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All Brazil Needed: An American Martyr! PDF Print E-mail
2005 - February 2005
Written by Janer Cristaldo   
Thursday, 24 February 2005 09:29

US missionary Dorothy Stang with Marina Silva, Brazil's Minister of EnvironmentThere are cadavers and cadavers, isn’t it true? Some are sacred. Others aren’t worth a penny. Killed February 12, in Anapu, state of Pará, was the American Sister Dorothy Mae Stang.

The Nation’s President, not only sent two thousand Army troops to the region, but also created natural environment preservation areas and a crisis office that will concentrate actions from ministries and federal agencies in the interior of the state of Pará – tells us Friday’s edition of the newspaper Folha de S. Paulo.

An interim measure, six decrees, and a bill proposal make up the package. Only in the state of Pará, two forest preservation units covering approximately 9.4 million acres – area equal to two Sergipe states.

Behind all this, the fear of the Nation’s President before the international press.

When the tupiniquim (a common term in Brazil, which refers to native Tupiniquim Indians, often used in a self-deprecating, mocking context) press published interviews in which he spitted out his affection for cachaça (Brazil’s potent national liquor), no restrictions toward the reporters.

As soon as The New York Times picks up what amounted to no secret to anyone, and President Lula displayed his “arrest and beat up” side, demanding the expulsion of the journalist from the country.

History repeats itself. If a Brazilian cop is killed while performing his duties, not a single reaction from the Planalto (the President’s official quarters). If a foreign activist is killed and this crime occupies the front pages of the international press, Lula transforms himself into a generalissimo and turns a police operation into a war theater.

In the same edition of the Folha, a photo in three columns shows us the ridicule that our Armed Forces undergo in an effort to support the presidential charade. Two helicopters land on a soccer field, under the watch of dozens of soldiers lying on the turf with cocked rifles.

It even seems like we are in Vietnam of the 70s or in Iraq during the war. As if the nation was threatened by a powerful guerilla force, when it is common knowledge that the nun was killed by two gunmen.  To pose for the press, the so-called glorious national Army has no qualms in contributing to “Lulesc” theatrical production.

The American religious had as mission in Brazil the disappropriation of public properties controlled by grileiros (crooked rural area dealers and brokers), the settlement of families in small farm units, and the promotion of police actions as mediators of conflicts.

Say what you may about her, but she is just another of so many foreign activists who chose Brazil as their utopian lab.

Let us invert the situation. Imagine, the reader, a Brazilian woman attempting to disappropriate land in the US or settle families. At best, she would be deported the next day. Here, in the backyard, the Yankees command land invasion, condemn government policies, and still pose as martyrs.

But the role of Chica Mendes of Anapu was not entitled to regional unanimity. On April 30, 2003, Town Council declared the missionary persona non grata, “as an act of repudiation of the people in response to her disaggregative actions.”

The document was sent to the President’s office, ministries of Environment and Justice, Congress, the state government of Pará, Ibama (Brazilian Institute of Environment), Incra (National Institute of Colonization and Land Reform), and the Federal Police – and ignored by all. Today, from what we read in the papers, her cadaver only emanates odors of sanctity.

To general Jairo Cesar Nass, Operation Pacajá commander, aimed at arresting Sister Dorothy’s killers, “the nun’s killing is only the tip of the iceberg.” For the sagacious general, there are organized gangs in the region that in an insolent fashion carry on their business, outside the law, and are used to solving their matters through intimidation and murder, creating difficulty for the security of the region.

“These gangs are made up by individuals from other areas, acting on the interest of loggers and others involved in the fight for land and illegal gold mining,” he said. They created representative bodies and armed groups that have no scruples to reach their goals.”

So broad is the general’s perspective that he doesn’t see where he is sitting, on top of this immense iceberg with so many emerged edges that already constitutes terra firma, the Landless Movement.

Not just organized gang, but organized nationally, with financial, legal, and logistic backing from the Brazilian government itself; and not just the Brazilian government, but also from international institutions that fund their land invasions, productive or not, their destruction of highway pay-tolls, their taking of hostages, their evasion of funds, and even their crimes.

Gang with free access to the highest offices of government and the press, that creates schools to form new partisans. With the applause from the so-called Human Rights advocates and the national intellectualia.

