Brazzil

Shanghai before WWW II was the place of opium, prostitution and gambling all toghether. In the 30's the Mobster even took control of Shanghai Stock Exchange and the local police did nothing. When the Real Japanase Army stormed Shanghai, they did not have pity from the Mobster and they cleaned the area. So, if Brazilian do not clean Rio de Janeiro, somebody will do.

we should invade Rio de Janeiro, take they leadrs, send to a concentration camp and make it part of Minas Gerais and also, make them learn Portugues.

You should check the stats, Minas Gerais is by far the state with the largest increase in violences and crimes for the last few years !
There was an article on this subject months ago on this same site.

here another news from today :

"Seventy-five Rio de Janeiro state police officers - most from one of the city's most violent neighborhoods - were arrested Friday as they arrived at work as part of a probe into drug trafficking.
Most of the officers were from the Bangu battalion on Rio's poor and violent west side. Rio's police are notoriously corrupt and have long been rumored to have connections to, or even control, the violent drug gangs that rule the city's shantytowns, but only occasionally are these charges proven ".

Brazil is a real Tropical mud !

and I will pack you in your (.....o.....) you little prick!

No only is Constinho a huge fan of proving to the world the mindset of your average Brazilian, but it seems he also has a penchant for gringo male bunda. Who would have thunk it?

Sabe-se seu otário que pode vender seu serviço em Rio, hien?

The militias are the correct response to bairros controlled by teenaged drug-crazed murderers with little sense of morals and values, and with the incompetent state of Rio incapable of providing order. The militias are far from perfect, another form of Mafia, but much much more preferable to the traficantes. While Rosinha's (and of course, Garotinho's) ineffective govt. let Rio slide into chaos and abandon the last eight years, other groups had to fill the vacuum. May the militias grow and flourish and also enter the middle and upper class bairros. Much better to pay a monthly fee to a group who protects you, than to live under the mercy of the criminal, while you call 190 and no one shows up for hours.

If militias kill around 100 teenagers during the night. Even the inocents ones, things will start to change. Just shot in the spot after 10 pm. If, it is not sleeping is because something is doing wrong.

Well if those militias introduce law and order, of course that would be much better than having drug lords running the show there...

Only, I have a slight feeling that these "militia" are just taking over the profitable "businesses" from the bandits... I hope I'll be proven wrong, but I don't keep my breath.

Well, militia, police are not so different. Police also make mistakes and a lot. We are human being. We make a lot things wrong.

the thing is...regular cops try to catch the drug dealers...
and these ones kill the drug-dealers instead...and then ask the residents for money...i wonder what would happen if the residents don't pay?
so u gotta think about it...who would u ratter have in the end...the drug-dealers? which only kill mostly cops
or these corrupt-cops ups..militias that kill anyone they deem "bad" and then extort the residents?
trust me...i think i'd rather stay with the drug-dealers
i used to live in a place like this and trust me...it aint that bad...
cops? they'll f**king kill anyone for $$..they don't care..all they want is $$ if they grab the money bags how much of it do u ppl think gets back to the police station?
and for drug-dealers...what they sell is bad..everyone knows that but hey...they don't extort broke people out of their pennies...in fact they actually put $$ and jobs in the community...
they're the ones that buy a lot of s**t in the neighborhood...and there's all kinds of jobs when it comes to drug-dealers...
u can be a watcher (watch for cops)...u can be a spy (go to the station and take a look at the car plates) u can be a packager (weight the drug and put it in small bags) u can be the shopping guy (the one that goes around to buy food etc...) u can be the carrier (to take drugs from X neighborhood to Y neighborhood) and all of these make decent money...specially the packagers & carriers...believe or not...a lot of these people have families to feed and don't even take drugs...to them its a day to day job like any other....now, the question is..who would u people have close to u?

Mick Jaeger said in Rio in Februrary .."All cops are criminals, all sinners are saints" ..from Friday's news ..>

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (Reuters) - Brazilian federal agents arrested 75 state police troopers on Friday for links with organized crime in Rio de Janeiro state's high-profile bid to get rid of corrupt cops.

A special federal police unit from the capital, Brasilia, and other cities arrived in Rio to make the arrests jointly with the state police internal investigations department.

