn well American men do not have more sex unless the survey is including the household dogs. That's a good one! If you consider plastic blow up dolls then yes they do have more sex but with a real live woman who looks like more than a fat lard assed dog then NO they don't have more sex. American men tell more frigging lies than Brazilians but they are NOT actually having more sex. This is the funniest thing I ever heard. They may even be PAYING for more sex but no ugly pasty faced baldheaded American is going to walk down a street and just attract a woman.

ROFL :grin :grin

First of all, not all of us are American. So while you may enjoy attacking honest comments which reveal the truth about Brazil (obviously someone is offended), the American bashing doesn’t change this reality. The simple truth is that Brazil is not some idealistic banana republic. Get over the banana fever. While you may feel you have found paradise after your two week holiday in a highly structured tourist community, living here is anything but that paradise (I’m obligated to live here). Life can be extremely unforgiving, bureaucratic, expensive, alienating, and even dangerous here. No, the women are not free, and you will not be treated like royalty. Much the opposite. I agree that Buenos Aires and Costa Rica are much better, cheaper, and more realistic options (the UK, US, AU are the most realistic).

I am English married to a Brazilian wife and currently live in the UK. I have been to Brazil on several occasions for a few weeks at a time. As a place to visit it is undeniably a paradise in many respects but I suspect that what many of the posters above have stated about living there is true.

I have lived and travelled extensively in many 3rd world countries and never had any problems but Brazil has always been an exception. While on holiday both my cards were cloned my wife was robbed while paying the taxi driver in Rio and after leaving the taxi we were followed until we dodged into a Hotel.

In addition my wife still has a lot of dealings with Brazil because of family and finances. I have never seen such an array of bureaucracy and different problems from missing post, packages opened with things missing, problems transferring money. Her family have constant problems with hacked phone lines and mysterious numbers appearing not just on landlines but cell phones.

There seems to be no stability in the employment market and many of my Brazilian relatives are in and out of jobs constantly. Life there seems to go from stability to crisis in a blink of an eye. There seems to be little consistency with anything. Personally I would like to move from the UK and at one time we did consider Brazil but with the problems we have experienced from this distance it has made me wary.

Imagine dealing with issues like Tax or setting up a business or even buying a house….I think I would become paranoid about every transaction that takes place. Instead of Brazil we have decided to take a look at Chile. I have made contact with expats in Chile and they only have good words to say about it.

Crime and corruption are the lowest in Latin America, excellent infrastructure and beautiful scenery as well as nice people.

As an American living in Brazil for five years, the one thing that comes out very clear from the comments is one fact: People in Brazil complain non-stop! They love to bitch, cry, and generally be negative more than any country I have been to - 23 and counting. And they really miss the point:

Brazil does not have:

1) Terrorism.
2) Natural disasters (hurricanes, earth quakes etc).
3) War.
4) Racial problems anywhere near the scale of North America and Europe.
5) Religious conflicts or a powerful religious influence in politics.

It does have:

1) In general excellent, cheap food even if you are earning reals.
2) Lots of sunny beaches and unparalled natural beauty.
3) Excellent futebol teams
4) Lots of talented musicians and in general a very rich culture.

Addressing the negatives:

1) Its easy to get a good job here as a foreigner IF you are an Engineer, Doctor, or many other white colar fields. I'm a computer programmer and I have been employed non-stop since arriving.

2) There are beggars in the north east, but mostly its people on the street corners juggling and trying to wash windows, selling simple things etc. The only real beggars I see are disabled. And yes, San Fransciso is even worse than say Fortaleza.
Some southern cities like curitiba, porto alegre and floripa have very little begging.

3) I have not been robbed even once, and I'm a younger person that drinks out late often and does a lot of walking, riding the bus etc.

Brazil does have its problems.

1) Education is something to worry about if you plan to have children.
2) No one depends on the police force here. In can be effective, but most often its non-existant. They do however leave you alone unlike the states.
3) People drive like maniacs and the whole country lacks parking no matter where you are at.
4) Politics here is so ridiculous its barely worth paying attention to.

So I like living here alot and have no regrets. Then again, I'm not the type that complains much. I know a good place when I see it.

Americans. Leave our country alone. Stay where God put you. and dont bring your problems to Brazil. Please stay out.

here reveal how these people really are: nesty, ignorant, arrogant and foremost, FAT!

Do us a favor, stay out of my country (Brasil)...meanwhile, VAI TOMAR NO CU!

keol

Terrorism: Fear of having a gun put to your head and robbed. Fear of being kidnapped and ransomed off or worse (Sao Paulo - 2nd highest number of kidnappings per annum in the world). Urban warfare that often closes the Linha Amarela in Rio because of intense firefights between gangs and police. A murder rate that exceeds that of the US by far. These are all things of which to be terrified in my book. I could go on actually but these are just things that have happened to me, people close to me or I have witnessed firsthand!

Devastating drought in the south that reduced agricultural production in Brazil by 9% this year. The Hurricane that hit Santa Catarina last year. Torrential flooding (some recently) that occurs in Minas and other states. The continuing destruction of the Amazon that we will call a natural disaster waiting in the wings . . .

War - witness any favela during a firefight and tell me that is not war!! Many drug lords are better armed than Marines or Iraqi Insurgents and are probably as proficient with the use of those heavy arms. Also Brazil has the luxury of selling their oranges to terrorist states because they have no stance or impact on the world despite having its 5th largest population. They are denied a permanent seat on the Security Council and have little to worry about with their "a gente nao se mexe" attitude. That is fine - good for them as they are not contributing to the problem. At the same time they are not helping solve any problems either. They do little in the world except worry about their exports as well they should because their leaders are so corrupt it follows that their military would be absolutely frightening on the battlefield. Brazil's deathtoll certainly reads like a list of war dead to me!

Racial Problems - are you kidding? 90% of Brazils poorest citizens are Black or Indian. That in itself qualifies as racism in North America but not in Brazil? The overwhelming majority of favela-dwellers are black. No - no racial inequality there. Find blacks represented equally in advertising on billboards or tv. You would think that Brazil is entirely white if you judged it by the billboards of Giselle Bundchen and other WHITE models. Try dating a black girl or man in Brazil if you are white and see how open they REALLY are to that. I dated a black Paulista and never experienced the kind of discomfort I felt there when getting on the subway with her. Bahia is another hotspot for racism. Except there it is black on white discrimination. Ask whites how comfortable they felt in Salvador - see previous posts.

Religion: That is the most laughable. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OWNS BRAZIL!! No abortion because of - guess who?? AIDS is a serious problem in Brazil because the church fails to recognize that kids are having sex (better to just ignore it) and in many parts of Brazil the "go forth and be fruitful" mindset is taken litterly encouraging men to have multiple families and multiple hungry mouths to feed. I could also go on and on about the church in Brazil and all of Latin America but don't think for a minute the church doesn't have Brazil by the nose. Poor people are most susceptible to the hypocritical teachings of religious sects.

Glad you have work as a computer programmer. Why don't you share what you make and who you work for. Brazilian or American company? Are you paid in dollars or Reais and are you paying taxes in Brazil and the US like a good little boy. . .? If you are a doctor, lawyer or computer engineer, why the f**k would you relocate to Brazil?? You could relocate to many other more desirable places and worry less about being kidnapped because of your high profile job. But then again most people I meet are lawyers and doctors so no problem!

THERE IS MUCH PANHANDLING EVERYWHERE IN BRAZIL INCLUDING FLORIPA, ETC. .

It's also nice to see that you believe Brazilian politics are a complete joke and unworthy of your attention. To those folks who are a bit more civic minded and take an interest in that MUNDANE, TRIVIAL aspect of Brazilian life, it may be an important detail when they have to buy a house, get car insurance and pay taxes, etc. But I'm sure you are doing all those things and politics has never entered into any of those realms of your existence. You have an equally rosy perspective on life in Brazil and the fact that you haven't been robbed yet is only a matter of time. Have you had your credit cards cloned yet? Have you been overcharged for something because they know they can usually get away with it? Have you been lied to constantly? If you have never had that misfortune then I say best of luck because your number is about to come up . . .

You should be thankful that Americans come to Brazil and provide a source of income and infrastucture for your otherwise backwards economy. And who is washing up on whose shores looking for work and a better life? - That's right, it's Brazilians who are storming the shores of Florida like it was Copacabana during Reveillon. You do us a favor and stay out of America where nobody wants you either. I take that back. We will take your women because they deserve better than you little wife-beating terds. Amazing how many of your women are dying to get away from you and marry foreign men so they can have a decent life without being cheated on throughout their lives and enjoy more than the income Brazilian men make from selling mobile phone chargers on the corner!! LOL!!!!

Obviously someone is a little bitter toward their home country. I also live in Brazil (have for the last 5 years), and I posted here. My point was not to complain, but to highlight that it is incredibly important to tell the truth, particularly when you're encouraging people to move to an entirely new country. Yes, Brazil can be beautiful, etc., but it is NOT easy to get a job...I know (i hire expats--a million applicants, very, very few openings). Crime is far worse than in the US by any measure, and there is far more begging on a more widespread scale. And personally, I don't know what you mean by the police messing with you in the States--only if you should be messed with. I'm not complaining, but I do want people to be forewarned! One other thing--if you are paid in dollars, everything has become far more expensive for you...and this is expected to get worse over the next year.

3) I have not been robbed even once, and I'm a younger person that drinks out late often and does a lot of walking, riding the bus etc.

I have lived in São Paulo 7 years and I have never been robbed either! But I know lets say at least 8 close Brazilian friends who have and my wife who works for a bank twice.
Whether you are being robbed or not the feeling remains that your time is coming!

O.K., Most of you got it right. It's dangerous, unreliable, and fearsomel. So, that's 1/2 of tha battle, successfully keeping you all out of Brazil. Now. let's wish you can stay away from Polynesia too!
Okole Hau

f**kING POLYNESIA!!?? Who the f**k asked you about Polynesia moron?? Quit deluding yourself about the importance of Polynesia. Overpriced, full of a*****es like you who think it's the only place on earth worth inhabiting . . .NOBODY GIVES A f**k ABOUT POLYNESIA HERE a*****e!!!

Here's hoping the next Tsunami floats your bloated corpse out to sea dickhead!!!

I refuse to believe that Brazil is as negative a place to live as people here wish to make it out to be. First of all clearly most of the posters are white (US/Euro version as in pale) so that means they were obviously American and European looking which exuded privelege and explained their problems with crime. That's extremely unfortunate and I wish for their sake that it's as simple as getting tan. Notice that black Americans liked it better. But they take caution because there weren't enough people to revolt so they're probably conditioned to anticipate the worst which explicates black middle American failure. Plus they have a heightened sensitivity to race because of the history, social setting and relatively small population and are therefore way more likely to read into life racially than probably any other group in the world.

Next it's a Third World Country. Get over it!! It's not a paradise on the one hand and on the other hand you're not a hero who will turn the place into an empire. You'll see the same crap in other developing countries. I'm Liberian and Liberia just got through a 7 year bloody coup. 10 years old with machine guns and red eyes taking orders from a Dictator. Bodies in the streets. Rebels and rapists. Different types of men randomly snatched and lined up for execution for senseless reason. Videotapes of the former president's ears being sliced off. And even before then you'd see kids bathing in buckets in the middle of a dirt road.

God I can't image that many people would go there and leave thinking exactly like TYPICAL AMERICANS- only worried about THEMSELVES and how THEY FEEL and not about the people living there suffering. No one said anything concerning the millions of people who are needy. Just about what they did to try to make the place seem like heaven. Oh boo hoo they had to be isolated to try to make the place perfect. Which as you'll see in the next section may have made it worse.