The American religious is beginning a very promising career as saint. Within a few months, we’ll have foundations and streets under her name, not to mention pilgrimages to her grave. Another year or two, some miracles to her résumé. Soon after, the beatification process.

Saint Dorothy Mae Stang, the saint of two nations: sounds good and certainly will make the movies, and of tear-dropping kind. The Amazon, with its wealth, promises a bountiful harvest of saints and martyrs in the coming years.

As to Luiz Pereira da Silva, this poor devil killed in Quipapá, state of Pernambuco, now, him no one remembers. He was tortured and murdered on the Saturday of this past Carnaval, by members of this gang so immense that general Nass can no longer get a view of, so enormous are its dimensions.

Obscure military cop, he was tortured and killed by the men from the Landless movement, while fulfilling his duties. He didn’t deserve a single mention by the President, not even a word of compassion from any minister, nor gigantic operations by the Armed Forces, nor a mass at Sé Cathedral, much less front pages throughout the international press.

Total silence from the troops that combat torture. He is Brazilian, not worthy of tears or honors. His murderers likely will not be indicted. As a member of the Landless movement already said, “in a crowd, it’s hard to know who pulls the trigger.”

Blood from the left is sacred and demands punishment. The cadaver of a cop, so dumb as to carry out his obligations in this land where all the honors and glory are bestowed on those who break the law, is not worthy of even a mass.

Janer Cristaldo—he holds a PhD from University of Paris, Sorbonne—is an author, translator, lawyer, philosopher and journalist and lives in São Paulo. His e-mail address is janercr@terra.com.br.

Translated from the Portuguese by Eduardo Assumpção de Queiroz. He is a freelance translator, with a degree in Business and almost 20 years of experience working in the fields of economics, communications, social and political sciences, and sports. He lives in São Paulo, Brazil. His email: eaqus@terra.com.br.



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missed the boat
written by Guest, February 24, 2005
cristaldo is rediculous, it's easy to beat up on the US once again for trying to preserve the natural beauty of Brazil. The article above, while trying to pin the blame on the US misses the real problems with the corrupt Brazilian government.

The inability of the Brazilian government to establish effective laws and rights for all people is the downfall of the country. Lula is a puppet that is forced to react to situations instead of taking a proactive stance on anything.

Taking cheap shots at the US for a ruthless murder is offensive.
Are we reading the same thing??
written by Guest, February 24, 2005
Janer Cristaldo is a writer for the pro-American www.midiasemascara.org The only problem I see is that he lumps all American religious workers in one group. Conservative American religious workers have been VERY successful in Brazil over the last 100 years. Thanks to them, Baptists and Pentecostals (Evangelicals) are a force to be reckoned with in Brazil!
Yes and No
written by Guest, February 24, 2005
I can only partially agree with this article. I concur that the government’s reaction over Ms. Stang´s assassination IS fuelled by Brazil looking to be perceived, internationally, as being "on the case". The fact that it was a "gringa" killed - although a naturalized Brazilian - called to attention the international press, and of course we know how Lula hates looking the fool abroad. Let’s face it; much of what this government does is simply to generate a positive image – getting to the nuts and bolts of a problem is beyond their capacity.

That said, there have been a number of killings in Pará over the last decade; environmentalists, unionists and the like, and the only ink their deaths have generated are within CPT field reports. To the general media in Brazil, like the government, their lives valued nothing - although they were doing the very same work as Ms. Stang.

Where I don’t agree, is with the comparison he made between the MST and the struggle possoeiros (spelling?) face in Pará. The MST invades lands to turn those lands (in principle) over to those who are without.

Ribierinhos and possoeiros in Pará already posses lands as well as the legal rights to use those lands, but are intimidated into leaving by wealthy grilleiros (usually funded by the bank of Amazonia, and almost always backed by local police and crocked politicians). Sister Dorothy wasn’t “stealing” lands for others; she was aiding those not wishing to be expelled from their homes. These are two very distinct struggles, regardless of whether you sympathize with them or not.
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written by Guest, February 24, 2005
www.midiasemascara.org

That link doesn´t work...you sure?
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written by Guest, February 24, 2005
Janer Cristaldo
written by Guest, February 24, 2005
is obviously a racist and follower of nazi ideology, who hates people, campesinos and indigenous people, who are fighting for their land.