In the early hours on Friday, they raided a shantytown on the outskirts of Rio where some of the officers accused of involvement in drug and arms trafficking lived. Many others were arrested at their police stations.

A federal police spokesman in Rio de Janeiro said 320 federal agents took part in the operation, which led to the largest number of arrests of police officers in Rio state in one day.

"We have to applaud this operation. It has a great symbolic value. By nabbing so many, police send a message to the force that they are being serious," said Julita Lemgruber, director of the Center for Security and Citizenship Studies at Rio de Janeiro's Candido Mendes University.

"We hope they don't stop here. We know that all kinds of organized crime blossom because they have some sort of police protection. It's high time to reduce police involvement with drugs and arms trafficking, with car robberies and cargo theft," Lemgruber added.

Lemgruber said Col. Ubiratan Angelo, Rio's next police commander who will start working in January, "is committed to the issue of human rights and the fight against illegal activities within the police force," and expected him to bring at least some improvements.

Human rights groups also accuse Rio police of brutal tactics such as summarily executing suspects in the slums and taking part in death squads. Police in the state kill about 1,000 suspects a year in consequences loosely described as "resistance to arrest," a number comparable to some war zones.

Brazil's second-biggest city, famous for its sandy beaches but also notorious for one of the world's highest murder rates, has over 600 slums, where around 1 million people live. Many of the teeming slums are controlled by powerful drug gangs.

"Can we win?? We are winning."

George Bush over the situation in Iraq.

Same comment in Brasil will get the same result

so the police are trying to make money off not doing there jobs in the first place.

go to work get paid very little , as most brasilians

see the govermental higher archy forgive themselves of all rong doing
vote in the largest raise and cut services to the public

who can blame them the hole country is set up to robe , cheet , each other
the higher up on the food chain you are the more you are able to steal and get by with it

the law in brasil is set up like most every other country , it is only used when it is usefull to
some one that is trying to get money or to get rid of some one that some one else does not like

the peole must stop this or the military will have to start all over again .

Some blame the 1988 constitution for the current problems, but the guy who produced it is unavailable for comment.

Brasileiros, falemos somente o português e deixemos esses gringos se virarem com tradutores pela rede mundial, se assim quiserem. Assim podemos conversar livremente e comentar as asnices aqui escritas por eles. Esse site não pode ser sério ao permitir coisas como bem exemplificados nesses comentários. Isso não é apenas ofensivo de uma forma inocente, mas sim proposital. O intuito desse site é denegrir a imagem do Brasil e de seu povo, portanto gastar tempo e saliva argumentando é inútil.

Escrevamos somente o português para que outros brasileiros não se iludam ao visitar o site, e deixemo-los na escuridão de sua própria ignorância.

Is any of this really legal?? If not why have the police done nothing about it! Why do the police never do anything in Brazil, they get good pay, they are decently equipped for combat they should be out there in the favelas instead of these militias who dont know what they are doing!

This seems like a short term solution. The Police are underpaid to do the job they are supposed to do. Now they appear to be "strong arming" the communities for extra funds so they actually have an incentive. It seems like every country south of the equator are facing problems like this. Are the people in these communities even recognized by the government? Do they have Identifications and government records?
What is being done to ensure that the children have opportunities? Brazil seems to be a country who is experiencing economic growth. Is the growth being transferred to the underclass. This is a major problem of the world. It happens in North American but not to the same extent. I think countries in the Carribean(Jamaica, Guyana, Trinidad),
Latin America, and South America really need to solve the problems of the underclass.

The problem is, all Brazilians find this fact (of having parallel mini-governments in favelas) as NORMAL...

No man or women should have to think of this as normal, this is awful, the police should be able to handle the problems themselves, people shouldnt have to rely on militias or whatever the superior force in the neighborhood is to protect them, it should always be the police! something has to change in brazil...

Pra 'A Brazilian'.

Eu sei que em seu mente nao pode acreditar que alguns gringos podem entender o portugues mas esta errado. O que quer fazer? Esconder a verdade e os problemas do Brasil dos Americanos e os outros gringos? Boa sorte. Melhor passar seu tempo melhorando seu pais do que ficando preocupado com que outros pessoas acham de vcs.

Abracos

Outra proposta
written by A gringo, 2006-12-30 05:29:12

I understand most of what you say.
It doen't matter to me.

A brizilian is hiding the truth.