If you read all of that stuff above you would think Liberia is a total hell hole, plus what you see in the news and movies compared to what they show about Brazil. It was actually the best years of my life and I wouldn't trade it for all of the money in the world. It wasn't just because I was a child because all adult relatives agree which is why it's called Sweet Liberia. Bombard us with statistics please do: there are things that money can not buy. I'm sorry but there is something mystical about Third World spirits that don't exist in the US. I can't explain it, you just have to be part of it. The kids run around and spontaneously break out into soccer games. They don't have to buy fresh uniforms, cleats, and chin gards, and be full up on happy meals after riding around in a Minivan before they ever see the sport played. This might be why Americans aren't as good at soccer. They don't realize that Africans and Latin Americans care about the ESSENCE of the sport first and foremost. That grown men don't dress up like birds to see some MSI soccer camper lazily strolling down midfield. They've taken it to a spiritual level.
And before anyone says oh sure soccer, which is a one day thing compared to years of hell: This is exactly what the problem is. People in the US think that culture is a pasttime, hobby, or campout. They don't understand it's a way of life. Soccer is a ritual not a spontaneous pasttime, it's incorporated in the spirit of the community. There are number of other examples of things like this I could bring up. People don't sit there and lie to people's faces, they wouldn't set someone up to go somewhere if they felt the person would hate it. Yes to an extent insiders feel embarassed in human nature to let outsiders know if they didn't have fun, but not if it's world news folks, that's like it you had a bad day. You wouldn't insist against their most greivous doubts so they could waste their time and money, let alone leave these continents feeling racist or nativist.

One man's s**t is another man's treasure!
Perhaps I will move to Liberia?

It was actually the best years of my life and I wouldn't trade it for all of the money in the world

Executions, rebels, rapist coups lets see
whats better this or the playing soccer in the U.S.in brand new uniform?

A spiritual soccer match after a good massacre or educating yourself?

I just do not get the spirituality here, I lack growing up in a dictatorship. There is a divide between materialism and slavery under dictators and freedom. The sheep for the slaughter and the slaves remain ignorant until the end.

First of all, for the Hawaiian poster, YOUR IN AMERICA dickweed!!! Americans are buying up everything???? Your goddamn right, IT IS AMERICA!! HAWAII IS AN AMERICAN STATE!! lol. WTF?

For the rest of you people saying, "its not all that bad, etc, etc, etc. Well, white or not, I have BRAZILIANS that work for me, I've made SIGNIFICANT investments here, I have a CHILD here. The BRAZILIANS themselves that are educated and know other cultures such as the US. UK, Canada, etc., readily and openly admit that this is a DANGEROUS place, where people have a GENERAL ATTITUDE OF DISRESPECT AND INCONSIDERATION. When one arrives here with dollars in his pocket everyone is looking to ENROLAR. It's the culture, it's the way they think. They DO NOT think about tomorrow, they'd rather f**k someone out of $20 TODAY than make $20 per week from them for the next 10 years. They think that gringos are STUPID, yes, most are not accustomed to the "jeito brasilado", and thank god, because "jeito brasilado" is SAFADEZA!!!

Please, come here you stupid f**king gringos with pockets full of cash!!! You'll soon experience what I have in 6 years. A country FULL of thieves, and not just the politicians, it permeates EVERYTHING!!

Right! Don't go there! While you are at it, there are nice place in the Aleutians!
Leave Polynesia alone too (just a thought...)
Okole Hau
Vive Tahiti le pays des'amour...

They DO NOT think about tomorrow, they'd rather f**k someone out of $20 TODAY than make $20 per week from them for the next 10 years.

This is the truth!
Perhaps it goes with the futeball mentality, a goal scored now is better
than worrying about winning the game!

I have been to Brasil 5 times, the last one was for 3 months last year and it's sad but true in regards to alot of the negative things said about such a beautiful country. The first few times I was just enjoying myself and ignoring the way things are around me but this time I made it a point to see how things operate and how feasible it would be to move and live there. I stayed mostly in Bahia state as Sao Paolo was been there done that being that I was born and raised in NYC projects which don't compare to the big city favelas in Brasil. Rio was much the same so I only spent 2 days there. I can pass for a Brazilian since I have become more fluent in the language and forced myself to read and write it through newspapers and novelas. I was traveling by bus so as to get the lay of the land and hit several cities and small towns along the way. I visited Sao Vicente for a one day side trip on my way to Salvador, met a stunning 20year old shoe salesgirl that I swear looks like Ashanti and had a great time with her for 5 days. Unfortunately she was a chronic liar and was always asking me to buy her this and that and never calling to let me know she was going to stand me up for the day or night, constantly assuring me she had no other boyfriend. It became quite annoying and I just left, I really wanted to get to know her better but after asking her I wanted to meet her family and her avoiding the subject I knew it was time to go. Girls in big cities in Brazil are the same as girls in NYC or Miami by and large. Now I am not a fat white old lazy american but a latino fella who works out and has no problem picking up local babes. I have contemplated moving there but I was glad to experience life in Brasil for the length of time I was there. I would never own a car for one thing, I dated a very pretty girl from Itabuna,BA who is a nurse and she had a car. She paid r$ 30,000.00 for a FORD something or other, 4 cyl, 2 door with no A/C, she never dared to take it outside the city and preferred to just drive it on the weekends, the reasons being it was too dangerous to drive outside the city at night due to huge potholes and the cost of fuel. She preferred to take the local buses to work and school which were up to a mile away and by car would have been just 20 minutes. We did some side trips to Illeus, over-rated, love Serrra Grande as well as a small beach town called Olivenca. She never expected anything in return for anything she gave. I could never get a girl like this in the states, smaller towns in Brasil to me have more genuine people and the girls seem to be more honest and trustworthy. I enjoyed giving her things from the heart and she was genuinely glad to be with me, she was always saying " Oh Brasil, still a 3rd world country" whenever things that normally should not be a problem wound up costing time or $$$ Things definitely get done with bribes and who you know. I thought a good business to get into seems anything to do with suspension systems for Volkswagons since the roads really do suck, but as mentioned above the gov't has so much red tape to cut through it would be too much of a headache to get the endeavor off the ground. The previous time I was in Brasil I was in a small town called Guarapari in the state of Vitoria. I met a 21yr old stunner there and was hoping I could establish a long term relationship with her. She was quite poor and worked in a clothing store. While in this beachside town everyone was hounding me to buy buy buy waterfront condo's. The town was not at all that impressive and the prices were not a bargain either. I said to myself, let's see who really lays it on thick and feeds me a load of crap so I walked into several real estate offices. One guy told me all the " Mineros " are buying up the place and I should get in on the opportunity of a lifetime. The salesgirl was a very young divorced mother of one who would drive anybody crazy but I had to behave myself as I already had a local honey. She was very sweet and we got along really well but when the boss introduced himself I knew the con was about to begin and I could tell in the girls face that she did'nt want to be there when the fella started to do his schpeel. Now don't get me wrong, the condos were very nice. I could'nt get used to the small square footage you get for your money as here in the states I'm used to a 1500 sq ft home with a yard, but the guy went from r$ 200,000.00 to dropping it to r$ 90,000.00 if I paid cash, he said he was personal friends with the architect of the project and could help me with the CPF # and transfer of $$$ to his personal account. I went through several experiences like this in Porto Seguro, Trancoso, Illehus, Lauro de Freitas etc etc. You could really lose alot of $$$ here if you do things without a lawyer. My street smarts kept me out of alot of compromising situations in Brasil but I know others who have been taken for a sizeable amount of $$$ and sometimes they even had a lawyer. Now the girl in Guarapari was a real stunner but as is the same thing in most latin american countries, you court the girl you also court the family. Now I personally feel the girl was genuine but could tell she had a hard time dividing her loyalties. The tale goes like this. We became very close, her younger brother was studying in a computer school. I felt a genuine need to help out the girl by helping out the family. I used to have 5 computer stores in the US during the tech hey days so I decided to send the brother about USA $ 200.00 in computer peripherals, when they arrived customs demanded a Tax of r$ 417.00 ( hmmmmmmmmmmmmm) , the brother begged and pleaded with me to send the $$$ because he had everything sold already. The deal was we split the profit and he would wire my half to my acct in then states. So like the fool I am I did. My girl told me he sold everything and the items I sent when sold would total almost r$ 2,000.00 I never heard from him again, the girl is ashamed of her brother and now tells me she needs r$ 3000.00 for an operation. hmmmmmmmmmm !!!!!!!!! I had to walk away and preferred to just not deal with her and this made me question my judgement, it hurt and I needed to clear my head. Needless to say that was over as a similar thing happened to me in Colombia so silly me got taken twice in 2 different countries. Personally I would rather rent than own an apt in Brasil. The paperwork involved and the grifters out there scare me however if you do meet genuinely nice and honest people which I found many and they could point you int he right directions I would not be opposed to buy some land and build my own home there from the ground up. The US $$$ is not as strong as it used to be and grocery shopping seems to cost more than in the states....( cheese is really expensive !!! ) . The Real $$ is stronger but the prices have gone up for everyday items for the locals so it's a catch 22. They get $$$ from family in Europe or the US but it's valued lower than before. I never felt in any danger even in Salvador but living there on a day to day basis is somewhat of a challenge even if you did have alot of $$$. Keeping a low profile isn't a problem and can be done if you keep your loud american boasting to a minimum. I'm a low key kinda guy and prefer to watch things develop from a safe distance.A secure bldg will still cost and it would make me feel like a prisoner in my own home. I felt a more genuiness from the girls in Bahia than any other state I have been to in Brasil. Everytime I would go to a store and a sweet young girl 15-23 would attend to me I would always say "obrigado" on my way out and would melt when they responded with " de nada " in a very slow sexy manner looking me up and down like I was a piece of meat, what a turn on. I always treated everyone there with respect and kindness and always received the same. I'd play chess with strangers in parks and buy them a beer and just relax and chat away. I was'nt too impressed with Belo Horizonte, big city just like NYC, stay away from the buildings next to the Rodoviaria that have the floors of whores, very depressing. I have yet to visit NorthEast Brasil but a friend tells me to try Fortaleza. At the moment I have established a relationship with a gorgeous young hardbody dancer from Porto Seguro, she dances in the local music groups and is the sweetest girl as are most of the Bahianas. Yeah she is from a poor family and who knows what will happen. There are risks in everything we do, especially in affairs of the heart. There are pros and cons in regards to living in Brasil but if you can stay in a small community in a small town and respect those around you I think you'd do well. Make friends with the local policemen, treat them to a beer, teach their kids english and play with them, join a local church to get to know the local people and I think that just might do the trick. Socialize and be one with a small community and you will enrich your life as well as have a good many friends you can trust, just don't show off your $$$ and get too materialistic around simple honest people. I found myself not wanting the finer things in life as that is mostly the american dream or rather nightmare of accumulation of materials and greed and keeping up with the Jones'. Hanging out with my girlfriends family in a small living room, sharing some coffee and some pastries I would buy at the local supermarket, watching a novela on a small 19" color TV with the fan blowing in cool night air seems so much warmer and fulfilling to me than being in a big city. Been there done that, the simple life is calling. I think maybe living there 6 months and going back to the states for the other 6 months to replenish funds seems like the way to go, at least for me, for now, but hey to each his own. Now I gotta figure out how to get this girl back to the states and pray she does'nt get corrupted cause if anyone is gonna corrupt her it's gonna be me !!!

Stick with your plan of 6 months in Brazil, 6 months in the states. That Brazilian sweetness will melt quickly once she has to deal with the hardness of the states. I see what you mean about the small town life. I visited Bahia and fell in love with Cachoiera but I loved Salvador too. There is something mystical about sitting in the town square among the towns people and just visiting even though I really can't speak the language. Makes you forget the materialism and bling bling of the big city and see what is really important in this life.

I get tired of the states and the phony assed people and the constant emphasis on money and material goods. I am not saying that Brazilians are immune from these attitudes but at least in the small towns you can escape some of it. The big city and the phoniness is not for me. I'm basically a small town person. I think it would be a great idea to maybe see if you can try living there for six months at a time. Hope it works out for you and that you find a way to get yourself a nice little Brazilian wife and settle down. But please KEEP her in Brazil because once she gets corrupted by the states she will be just another big fat lard ass whining nagging American.