I do not understand, how brazzil.com allows such right wing and racist extremists, to write in this web page?
@Janer Cristaldo
written by Guest, February 24, 2005
It´s a point of view. One I don´t subsribe to, but it´s point of view nonetheless. Read, think and debate - let´s not demand voices be included. OK?
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written by Guest, February 24, 2005
Sorry that was meant to be "excluded".
May peace prevail
written by Guest, February 24, 2005
I hope that Peace can be obtained in this troubled region in Brazil. If it comes about because of Sister Stang's death, does this really matter? It's very sad to hear of the human and environmental suffering that plagues this area in Brazil. Sister Stang was an honorable saint. She was obviously very charitable. what was her weapon and choice of defense from her enemies? Answer: The word of God as taught in the bible. God is Peace. It really doesn't matter what nationality, political ideology, or race a person comes from. What really matters is what's in the heart! Sister Dorthy Stang had a heart of gold.
Re: racist and follower of nazi
written by Guest, February 25, 2005
Do you keep that post in a text file for reuse? It's name calling that has nothing to do with the post.
the governor
written by Guest, February 25, 2005
The governer of the state of para should resign. He has been unable to solve the regions main problem which is to present a rational and economically friendly guidelines concerning the use of land in that state. Due to this shortcoming we cannot really tell if Sister stang was right or if she was just a trouble maker. Luiz Pereira da Silva was a honorable man who was doing his job and the MST should be punished. The leaders of the MST should also step down. How to do this? Incra should stop funding the MST unless these men step down and the assasins are not handed over. Two lives were lost in my opinion due to lack of accountability. The political group who has been in power in the state of para has has exersized this power for the past 10 years since the previous governor was almir gabriel who backed the current governor from his own party and this man was elected. SO 10 years with nothing to show for it. What to do, simple, RESIGN. Concerning mr cristaldos assertations about dorothy stang i can´t really disagree nor agree due to lack of information. Yet if i were to judge by history and the amount of " visionaries" that come to brazil to " save the little people" i would have to agree with mr cristaldo. History of such people proves his assesment as correct.
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written by Guest, February 25, 2005
"Yet if i were to judge by history and the amount of " visionaries" that come to brazil to " save the little people" i would have to agree with mr cristaldo. History of such people proves his assesment as correct."

Could you elaborate on this history?
Identity/racial politics
written by Guest, February 25, 2005
I find it interesting that the death of a foreign nun induced an overwhelming governmental response. Thousands of Brazilians died for a "the cause" without any significant mention and yet a "gringo" intices military backed retribution. What is that? What an insult! Therein lies a hidden damaging psycological meaing: Poor Brazilan life isn't worth anything and "gringo" life is invaluble. What a pitty! Maybe the nun was an honarble saint( I think not), yes, but so where the other Brazilans that died without mention. Her motives were simple: join the church at the expense of your own values, beliefs, mores. The church has a long standing doctrine of making converts of the natives while ignoring all inherent cultural and religous beliefs. The churh likewise devalues native Brazilian cultures and religions alike. I don't think God intended this!
One guest wrote "It dosn't really matter what nationality, political ideology, or race a person comes from." I wish this statement were true. It's not! Your missing the point. Nationality, political ideology, power, race are the undelying problems. Lets re-focus on at the U.S. Iraque problem. When a U.S. solder is killed he is honored. His/her death recieves international headlines.(Check any local paper) He is killed right next to 100's of Iraque nationals who receive no mention. The same identity/racial/poverty politics occurs in Brazil. Yes, sister Stang was honorable, but no more or less than others.
The solutions starts from the beggining. A life is valuble. Poor, rich, saint, sinner, American, Brazilian, Catholic, Indian relegion etc... If you can't get past this fundemental idea then land reform is just a dream: This is the point of the article!
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written by Guest, February 25, 2005
It is a problem with the press. When a foriegn tourist is murdered in the US, it becomes state and even national news. Not so for the "routine" murders of it's own citizens.

The media picks the stories to champion. Many times it is to shock and cause people to take notice (buy more newspapers, collect more advertisement revenue), many times it is to push an agenda.

