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Show Me One Pro-American Brazilian. Only one! PDF Print E-mail
2005 - February 2005
Written by Olavo de Carvalho   
Wednesday, 02 February 2005 14:12

Protester holds a knife against a Bush cutout at the WSF in Porto Alegre, BrazilThe entire mainstream Brazilian media, without exception, is anti-American, anti-Bush, and anti-Israel, including those publications, which due to their past keep a conservative façade, even though they are by no means conservative today.

Everybody in Brazilian media commenting on September 11 was unanimous in attributing to the US several different degrees of the responsibility for the evil that was done to them.

There is no politician left in Brazil who is openly pro-American or pro-Israel, even among the ones who are defenders of a free market economy.

There are, at best, those who defend good relations with the US exclusively in the economic arena, taking at the same time an anti-American stance in all other relevant international issues.

There are no more conservative politicians or parties in action in Brazil today. The last ones were ostracized in the last couple of years, either through suspicions of corruption that were never entirely proven, or by the defeat on the elections after a rain of accusations in the media.

The bulk of the opposition to the Workers' Party (PT), the greatest left-wing party in Brazil, is made exclusively by internal dissensions of the Left.

Brazilian public opinion is massively persuaded that the US is in a full-fledged imperialistic campaign to subjugate Brazil economically, destroy it culturally, and, finally, to occupy with troops at least part of its territory. In the media, no writer except me dares to openly defy this belief.

No conservative American author has his books published in Brazil, at least by the commercial publishing houses, nor are they studied in the departments of Philosophy, Law, or Political Sciences of any Brazilian university.

A recent publication, the Critical Dictionary of Right-Wing Thought, which became reference material for all the students in the area due to the fact that it was written by 144 university teachers among the most representative of Brazilian academic elite, contained several mentions of David Duke.

But there was no even one mention of Irving Kristol, Russell Kirk, Thomas Sowell, and other authors recognized in the US as spokesmen for conservatives, so that the general idea left in the mind of the reader is that the North American conservative thought consists, essentially, of Nazism.

In the media, in academic discussions and in public debates, all the initiatives viewed as bad for Brazil, coming from international organizations or great banks, are immediately attributed to George W. Bush.

The figure of the North American President has been so demonized that he was drawn literally with the face of the Devil, with horns and forked tail, on the cover of one of the main weekly Brazilian magazines—a gross graphic expedient which, not even a decade ago, would be dared only by communist publications.

Former American ambassador in Brazil, Donna Hrinak, made open propaganda of the leftist candidate (and current President) Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, praising him as the "incarnation of the American dream," and after that enforced further the anti-American feeling on the population, declaring in an interview that "the US does not respect Brazil".

In the Armed Forces, the belief is practically unanimous that, with the end of the USSR, the East-West conflict axle was substituted by the North-South axle, or "rich nations against poor nations," and, therefore, the real enemy of Brazil in an armed conflict is the US.

This idea is subscribed to even by the majority of the conservative officers, some with great prestige in the Armed Forces. The military in general believe that the North American proposition of setting up an air force base in Alcântara, Pará, is a Machiavellian plan of the government in Washington against Brazilian national sovereignty.

And almost all officers subscribe to the leftist propaganda that the Colombia Plan is a vile premeditated plot to facilitate the penetration of American troops in Brazilian territory with imperialistic purposes.

In the frontier bases, many officers and soldiers are already dedicated to the study of the works of Ho Chi Minh and General Giap, aiming to assimilate the Vietcong war techniques for future combat against the North American invaders.

The School for Higher War Studies (ESG, Escola Superior de Guerra), the main teaching center for the formation of the military, is literally hypnotized by the preaching of anti-American agitators like the journalist Márcio Moreira Alves and the historian Manuel Cambeses Júnior.

For the simple reason that it obeyed economic policies set by the IMF, the Fernando Henrique Cardoso administration became known in the media as pro-American, even though in reality it had much more affinity with the European Union and the current anti-American mentality found in the UN.

On the other hand, this government has been hostile to the Armed Forces, reducing their budget and their functions, excluding the military of the ministerial meetings, stimulating true and false accusations against military personnel that collaborated with the extinct authoritarian regime, rewarding with jobs and public money the terrorists that killed Brazilian soldiers, and so forth.

The result was that the hate towards the government grew among the military, along with the anti-Americanism. The widely recognized fact that the anti-military initiatives of the government were fomented by leftists did not change a single bit the attitude of the military.

On becoming aware of the support given to left-wing organizations by great entrepreneurial holdings like Ford and Rockefeller, the Brazilian military interpreted the rising of the left as the effect of a sinister imperialistic plan plotted by the American government to debilitate Brazilian national sovereignty.

Well, a global movement to debilitate and neutralize the national sovereignties did exist, but it did not come from the American government, but from the EU and the UN, the same organizations that, on the other hand, did everything to politically isolate the US and Israel.

As it happens, the latent conflict between US power and the great international organizations was never made public in Brazil, not even after the Durban Conference which made it patently evident.

Therefore, everything the international organizations did against national sovereignty (including the US's own) was immediately attributed to the American government, viewed as a kind of deity controlling everything that happened in the universe.

When I mentioned in the Brazilian press that President Clinton served more the purposes of these international organizations than the American State, I was called 'a loony' and thoroughly ignored, even among the military, who usually had respect for me.

To stimulate even more the anti-American hostility of the Brazilian military, the dismantling of our Armed Forces strictly followed a plan in ten steps suggested by the political scientist Samuel Huntington in a book circulated in Brazil with the sponsoring of Culture Minister Francisco Weffort, a man from the PT (Partido dos Trabalhadores—Workers' Party) in Fernando Henrique Cardoso's cabinet.

It is not surprising that the North American president who supported international policies that tended to stimulate these hostilities was the same who in the home front protected Chinese espionage, tied the CIA's and the FBI's hands against international terrorism, and debilitated the American Armed Forces.

All this man wanted was to obtain for the US, even at the cost of the long-term destruction of the country, certain economic advantages that allowed him to pose in front of his voters as the savior of unemployed immigrants.

So, at the same time that he gave his country an image of an imperialistic power, arrogant and proud, he made it weak and helpless, in the military as well as diplomatic arenas.

This is the path to self-destruction, and I do not believe that Clinton, elected with Chinese propaganda money, did it out of mere incompetence or lack of consciousness.

The hate towards the US in Brazil today is so deep and so disseminated in all social levels that it can only be eradicated through a long and laborious educational campaign.

It is necessary to explain to Brazilians that the international organizations are not the US government, that the fight of globalist imperialism for the destruction of national sovereignties is not an American enterprise, being rather anti-American, and that the nationalistic façade of the leftist organizations in Brazil hides their collaboration with the anti-American globalist imperialism.

If this is not made at once, any belligerent position the government adopts against the US will be applauded by all the Brazilian people, fallen into the web of a tragic deceit.