Come on you two! The idea is to keep them at bay and avoiding moving there! Tell them that the baianas also have fangs and will let them bleed. Ilheus, Itabuna and Porto Seguro are totally hurricane, earthquake, tsunami, and soccer prone. It snows there heavily every ten centuries too! Stay in the mainland US and be safe! (Polynesia is just as bad!)
Okole Hau

I knew an American here not to long ago who had his joint bank account drained of over $40,000.00 to keep personal information personal I wont go into the details. In short he married a prostitute, who had a boyfriend. Pretty she was!
In short beauty here beauty can be translated into big cash for uneducated women, the prettier they are the more they will cost you. You can look it in two ways you take care of them and they will take care of you, but if you run out of cash the relationship is over or if they can get their fill. If you think you can come to Brazil and domesticate these types you are going to pay dearly.
Just like in most countries if you want a good wife you have to find a stable one, and the stable ones here are going to University or have gotten their degree already and are working. You might find a poor beautiful girl who is your dream partner, but you have to build a relationship and know that she is honest and with integrity, then plan on assisting her parents from time to time financially, cause here the family unit usually helps each other out if someone has any money. And believe me if you are not already well off here the person or persons family can be in the hole already from 5-30 thousand reais, this includes needed things they have put off buying. In the land of feast and famine
the rules are really different.

Didn't someone tell you to go back to your coloring books and crayons. NOBODY GIVES A s**t ABOUT YOUR LITTLE JERKWATER CORNER OF THE WORLD!!!! I don't recall seeing one post in all my time here where anyone has asked about Polynesia or gives a s**t about what you wannabe Sumo wrestlers are doing!!! DONT WORRY LITTLE FELLA IF WE ALL DECIDE TO EVACUATE THE REST OF THE WORLD IN FAVOR OF POLYNESIA WE WILL BE SURE TO KILL YOU OFF FIRST SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WATCH US BREED WITH YOUR WOMEN OK OKOLE HOLE?? Now why don't you run along you little terd and make your own site called "POLYNESSIA - ALL THE INFORMATION YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR ALL THE TIME - PLUS ME OKOLE f**kHOLE!!! TIME FOR BED NOW MMMKKKK?

If Americans HATE Brazil so much then why don't they get out of Brazil and stay their fat asses in America? Nobody is asking Americans to stay in Brazil if they feel Brazil is a s**thole full of racist,corrupt darkies. Some Americans have been living in Brazil longer than God and rather then returning their fat asses back to the States they continue living in Brazil and complaining about how horrible it is to live there. Like previous posters have told Americans "keep your fat asses out of Brazil" and stay in America with all of it's first world privileges,comforts and conveniences and happy white faces grinning all of the time over their wonderful lives.

I can relate with you bud. First of all, that game that was played on you is not uncommon. Someone should have told you about the import taxes. Anything with a value over $50 will be taxed from 60% to 100% of the value of the package and customs will not release the pkg. until the taxes are paid....ridiculous huh? And now the girl needs surgery?? I already heard that story, and have a european buddy that got the very same story, it seems to be a common one.

As far as buying a piece of real estate, they ALL do that. They begin to ask for a price that is 2-3 times of what they'll actually accept. They don't understand that this is an INSULT to those that know better. We bought a piece of property here for 700,000 reais, 56,000 sq. meters, we then attempted to buy our neighbors property, 58,000 sq. meters, his asking price was 1.8 million reais!!! We negotiated down to 1 million but ended up telling him to keep it. Since he's been causing every type of problem possible for us in our attempts to build since we didn't buy his land. When I saw him in the street a couple months back I asked him why he was doing all the bulls**t that he was, he looked at me as he began to walk away and said, "compra meu terreno!!" (Buy my land!!) What a MF'er, just because we decided to not purchase his land now he's going to cause every problem imaginable thinking that we'll buy his land to "solve the problem". What the arrogant bastard needs to understand is our development will at least double the value of his land, if not triple it in the next several years.

I've been involved in numerous negotiations here, and I wish I was able to videotape the meetings, especially when I walk into the room. Their eyes get big as saucers and they're blinded by dollar signs $$$$$$$. As I'm certain many foreign tourists have noticed how the 2 reais acaraje can turn into a 5 dollar acaraje for a gringo, or the 20 reais cab ride can turn into a 70 reais tour around town, well just imagine what happens when you're negotiating for properties, businesses, etc., that value in the millions. It's the exact same s**t, just on another level.

I have lived in the northeast for the last 12 years and sorry to bust your bubble, but Fortaleza has turned into a real s**thole. It is overflooded with prostitutes and now has huge populations of sex tourists. Primarily huge groups of Italians and also many Germans. It's also became very dirty. A while back the brazilian police stopped 2 chartered flights from Italy, all men, on their way to Fortaleza specifically for prostitutes. 75% of tourists that arrive in Fortaleza are men!! I just got returned from there a few weeks ago, I'll never go back.

Also was in Porto Seguro a couple months back, I betcha I may have seen that hardbody you're talking about, there are numerous "stunners" there with unreal legs and asses. If you can get that back to the states god bless you!!!!

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Stay where God put you. and dont bring your problems to Brazil. Please stay out.

I feel quite certain the americans would oblige if you could just get the 1,000,000 illegal brazilians out of the U.S.!!! It looks like the Normandy invasion at times!! Just a couple months back in the state of Texas they caught SIX groups of Brazilians within a TWO HOUR time span trying to smuggle themselves across the border.....400+ illegal brasilians were caught in six different groups in a two hour time period!!!! What the f**k is that???? You certainly don't see americnas SNEAKING into brazil, not one, let alone IN MASS!

Funny how Brazil was the ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD that when the U.S. changed their security requirements for 140+ countries when entering the U.S. after 9-11, they were the ONLY country that reciprocated, ok, that's your right. But having idiotic "cowboy" judges from Mato Grosso making statements comparing getting fingerprinted and photographed to the "worst crimes perpetrated by Adolf Hitler in WWII"??? Is ANY brazilian, or ANY human being actually going to try and justify this idiotic statement?? That a country, after being attacked, 3,000+ people murdered from all over the world, disturbing the WORLDS economy, and now because they've instituted new security procedures make a comparison to the murder and slaughter of 12 million jews?? Don't you think that seriously offended the Jewish community??? If someone would've made a similiar statement against these f**king muslims, lol, you would have anarchy in every major city in the country where the statement was made.

Funny how those that got pissed off, and still pissed off today about, "how those big, bad, americans pick on poor little brazil"!!! They didn't "pick" on "brazil". These people give themselves WAY too much credit and self-importance. The U.S. put those security measures into place for 140+ countries, and the REST of the world, 30 some odd countries, had approximately 8-10 months to get their passports redone with photos and fingerprints inside their passports, and if they did not get these "new" upgraded passports within the time frame, then they too would be subjected to the exact SAME procedure as everyone else.

Not to mention the fact that at the time the Brazilian passport was one of the EASIEST passports in the world to duplicate. Not to mention the fact that here in Brazil they are the KINGS of duplication and falsification. Ask ANY person working in the US embassy or consulate their #1 preoccupation when issuing a brazilian any type of visa.....FALSIFICATION OF DOCUMENTATION!

Did you all hear about the huge international group of diamond smugglers that they caught here in brazil recently??? It was a multi-country operation, why were the diamonds being sent here, to brazil???? TO FALSIFY THE DOCUMENTATION!!!!

And yes, on the border of brazil, argentina and paraguay, in ciudad del este resides the largest population of muslims outside of the middle east. A known haven for hezbollah terrorists and an area suspected for keeping those responsible for the bombing of the Israeli embassy in Argentina in the 90's. It is a known fact that Osama bin Laden himself visited there years ago. Here is a quote from FBI director Robert Meuller;

Mueller said one route takes Middle Easterners to Brazil, where they assume false identities before entering Mexico and then crossing into the U.S. Bush administration officials have previously said al-Qaida could try to infiltrate the United States through the Mexican border.

Mueller stopped short of confirming that terrorists had entered illegally via Mexico, but said it's believed people from countries where al-Qaida is active have done so.

Hezbollah and the terrorist Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) are operating in the tri-border region of Paraguay, Argentina and Brazil. The suspected activities of these groups include counterfeiting U.S. currency and drug smuggling, with the area in which they function described as a "haven for Islamic extremists" by the administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration, Asa Hutchinson, in testimony before the House International Relations Committee.

And brasilians get upset because we're going to make them, and 140 other countries conform to new security measures??? This, exactly this, shows you the attitudes and general disdain that MANY have here for the U.S. I wold say that when one knows the FACTS, that BRAZIL in particular should be singled out, but they're not. Just with the situation that exists with muslim extremists and brazil being the kings of falsifying documents, that's enough right there!!! Let alone the hundreds of thousands and millions that are already there illegally, and more coming everyday. They s**t all over their own country, illegal activity and impunity rule the day, and they think that's the way it should be everywhere else as well??

Does anyone know what the THIRD largest economy here in Brazil is?? First is soja (soy beans), second is laranges (oranges), third is "PEOPLE SENDING MONEY TO BRAZIL FROM OUTSIDE BRAZIL!!!!" Now where does one think the largest population of brazilians reside outside of brazil?? That's right, the U.S.!! So you see, these people primarily go to the U.S., generally speaking, to TAKE from it, their goal isn't to go there and contribute to the community in which they're living. It's to take what they can, send to brazil what they can, then come back when they can. Unlike many foreigners here, that come here to invest.....only to be taken from once again by these exact same attitudes.....LET'S f**k THE GRINGOS!!

Look at this statistic!!

Mexico - Gateway to U.S.
46% of all illegal passports caught at U.S. border are from Brazilians attempting to enter through Mexico.

How can a brazilian say to an american to "stay in your own country??" f**king hipocrites to the 3rd degree!!

The Brazilian government estimates that between 1.5 million and three million Brazilians are living abroad, most in the United States or Japan. Last year, according to a congressional estimate, the emigrants sent nearly $6 billion in remittances back to Brazil, or about the same amount earned by Brazil's leading export product, soybeans.

In just three hours, authorities arrested 147 Brazilians across Hidalgo County. Five different groups of Brazilian immigrants were caught Thursday, beginning at 9:30 a.m. near Los Ebanos. Busts followed near Sullivan City, La Joya, McCook and McAllen

- April 21st 2005

June 30th 2005 -

Border Patrol agents in south Texas detained 232 Brazilians who had entered the United States illegally. All told, more than 12,000 Brazilians have been apprehended trying to cross the United States-Mexican border this year, exceeding the number detained in all of 2004 and pushing Brazilians to the top of the category known as "other than Mexicans."

- and that number was in JUNE of 2005, wonder what the year end numbers were?

Since the 1960's, Governador Valadares has sent a stream of immigrants to Boston and nearby cities, but the stream has been growing larger. Mayor José Bonifácio Mourão estimates that 40,000 people from his city have emigrated to the United States. "Almost every family, including mine, has relatives in the United States," he said. But American authorities report increases in illegal immigration from all of Brazil's southern, more prosperous states. "It is as if we have infected other regions with the migratory virus,"

Because of the large number of people sending money into Brazil, the Federal Government bank: Caixa Economica Federal https://internetcaixa.caixa.gov.br/NASApp/siloj/index.do
has already partnered with one U.S.bank to facilitate the process of sending money into the country and will soon be expanding into other countries.

Because of the influx of money the banks will be offering more way to get money in. However try getting it back out as easy!! Other than the black market.

We want your money, not friendship...

Statistics above are quite misleading:

A UNITED Nations report has labelled Scotland the most violent country in the world, with people three times more likely to be assaulted than in America.

How many did butcher Bush kill today?

A UNITED Nations report has labelled Scotland the most violent country in the world

You left something out: A UNITED Nations report has labelled Scotland the most violent country in the developed world
The key word is developed as opposed to undeveloped which narrows it down a bit. Violence can be found in any country.