In this case, it was agenda driven by the woman's stance on the environment. Brazil became a victim here.
Re: His/her death recieves international
written by Guest, February 25, 2005
When each US soldier death is headlined in the anti-Bush press, it is not to honor. Their goal is to discourage the US soldiers and the US population. Some people would have no problem with a 9/11 repeat if it would embarrass Bush.
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written by Guest, February 26, 2005
f**k BRAZIL AND IT'S WHITE WANNABE s**t
Very intelligent
written by Guest, February 26, 2005
If we had more intellectuals like yourself we could rid the world of all it's problems. If you're going to contribute, at least take the time to state a well thought out opinion or a way in which you can induce change.
How the world got to what it is ...
written by Guest, February 26, 2005
As for the person expressing curse words, this is an example of how the majority world has become fed up with the continuing of playing the game of the whiter you are the more valuable your life. None of these so called intelligent people study accient history - they just try to rewrite it - because you would quickly have noticed that the Greeks and Romans considered "lighter skinned" people to be incapable of properly understanding true human civilization. Putting greater value based on skin color is exactly how the world got to nuclear proliferation, global pollution (including Europe being eaten away by acid rain), hole in the ozone layer that keeps us protected from solar radiation, Sea creatures beaching themselves in out of control numbers, terrorism, and genecide being the rule not the exception. Human civilization has been in steady decline ever since the "whiter you are the more valuable you are" game has become rampant in the world. I guess Aristotle and Vitruvious were correct after all. Let the Aryan spread and that spells the beginning of the end of civilization, and DENYING it ain't gone save us. Want the world to get better, here's a solution. Get the world back in it's proper balance. Put the "whiter you are the better you are" people back in their place as obsevers only of civilization never trusting anything they have to say about how this planet should be run. Period.
How the world got to what it is ...
written by Guest, February 26, 2005
As for the person expressing curse words, this is an example of how the majority world has become fed up with the continuing of playing the game of the whiter you are the more valuable your life. None of these so called intelligent people study accient history - they just try to rewrite it - because you would quickly have noticed that the Greeks and Romans considered "lighter skinned" people to be incapable of properly understanding true human civilization. Putting greater value based on skin color is exactly how the world got to nuclear proliferation, global pollution (including Europe being eaten away by acid rain), hole in the ozone layer that keeps us protected from solar radiation, Sea creatures beaching themselves in out of control numbers, terrorism, and genecide being the rule not the exception. Human civilization has been in steady decline ever since the "whiter you are the more valuable you are" game has become rampant in the world. I guess Aristotle and Vitruvious were correct after all. Let the Aryan spread and that spells the beginning of the end of civilization, and DENYING it ain't gone save us. Want the world to get better, here's a solution. Get the world back in it's proper balance. Put the "whiter you are the better you are" people back in their place as obsevers only of civilization never trusting anything they have to say about how this planet should be run. Period.
Brazilians X foreigner and left X right
written by Guest, February 27, 2005
why should we expect a dead brazilian to be a newspaper headline? that happens everyday. Newspaper in Brazil and worlwide want to report NEW NEWS and not OLD NEWS. And that's is just what it is about, some news. There is not going to be anything further than this such as streets and etc. named after the nun. It will be forgotten within a few weeks or even days. And obviously the president is preoccupied in keeping the best possible image of Brazil abroad. Is he not right in doing this? The author is very biased by saying brazilians are indiferent about the murder of a policeman who confronted the MST. The truth is brazilians are indiferent towards murder, full point. He says nothing about the mass murders of MST members that have historically been ignored and ended with no punishment or proper investigation. THE AUTHOR IS JUST DOING THE VERY SAME THING HE IS ATTEMPTING TO CRITICISE: CLASSIFYING VICTIMS AND GIVING THEM DIFFERENT TREATMENT.
what is foriegner?
written by Guest, March 01, 2005
I keep reading she was an american num, or a foriegner...wasnt she not a naturalized Brasilian with hopes and aspirations for the people she was helping? Except for the native indians, we are all more or less gringos on this land. I think we should (unlike the author of this radical article), take a look at her as a person, and maybe, or probably, a brasilian one at that.
gringoism
written by Guest, March 02, 2005
Gringo this, gringo that... Brazil seems to be very preoccupied with this namecalling. In my opinion the only inhabitants of Brazil who have the right to call anyone a gringo are the indios who have lived there long before the first "gringos" set foot on Brazilian shore..(reminds me of this story I read about this Mexican who to his dismay was called himself a 'gringooo' while being in Brazil -LOL).
Many Brazilians display this kind of misplaced and ugly chauvinism. The only remedy seems to be to travel abroad and interact with other cultures...it's a real eyeopener ! You want to radically diminish racism, hatred, war and so on, make people travel ! They will find out they have been living in a bubble and that they have lots in common with others living
on this small planet...
For the rest I would say Brasil is a wonderfull place com gente maravilosa...
gringoism
written by Guest, March 02, 2005
“Gringo” is not a pejorative term in Brazil - well, it can be depending on the circumstances, but in most cases it just means “foreigner” or someone who speaks differently. I’m not the biggest fan of the word, but its usage doesn’t ruffle me. In Mexico however, the term is almost exclusively used in the pejorative, so it is no surprise that the Mexican would offended.