This article was originally published in Accuracy in Media - http://www.aim.org.

Olavo de Carvalho is a philosopher and the author of several books, including O Imbecil Coletivo: Atualidades Inculturais Brasileiras (1996) and O Futuro do Pensamento Brasileiro - Estudos sobre o Nosso Lugar no Mundo (1997). He writes for three very influential dailies in Brazil: Folha de S. Paulo, O Globo (from Rio) and Zero Hora (from Porto Alegre, state of Rio Grande do Sul). His articles can be found at www.olavodecarvalho.org  and www.midiasemmascara.org.  The author welcomes comments at olavo@olavodecarvalho.org.



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Why should we be pro-american?
written by Guest, February 02, 2005
Give us just 1 good reason to be Pro-American... And believe me, we will...
Rubbish
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
I've never read such convoluted rubbish as the article by the so called philosopher Olavo de Carvalho . The US is hated by the whole planet because it is part of the axis of evil with the UK and Israel. Mr Carvalho have'nt you been listening to the News in the last 40 years to see the reason why the whole world hates the US.Haven't you heard about Abu Graib or Guantanabo bay concentration camps?? have'nt you heard of the hundreds of thousand of Iraqis raped, robbed, and murdered by depraved sexual scum and sub humans of the US army and marines?? Who invaded Vietnam Cambodia Laos Iraq Somalia Nicaragua Cuba Afghanistan Granada Guatemala Serbia Panama and about 50 other countries butchering tens of millions of innocent peopleand robbing them of their assets?. Mr carvalho the answer is USA. Who helps the Israeli sto rob, kill and torment the 6million palestinians? the answer mr Carvalho is the USA. If you haven't got the picture by now forget about philosophy or politics and I will suggest to you get a job at Macdonalds making burgers
You have the cheek to call yourself a philosopher??


Interesante
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
O Sr Carvalho apresenta informações interesantes. Vou pesquisar na net antes de escrever algo contra ou a favor de seus pntos de vista. Uma coisa me perturbou nas mensagens deixadas até agora. Realmente existe um enorme sentimento anti-americano tanot na midia quanto nos politics brasileiros. Entre as pessoas não sei se existe pois é dificil confirmar. O que me deixa perplexo e que um contra-argumento foi apresentado pelo autor e as pessoas reagiram do jeito que o mesmo autor previu em seu ultimo paragrafo. Custa se abrir a possibilidade de que o autor possa ter razão? Afinal isso so demandaria pesquisar o contra-argumento dele em vez de ter uma reação tão impulsiva.
Brazil is my enemy
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Almost all Americans are just people working to excel at whatever profession they have chosen. There is a philosophy and culture that elected GW Bush because they believe individualism is better than collectivism. I'm an American Southern Christian fundamentalist. I have a right to my people, my culture, my church and a President the reflects my values. I have studied Communism for more than half my life. Go to www.granma.cu and you will see that the insults you make toward me are the same lies that Fidel Castro has been saying since before I was born. I read the racist letters to the editors your people write against my people. Substitute "Jew" for "American" for these letters and it looks like a German publication from 1940. Brazilians should hang their racist heads in shame.
Brain wash
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
The comments from Why should we be pro-American? and Rubbish just reinforce Mr. Carvalho article about anti-American stance in Brazil. The idea that The United States wants to subjugate Brazil economically,cuturally and to occupy parts of Brazil is ridiculous. If you mention this to the avarge american they would think taht you are crazy and then ask you where is Brazil located
Brasil e meu inimigo
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Quase todos os Americanos sao apenas pessoas esforcando ser o melhor na sua profissao.Tem uma cultura e filosofia que elegeu GW Bush porque eles acham individualismo e superior a coletivismo. Sou Americano, Sulista, Evangelico-Fundamentalista. Tenho direito a meu povo, minha cultura, minha igreja, e um Presidente que reflete meus valores. Estudei o mal do Comunismo mais que matade da minha vida. Vai para www.granma.cu e vai ver que os insultos que voce fazem ao meu povo sao as mesmas mentiras que Fidel Castro esta falando antes do ano que nasci. Leio a cartas racistas voces escrevem contra meu povo. Substitui "Judeu" por "Americano" nessas cartas e parece um jornal de Alemanha Nazista de 1940. O Brasileiros devem baixar suas cabecas racistas com vergonha!
God Bless America!
written by Guest, February 03, 2005

Sao idiotas ou anti-democratas todos aqueles que nao reconhecem a singular importancia dos valores que fundaram os Estados Unidos da America.

Por isso, eu gostaria de prestar o seguinte agradecimento a America:

- Agradeco por haver salvo o mundo do nazi-fascismo.
- Agradeco por haver salvo o mundo do comunismo
- Agradeco por combater ideologias inimigas da liberdade, como o totalitarismo islamico.
- Agradeco por haver difundido valores cristaos, liberais, e democraticos.

Agradeco tambem por haver criado o constitucionalismo moderno, impulsionado o ideal de auto-governo, concebido a primeira declaracao de direitos, o primeiro sistema federativo, o primeiro sistema de efetiva separacao dos poderes, o ideal do pluralismo politico, o republicanism, os valores liberais do Estado de Direito, o aprimoramento do sistema de governo representativo, o ideal de soberania popular, liberdade economica e religiosa, direitos civis para mulheres e grupos minoritarios, judicial review, etc...

God Bless America!
...
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Nice post God Bless America - it´s funny how quickly people tend to forget these things.
United States of America
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
America Is A Melting Pot, The People At The Bottom Get Burned While All The Scum Floats To The Top…

Amen
Socialism
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Show me a state where socialism has been succesful......Have you read the news....8,000,000 Iraquis , 60% of the eligible voters, went to the polls to ensure their freedom from a marxist dictatorship.....don't look now Brazil its creeping up on you.
Existe Vida Inteligente na Media....Afte
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Equilibrado e corajoso o artigo do Sr. Olavo de Carvalho. A media brasileira que proclama ser tão tolerante e vanguarda resiste em seu tendecionismo contra os EUA. Essa ignorância patente vaza por todas as camadas sociais e o evangelho antiamericano é um consenso nacional. Outros guests já mencionaram com eloquencia o valor dos EUA para o mundo, e não existe retorica logica que possa resistir aos fatos. Eu sou brasileiro, mas resido legalmente nos EUA por 14 anos. Tenho orgulho de ter nascido no Brasil e perpetuo minha cultura em minha vida. Não posso negar, todavia, que existe uma maturidade politica infinitamente maior nos EUA do que no meu propro pais, orgulhosamente chamado pelos seus conterraneos do pais do futebol, cerveja e Carnaval, onde alguém como o Sr. Luis Ignacio da Silva pode ser eleito presidente. O problema do Brasil não é os EUA, mas sim a mentalidade tacanha e miope do grande coletivo, a corrupção hereditária da maioria dos seus politicos e a ganancia sem limites do que detem o poder economico.
Brasil\'s Problems
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Brazilians remind me alcoholics or drug addicts who can not admit that they have a problem. I am an American born to Brazilian Parents. I have traveled Brazil extensively and have seen the best and most beautiful that Brazil has to offer and I have seen a lot of the worst that Brazil has become. Remember, that Brazil once was much better then it is today. Not once, have I called out my Brazilian family members, friends and colleagues to criticize the Brazilian leaders or government. Brazil is totally different then the USA. Of course, the USA is far from perfect, but we Americans look at ourselves, see our problems and attempt to fix them and the problems of others. Brazilians???????? The people have to want to correct themselves and their country.