How many did butcher Bush kill today?

How many did he kill today?

We want your money, not friendship
We want your women, not the Amazon!

Great! No more moving to Brazil (or Polynesia) for the haoles! We are not sophisticated enough and, besides, you can "catch" dementia by listening to samba drums and attending luaus, as most of us creatures of the tropics have unfortunately developed. On the other hand, there are incredible places such as Malta, Chipre, Falklands, and Faroe Islands (where you can use your specialized skills on ice-scraping and snow shoveling...).
E Komo Mai
Mahalo Iahoe
Okole Hau

"How many did butcher Bush kill today? "


Well, don't know the exact numbers, but do know this for certain, and this is a statistical fact. Butcher George and his WARS against Afghanistan and Iraq, kill less people per year than the MURDER rate here in tranquil, friendly Brazil. Now how do you like those apples??

"We want your money, not friendship
We want your women, not the Amazon!"

ROTFLMAO - I love this guy!

We want your money, not friendship...

Well, better tell your buddies that are planning their next excursion across the mexican-U.S. border to stay awake!!! Because the Minute-Men are here!!! Thank Christ. Because of the lack of action taken by the U.S. gov't. in this problem that has long-ago become epidemic, finally the american citizen is taking it upon himself to protect what is his!!

Just wait until they start shipping Brazilians and Mexicans back home in boxes!!!!! Hopefully that will start to deter some....we can only hope!!!


UNCLE SAM

Are you still ranting about a place nobody cares about?? Of course you are - you're a f**king idiot. Everyone gets it - you tropical people are doing your own cool thing and the rest of us just don't get it. Just out of curiosity, are all Polynesians as retarded as you?? But then again I think being called retarded would be a step up for you . . .Honestly, you are really just some white poser trying to convince us that you are truly a native by writing things at the end of your letters that people don't understand, don't want to understand and just don't care about right? E KUM N MINHA BOCA is more like it!! LOL! I bet your penis is the size of a matchstick . . . Now back to the coloring books and crayons with you - go on now!!

you can "catch" dementia by listening to samba drums and attending luaus, as most of us creatures of the tropics have unfortunately developed

The word you were looking for was stupidity instead of dementia.

"Americans just don't get it...We want your money, not friendship... "

No, think we understand quite well, that's why we want you f**kers out!!! Because you don't intend on contributing ANYTHING. So, when YOU arrive in America, and some American treats you like a piece of s**t, don't start crying, because you only got what you deserve!

A Vila Isabel faturou o carnaval do Rio!
Okole Hau

When we come to Brazil we get what we want - we f**k your women and buy your property!!! Your own women know you are scumbags who are not worth the effort. Besides it's hard to make a future with a man who sells mobile phone chargers on the street (and who apparently has a small dick according to what most Brazilian women have told me). LOL!!!

Ach her Doktor
Ich habe fieber
und kopfschmerzen habe ich auch
seit Vorgestern
tut mir weh den ganzen Bauch!!!
Aloha
Okole Hau

http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/

How sad it must be for you guys to have to go all the way to South America to get laid ! "We f**k your women", big deal, so do we when we go to the US. I think it's the funniest thing how "sad but true" thinks of himself as "a guy who works out and has no problems picking up babes", so why in the world aren't you in the comfort of your own home in the US watching your big screen plasma TV with a hot chick ? You had to go all the way to somewhere inland in Brazil to find a poor girl that admires you and you're sitting with her family watching a novela on a 19 inch TV ? And you're courting her family too ? What kind of a phony cheese ball are you ?
You have no game whatsoever and your whole persona has no essence of it's own. And any Brazilian girl will notice that, sooner or later. "Blending in" in Brazil is just bs, you just want to get laid. That's the only reason you are in Brazil in the first place. So don't complain if someone sees through you, takes you for a ride then cashes out your account and dumps you. Isn't that what you were looking for ?(the ride). You just didn't expect to pay that much, that's all. If you were to do it at home you'd spend the same amount some greedy American woman and the ride probably wouldn't even be that good.

Border Patrol Chief David Aguilar testified before the Senate today and made a shocking admission. In the first two months of 2006, Border Patrol agents have apprehended more than 400,000 illegal aliens trying to cross the border, compared to 100,000 apprehensions in the same two month period in 2005.

The increase in apprehensions is not due to any increase in Border Patrol agents on the border. That number has not yet increased. It is due to the promise of amnesty that our Border Patrol is capturing four times the amount of illegal aliens than the same time period last year. Minuteman sources in the Border Patrol tell us that they are literally being overrun.

There's a reason the government hasn't deported all the mexicans out of the US : they do the hard work. Who will work in agriculture doing hard labor at 5 dollars an hour ? You Americans ? Of course not. If they were to deport all the illegals your economy would be in trouble, that's all. Have you ever considered renouncing to your welfare checks and getting a job for a change ?

Maradona te perdonamos
Porque nosotros tambien tomamos!

Para ser hincha de Boca
Dos cosas hay que tener
Un pucho de marijuana
Y un long-play de chamame
Y dale Boca, y dale Booo...
Okole Hau (with heartfelt aloha...)
P.S. Alguem avise o gringo americano de BsAs que a brasileirinha deve estar chifrando ele! Se guampa fosse rosa, o topete dele era um jardim!

in case the above poster doesnt know, americans work MORE than any other peoples from any other country in the WORLD! We surpassed the Japanese some years ago. And now it appears that the Mexican military is aiding the drug and human smugglers!! You can bet your ass on one thing, if and when we get positive proof of this, the U.S. military will be coming.....then wait and see the economy in Governador de Valadares!!! LMAO! Our economy would be in trouble without the mexicans??...how ignorant you are my friend. The U.S. economy accounts for over 30% of the WORLDS economy, and thats certainly not based in manual labor, minimum wage jobs, you can bet your ass on that.

Now, on the other hand, if the U.S. were to boycott brazilian imports, which account for nearly 50% of ALL brazilian exports, and stop travelling to brazil, Americans are the largest group of tourists in brazil, now that WOULD severely affect the brazilian economy!!! You would see the real go to 10-1!!!!

kick the illegal brazilians asses out of the country, severely damaging your THIRD largest economy of "sending money back to brazil"....for the love of god man, aren't you embarrassed?

Alguem aviso o gayzinho de Polynesie que ele sempre vai ter um pintozinho de cualquer jeito. Pode falar em portugues, espanhol o alemao mas o seu amiginho vai notar um dia desses e acabou com o relacionamento!!

Uma vez uma amiga da minha esposa me contou uma historia sobre um polinesio com um pinto tao pequeno que ela nao sentiu nada, mas como vc e um gayzao nao podia ter sido vc neh?? Na verdade ela falou que a maioria dos homens de Polynesie tem pinto praticamente inexistente pq ela passou muito tempo ai. Felizmente pra voce O Brasil tem os melhores medicos para "arreglar" este tipo de problema. Boa Sorte OKHOLE FOR c**k!!

That's great that you surpassed the Japanese and all other Nations. That means you won't have to have your products made in China for instance, you are selfsufficient. You don't need immigrants working on the fields for you, you can do it yourself. You can take care of yourself that's what you're saying ? Well do it then. I suppose you don't need the oil from the Middle East either ?

First of all cabron, I don't buy into the crap the US tries to shove down my throat and call it capitalism, big screen TV etc. Try coming up here and settling down with a bitchy american chic who thinks her balls are bigger than yours, in your case I would imagine any woman has more balls than you. I treat your own women with more respect and kindness than you ever could. I don't need game pendejo you on the other hand can only play with your balls at home and kick another one and yell GOL !!! at the playground. I'd rather a brasileira take me for a one week ride than a fat arrogant bitchy americanan take me for half after 20 miserable years and college tuition money from kids hooked on meth. Try crossing the border and living this so called american dream pal, it's actually a nightmare. I prefer a hot tight bodied Bahiana to a lard assed cellulite ridden greedy gringa tramp any day of the year and will travel to Brasil any chance I get for it. I just happen to prefer women south of the border so don't complain when we show up in your neighborhood and while you have a soccer ball on your head I'll have your girlfriend bouncing on my lap yelling " GOSTOSO " I'll be cupping her ass while you'll be cupping a coconut yelling GOL !!! and out cheating on her. Don't get all pissed off cause your women prefer us over your lazy SKOL drinking ass, you're more than welcome to come over to my neighborhood and I'll gladly introduce you to some KFC obese medicated zanex popping gringas any day pal. Your said it yourself in your last sentence juevon !!!

Why should someone be embarassed to work to be able to send money home to their family if they can't do it by being at home ?
I think it's way more embarrasing to be in Iraq "fighting for democracy". You probably really believe in the contribution you're giving to these countries ?

Thank You so much for your post ! It was honest and defined Americans very well, both man and women ! May I even complement it by stating that the reason your women became the arrogant bitches that they are is the lack of spine which American man have showed while dealing with them. You consider you world s**tty, while there are thousands of people willing to venture out there and abandon their families, just to be able to send them money.
I seriously hope you are really an American, you made my day with your post and I'm sure everyone else reading is smiling as well !

Very well put ! It's like a friend of mine said : Brazilians have money problems while Americans have mental problems !

"I just happen to prefer women south of the border" ; translation: "I only get laid south of the border"
"I don't need game", translation : "I gave up playing"
" a bitchy american chick who thinks her balls are bigger than yours", translation : "I don't know how to relate to people and nobody loves me".
Way to go pal, keep embarassing your American fellows who are reading this.

We don't know how to deal with our women?? If dealing with our women includes beating them or cheating on them on a constant basis then yes I guess we don't deal with them like REAL Brazilian men!! If I had a dollar for every Brazilian man I knew who had several families going simultaneously (many without knowledge of the other families' existence!!) I would be fabulously wealthy. I have never met a Brazilian man who actually met his responsibilities by paying child support (and don't give me that "we barely make any money bulls**t") even when they have jobs. Yeah must be tough to cough up that 300 Reais por mes to take care of your illegitimate kids running around barefoot!! You're really great "lovers" in your own minds but when the time comes to take responsibility for the kids you conceived after that one night stand in a motel, that is where you really show your merit!!!

Maybe if you Brazilians worried a little bit more about improving your own lot by following the good, Christian principles the Catholic church has forced down your ignorant throats you would not be one of the most corrupt and poor countries on earth!! 180 million of you all "respecting" God's laws . . . LOL!! I love seeing the trucks that have the stickers reading "Jesus e Fiel" on them and knowing the drivers of those same trucks cheat on their wives, lie to almost everyone they meet and generally do everything Jesus wouldn't!! They flock to America as a result of their own corrupt, mendacious natures!! It's kind of a funny paradox when you think about it. You lie, cheat and steal on a daily basis (even nice middle and upper class families) and expect that things will get better. You sneak into America and send money back to perpetuate the whole process - much of the money entering into Brazil illegally. Forget the fact that 6 billion in capital flight is a considerable sum for local communities where that money would normally be spent - instead it is spent in Barra da Tijuca!!

Then you have the audacity to come here and criticize us for wanting to preserve our own standard of living - and believe it or not when low wage workers storm the US en masse it drives down the wage scale for everyone. It doesn't just affect farmers and contractors. Some of those higher paying jobs (like construction and landscaping) that local men and women need go to Mexican or Brazilian immigrants who will work for less. You can see how it drives down wages across the board.

What is that you say? - "that's the capitalist system at work" - why yes it is but remember this: you first generation Brazilians become 2nd and 3rd generation Brazilians with expectations like other 5th generation Americans. Guess what happens when you try for that higher paying job? - it goes to a first generation Mexican or Brazilian still wet behind the ears!! You are all such f**king simpletons you can't see that?? You just end up resenting the immigrants once you are no longer considered one yourself.

Oh and by the way Brazilian men don't have to venture to the US to abandon their families - they can do it in the same city and they don't even have to send money . . .