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written by Guest, March 02, 2005
So, a pitch-black Nigerian who visits Brasil will be called gringo too ? Or is this just used for white-looking foreigners ? Or Americans ? I am a bit confused here...
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written by Guest, March 02, 2005
If he or she didn´t speak portuguese fluently, then yes, they could be called gringo.
is not true..
written by Guest, March 04, 2005
Brazilians in Brazil consider foreigners as gringos, if the come to Brazil to visit or atay for a while..but once they learn some english and live in Brazil, some people will call they gringos for not knowing them..but his/her acquaitances will call him Brazilian...Portuquese people are not Brazilians or gringos, but once in Brazil, living for a while the Brazilians considere them Brazilians, note any those cases is not nescessary to be a naturalized status! In Dorothy stang case, she was a truly Brazilian..she spoke and she was naturalized Brazilian...and damn, she even die for some cause of Brazilian people...I don't consider her a Martyr...but a real fulll blood Brazilian!
is not true..
written by Guest, March 04, 2005
A nice thought, and it´s equally pleasant to hear this from a Brasilian. The status of "gringo" can be lost over time when one adapts to the culture and learns the language fluently. However, my only caveat in this- and I have seen this happen all to often- is that if a discussion between a fluent portugues speaking foreigner who has lived in the Brasil for years if not decades and a Brasilian turns into a debate, whether it´s political, about futebol, or a number of other subjects, that once lost Gingo status can be ressurected and thrown in your face as a last ditch effort to dismiss your point of view.

This doesn´t apply to everyone, but there will always be individuals here that, in their hearts and minds," once a gringo always a gringo".


if you hate americans
written by Guest, March 05, 2005
why do i always see in this and other brazil web articles how all brasilians hate americans,well then stop coming to my country in massive numbers,or are you just trying to get away from the extreme violence,corrupt government,poverty and any number of other very unpleasant things that abound in your country, i have been to brasil 6 times and am married to a very fine brasilian lady and have many good friends in brasil,the statements about don't let the whites do or govern anything,well in america we do things that are for the betterment of all people,just what do you think we are doing in outer space? we have things in place there to handle any problem we have with any backward south american country. hey stay in brasil if you don't want to contribute, as for that nun who gave her life for you class envy people,she is as good or better than most of you
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written by Guest, March 06, 2005
"if you hate americans"

You should see what they write in orkut - shocking, just shocking. You can lead a Brasilian to a keyboard, but you can´t make him think.
If you hate americans??
written by Guest, March 08, 2005
"As for that nun who gave her life for you class envy people, she is as good or better than most of you"....
Are you kidding? Brazilians please ignore the racist, classist rhetoric of my fellow AmeriKKKan. He chugs out extreme pro-America language that creates enimies. All foreigners don't long for the shores of the United States. They like the money ignoramous, wake up!!! Immigration patterns throughout history reflect people that "follow the money. Your poor father, or granfather (yes, many racist Americans are only fisrt or second generation) couldn't survive the potato famine an immigrated to the United States AND now YOUR SORRY EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN IS HERE YOU WANT TO CLOSE THE DOOR. Even Americans "follow the money" by moving towards economically advantagoues states. The real problem is distribution of wealth. Only 20% of the worlds population consume most of the wealth. Would I agree to share wealth with other contries: Yes. Would the "red neck American?" No...AND they justify the current economic imbalance by suggesting that somehow "white american" don't condone extreme violence( Indian removal and slaughter, riots of 60,70, 80 etc. at least one war per president, Rodney King riots, etcd), corrupt government (Oliver North, )
THe only thing you can be sure about is change!!!!
I agree with you....
written by Guest, March 09, 2005
I think that I agree with much of what you say, but I have to admit to being a little unsure - maybe it would have been better to have written in Portuguese or perhaps your native French, as I find your English difficult to understand.
Apologies
written by Guest, March 09, 2005
Please accept my sincere apologies. Perhaps you might have considered a more accomplished translator. You know, the rule is that one should only translate into one's native tongue... clearly your translator has to learn this rule. If y
hey frenchy
written by Guest, March 09, 2005
so thats why your so pissed off , your french , hey let us know in america if austria invades today and we will have to save you again.
O Gringo
written by Guest, March 14, 2005
In the State of Piauí