One of the respondents in this thread was right.....most Americans don't even know where Brazil is.
HUBRIS
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Sorry, but I doubt George Bush even gives Brazil a second thought. He'd probably have to be told where it is on a map.
Americans and Jews are easy targets to divert attention from real domestic issues that are home-grown.
As a Canadian, nobody knows the Americans better than we do. We get Canadian, British and American news every day. America is not without its problems, but let me ask you this: who would you rather have as the world's policeman - America or China? America or Russia? The choice is yours.
How many invaders can you name that vanquished two rogue states (Germany and Japan), then actually left them in better condition than when they arrived?
The Americans are a very proud nation, to be sure - but, then they have a lot to be proud of. They are the wealthiest, most militarily advanced, most culturally dominant society the world has ever seen. England's 300 year old dynasty would be a close second. Why are the rest of us so jealous?
There is no hidden agenda to invade South America. PUHLEASE!!! And there is no left wing plot either. Canadian conservatives have been crying foul for years.
Talk to the common man on the street. Whether Canadian, Brazilian or American - they all just want to get along. The rest is all just grand standing for political gain and great photo ops.
Brasil\'s Problem & HUBRIS
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
"we Americans look at ourselves, see our problems and attempt to fix them and the problems of others"

&

"The Americans are a very proud nation, to be sure - but, then they have a lot to be proud of. They are the wealthiest, most militarily advanced, most culturally dominant society the world has ever seen"

You are both right...The United States are indeed dominant and proud people...Here is a better description of the USA cowboy culture:

Acting superior by knowing the answers to everything (boastful and arrogant), but uninformed.

Not wanting to share credit for accomplishments of joint efforts (think they know everything). Remember Von Braun and the space program?

Being unable or unwilling to respect and adjust to local customs and culture (insensitive), ignorant of other countries and cultures.

Preferring solutions based on their home cultures rather than meeting local needs (thinks every country should imitate the US).

Resisting working through local administrative, legal, channels and procedures (disrespectful of authority). Example, the American Airlines captain showing the “finger” to immigration officials in Brasil.

Managing in an autocratic and intimidating way (rude and immature).

Being too imposing and pushy and fatly overweight (drunkard, promiscuous and snobbish).

A culture based on Jerry Springer and Oprah Winfrey and flag worshipping (loud and obnoxious).

Unjustifiable John Wayne Warmongers (Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, El Salvador, Somalia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq), just to name a few (racist and stingy).

Arrogance is so embedded in the American psyche that it blinds them to much of the reality of the rest of the world. That results in an American philosophy that places the United States at the center of the Universe, and everything else in the universe is good, bad or indifferent relative to America.

Unfortunately, 9/11 proves my point where innocent people had to die. So not to perpetuate this saga, clean your house first before worrying about ours at which point, you may have more credibility, and rid yourself of any preconceived notions.

Like the old saying…If You Can't Say Something Nice, Don't Say Anything At All!

Good Day...
Words of Wisdom
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
During an interview with Emerson Fittipaldi (EF), the Brazilian interviewer asked EF why he decided to live in the USA instead of Brazil. EF responded, "I love Brazil, but I prefer to live in the USA. In Brazil, if you have a new Mercedes Benz, you neighbor talks to you about your new car and later scratches it. In the USA, your neighbor comes over to congratulate you on your new car and then decides to work harder and earn more money so they can buy a new Mercedes Benz for themselves".
Re: Like the old saying…
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
"If You Can't Say Something Nice, Don't Say Anything At All! "

Tell that to the nut jobs parroting Fidel Castro in their "Letters To The Editor" in Brazil. I used count the days until I could get time off work and visit Brazil. No more! If you're going to insult me and my President, you can shove your country up your @%^. By the way, "Hubris" is the latest buzzword being circulated in the leftist blogs. I remember when it was "gravitas". raaahhh, Polly want a cracker?

BRAZIL IS PERFECT
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
You are so correct. Only the Brazilians know everything and have the answers to everything. They even know how the United States should run it's affairs, economy, immigration, health care, education, environmental policy, law enforcement and entertainment.

Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Fortaleza and Belo Horizonte are the best and ideal cities in THE WORLD. SAFE, CLEAN, POLLUTION FREE, NO CORRUPTION and SUPER LOW UNEMPLOYMENT. Let's not forget how honest the BRAZILIAN POLITICIANS ARE.

Brazilians should forget about BUSH and start fixing their once great Country and Economy.
Listen to some truth
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Go to www.wgst.com and click the listen live link from 12-3 PM New York (Eastern) time. You will get educated!
DITTO
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
MEGA-DITTOS
As much as i like america
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Kicking the subsidies

Third world farmers need a fair deal

Leader
Monday August 18, 2003
The Guardian

Developing countries are about to be sold down the river again and hardly anyone seems to care enough to do anything about it. It is now only a few weeks before the crucial World Trade Organisation (WTO) trade talks open in Cancun, Mexico, but they have become so bogged down in complexity and international stitch-ups (like last week's deal between the US and the EU) that real progress is unlikely. The risk of a walk-out by developing countries grows daily.
Let's get back to basics. Giving subsidies to farmers was a brilliant idea that transformed the food shortages after the second world war into a surplus. But it has grown into an institutionalised nightmare preventing developing countries from fulfilling their potential in one of the few areas where they enjoy a natural advantage - agriculture. Europe and the US are the main culprits. It is economic and social madness for Europe to be growing, for instance, subsidised sugar beet when its average cost of production is more than double that of efficient exporters such as Brazil and Zambia. It is only possible thanks to ludicrous subsidies, including protective tariffs of up to 140%. As Kevin Watkins of Oxfam says: "The $1.6bn a year the EU gives to the sugar barons of East Anglia and the Paris Basin generates surpluses that deprive countries such as Thailand and Malawi of markets. Mozambique loses almost as much as a result of EU sugar policy as it gets in European aid."

The US is no better. America's 25,000 cotton farmers received more than $3bn in subsidies last year, equivalent to 100% of the market value of cotton output. This works out at a staggering subsidy of $230 an acre. West Africa, one of the mostdeprived places on earth, happens to be one of the most efficient cotton producers, with an estimated 11 million people dependent on cotton as their main source of income. But it can't compete with subsidised products from the US, which has 40% of world exports. If subsidies were removed, West Africa, according to IMF figures, could produce profitably at two thirds of US production costs.