Born and bred in the US of A in a Queens NYC housing project from Colombian parents. Yeah the local fellas have no spine cause the local women ripped off their balls long ago so hence no base to stand on. They marry you based on your posessions and then want half of it when they say " I ain't in love no more ! " I know too many buddies from all different walks of life in the states that are walking around depressed cause they are middle aged and nothing going for themselves but debt, greedy children and a demon whore for an ex-wife. Oprah sure does'nt help help any, it's all man bashing in this country. Brasileiras are FEMIININE !!! an art lost on their MASCULINE north american counterparts. I have 2 divorced sisters and I don't wish them on my enemies. One is over medicated the other needs a straight jacket. I understand perfectly well why people south of the border cross our borders, my parents did it in the 60's for a better life cause my crooked imperialistic gov't was f**king up things down there and continue to do so. Just cause I live here does'nt mean I agree with the politics of those in power. Americans and Brazilians want the same thing, a safe place to live, a loving family and a way to provide for them and most of all safety for those loved ones. I help out any and every Brazilian where I live and show them how to screw the system here cause they're getting screwed there.

Obviously there's a lot of trolls baiting people in this discussion. So it's barely worth spending the time. Except for this guy who is extra dumb:

Santa Catarina? That wasn't even listed as a hurricane. No one even died, maybe two houses with light damage. I've been to new orleans six times. You've got an awfully weak argument if you mention Santa catarina.

Drought lowers crops by 9% ? WTF would you even mention that as an argument compared with tsunamis, katrina and the earthquake in pakistan?

Gun fights in Rio ? Um, it happens in favelas, do you live in those? Get yourself an apartment with a portiero in a slightly above average bairro, use common sense and you typically are fine. Most thinking people don't equate drug violence - as has been famous in LA for 20 years - as the type of terrorism you read about every day in Iraq. Just about every country on earth has a drug war. Its unfortunate that it is equated with real wars, by people who know neither firsthand. Only an embarrased iraq war supporter would dream of mentioning a favela in rio as a comparison.

As for everyone complaining about being taken advantage of in business here - congratulations, now you have come a little closer to understanding what happens to immigrants in your native country every day. And how did all those generations escape that treatment? They adapted by learning the language and culture. Sorry, only a fool or one born with a silver spoon thinks moving to a foreign country is easy.

I've only worked for brazilian companies and have always earned reais. I'm not high profile, but live well in my modest way.

I currently live in Fortaleza after living in SP and bahia. Stay out of the tourist areas - which is much like your home cities red light district - and you won't see the italians looking for whatever. Its that simple. Anyone who hangs out with a prostitute in a foreign country for more than a few hours has got serious problems anyways. Yes the city of Fortaleza itself is dirty, but so is the tenderloin in SF. So why live there? Move to Beach park, its cleaner, doesn't have prostitutes etc.

And about the catholic church, that one was pretty funny. Its declining in popularity faster than bush. Those who ignore history are merely ignorant, all the while the catholic church history in brazil has been rocky and unimpressive.

Aids? HIV/AIDS - adult prevalence rate in brazil is .7% , usa .6% as sourced by the cia factbook.

Funny looks on a train in SP with your black girlfriend? Take a ride on the L train on chicago's south side with the same girl and see what happens. To be factually accurate, you still cannot as a black person buy a house in chicago's south side west of western avenue. There's no where in brazil you cannot live as a black person. Weak argument again.

Blatantly using bad facts I guess is the best the brazil bashers can do. Unfortunately by being the loudest and dumbest is voice that carries this place - lowest common denominator rules here.

For those actually wanting to pay attention - more cool brazil facts:

USA Oil - production:
7.61 million bbl/day (2005 est.)
USA Oil - consumption:
20.03 million bbl/day (2003 est.)

Its common knowledge brazil is fastly becomming energy independant via total flex cars, alcohol and decent planning. I'm laughing my ass off while all you a*****es putting down brazil are borrowing money from china to put money in the pockets of your enemies that you're either in war with or want to be, or them with you. And its getting funnier every day.

Brazil - slightly smaller than the USA. USA population, 300 million. Brazil, 185 million. Paying U$ 300K for an average house in the boonies while I'm paying U$ 80K with a pool and an ocean view. Any one who doubts this is either trolling, doesn't speak português or is extra dumb.

screw the system huh?? Bud, bet they could give you a lesson or two. Brazilians are masters at circumventing any system, masters at fraud, computer hacking, cloning credit cards, cellular numbers, etc, etc. If it's illegal and immoral you can bet your ass brazil is a world leader.

Been married to a British, an American and a Brazilian woman in that order and
have lived in all 3 countries. Women are women what ever nationality, each has different traits but not one is better than the other in the end. There are beautiful women in all three countries,
one just as pretty as the other.

I have seen fat ugly women in all three countries and fat bitches as well.

If you got a fat bitch problem, its cause you are looking at them and associating with them and the pretty ones wont have nothing to do with you! Of course in Brazil an ugly gringo with $$$ is more attractive than a pretty Brazo with no $$$, so its easier to get the good looking ones here, especially when most of the good looking women are usually after the man with $$$$ and Americans are not usually so Safado and are more chic.

There's one important thing you forgot to mention "Know how to treat your women". Who is hiring the illegal mexicans and brazilians, driving the wages lower ? Americans are. Why ? Because you guys want to make a larger profit. So you are causing your own trouble by being greedy and your government participates by collecting taxes from illegal imigrants by giving them a TIN number (knowing that they're illegal and denying them social security benefits).
And I never said dealing with American women included beating them or cheating on them. It involves dealing with them as opposed to going south to get your bird wet and playing nice guy and culturally well rounded when all you want is to get laid.

Sad I agree with your posts. I am an American woman and there is no place in this country for a "sweet and feminine" woman. The fastpaced nature of this culture, the hard materialistic nature of this country and the cutthroat capitalistic system will turn many into bitches. Look at your own sisters. This is what happens when immigrants come to the States for a "better" life. They price they pay is for their daughters to turn into masculine she-men wielding a 10ft dick.

After being in Bahia for a week and being in a slowpaced sensual environment I recaptured my feminity and was mistaken for a Bahiana. A friend of mine experienced the same "return" of feminity after a three month stay in Cuba. After arriving back in the states both of us had to reach into our suitcases for that jock strap and 10 foot dick in order to deal with the pitbull like atmosphere of American society.

This is why I suggested you keep your woman in Brazil if you ever plan on keeping her sweet. Once she hits the states she will have to adapt to the hard greedy, fastpaced, cutthroat American culture which requires all women to be hard she-men with a set of cajones three times bigger than a mans. They will end up just like your sisters. Instead of soft feminine Latinas they will be hardened butchs because there is NO place in American society especially the workplace for a woman who cannot kick serious ass and that goes triple for women of color.

and an ocean view. And is that in an apartment with people on all sides, above and below? Or would that be a house, with 8 foot high walls and glass sticking out of the top with an electric fence? And still get robbed by the security guard and maid!!! LMAO! Energy self sufficent? Why don't you try feeding the millions that starve to death every year before you put gas in the middle and upper classes cars.

Thinking about going to live in the states? Do yourself a favor and watch fox news on cable for a couple days. Its war on terrorism 24 /7 . A long, long war with no definition of victory. Politics of fear. Police state. 800,000 women in prison, 3 million men - mostly black and foreign born. Paranoia. Racial tension. Big energy problems. Housing bubble. Guatanamo bay and loss of freedoms that made the country great a few short years ago. Justify it any way you want, its still a different place now.

In short, the USA is all rep**ation now. Past its prime, short term political gains almost spent, now with huge paybacks due for fifty years. Difficult to see the upside. That's not even mentioning the food - americans are fat because the food is awful! Like debt? Try meeting an american who is not at least 20K in debt.

Brazil has its problems, but its getting better. The opposite is true in the states - it clearly is getting worse.

Was hoping you would show up a*****e - now I can rip you a new one!!!

First I was in Floripa when that "tropical storm" hit - were you dickhead?? I watched it tear the tops off three buildings and that was looking out the front door as the storm raged!! But you were there I forgot!!

I think a 9% drop in agricultural production is noteworthy in any country. I cited that particular natural disaster as you so ineptly stated that Brazil was free from them. That is serious business to poor farmers barely getting by and is a disaster whose fallout can rather be as severe albeit in a different way. Also stop to consider the repercussions of Brazil's newfound status as supermarket to the world. See following excerpt:

Government officials acknowledge that loggers, ranchers and farmers gobbled up 10,088 square miles of Amazon rain forest in the 12-month period ending last August, an area about the size of Massachusetts.
"Their ambition is destroying nature," said Jose Tadao, a representative of Brazil's Landless Workers Movement and an advocate for small-scale farming.
Others are arguing that deforestation could ultimately limit Brazilian agriculture. Paulo Moutinho, research coordinator for the Amazon Institute of Environmental Studies, believes the deforestation could eventually change Brazil's — and Earth's — climate, reducing rainfall and the supply of water for irrigation.

So gunfights just happen in favelas eh dickhead?? My Brazilian, wife who is sitting here next to me, begs to differ. She is carioca and lived in a nicer part of Barra da Tijuca. She has seen gunfights in the apartment building across the way. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE f**k YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!! And when gunfights close the Linha Amarela that is a problem for everyone not just folks in the favelas - have you ever been to Rio?? Anyway for your information Rocinha is built next to one of the swankiest parts of Rio! No contradiction with what you say - completely in line with your statement - IDIOT!!! OH and just get an apartment with a porteiro in a middle class bairro eh? Spoken like a guy living on daddy's money. Gee all ex-pats and Brazilians alike can just pack up and move to a better part of town whenver they please!! - I REPEAT - YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!! I will also respectfully disagree that the fear of being burned alive on a bus or being robbed at gunpoint is not similar to the terror felt by what you would qualify "standard" terrorism - GOD U R AN IDIOT!!! I think the fear of being shot is as real for a Paulista as it is for an Israeli s**thead!!! And some of those gunfights in Rocinha sure look like gunfights in Iraq but those are no problem because those folks are black and gringos can avoid all that - YOU ARE THE BIGGEST a*****e I HAVE EVER HAD THE PLEASURE OF RIPPING APART!!

Nice of you to excuse lying and cheating - dismissing it as if people visiting Brazil have asked for it - like it's some kind of gringo tax. What a f**khead you are!! I speak Portuguese as well as you and that has not prevented me from being overcharged at a restaurant or having a credit card cloned dips**t!!!

Catholic Church - unpopular - wow you do live in a different Brazil than the one I know where each cabbie says the Hail Mary and rubs the rosary everytime they pass a church. And I guess abortion is illegal for some other reason and not the catholic church - dips**t!!! And if there is a decline with the Catholic Church it just means more Evangelicals!!

So by saying that racism exists in Chicago means that it is a non-factor in Sao Paulo - wow you make some really stellar arguments!!! Are you now accepting that Brazil has some racial problems - is that your pansy ass way of backpeddling??

Here are some other fun facts about Brazil:
Abortion is still illegal!
Brazil's 3rd largest industry behind beef and soy: sending money home (to Brazil) from the United States to the tune of 6 billion anually!!
Brazil: Highest number of gun murders per year:
http://www.csgv.org/news/headlines/bloomberg_brazil.cfm
Brazil: +1 American faggot
USA: -1 American faggot

USA population: 300 million with thousands of Brazilians trying to leave their "paradise" behind to illegally enter the US and siphon off money made on the backs of horrible wars and over-oil consumption to feed their families who, let's not forget, already live in paradise!!!

You have just been served f**khead - YOU JUST GOT YOUR ASS WHIPPED!!! GENUFLECT BEFORE ME BITCH!!

Are you really married to a Carioca ? Seems like you didn't learn anything from her. Chill out, go smoke a joint or something. You sound like an idiot and I'm startinging to feel sorry for you wife. That storm in Floripa must have really traumatized you, sorry to hear that. But how are all these other problems affecting you (even if they are true). Get some rest and some sex, it'll pass.

"Why don't you try feeding the millions that starve to death every year before you put gas in the middle and upper classes cars."