Even Brazilians from south of the state of goías are often called gringos

O Gringão
An American Martyr
written by Guest, March 18, 2005
I can understand the point the author is trying to make but why has it to be in such a disgusting way. The sarcastic tone of the whole article and the way he is ridculizing an old woman who was murdered in cold blood, is really over the top. The man claims to be a lawyer, journalist and holder of a Sorbonne degree, congratulations, now it's time to learn what respect means.
Janer Cristaldo
written by Guest, March 20, 2005
She was not a "foreign activist" you cretin. She was Brazilian. Your refusal to acknowledge that demonstrates what you are.

Of course all life should be valued. But it is apparent that the death of a police officer, means more to you than the death of a "foreigner." Maybe that is because you are, indeed, a fascist and a nationalistic prick. And just what is it that makes you a "philosopher"?

You can go to college, and you can go to school, but if you're Janer Cristaldo, you just an educated fool.
great last comment
written by Guest, March 20, 2005
hey you are rite on track with what you just wrote
Dorothy Stang
written by Guest, March 22, 2005
I am Dorothy Stang's niece. The author of this story obviously did not know her. Nor do some of you writing your responses. I knew her. She lived in Brazil for almost 40 years. She did not live in the big city and go to the small towns to help the people then go home to her nice warm bed. She lived in a hut, in the forest amongst the people she sought to help. She created schools, she helped people learn how to farm and take care of themselves. She taught them what their rights as Brazilians and human beings were. She no longer even thought of America as her home. She was Brazilian and spoke fluent portuguese. She love what she did and she loved the people of Brazil. She died for the peasants of Brazil.
Irma Dorotia
written by Guest, March 22, 2005
I also am related to "Irma Dorotia", the person so clearly reviled by Cristaldo. While I do understand some of his points (i.e. Why does it require the death of an American to bring attention to the horrors of crime and corruption amongst Brazilians?") I would say he aimed his rhetoric at the wrong person. He also missed another point. That would be that in many countries, including my beloved US of A it requires outside opinion to force change. It is unfortunate that many times what is acceptable to the locals is not acceptable to the outsiders. Sometimes, someone else has to tell you that you have "human rights", dignity, and the freedom to live as a fully realized human being. In the US it required foreigners and "Northerners" to explain to the South that their racism could not be abided. It required internation embarassment to act upon segregated colleges. Many southern "blacks" did not like the meddlesome whites messing in their affairs. Many times we cannot see the forest for the trees. Another point is in regards to the so called converting my Aunt was attempting. If you knew her, you would know that it was not nearly priority #1. She was much more concerned with the rights, and health and safety of the people she lived amongst. In fact, at one point she even said that her safety does not matter, only that of the people she called her family. These were people given land by the governement only to have the wealthy and, yes even other members of the government, decide that it was now inconvenient for them to be there.
Finally, I would have to say that it is ironic that a Frenchman would be so politically aligned with George W. Bush. He would advocate many of your same views in the US. I imagine that Brazil- I have not been there- is much like the US. People of many sizes, shapes, colors, ethnicities, etc... that to limit this argument to one American Nun is a limiting argument. Is it unfair that her death raised such a clamor? Possibly. But when should it be OK to murder an elderly woman? Much less one who sacrificed what could have been an "easier" life for her. Her belief that the "indios" have a worth to God drove her every day. What group teaches that hatred for an elderly religious woman is OK? The cry should be "Finally!" not "Too late". I would say to all, seize the opportunity, this is your moment. In the US- we still have not achieved racial or gender equality, but I would argue we are much closer than we were 10, 20, or 30 years ago. And not without sacrifice. These sacrifices were made so that we could have the one step closer to equality that we 'enjoy' now.