In this context it is premature to welcome last week's alleged breakthrough in negotiations between the US and Europe, which is regarded by Oxfam and others as reneging on the WTO aim to eliminate export subsidies. A joint commitment to cap the amount of direct payments to farmers to 5% of output sounds good. But it ignores the fact that there has been a parallel explosion of payments linked to other factors such as land ownership or past production levels. This merely preserves the featherbedding in a form less under the control of the WTO. Under this category comes the $180bn increase in spending on export credits and food aid by the Bush administration, which is regarded by fair trade lobbies as disguised dumping.

There is only one way to deal with this. Make it simple and effective. Abolish all agricultural subsidies so that every proposed reform doesn't generate new escape routes that negate its primary purpose. To this end, the Guardian is starting a new website today, aimed at kicking into oblivion all agricultural subsidies (http://kickaas.typepad.com). This is one of those rare topics that unites right and left. It is also one of the few remaining free lunches in economics from which practically everyone gains. It would galvanise developing countries' agriculture while freeing more than $300bn currently being spent by governments - over $200 per capita - every year on subsidies for other purposes. There will inevitably be transitional problems for some western farmers but nothing like the structural change other industries have experienced. And in the long run it will be of benefit to them, too. They will be able to grow crops they are good at rather than those attracting subsidies. All that the developing countries are seeking is a level playing field on which to compete. Is that too much to ask?

C. Cravinhos
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Incredibly well articulated article. My hat off to the philosopher Mr. Carvalho. At the exception of the enormous historical and political ignorance displayed by the comments of one of the guests, the vast majority have a sober and balanced position. Thanks for providing a forum for defense of the real situation and to counter the nocive and distorted versions so often found in the midia.
Marblex
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Socialism will never succeed until and unless humans rid themselves of the insidious concept of "ownership"; i.e., the right to exclude others. It is this concept that drives us to affix a price tag on everything. In a world where artificial and fluxuating "monetary" values are imposed anywhere, it may well be impossible to have a successful socialist society, where labor is contributed for the common good, INSTEAD OF in exchange for some medium of exchange or barter. So long as we remain tied to this fictious and radical concept that every blade of grass can be "owned," we are DOOMED to be slaves.
Marblex
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Oh yes, one other point. If we are to succeed at all with a monetary system, living standards must be raised fro 78% of the world who now live in poverty. Global economy? HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! How can there be such a thing without (a) a GLOBAL CURRENCY and (b) a GLOBAL MINIMUM WAGE. Is this more "trickle down" nonsense?
Ownership society
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
GW Bush's agenda is called the "ownership society". Fidel Castro has had 45 years to perfect a collectivist soceity. Ownership wins hands down!
mARBLEX
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
RE: Ownership society....have you been to Cuba?
Miami
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Lived in Miami for awhile. The residents of "Little Havana" told me what life in Cuba is like.
BRAZIL IS PERFECT...2
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Like to dish it out but don't like to take it in.....huh?

Go f**k yourself into oblivion, idiot x 10 = American IDIOT
Re: Like the old saying…2
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Hey faggot....talk to someone who cares!

You are living proof that Indians did f**k Buffalos.....hehehe, maggot bitch!
G.W. Bush = Number One Terrorrist
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Another four years in the dark ages....brought to you by a Republican!
Words of Wisdom 2
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Who cares anyhow....Emerson is just a driver, nothing profound comes out of his mouth anyway!

I'm done using your EGO as a urinal.
Re: Like the old saying…3
written by Guest, February 03, 2005

Did I bruise your proud american ego...inverted rectumn?

Whatever is eating you must be suffering horribly!

Hehehe
...
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Again, my point is the same. What is needed is the elimanation of the concept of goods and services (which have no intrinsic value -- values, costs and prices are all artificially and arbitrarily imposed) being provided IN EXCHANGE for something else. This is wrong headed thinking and encourages exclusionary aquisition -- even of vital resources and lands people need. When companies like ADM and Monsanto can claim ownership of "seeds" and commander others' crops and lands, what's next? Do we wait until our air is so polluted that people will turn to Bechtel for privatized air? This concept of "ownership" of all things Earth is gone wildly awry and won't ever change until we fundamentally change our thinking about what can and should be owned, if anything and whether it is necessary to cooperative societies to have currency or some means of exchange (i.e., barter). So, though "communistic" and "socialistic" societies have been attempted, unless this notion of "exchange" and "private ownership" (i.e., exclusionary rights) is abandoned, such societies will never truly be "communes" or "socialist" in any sense. MHO
An \"educated\" idiot
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
see above
Oi George w Bush -- Shame on you if fool
written by Guest, February 03, 2005

Give us just 1 good reason to be Pro-American, And believe me, George w bush is crazy who lead America into Hell or Alinferno.

Today: Iraq and tomorrow: Iran. I would like if George w Bush could show me his list who knows maybe meu Brazil is in the Middle of this list.

Your Sincerely; Andrea Da Silva - Recife - Pernambuco, North East.



You\'re Brainwashed
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
The only way Brazil is on the list if it teams up with Castro or Al Qaida to attack American insterests. Go to www.foxnews.com or www.midiasemmascara.org and read the TRUTH.
Resposta de um apoiador de GW Bush
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
© 2004 MidiaSemMascara.org


O brasileiro médio acredita que não é preconceituoso com ninguém nem com nada, o que é um sofisma, pois todos nós temos algum tipo de preconceito. Porém, o que mais me impressiona é a maneira como muitos brasileiros se transfiguram quando o assunto é os Estados Unidos. Muitos devoram o conteúdo esquerdista da mídia brasileira e, ao se tornarem verdadeiras caixas de ressonância do Jornal Nacional, simplesmente esquecem-se de fazer-se uma simples pergunta: “Será que isso tudo que eu ouvi e li é verdade?” A boçalidade atinge níveis tão horripilantes que o senso comum da mitologia anti-americana já pariu alguns arquétipos, quais sejam:

O americano beligerante: muitos brasileiros acreditam piamente que todo americano é belicista, esquecendo-se sumariamente de que os regimes mais assassinos da história foram as ditaduras socialistas, inclusive o nazi-fascismo;

O americano racista: ao pensar neste arquétipo, os próprios brasileiros acabam se tornando preconceituosos, em virtude da generalização, que é a tia da ignorância. Muitos brasileiros chegam a imaginar: “Com essa minha aparência de latino-americano, será que eu seria bem aceito lá?” – um exemplo típico de auto-punição auto-racista, ao passo que, nos EUA, os latino-americanos e negros ocupam postos altíssimos na sociedade, como grandes empresários, generais, juízes da Suprema Corte, secretários de Estado etc;

Todo americano é de direita: se considerarmos o espectro tradicional, qual seja: esquerda = ordem socialista; direita = ordem capitalista, veremos que, às vezes, ambas são estatólatras, mas a direita não relativiza os contratos sociais e nem a propriedade privada, coisa que a esquerda faz, e tampouco demoniza o capital privado. Aliás, a direita tradicionalmente defende a redução dos impostos e o capitalismo liberal e o que a esquerda faz, no máximo, é o capitalismo de Estado, com a economia planificada, ao contrário da direita, que pratica a economia de mercado. Além disso, a direita prima por valores éticos e morais, ao passo que a esquerda os relativiza e, muitas vezes, os destrói. Logo, os democratas são os esquerdistas americanos, pois sua doutrina combina perfeitamente com estas definições.