Better than borrowing money from the chinese to give money to your islamic jihad friends to blow your stupid ass up on my television for a five second blurb on fox news!

You fall into the extra dumb category: There are no "millions that starve to death every year" in brazil. Bad facts == extra dumb.

Still leading the world in gun murders (and no sign of that abating after the referendum eh?). Police state in the US you say? Funny you mention that because I have never been harrassed or extorted by any police like Brazilian cops. Oh and they run a pretty good death squad for those pesky kids in the favelas too!!

Yes as soon as Brazil pays off its 200 Billion dollar external debt and stops replacing that with internal debt everything will be just fine and everyone will live happily ever after. And you are right there is absolutely no racial tension in Brazil to speak of (unless you consider that most of the disenfranchised in Brazil are minorities, primarily blacks). That is fair to use in my argument isn't it? I mean we only imprison black men in the States and that is racism so I guess the same applies to Brazilian blacks' imprisonment in favelas eh. I guess it's just coincidence that mostly blacks live in urban squallor. GOD I LOVE TEARING YOU PEOPLE A NEW ASS!!!

Yes Americans are all in debt - try finding one who is not 20K in debt. Try finding a Brazilian who can afford to go to college or actually has a job that pays more than 5 dollars a day. Try finding one who can even get a loan to buy an apartment of their own - but I guess they are all so family oriented they like sharing a 2 bedroom apt. with a family of 6 until they turn 35, get married off or die in a bus burning . . .

Those of you who are writing from America - get the f**k out!! The rest of us don't want you. Yes leave us to our dirty little wars and ugly, fat women ok. Oh and to the woman who says she found her femininity in Brazil (Translation = Baranga who finally got laid) - don't you mean you actually had that 10ft. dick removed during your sexual reassignment surgery by the excellent plastic surgeons in Brazil. I would love to see a pic of you! Did you learn what Baranga means while you were in Brazil? No that was not a complimentary word those men were shouting at you as you walked by . . .

Why do you think my Brazilian wife is married to me instead of a cheating scumbag Brazilian like you? - because she wanted more than a small dick and the lifestyle that selling mobile phone chargers (or grass in your case) on the street can provide!!! Don't feel sorry for her. I don't cheat on her. I don't beat her and don't run off to smoke a joint to deal with my problems - do you moron?? I would feel sorry for her if she had to come home to your mother's apartment to get some serious 2 inch dick from you in the laundry room! LOL!!! By the way how many illegitimate children do you have?? Smoke a joint - it won't pass and you will still wake up tomorrow and sell more mobile phone chargers or juggle tennis balls for a Real or two. You may even turn a trick and get to suck a gringos c**k and see what a normal size one looks like!! LATER FAGGOT!!

Do you have a Carioca wife??? Didn't think so!!! LOL!!! LOSER!!!

Guy from floripa - its so satisfying knowing that the guy who wants to rip my a*****e apart:

1) Has a favorite word of dickhead and a vocabulary that shows little else.
2) Thinks 'vai com deus' and rubbing a plastic idol means religious dedication.
3) Fails to understand his own govenment already destroyed his own forests and therefore has little room to criticize.
4) Thinks his own very meager suffering and a few local stats compare with katrina and the tsunami.
5) Thinks his own gulibility means that every one else is dumb like him.
6) Is convinced everywhere else is better than the place he chose for himself.

Your self importance is unimpressive. Your massive use of foul language and girl problems show clear signs of sexual frustration, exemplified by your overuse of 'dickhead', 'ripping ass' and inventing strange delusions of others people's sexual life that they never have met . Brazil is a good place to hire some one to help you with that you know.

I was going to say the same thing : this guy seems to have a bigger problem than anything said on this board. Perhaps a sexual problem. Does not act like he is having a good time married to a sweet Brazilian woman. It's also funny how easily he gives it away.

Don't let your wife (if you really have one) see your comments on this board ! She'll get turned off in a second. Oh wait, was she ever turned on by you ? By your money is my best bet (in case any of what you say is true that is). You sond more like a lying problematic teenagaer.

On the contrary my vocabulary far exceeds yours DICKHEAD!! I cannot recall saying anything about vai com deus - oh and isn't Brazil still the largest Catholic country in the world? Those Catholic churches sure are full up on Sunday for such undisciplined people . . . Again you must be living in a fantasy world to honestly believe that they are not dedicated to the church, Catholic or otherwise! See I tear your arguments apart - you reply by pointing out my "foul languague" GASP. The fact remains you were soundly whipped little fella!!
I'm quite sure I understand my goverment as well as you - IF NOT BETTER. I imagine you as the guy who got his ass kicked in America a lot growing up so you fled to Brazil. You have shown however that you don't know the Brazilian government at all! I normally live in Telluride, CO which is near the Wenimuche National Forest (the largest in the United States and not shrinking a bit), Furthermore the US has more trees today than it did 250 years ago a*****e!!! Local Stats - would those be the 9% drop in agricultural production because I would qualify the entire country of Brazil as more than "local"

My dumb friend, you are obviously the only gullible one here today!! You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and did not respond directly to anything I stated. You will notice that I did respond to all of your erroneous points!!

And I am quite sure you know all about hiring people to help you with sexual frustration!! I don't imagine you do get laid much. Oh and for future reference why don't you try addressing the issues instead of the man - in the real world we call that an ad hominum attack. I attack your arguments first then proceed to point out what a DICKHEAD YOU ARE!!!

Funny thing - DO EITHER OF YOU IDIOTS HAVE GIRLFRIENDS, WIVES, GAY LOVERS? I would say the latter but either way Dickless seems to be dialed into the prostitution scene so I am going to guess no!! But I will stand by gay lover! LOSERS!

hey dickhead, take your translations and shove them up your ass along with your soccer ball, by the way I told my sister about you, she'd love to meet your sorry ass, she won't be on her meds and in the straight jacket so you'll have the pleasure of dealing with her in all her glory. Make sure you pick her up in a Lexus so leave your skateboard at home and be prepared to take her to the most expensive restaurant in town, break your piggy bank or empty your socks cause she'll order two meals, one for eating there and another to go for the week. Don't be a cheap f**k and try ordering a SKOL as she deserves the best, a bottle of a vintage 1914 Chateau Lafiete will do just fine, she'll wear her extra strength XXXL control top pantyhose to hide her bulging gut and cottage cheese thighs, as well as caked on make-up with hooker red lip stick, with matching red pumps with reinforced steel shaft heels to hold up her massive behemoth hips, tell her she looks stunning every 10 minutes otherwise she'll think you don't care, hand feed her some Zoloft like they were skittles if she gets cranky and accuses you of staring at other women, tell her you want her to be the mother of your stupid chidren, have a 5 karat diamond ring ready and present it to her before she orders 5 pieces of cheesecake for dessert and don't be a cheap f**k and use a cubic zirconia cause she can tell the difference from dating Hassidic jews from the diamond district on 47th street and a couple of pawn shop brokers from the hood who taught her the 4 C's, color, cut, clarity & carat, then she'll give you the 4 D's , depressed, debted, dicked and dead. Expect her psychiatrist to walk her down the aisle and give her away, she's no virgin but be prepared to spend $ 10K on her white Versace wedding gown, we're poor from being in capitalist debt so you'll have to pay for the wedding. Be prepared to play leap-frog on your wedding night at the all exclusive resort ATLANTIS as she'll have a " Jockstrap-On " and 10 ft dildo to use on you, if you have'nt already had one in your ass which would'nt surprise me anyway since a can of SKOL has probably found it's way there in one of your drunken soccer stupors when Vasco or Corintians loses a match. If you don't live happily ever after I'll be glad to hook you up with my other sister. Translate that Puto !!!

DICKLESS WONDER SAID IN FIRST POST:

"Its easy to get a good job here as a foreigner IF you are an Engineer, Doctor, or many other white colar fields. I'm a computer programmer and I have been employed non-stop since arriving."

DICKLESS SAYS IN FOLLOWING POST:

"Sorry, only a fool or one born with a silver spoon thinks moving to a foreign country is easy."

WHICH IS IT BITCH?? YOU ARE BETTER OFF NOT RESPONDING AT ALL LEST THE BLOODLETTING CONTINUE - OR WILL YOU EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE ME GIVEN MY LIMITED VOCABULARY?! ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY EX-PAT. IS HE THE NEXT CHAUCER OR ONLY A LONELY, "younger person that drinks out late often and does a lot of walking, riding the bus etc." WALK HOME ALONE A LOT YOUNG PERSON??? YOU CAN'T EVEN CALL YOURSELF A MAN CAN YOU?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

DICKLESS ALSO SAID:

"I've been to new orleans six times." YOU ARE ONE FUNNY MOTHERf**kER I WILL GIVE YOU THAT MUCH!!! So you've been to New Orleans six times, and. . . . . Was that recently? Did you actually see the damage to New Orleans or did you just want to share that interesting little titbit with us for no particular reason!! I thought you have been working non-stop since arriving in Brazil or did you get paid vacation to visit hurricane ravaged New Orleans? Are you retarded? NO seriously - you are a slightly retarded right?

I just have to put one more thing out there for the people who will read this to judge for themselves. HERE IS WHAT DICKLESS SAID IN HIS ORIGINAL POST: BRAZIL DOES NOT HAVE . . .

"4) Racial problems anywhere near the scale of North America and Europe."

THESE WERE MY RESPONSES:

"Racial Problems - are you kidding? 90% of Brazil's poorest citizens are Black or Indian. That in itself qualifies as racism in North America, but not in Brazil? The overwhelming majority of favela residents are black. No - no racial inequality there. I Find blacks represented equally in advertising on billboards or tv too. You would think that Brazil is entirely white if you judged it by the billboards of Giselle Bundchen and other WHITE models."

"And you are right there is absolutely no racial tension in Brazil to speak of (unless you consider that most of the disenfranchised in Brazil are minorities, primarily blacks). That is fair to use in my argument isn't it? I mean we only imprison black men in the United States and that is racism so I guess the same applies to black Brazilians' imprisonment in favelas eh? I guess it's just coincidence that mostly blacks live in urban squallor."

TO WHICH DICKLESS RESPONDS: THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME (NOT MY ARGUMENTS YOU'LL NOTICE)

"5) Thinks his own gulibility means that every one else is dumb like him."

DICKLESS ALSO HAD THIS TO SAY:

"There's no where in brazil you cannot live as a black person."

OH REALLY?? Besides world reknowned soccer players (who like to claim they are white anyway), how many blacks live in mansions in Brazil? You are right, technically they are allowed to live wherever they want but do they have the social mobility to do so . . . ?

I suppose the landless Indians in the Northeast are being treated fairly too eh DICKLESS? (you don't mind if I call you that do you? - it just seems to fit) Funny that appears to be a HUGE problem in Brazil. I have been to the Northeast and spoken with many Indians and they felt race was their BIGGEST problem in Brazil! These links are about Indians:

http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/5363/53/
http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/5209/53/
http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/5074/53/
http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/4952/
http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/4865/

These links are about blacks:
http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/4632/
http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/4615/
http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/4553/
READ THOSE DICKLESS!! YOU ARE THE GULLIBLE a*****e AFTER ALL AREN'T YOU?? NO PROBLEMS THERE EH? NOT LIKE ON THE SCALE OF THE GOOD OLE USA!!! YOU ARE TRULY AND IDIOT

I know most of you agree with chucklehead here but I wan't someone to analyze what he said and tell me that the race issue isn't as big if not bigger than that in the United States. I would love to hear from some blacks instead of middle class bitch-ass-trick white boys like Dickless.

Shut up idiot. Learn to keep a conversation without insulting anyone. Like it's been said before your self importance is unimpressive. No one cares to even read your argument/yelling/foul language on this board. You are seriously mentally disturbed. Why don't you go to the restroom and throw a punch in the mirror ?

"Stay in Brasil it's better".