Henry Richardson bigh51@hotmail.com I welcome your comments
Jeannie
written by Guest, March 22, 2005
Jeannie ERling
written by Guest, March 22, 2005
You miss the whole outcome of her death. NOW those people will get the protection they should have had from the beginning. She was not serving her own interests or the US's. She didn't agree with the us govt anyhow . Obviously you don't know her and don't know anything about her personally. She was my aunt and a beautiful , dedicated soul. Did you think about asking the people of Para (except for the greedy and those in power) if they were grateful for her? THey were, and now maybe things will change. You shouldn't pass judgment on those you don't know so I will forego that judgment of you and just let you know that she was for the poor, nothing more. Her mission was to help poor human beings have their basic rights, food, dignity, shelter etc. If you object to that, regardless of race or origin of birth, she probably couldn't have done anything right in your eyes.
Jeannie Erling
written by Guest, March 23, 2005
You are right in saying that there is outrage over Dorothy Stang's death because she is American. It is sad that there was not outrage over all the deaths preceding hers. But the outrage lies in the fact that Dorothy Stang would have been upset with the outrage herself, because she was trying to stop the killing of the poor Brazilians. Isn't that Ironic? Here you are disrespecting her and she would have agreed with you on that fact. You really should know a person before treating their murder so glibly. She was a wonderful person, and if you had known her you wouldn't have been able to write what you did. If you knew her, she wouldn't have been a Gringo or just another american to you. She spoke fluent Portuguese and lived in the Amazonian jungle as they did. She became "one of them". sound familiar?
Reporter needs to find a new profession
written by Guest, March 23, 2005
If not her, who? If she did not help fight for the Brazilian people, then who would? It appears that there is so much lawlessness in Brazil, particularly the area of Para, that there is no hope of prosecuting those responsible for killing 1400 people in that area alone. Do the Brazilian people really not care that someone was willing to fight for their rights? Yes we do care that other Brazilian citizens are being killed. Dorothy Stang wept for them and told us stories about them. We cannot help that the president does not put the attention on those who have died but he is right to be outraged by the death of a religious woman who has tried for years to fight for the rights of the Brazilian people and the land. I belive Janer Cristaldo should find a new profession as their was not much investigative work done on this subject.
masondaugherty@aol.com
Reporter?
written by Guest, March 25, 2005
You are mistaken in your assumption that Cristaldo is a reporter. No, he's merely a loudmouth with odious opinions and a narrow mind, which he supposes makes him some kind of "philosopher."
David Stang
written by Guest, March 25, 2005
Dorothy Stang worked for over 36 years in Brazil. She received Brazilian citizenship. She received a Human Rights Award from Brazilian Lawyers. She received Woman of the Year from the State of Para. She was highly respected and loved by thousands in Anapu. She worked closely with all Brazilian Government Agencies to help long term development in the amazon in contrast to the rape and pillaging of the illegal loggers and ranchers who disrespected all Brazilian laws. The "Brazilian Government" has claimed that the State of Para is lawless and that not only Chico Mendes but many other Brazilian citizens have bee been killed by the Pistoleros who are paid by the illegal loggers and ranchers to kill with impunity Brasilians. Dorothy Stang asked the local police for protection and was refused. So this compassionate human being is now considered worthless by this so called intelligent PhD writer. Am I missing something? Does he really think these illegal loggers and ranchers, these murderers and rapists of the amazon are the sacred ones? Does he think that his present government chosen freely by the Brazilians should be thrown out because they are stupid and he is so intelligent? I am trying to find his compassion and love? What has he shared with his fellow Brazilians that compares with Dorothy Stang's 36 years of love and compassion for the homeless, for women, for farmers? His blatant disrespect for my sister's body and for humanity tells me that his education has destroyed his very soul and left him with cold, materialistic, fossilized thoughts.
David Stang Dorothy Stang's youngest brother.
David Stang
written by Guest, March 25, 2005
Dorothy Stang worked for over 36 years in Brazil. She received Brazilian citizenship. She received a Human Rights Award from Brazilian Lawyers. She received Woman of the Year from the State of Para. She was highly respected and loved by thousands in Anapu. She worked closely with all Brazilian Government Agencies to help long term development in the amazon in contrast to the rape and pillaging of the illegal loggers and ranchers who disrespected all Brazilian laws. The "Brazilian Government" has claimed that the State of Para is lawless and that not only Chico Mendes but many other Brazilian citizens have bee been killed by the Pistoleros who are paid by the illegal loggers and ranchers to kill with impunity Brasilians. Dorothy Stang asked the local police for protection and was refused. So this compassionate human being is now considered worthless by this so called intelligent PhD writer. Am I missing something? Does he really think these illegal loggers and ranchers, these murderers and rapists of the amazon are the sacred ones? Does he think that his present government chosen freely by the Brazilians should be thrown out because they are stupid and he is so intelligent? I am trying to find his compassion and love? What has he shared with his fellow Brazilians that compares with Dorothy Stang's 36 years of love and compassion for the homeless, for women, for farmers? His blatant disrespect for my sister's body and for humanity tells me that his education has destroyed his very soul and left him with cold, materialistic, fossilized thoughts.
David Stang Dorothy Stang's youngest brother.
Oh, David
written by Guest, March 25, 2005
"I am trying to find his compassion and love"