O americano xenófobo: muitos brasileiros embarcam na idéia, vendida pela nossa nefasta mídia esquerdista, de que todo americano é xenófobo, mas esses idiotas se esquecem de que, dos 30 milhões a mais de americanos que há nos EUA de hoje, 1/3 deste número é constituído de imigrantes das mais variadas origens;

O americano idiota: muitos brasileiros acham que os criadores da maior nação da história são idiotas, só por que eles não são mestres em geografia ou se atrapalham, às vezes, ao falar de nações, civilizações e culturas que eles não têm a menor obrigação de conhecer.

Enfim, todos estes arquétipos denotam uma carga gigantesca de preconceito presente nas mentes enfermas de milhões de brasileiros que acham que não é necessário ir a um lugar para conhecê-lo de fato, e tampouco conviver com uma pessoa para saber de quem realmente se trata, algo primariamente imbecil à luz da mera lógica.

Muitos brasileiros se julgam sem preconceitos, mas quando o assunto é os Estados Unidos, dizem eles, vale tudo. Que belo exemplo de dois pesos e duas medidas!
...
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
tens on millions killed in those military actions?

How dare you post here you uninformed swine parrot?
racist republican gringos
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
racist and evil and imperialistic gringo republican party is good for nothing except spreading their hate of american supremacy and plundering the resources of latin america.

gringos are out to steal the amazon and look at all the gringo inspired coups in nicaragua, venezuela, guatemala, chile, brazil, argentina, and other nations.

republican gringos are nothing better than racist and white supremacist diablos!!!
Lizz Cannon
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
As an American with bloodlines back to the Mayflower I can say...my country deserves it's bad rep**ation. We fund genocide and profiteering for the pockets of the rich. Bottom line.

a terrivel verdade
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
God Bless America!
Sao idiotas ou anti-democratas todos aqueles que nao reconhecem a singular importancia dos valores que fundaram os Estados Unidos da America.

Por isso, eu gostaria de prestar o seguinte agradecimento a America:

- Agradeco por haver salvo o mundo do nazi-fascismo.
- Agradeco por haver salvo o mundo do comunismo
- Agradeco por combater ideologias inimigas da liberdade, como o totalitarismo islamico.
- Agradeco por haver difundido valores cristaos, liberais, e democraticos.

Agradeco tambem por haver criado o constitucionalismo moderno, impulsionado o ideal de auto-governo, concebido a primeira declaracao de direitos, o primeiro sistema federativo, o primeiro sistema de efetiva separacao dos poderes, o ideal do pluralismo politico, o republicanism, os valores liberais do Estado de Direito, o aprimoramento do sistema de governo representativo, o ideal de soberania popular, liberdade economica e religiosa, direitos civis para mulheres e grupos minoritarios, judicial review, etc...

God Bless America!

Written by Guest on 2005-02-03 04:35:58


bom voce ta de brincadeira neh?
EUA salvaram o mundo do nazi-facismo? piada
quem salvou na verdade foi o exercito vermelho os EUA so fizeram alguma coisa no fim da guerra e vc da merito ainda pra eles?
e sem contar difundir o cristianismo?
NOSSA QUASO VOCE NAO SAIBA OS EUA É A MAIOR NACAO PROTESTANTE DO MUNDO
liberdade? me pergunto que liberdade?
eles nao dao liberdade alguma ja que a politica deles e uma politica imperialista
entre bush e fidel
fidel e um homem santo e como um amante na liberdade e com peso no coracao que tenho que dar um
Viva Fidel!
God Bless America???
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Not....God Bless Cuba! Stood up for the USA for the past 45 years.

Long live Castro
What does BUSH equates to?
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Bush = Monkey
Bush = Monkey
Bush = Monkey
Bush = Monkey
Bush = Monkey
Bush = Monkey
Bush = Monkey
Shall I continue?
Shall I continue?
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
No, we already know you have a limited vocabulary!
continue Shall I?
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
just for you...

Monkey = Bush
Monkey = Bush
Monkey = Bush
Monkey = Bush
Monkey = Bush
Monkey = Bush
Monkey = Bush
continue Shall I?
Re: Lizz Cannon
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Re: We fund genocide and profiteering for the pockets of the rich.

That would be your Back Bay Buddie, Sen. "I shot myself to get a Purple Heart and go home" Kerry. I'm glad I'm not part of THAT "we". Pass the HEINZ 57 Catsup!!

:-) Support the South: Drink Coca-Cola and shop at Wal-Mart! My neighbors thank you!
George Bush
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
is Infidel Number One, an enemy of humanity!
OH MY GAWD
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
"racist and evil and imperialistic gringo republican party is good for nothing except spreading their hate of american supremacy and plundering the resources of latin america. "

Plundering? Examples please - investments maybe, PLUNDERING?

"gringos are out to steal the amazon "

f**king hell, again where´s the proof - every god damnded uneducated country in the world thinks the US is out to steel something from them. If you got out and traveled more, you´d discover that there are more myths and fears floating about than facts. The Amazon invasion myth is just too pathetic and simplistic for words. My bet is that you couldn´t name 5 cities in the Amazon, let alone KNOW the Americans are out to take it.

"and look at all the gringo inspired coups in nicaragua, venezuela, guatemala, chile, brazil, argentina, and other nations. "

Check your own history - the US did quase NADA in Brasil. Think about it this way, if the US is having such a problem in IRAQ (a year and a bit and counting), why did Brasilians role over and take it up the ass on March 31 1964 - without a wimper or a fight??? Not a shot FIRED. You f**kers that wimpy? Iraqs are fighting back, if it´s true the US LEAD the golpe in 64, you f**kers are just plain pathetic. PUSSIES.

"republican gringos are nothing better than racist and white supremacist diablos!!!"

Don´t they have schools in Brasil?
Al qaida
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Now we're quoting the Arab homicide bombers, oh goodie.
American made problems
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
The problems in the Amazon are indeed American made: from the American LEFT (environmentalists). If you go down the Amazon and see people in canoes begging for bags of clothes, blame the ENVIROMENTALISTS from the UN and from the portion of the US that voted for John Kerry. Let people in the Amazon sell wood and make a living!