First of all I truly hope you can get your message out and accomplish your mission, but it appears to be a losing one, as currently they're processing 140 passports a day in governador de valadares alone with an estimated 80% headed to the U.S., illegally of course. Now how would you feel, if your brasilian, about having 20 million illegals in your country and hundreds of thousands more coming every month?Now you can attempt and justify it by saying the big corporations or others need minimum wage workers, blah, blah, blah, but how do you think the average american feels about this? The answer is obvious by the formation of the Minute Men group that will soon be in every state in the country.

A police state? Don't know where you are at sonny, but there is certainly nothing that even comes close to a "police state", evidently you don't know what that is. And if your talking about stricter guidelines for the entry of foreigners, well that was a consequence of 9-11, once again, FOREIGNERS.

As far as Guatanomo Bay and loss of Freedoms??? For the love of christ, get off your soapbox, guess we should treat them with the utmost respect and courtesy as they plan to destroy our society. Unfortunately because of their own actions or affiliations, they're not being affording the priviledge of the rights of an american, as well they shouldn't. American rights are not a god-given right that can never be taken away, just ask a convicted felon.

As far as the national debt, from the years 1981 until 1988 the U.S. went from being the largest creditor in the world, to the largest debtor with a deficity of 2.6 TRILLION. By 1998 not only did the U.S. get "out of debt", but had a surplus of 70 billion!!! The current number of 319 billion dollar deficit reported by the U.S. treasury is LESS than a mere 4% of the GNP of the U.S.'s estimated 12 TRILLION dollar economy! Which is 33% of the WORLDS economy. So you see that when one looks at a deficit of a country, you have to look at the economy of the country, and based on a % of GNP.

When one has countries, such as brazil, that have deficits that hit the areas of 20-30% of GNP, or PIB as brasilians call it, that is when one has problems, inflation, high interest rates, unemployment, etc.....sound familiar?

One gift the Brazos have is being able to
say how bad things are while they are F-cking you! If you f-ck them back they squeal like women.

Getting back to the article that started this conversation, if you pick it apart like we have been picking apart our own comments, I do not know about you but to me its hog-wash, looks like anyone with a keyboard these days is a journalist and is not responsible to be factual. Where are some real examples that back up her claims? This article should be filled under the fantasy section! For God sakes what is the world coming too? And
why isn't she here backing up her own story? Or is she the one with the 10 incher posting here?


The mass migration has not only begun, it is in full swing. "Go west young man!" has become "Go South Old Man."

She would have done better to write:

The mass migration has not only begun, it is in full swing. "Go to São Pauloyoung man!" has become "Go to the U.S.one and all."

SHUT UP IDIOT!! Spoken like a true 3rd grader!! LOL!! Please no more tough talk like that tiger!! You are a mental dwarf and you know it!!! You cannot respond or add anything because you don't have the ammo or the sack! Go throw a punch at the mirror!!! Good one. I can almost imagine you doing that when you looked at your face before heading off to high school - that greasy teen face full of zits and shame!!! You must have some experience in that!! Be honest now - you got the s**t kicked out of you a lot when you were younger didn't you? You're pretty effeminate and homely and don't get much attention from women . . . In a society with so many hot women and zero access to them (except through prostitution) Brazil must be sheer torture for you! So keep writing in, because I can always recognize your weenie-ass style and I will rip you up some more ok younger person!! And hey, don't let all those alpha males out there get to you - you have your place at the bottom of the food chain and you will get used to it down there....MMMKKK little fella

LET'S HAVE A SHOW OF HANDS FROM ALL OF YOU YANKS WHO HATE THE USA ENOUGH TO COMPLETELY DEBASE AND DERIDE IT HERE!!

OK NOW LET'S SEE A SHOW OF HANDS FROM ALL YOU YANKS WHO HAVE RENOUNCED YOUR US CITIZENSHIP IN EXCHANGE FOR BRAZILIAN AS IS YOUR RIGHT? THOUGHT SO!! NUFF SAID - SHUT THE f**k UP OR GET THE f**k OUT!!! YOU ALL HAVE BIG MOUTHS BUT WON'T DREAM OF GIVING UP YOUR US STATUS - f**kING HYPOCRITE, GUTLESS COWARDS!!! GO GET MURDERED OR BURNED ALIVE IN A BUS IN BRAZIL BY JOAO PSYCOPATA!!

LET'S ALSO HAVE A SHOW OF HANDS FROM ALL THE BRAZILIANS WHO HAVE COME IN HERE DERIDING AMERICA BUT HAVE APPLIED FOR A VISA AND BEEN REJECTED! BE HONEST!!

Shut up idiot - yeah pretty strong language - careful with that one mate, you got your hands full!! . . ."Learn to keep a conversation without insulting anyone". You can almost see the tears running down his puffy little red cheeks while he writes that. He's probably standing next to the water cooler at work right now trying to get some sympathy from his Brazilian co-workers who likely hate his skinny American ass! Did the meanie hurt your feelings?? LOL what a pussy!! I think your assessment of the arse hits it right on the head... effeminate, little exposure to pussy (except the one between his own legs).

are bullies, rude, ignorant, cultureless and foremost, LARD ASSES!

You know what? I keep my Brasilian passport whereas the american version makes one a walking target.....hehehe!

Funny thing is we can insult them in their native language...Conversely, I don't think so!

Long Live Osama, short live butcher Bush (the chimp)...

Dear Longhorn Gringo:
Dance the frevo beat:
"Nesse carnaval
Voce vai sair de diabo
Ja tem os chifres!
So falta o rabo!"

Boy you guy's are a load of bitches.I thought women could bitch, seems you've pass the mark. Could anyone imagine any Brazilian women/men having an argument with a bunch of guy's with poison mouths?. Jesus, ain't never heard such filth....Nuff said....

I'm an American and love my country, I hate the poltics of my gov't and the way it bullies other nations and how my standard of living is getting worse every year. I just wanna live and be happy same as you want in Brazil. I don't blame you for trying to get into America and send $$$ back to your family, I'd do the same. Democracy in the US is a farce. I'd never renounce my citizenship simply cause it would come in handy at some point, I'd marry a Brasileira and have a kid with her to get dual citizenship, I'd just use the system in both countries the same way they would use me. I owe allegiance to no one especially if the taxes they steal from me are used to bomb poorer nations and enrich the elitists themselves.

in brazil you would have to renounce you american citizenship in order to get a brazilain one. dual nationality is illigal as far as i know. but thats not to say brazilains dont get away with it.

Americans who stand by their country through thick and thin will recognize your "it will come in handy someday" bitch ass as everyone here does. You must be under the impression that I love all of our countries policies and especially that of my government, but I also see that America has given me a lot - an education, freedom of speech, the right to private property, etc. I'm certain it has done the same for you! I also remember and respect the people who have fought and died for our country (and many other countries) regardless of who is running things a*****e!!

" It will come in handy" - why don't you stay in Brazil as fair weather faggots like you are of no intrinsic value in this world. Plus you can't have dual citizenship as an American f**khead. You don't even know you're own country but I suppose you know Brazil better . . . Hope you don't get shot down there . .

Jesus ain't never heard such filth (nor has he heard such horrible grammar - oh that's right f***********a, babaca, idiota nao vale nada brasileiro - you can insult us in portugueuse but we are far too stupid to do likewise - lol!!) not until he watched Brazilians doing business - cheating and lying with every breath they take. Poison mouths - hey easy fella - watch that stern language - Loser!!

Oh and you Americans down there enjoy your time with your Brazilian "friends" who would say "long live Osama" Good for you - you f**king cowards deserve one another! When you come back to America for a visit be sure and advertise that you are only there because it will come in handy. Easy to be a f**king coward here anonymously, but why don't you give me your name and where you can be reached in America and we can make sure Americans know what a chickens**t you are.

Cultureless!! - I would not be so quick to boast of Brazil's lying, cheating, murderous culture rife with marital infidelity, prostitution and racism. Wow that is a super duper culture!! Yes god bless you where would the world be without Samba, Bossa Nova and Caphoeira . . .

in brazil you would have to renounce you american citizenship in order to get a brazilain one. dual nationality is illigal as far as i know. but thats not to say brazilains dont get away with it.

I do not blame him for not having any loyalty to his country, America in this century has only gotten into wars because of the corporations that have their assets in 3rd world countries exploiting the local labor and when those countries leaders say they want to repatriate them the US Corpotocracy sends in the military to put in a puppet gov't more to their liking, what do you call US soldiers crossing into Canada to avoid going to Iraq in an illegal war ? Are they cowards too ? Most soldiers fight a war that the people are forced into since their leaders are inept at diplomacy or just to make a profit at the cost of US taxpayers and young men and women thinking they are fighting for a cause. The last real cause was back in 1776 against King George now we have 2006 and King George is back.

SO TURN IN YOUR PASSPORT AND STAY IN BRAZIL. AND REMIND EVERYONE IN AMERICA THAT YOU THINK IT SUCKS WHEN YOU ARE THERE OK. OH AND TELL YOUR BOSS OR THE CEO OF THE CORPORTATION YOU ARE WORKING FOR THAT THEY SUCK TOO YOU f**kING GUTLESS HYPOCRITE!!

SOLDIERS CROSSING INTO CANADA TO AVOID THE IRAQI WAR - DON'T YOU MEAN VIETNAM?? YOU HAVE JUST SHOWN WHAT AN IDIOT YOU ARE TOO. AT LEAST AMERICA IS LOSING ITS DUMBEST AND DIMMEST!! GOD YOU GUYS ALL REGURGITATE THE SAME s**t! THE WAR IS REALLY MAKING THE US A HUGE PROFIT RIGHT NOW ISNT IT MORON? THOUSANDS DEAD AND 700 BILLION AND COUNTING - YEAH WE ALL AGREE THAT WE ARE FIGHTING THIS FOR THE OIL - SIMPLETON!!!! YES CORPORATIONS SUCK AND HALLIBURTION IS MAKING A KILLING (LITERALLY). IT'S NOT YOUR PANSY ASS DOING ANY OF THE FIGHTING SO SUCH YOUR f**kING DICKSUCKER!1

blah blah blah blah blah !!! Another perfect example of a loud mouthed american, wrap your confederate flag around your neck and hang yourself would you please !

They sure like to talk loud and act tough don't they ? But in their country, everytime they get in trouble they try to sue somebody for it (a lot of the times even when they're not in trouble). Always trying to blame it on someone else to make a profit. Only wimps do that kind of stuff. Don't real men take responsibility for their actions ?
If they could only stop the bitching : "I don't like my government, I don't like immigrants, I don't like Brazil, don't like Brazilians, I can't get laid unless I go to Brazil, the American dream is a night mare, don't like my woman because she has bigger balls than mine, etc, etc, etc." Incidentally I think your women do have bigger balls than you. At least they have the balls to say something in public against Bush (was is Barbara Streisand or Madonna ?), while all the other male artists keep their mouths shut.

How's that extra 70 billion ? You mean to tell me that with all that infrastructure you have you were still unable to come up with a solution for alternative fuel like Brazil did ? How do those disorganised,poor third world citizens do it and you can't ?

one more reason americas should move to brazil.
americams have more money then sence
makes them perfect for the job
poor deluded bastards!!

I find it funny how the discussion always turns into an anti-American free for all. If anything, it's just an indication of a serious global inferiority complex (although, of course, no one would ever admit it). And as far as the ridiculous alternative fuel comment...the US does have the means and the technology to use ethanol and other alternative fuels...the reason we don't is that ethanol is far more expensive here than in Brazil (we would have to import most of the sugar), and petroleum is far cheaper here than in Brazil. It's a matter of economics, not technology. I do understand, this is classic brazilian line, just like Brazil "invented" the airplane four years after the Wright Brothers.

Once again an example of how short sighted you are. "Alternative" can mean anything, not just ethanol. Go ahead and compare the amount of money and effort spent on the war versus the amount spent on research and execution of a solution for alternative fuel. You really are smart, a true "superior" psychologist, so capable and entiled to detect an "inferiority complex". And subtle as an elephant as you drive away in your suv, by yourself !