Stop. It's futile. He has none.

"What has he shared with his fellow Brazilians that compares with Dorothy Stang's 36 years of love and compassion for the homeless, for women, for farmers?"

Nothing. He is a souless beast.

"Does he think that his present government chosen freely by the Brazilians should be thrown out because they are stupid and he is so intelligent?"

Yes! That's exactly what he believes. He's a complete throwback. A crypto-fascist, elitist has been.

Sorry you had to read his garbage.
if you hate americans # 2
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
Don't worry about comments posted here by stupid, uneducated Brazilians.Many normal Brazilians living in the US can see the good and the bad in both countries. These obnoxious postings, I should say, brainless gush of matter, only represents the worse about my country. When I read red neck like comments here, I don't think they represent the best of America. These are people who are socially, economically , and politically displaced. They were were allowed to be born in our countries and own a computer.Life,regardless of its significance, will find a way to survive. The process is not so dissimilar of a tough bacteria able to survive extreme unfavorable environmental conditions.Brazil will have to face its problems sooner or later because those of us who were forced to leave the country, will press for changes. Many of us are not only sending money back to our relatives, but we are also sending back new ideas from almost every continent in this planet. I am sure European countries went through major changes in the last decades.Changes due in part to the free exchange of ideas among its citizens living abroad ! Look of what is happening in China and India! It is just a matter of time!
interested
written by Guest, April 24, 2005
Looks like this conversation is dying down. Yesturday, hundreds of people gathered at embassy's around the united states to stand in solidarity with the MST and the upcoming national march for agrarian reform. as you can imagine, there wasn't a lot of press around, though there are rumors in folha de sao paulo that 60 minutes had a crew out for the march in DC from american university to the embassy led by sister dorothy's siblings. the friends of the mst could not help but tie the struggle of the mst to her death. oppoturnities to communicate on even the most shallow level about such crucial issues outside of an academic setting are few. so we're using her. you can't be a thoughtful person and not question the use of her death to political gain. but its is the way things are and in a world where we seem to be growing further away from peace and cooperation, every oportunity to give a shout out to equality must be siezed. I'm probably off, but i don't believe that Lula was playing to the international press. other than freaks like us who find themselves in places like this, people aren't thinking of the impact of her life and death on brasil's reality. Rather, lula took advantage of an opportunity that was served to him on a platter. it's a shame that he has failed to exercise the influence of his office earlier in push forward the cause of social equality. What is special about brasil is that the law is there. The only question is what is the social function of land. that the debate is happening, that the courts are letting the question be asked, that people are marching in the streets to express the understanding of its social function is an opportunity that is most unique in the world. a utopia? f**k, a conversation would be fine. and in brasil, there is a conversation taking place that is historic in proportion. it's uncomfortable to see folks cutting a fence down and occuping property that appears to be productive by what we think of as a sign of productive. But the house is empty. The barn holds hay for a single horse. the tractor is rusting. and i'm getting more comfortable with the picture of dozens of families proping up rude quarters around this ghost town. it just makes sense.
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