:-) Support the South: Drink Coca-Cola and shop at Wal-Mart! My neighbors thank you!
Fox News for TRUTH??
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Are you high? Fox News as a source of Truth? Fox News told everyone that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, which they didn't. They told everyone that Iraq had solid connections with Al Queda. They didn't. They say that Iraq was a haven for terrorists under Saddam. It wasn't - Saddam wouldn't allow them to operate in his counrty because facists dictators don't like competitors. Rest easy though, Iraq is a haven for terrorists now that the country has been destabilized. Of course you would never know that if you watch Fox News.They announced on the air that "Just a few dozen angry liberals" attended counter-innagural demonstrations in Washington. The protestors numbered in the tens of thousands. Fox parrots absolutely, positively, everything the White House press secretary tells them to. I'm sure the fact that Ruppert Murdoch is a large campaign contributor and supporter of Goerge W. Bush, and also happens to own Fox News (and tells his reporters what to report, how to report it, and if they should even bother to report it) is completely irrelevant, right? Just some liberal lies? Wake up.

Don't get me wrong, the rest of the corporate whores . . . I mena "media" are really just doing their jobs: Keeping Americans as ignorant as possible so that they will still believe the unending stream of lies and half truths they hear from their "leaders". If Amercians knew the truth about what the US really does around the world, they would burn the White House to the ground in a hot minute. Most Americans are honest, hard working people. Honest people must be manipulated and kept ignorant in order to facilitate evil. So you see, controlling the press is now essential to the US government in order to preserve their "national security" interests. Most Americans will be content to work their asses off 40+ hours a week, catching just a bit of "news" from the networks, and hope their mutual fund values don't drop. Their to busy jumping through their asses to make ends meet in the New World Economy to pay much attention to what goes on in the rest of the world. It's not their fault, its how Americans are conditioned. It's easy to believe the lies, when you really, really want to. Most Americans (not all) live in a bubble. They think blind nationalism is patriotism, blind adherence to ideologies of intolenrance and hate is faith (as long it claims to be "Christian"), and anything less than blind obedience to divine will of Chimperror Bush is 'unAmerican', 'unpatriotic', 'unGodly', and so on. It isn't. These things are nothing more than willful blindness that makes you feel good about remaining ignorant. As long as you listen to Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, ect., then you can remain ignorant and hope the real world doen't intrude and pop your reality bubble. There will always be plenty of other willfully ignorant, white, conservative, "Christian", men who share your twisted world view. So many in fact, that you can even believe the things you hear on Fox News - The last Bastion of Truth in the World.

End of rant.
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written by Guest, February 03, 2005
"The problems in the Amazon are indeed American made: from the American LEFT (environmentalists). If you go down the Amazon and see people in canoes begging for bags of clothes, blame the ENVIROMENTALISTS from the UN and from the portion of the US that voted for John Kerry. Let people in the Amazon sell wood and make a living! "

Here´s proof that not only the extreme left is loony, but the far right is not too far behind. Name ONE environmental group from the UN...PULLEEASSEEEE and then tell me how it´s creating poverty there.
FOX= godlike truth
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Others who told the american people they believed Iraq has wmd's ( And everything i say here is a matter of provable public record0
Bill Clinton, Madelline Albright, Kofi Annan , Richard Cohen, Al Gore, Jaques Chirac, Gerhard Schroeder, John Kerry , Tom Dashle . And these people were saying this ( as were almost all the worlds intel svcs) 2 YEARS BEFORE BUSH EVEN TOOK OFFICE ! So get the tube of glue out of your nose and exsorcise your inner fascist.
What a rant
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
"If Amercians knew the truth about what the US really does around the world, they would burn the White House to the ground in a hot minute."

So what is it you KNOW that we should? Please be specific.
evil and bastard republican gringos are
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
these dumb republican gringos are out to steal everyone's land.

they did all sorts of coups in latin america and stole the lands and resources of the campesinos.

evil and racist bastard republican gringos. take a hike fool republican redneck gringos.

you savages are the scourge of this planet, for supporting oligarchical right wing governments in latin america and the world.

we need more heroes like chavez and ortega and castro to kick your sorry and racist imperialist ass. long live marxism, liberation theology, leftists parties and movimento sem terra.

dumb hick southern gringos. go chew on your tobacco, you dumn hillbilly gringo southern republican hicks.

hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoh! huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh!
Sixth grade
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
would do wonders for you! That's why thay call it GRAMMAR school!
Re: Rant
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Oh and you DO know all that the US does , how is it that virtually every person on the planet who shares your viewpoint , whenthey air their views in a public forum , when confronted w/ facts go off into paranoic recitals of conspiracy theories . The last refuge of the moron either hit me w/ facts or your just flagellating orally pal
do you remember ......
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Hey united states do you remember your old friend zimmermann?i don't forget operation brother sam
re ;remember
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
Zimmerman ??...... Can't recall .Was he a neighbor of Mengele's down in SP?
r.member
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
on the net you can do all.the mexico stay on your borders,and off course they was partner off menghele but not in sp
evil and bastard republican gringos are
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
hell with them evil republican southern trailor park tobacco chewing redneck hicks, who like to steal others stuff. hell with you pigs.

these dumb republican gringos are out to steal everyone's land.

they did all sorts of coups in latin america and stole the lands and resources of the campesinos.

evil and racist bastard republican gringos. take a hike fool republican redneck gringos.

you savages are the scourge of this planet, for supporting oligarchical right wing governments in latin america and the world.

we need more heroes like chavez and ortega and castro to kick your sorry and racist imperialist ass. long live marxism, liberation theology, leftists parties and movimento sem terra.

dumb hick southern gringos. go chew on your tobacco, you dumn hillbilly gringo southern republican hicks.

hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoh! huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh!
Tudo Estao Maluco
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
You're all freaking nuts!!!!!!! How about everybody taking responsibility and ownership for both of our country's actions? Nobody's perfect, work together on s**t like this. You want a utopian society, it aint gonna happen this way. It's all just a big s**t sandwich, and everybody's going to have to take a bite.............
the fire
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
axis of evil? ....Politics is like religion, you may think you know what the answer to life is,
but in truth, you never know. Likewise, when we elect the George Bushes into office,(i did not)
all we can do is shake our heads, and feel like most of the world does. Disgusted.at what our leaders have done, and are doing..The danger comes
in typecasting the American public as being all Bush supporters.Nothing could be further from the truth. Don't forget, there are many people here from every country
on the planet, trying to find a better life. Capitalist pigs?.. maybe. But most people don't live in luxury here, there are many poor. But the opportunity does exist to
lead a decent existance...no matter what country you are from. So please, don't typecast all Americans. Those of us who dissaprove of what Bush stands for , are sickened,
and have to live with it. You just get to write letters of dissaproval.
Marblex
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
Am ashamed of the Bush regine and their unspeakable crimes against humanty. I love America and hate how these f**kers are perverting her and all she stands for. BUSH STOLE THE ELECTION
Sandals
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
Yeah! I hear he went places and gave half of a pair of sandals to lots of people, telling them they get the other half if he wins. Ooops, my mistake, I thought we were talking about Brazil. "Bush stole the election", where did you get that, www.granma.cu ? Maybe Castro should show us how to win an election. Chavez has an interesting re-election strategy: Arrest your opponent!
most people supported 64
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
Most people in brazil supported the 1964 coup. That is a fact. Mr Castelo Branco who took office after the iresponsible demagogue João Goulart was overthrown did a splendid job under the economic vision of M.R Roberto Campos. The following military presidents After CB ( Castelo Branco wanted to return power to the civilian bust was defeated amongst his military peers) engaged in running up a foreign debt to finance development under a closed economt ( exactly the opposite of what castelo branco and roberto campos did). Just a bit of history before people start yelling "viva che guevarra".
Oh dear .....
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
yeah, tax us, then increase state spending ( as if a state would want to decrease its hold on society) and take away our freedom to decide what to do with the result of that very human activity called work. Take away the fruit of our labor so to patronize us, to make our experience on this earth mora about what YOU think it should be than what We CHOOSE it to be. We will be here, insulting americans, not really paying attention.