As I sit here reading all these post and not more than a few hours ago I caught a Brazilian try to scam me and led him out the front door, he turned around and said I guess this means we are not doing business, I replied you guessed right, him yelling that I was crazy on the street as I shut the door, I returned to my office confused as to why does he think I am so stupid when
he was the thief, you got to say they got balls even after they are caught with their hands in your pocket.
If this was the first time this had happened I would be in shock as to understand the situation, but since it is a common occurrence, it just makes we wonder where they grow these idiots?

I got to get out of this s**thole before it is too late!

Thank you George Bush!

Thank Lula...

As a sit here reading, a teacher is going to lose his job in Denver for speaking against the world's number one butcher. I wonder where our "freedom" went...
P.S. Ethanol can also be made of beets and corn...(no need to import sugar cane).

Why would you be dealing with Brazilians even after a second occurence if you didn't think there was something in it for you ?

Why are stupid enough to ask that question? By the way who are you stealing from, you should be at work right now!

As a sit here reading, a teacher is going to lose his job in Denver for speaking against the world's number one butcher. I wonder where our "freedom" went...

A teacher has to be accountable to his profession and according to the school broke the schools policy.

So, It's O.K. to speak well of the regime, but forbidden to say otherwise? This is brainwashing my dear. For instance, there are pictures worldwide showing what happened in India during Bush's visit. Riots, bombings, massive protests, etc. Try to find them in the American media. U.S. policy is to keep us under control, living in a permanent state of fear.

You did not comprehend the article you read, go back and read it again.
For God sake show some intelligence!

At times, showing intelligence means questioning authority. Do not believe in all you read in the American media. Perhaps, if you could muster a foreing language, you would undoubtly have a broader access to information (from all sides inlvolved, for instance), rendering you capable of a better understanding or, at least, spotting contradictions.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open one's mouth and remove all doubt.”

The associated press reported the article, translations were made to
the countries perfered language.
Where do you think they get their news stories from?
If anything happened the content of article was changed by the host country.

You should really be more intelligent and question secondary sources.

The point is, what you read in the US, regardless of the source, is filtered in order to satisfy and assure the Americans that they are always on the "righteous" side. Forget AP, check the Aussie news for instance, or even the Brits in case you cannot read other languages. Happy discoveries!

Accuracy to a newspaper is what virtue is to a lady; but a newspaper can always print a retraction.

I concede Aussie newspapers are a better sourse for American news, they
like covering the local high schools!
"Sick Bastards"

But then again I once dated a koala, see a kawala will not steal your dosh!

no.... we just hate ya

WE both know you have one and we just laugh at ya

Yet another example of the compassionate, loving brazilians.

and that's with us buying HALF of all your exports and providing the largest number of tourists to your country and without question, tourist revenue. Don't worry, we'll make sure that the american tourists and importers see these responses. We only hope that we can give you a REAL reason to hate us, as you have to us, in s**tting all over our country with your 1 million illegals. But hopefully a boycott of all Brazilian products and american tourists to brazil should do the trick nicely!!!

Returning to the ethanol comment...yes, I know it can be and already is derived from sugar beets and corn...but, yet again, it would be more expensive than gasoline (in California, its above 70 cents more per gallon). So until gasoline prices go up or sugar beet and corn prices go down, gasoline will still be the preferred fuel. The fact that Brazil has an enormous quantity of super cheap sugar does mean in any way that Brazil somehow values alternative fuel more than the US.

Returning to the ethanol comment...yes, I know it can be and already is derived from sugar beets and corn...but, yet again, it would be more expensive than gasoline (in California, its above 70 cents more per gallon). So until gasoline prices go up or sugar beet and corn prices go down, gasoline will still be the preferred fuel. The fact that Brazil has an enormous quantity of super cheap sugar does NOT mean in any way that Brazil somehow values alternative fuel more than the US.

I understand this sight is full of Brazilians (and American pussies) with a serious Charles Bronson complex (tough guys that you are - as tough as you can be with the stature of a garden troll), but I find consistent Brazilian support for Lula to be a poignant indicator of why they find themselves in such a deplorable way.

He is obviously a scumbag liar, but then again that is a permissable if not prized characteristic in Brazil (as so many others have discovered about Brazil). He has little education - just like most Brazilians. He possesses no mastery of his own language - again like most Brazilians. He stands about 5ft. tall and talks tough - just like most Brazilians and is incredibly ignorant -like most Brazilians. I especially loved it when he brought Cachasa to a meeting with Islamic leaders . . . That is so Brazilian it isn't funny.

The last poster was right - the world praises you for your rich culture of Caphoeira, Samba and Bossa Nova (heavy sarcasm here) but secretely looks down on you and laughs. You think you are players but you're still just little kids trying to sit at the adult table. Keep buying into your own press right up until the next economic meltdown!! Stick with it little fella - you'll get there someday with your Ethanol and Soy Beans!! Just heep on being the world's bitch producing Ford and Volkswagen cars and Whirlpool and Philips appliances within your own borders like good little neo-colonial parasites. Doesn't that burn you up that you are still working for Americans or Europeans even when you are living in your own country??
HA HA HA!!!

Killer Bush called Pakistan a member of the Arab world...Isn't it funny?

You guys do not know s**t about alternative fuels until you read this:

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/03/03/japan.cow.dung.ap/index.html

So does the Economist, Arab World Analysis, and others. What do you call it? Indo-European World, Asian World, Central Asian World. (I would say as Muslims they are more closely associated with the Arab World than the Indians they are bent on going to war with)- yeah that is f**king hilarious!

Perhaps we Can squeeze Brazilians and Mexicans and make gasoline too?

Who cares how tall Lula is ? Is that really relevant ? Lula is not brilliant everyone knows that, but at least he's harmless. How about "consistent support for your president will be a poignant indicator of where you'll be in the future"? I think you should be more concerned with the new generation of war veterans that will start coming back to your country, with arms and legs missing, serious mental problems and nothing left but horrible experiences and knowledge with guns, explosives, etc. I'm not sure if Thimothy Mc Weigh was a war veteran but you know the type I'm talking about and how it ends.
These guys will have paid a really high price for you to keep driving your SUV and spending your time talking s**t on the internet bragging about your country and they may not think it was worth it.
Your kids are also a reason for concern. Growing up without a good family base and values, with notrhing but your biased media and videogames to base themselves on, how are they going to keep that great nation of yours in the future ?
So you are the adult ? Well. the world looks down on you but not secretly at all.

Whats this 12 wars so far...

how are they going to keep that great nation of yours in the future ?

liberdade ou morte...sound familiar?
Maybe we will bail your Brazilian asses out when China invades you?


Revolutionary War
The War of 1812
Mexican War
Civil War
Spanish-American War
World War I
World War II
Korean War
Vietnam War
Persian Gulf War
Afghanistan War
Iraq War
Cold War

"These guys will have paid a really high price for you to keep driving your SUV"


You are right, they have paid a high price, in many cases the ultimate price, as millions of americans have done before....in the name of freedom. You see freedom is not free, and most times is paid in blood, but this is nothing that a brazilian can even attempt to understand. The lack of patriotism that brazil exhibits is widespread, the typical brazilian would NEVER think about risking his life for his country, and in all fairness, why should he? When seeing on a weekly basis the news of yet another local or federal scandal, politicians get caught with their pants down with bank accounts in Switzerland or the Grand Caymons with HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars in them and nothing happens to them, they're quickly set free from jail, if even put there to begin with, impunity rules! So the brazilian is left to feel helpless, "what can we do?".

With programs such as Luz para todos(lights for all), Agua para todos(water for all), Fome Zero(zero hunger), where statistics from the federal website itself states that 44 million brazilians are "threatened" by hunger, that's 20% of the population!! To one above poster that ignorantly responded, "millions of people don't die here every year from hunger." You must be an idiotic gringo that spends his time in some isolated community in one of the tourists cities while on your 10 day vacation. Death from malnutrition and dehydration, or a lack of access to suitable drinking water is a true threat to human life here, and is the cause of hundreds of thousands of deaths per year if not millions.....why do you think a national program such as Fome Zero was started and by admission, the country's Number 1 priority? Because it's not a serious problem??? And Brazil has the largest percentage of fresh water in the world!! Exports BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars in agricultural products every year, yet large numbers are dying from unacessable drinking water and malnourishment?

Brazilians ARE patriots when it comes to ONE thing....football. Soon the world cup will begin and you'll see the rich, the poor, whites, blacks, browns, and all colors in between unite for their common goal of being declared world champion. And once it's over, win or lose, they'll return to their homes, if they have one, and back into their own factions and groups of SELF-INTEREST. If they only used this sense of "patriotism" in the fight against corruption in their own countries, that literally is a direct cause of death to their own people, this country would see dramatic changes, but it won't happen.

Instead many spend time and energy looking for a "scapegoat" to justify their plight, the look to the U.S. or to Europe, point their fingers and say, "It's they who have caused our reality here." Instead of looking at themselves, assuming responsibility, and demanding change from within. And if that means having to pay the "ultimate" sacrifice, then so be it. As so many Europeans and Americans have done throughout recent history to better their own causes and situations. But it will never happen, at least not in our lifetime.

You see the typical brazilian is ignorant, and it's not his fault, it's exactly the plan to be followed by the BRAZILIANS that are in power here. Keep the masses ignorant, they're easier to control. Any and all great and powerful societies throughout the history of the world have had one common denominator.....EDUCATION. And while you'll hear politicians here sputtering on about a committment to education, it's not a priority, certainly not the #1 priority, and it NEEDS TO BE. Above food, above water, above energy. Those are important and critical needs, but EDUCATION will signicicantly CHANGE this society, for the betterment of the masses, and those in power know this well, it's why it will never happen, at least not in our lifetimes, and not without a fight, yet again, sacrifice.

As far as the youth in the states, and here in brazil, two different realities, in one you have a problem of parents having the time to spend with their children, to give them guidance and the attention they so desperately need, in the other you have children that are literally fighting for survival, and instead of sitting in front of a television for hours playing nintendo, they're out in the streets at the traffic lights, as young as 4 years old, begging for coins to buy the days sustenace.

As far as world opinion, organizations look down at brazil such as the U.N. for things like child prostitution, prostitution in general, corruption that has long been epidemic, impunity from the law, hunger, child labor, slave labor, police brutality, and one of the largest discrepancies in distribution of wealth on the planet.

If only one could get that wonderful patriotic feeling that will soon be here, rooting Ronaldo and Ronaldinho onto victory in Germany, to go into their everyday lives in respect to education, infrastructure, health care, etc. And when they see their own people, such as the Maluf's of Brazil, when their overseas bank accounts are discovered, get as angry as when they see a player from England blatently commit a foul against Ronaldinho without red card getting thrown.

We love peace, but not peace at any price. There is a peace more destructive of the manhood of living man, than war is destructive to his body. Chains are worse than bayonets. -- Douglas Jerrold

im not brazilain im british

im not brazilain im british

"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."

Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Orator - 106-43 B.C.


Brazilian politicians in a nutshell!!

im not brazilain im british

you should learn to spell "brazilian" before commenting on it....and inventors of the language no less. :roll

A foreign diplomat who often criticized American policy once observed a United States Marine perform the evening colors ceremony. The diplomat wrote about this simple but solemn ceremony in a letter to his home ministry:
During one of the past few days, I had occasion to visit the U.S. Embassy in our capital after official working hours. I arrived at a quarter to six and was met by the Marine on guard at the entrance of the Chancery. He asked if I would mind waiting while he lowered the two American flags at the Embassy. What I witnessed over the next 10 minutes so impressed me that I am now led to make this occurrence part of my ongoing record of this distressing era.

The Marine was dressed in a uniform which was spotless and neat; he walked with a measured tread from the entrance of the Chancery to the stainless steel flagpole before the Embassy and, almost reverently, lowered the flag to the level of his reach where he began to fold it in military fashion.

He then r