Associação Comercial de São Paulo se mobiliza contra MP 232

Veja a entrevista em vídeo

Da Redação

Cresce o movimento contra a medida provisória do governo que aumenta o imposto de renda e a Contribuição Social Sobre Lucro Líquido pagos pelos prestadores de serviço que optam pelo lucro presumido. A Associação Comercial de São Paulo planeja um ato contra a MP no próximo dia 15. Dia 17, um manifesto será levado a Brasília. Segundo a entidade, 65% das empresas brasileiras serão penalizadas se a medida entrar em vigor no dia primeiro de março.

"As conseqüências serão o aumento do desemprego, do preço e da informalidade", avalia o presidente da Associação Comercial de São Paulo, Guilherme Afif Domingos. "O governo aumenta os impostos na mesma proporção da despesa", critica Afif.

A Força Sindical aderiu hoje à Frente Brasileira contra a Medida Provisória 232. Para o presidente da Força, Paulo Pereira da Silva, o governo vai ter que decidir se prefere votos ou o aumento do imposto. "Do jeito que está, a MP vai provocar o aumento do desemprego e da inflação", analisa Paulinho
America Is Now Paying...
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
For several decades of evil foreign policy againts almost every nation in all continents...for brutal power and blind greed.

The only nation on earth that have their Embassies blown up is the United States, and its citizens in thecrosshair of many individuals out there. Now why is that? It goes back to the paragraph above!

Yes, there are many many good decent American citizens like any other nation, but the American government and its gun policy spread hate against themselves and it is really counterproductive.

Being a US citizen, I just pray that people of other nation understand that it is not a fault of my own that my government is dubious and iresponsible, and that Washington does not represent my ideas either. That is all.



I Love Bush...
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
He is so nice and besides, Lula only have 9 fingers!
Re: America Is Now
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
You should be ashamed of yourself. Politics ends at the waters edge, postings like your demoralizes our troops. It seems like you want Bush's initiatives to fail. Your neighbor's suffering is ok with you as long as the left gets power. When you call my President dubious, you call me dubious. I take it as a personal insult.

-A proud gun owner
Dubious
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
Speaking of "dubious" i was considering taking shooting and self defense lessons so to better protect myself. Now the brazilian government wants to take that right away from me with this whole disarmament idea.
- a future gun owner? me? dubious
The only nation
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
The "america is now paying" states that the united states is the only nation that has it´s embassies blown up. ell i don´t think that is true yet having an attack on your embassy can mean that your country sticks its neck out while others do not as much as it can mean that your country engages is questionable acts. I don´t think all is black or white here. For example take a look at africa. The united states stook its neck out for somalia while the french still meddle in the affairs of many of its ex-colonies to its own benefit and when the going gets tough like in the ivory coast the french troops just come in to the country to rescue its nationals and leave everything else to go to hell. America is not perfect but your views are unrealistic.
action not words
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
If Brasil hates the USA so much..do something about it. Become an enemy, openly oppose the usa in every forum, drop out of environmental and military agreements, show up at the UN and say everyone should be like us...but for god sake do something and stop all this useless talking.

Just be prepared when the Brasilian economy falls by 23%, unemployment soars over 40%, banks, companies, and international instititions pull out, and the country teeters on anarchy...

Will this make us all happy? If yes, then do something NOW and stop talking.
action not words 2
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
Expectable radical America reaction...no compromises only extremism!

The US has a huge deficit of common sense starting with that monkey man at the top, George Bush, "you are with us or against us." Translation, if you don't agree with our policies we are going to destroy you. This has a dimension that reminds me of Nazi Germany!

I am ashamed to say that I am a US citizen...Washington does not represent by any stretch of the imagination, my and many other peace loving citizens, Americans or otherwise.

For those radical republicans I only pray that "their kids" are sent to Iraq as invaders and die for George Bush. Then, let's see how you feel at that point! Radical Americans are a nuisance to the United States and the world at large.

Good day,




ashamed....US citizen
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
LEAVE THEN!!! You want my kids dead, huh? Now THATS leftist compassion. Owens/Frist in '08! Re-elect Governor Perdue in '06!
Bush The Fool: Shame on You
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
Who wants to lead USA into a war but never served himself - the Monkey George Walker Bush.
Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Kuba. Who is next? I just wanted to see your List?
Liar
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
but never served himself. We call this sour grapes! Your ideology is irrelevant! You lie beacuse you are desperate. After a great liberation operation for Iran, Syria, North Korea, Cuba, who is next? I vote Venezuela, then Zimbabwe. Then tell the Chinese they had better follow Libya's example or suffer the consequences!
One good thing about America: Trust in t
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
Comparison: In the United States you can buy newspapers from a metal box on the street. You just put in a few coins and take ONE newspaper. This would never work in Brazil because a poor Brazilian would take all the newspapers and sell them elsewhere.
Poor Brazilians?!?!?!
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
A rich "I'm better than everyone" Brazilian would be a more likely suspect!
The USA
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
America is the only nation in history which has miraculously gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization…

The Political And Commercial Morals Of The United States Are Not Merely Food For Laughter, They Are An Entire Banquet!
Brazil Dictatorship
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
I remember a Brazil that I loved very much, the streets were safe to walk at night, the currency was stable, no drugs. Of course the morons such as Lula and Cardoso were in exile and the military controlled the country, it was nice.
One good thing about America....2
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
Fool.....what are you talking about?

"Comparison: In the United States you can buy newspapers from a metal box on the street. You just put in a few coins and take ONE newspaper. This would never work in Brazil because a poor Brazilian would take all the newspapers and sell them elsewhere."

I do that everytime I get the paper and sell the others to my neighbors!

This is America...motherf**ker c**ksucker white boy!
American mentality
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
USArmy general finds 'fun' in killing....link:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8AA2F0E0-F7D7-4B95-A456-FF8BCB4D295A.htm

Reasons why americans are loved throughout the world!

Hehehe....
Blood thirsty Bush
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
Another dead faggot marine today.
brazilian don\'t care
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
THIS AUTHOR IS COMPLETELY NUTS. THE AVERAGE BRAZILIAN DOESN'T GIVE A s**t TO ANY OF THESE ISSUES. ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS TO TRY TO GARANTEE NEXT DAY'S MEALS AND HOW TO FIND A (OR KEEP) A JOB.

I SUGGEST A POLL TO SEE HOW MANY BRAZILIANS COULD MENTION CORRECTLY WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA AND WHERE IS THIS COUNTRY LOCATED. ONE COULD ALSO VERIFY HOW MANY WOULD ANSWER "I DON'T KNOW" TO THE QUESTION "ARE YOU ANTI- OR PRO- AMERICAN?". WHAT DO YOU THINK? I AM PRETTY SURE THE RESULTS WOULD IMPRESS THIS AUTHOR.

ON THE OTHER HAND I AM QUITE SURE THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE, IF ASKED, WOULD SAY THEY WOULD LOVE TO SPEND HOLIDAYS IN THE USA. IN FACT THE MOST POPULAR DESTINATIONS OF THOSE WHO TRAVEL OVERSEAS.

THIS GUY NEEDS TO GET OUT OF HIS LUXURIOUS HOUSE AND GO TO THE STREETS AND TALK TO PEOPLE BEFORE SAYING THAT BRAZILIANS ARE THIS OR THAT. HE SHOULD GO AND BUY HIS OWN BREAD AT THE 'PADARIA' INSTEAD OF ASKING HIS MAID TO DO IT. HE COULD CATCH A BUS SOMETIMES,VISIT THE LOCAL PUBLIC SCHOOL PERHAPS... THESE ACTIVITIES WOULD TRIGGER NEW PHILOSOPHYCAL THOUGHTS !
brazilian don\'t care
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
THIS AUTHOR IS COMPLETELY NUTS. THE AVERAGE BRAZILIAN DOESN'T GIVE A s**t TO ANY OF THESE ISSUES. ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS TO TRY TO GARANTEE NEXT DAY'S MEALS AND HOW TO FIND A (OR KEEP) A JOB.

I SUGGEST A POLL TO SEE HOW MANY BRAZILIANS COULD MENTION CORRECTLY WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA AND WHERE IS THIS COUNTRY LOCATED. ONE COULD ALSO VERIFY HOW MANY WOULD ANSWER "I DON'T KNOW" TO THE QUESTION "ARE YOU ANTI- OR PRO- AMERICAN?". WHAT DO YOU THINK? I AM PRETTY SURE THE RESULTS WOULD IMPRESS THIS AUTHOR.

ON THE OTHER HAND I AM QUITE SURE THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE, IF ASKED, WOULD SAY THEY WOULD LOVE TO SPEND HOLIDAYS IN THE USA. IN FACT THE MOST POPULAR DESTINATIONS OF THOSE WHO TRAVEL OVERSEAS.

THIS GUY NEEDS TO GET OUT OF HIS LUXURIOUS HOUSE AND GO TO THE STREETS AND TALK TO PEOPLE BEFORE SAYING THAT BRAZILIANS ARE THIS OR THAT. HE SHOULD GO AND BUY HIS OWN BREAD AT THE 'PADARIA' INSTEAD OF ASKING HIS MAID TO DO IT. HE COULD CATCH A BUS SOMETIMES,VISIT THE LOCAL PUBLIC SCHOOL PERHAPS... THESE ACTIVITIES WOULD TRIGGER NEW PHILOSOPHYCAL THOUGHTS !
Read the article!
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
You will see it refers to one pro-American NEWSPAPER or JOURNALIST or ELECTED OFFICIAL!
Those who don\'t know history are doomed
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
How does it feel to have the chineses up your asses? Not easy to corrupt an official when penalty is death, huh? One may call it poetic justice, USA being defeated in the game they created. USA not only inspired the 64 coup, USA quaranteed victory, by putting ships on the way to Brazil. Can you be so naive to believe USA doesn't meddle in Brazilian affairs, or Chileans affairs for that matter? As a philosopher, the autor should know USA is mostely based and existencialism, this isn't some kidden garden where we have to play nice and love each other. Can you say FTAA isn't some plot to gather support to fight big China in the next 20 years, be it military or economical? The key word here is existencialism, you blind bible thumpers should know a little more about your eden.

No, we have no love for Americans, no as in Americans don't know where Brazil is. Yes, is it that bad...
I Don\'t Blame You Brazil
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Nobody has ANY love for Americans - not even rational minded Americans like myself. America is full of shyt. A racist white supremacist BULLY quick and eager to find another ass to kick. 9/11 was the first time in history when America slapped the s**t out of someone and finally got slapped back. After 9/11 all some stupid Americans could ask is "Gee whiz, why does the world hate us?" As if the US hasn't spent the past centuries kicking everybody's butt.

America gets no love from the world. Why would she?



bastard racist republican gringos
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Up yours, your racist republican gringos.

it was mostly the racist and evil republican party, which caused all the coups in latin america.

These bastard republican gringos, even went so far as to do a coup against president hugo chavez in 2002, as if coups against the PEOPLE of chile, nicaragua, brazil, guatemala, el salvador, grenada, argentina, uruguay, was'nt enough, which resulted in the deaths of millions of innocent campesinos and leftists people.

long live chavez, castro, daniel ortega.
republican america is the nazi germany of the 21st and 20th century. deserves to be hated by all peoples, races, continents, and cultures on the planet.

bunch of no good tobacco chewing, racist, slave trading, cynical, genocidal, bigotted, evil and no good and truly devilish republican american party!!! the hell of this planet and the perfect anti-christ, although draped in the hypocritical language that they support christ. these are the world's perfect anti-christ and jesus christ is truly sad and pitiful of these evil republicans, who are using his great name to spread american imperialism and terror and right wing and slave trading and racist white power ideology in the world, by squashing the campesinos, socially inspired people, and the leftists and humane people of this planet.

evil republican party!!!!!!!
Those who don\'t know history are doomed
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
"USA not only inspired the 64 coup, USA quaranteed victory"

Ya, and the US did it in ONE DAY without a SINGLE SHOT being fired. Vietnam 17 years, Iraq almost two - you f**kers are really simpletons and pussies if two or three operatives could wave around a couple of bucks and change the course of your entire future - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

- get real and stop the conspiracy theories. The coupe was internally designed and lead, the US supported the regime change, but did little to help. There was NO NEED for help.

Stop getting you info from Joao Nenguim at the local boteca
Did you know?
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Did you know that LULA was actually in favor of the 1964 coup in brazil at the time it happened?. He was not alone. The majority of brazilians were for the military intervention. Why? Well for the fact that inflation was rampant and corruption was huge there was also the always omited fact that the leftists that want to govern brazil were inspired by marxist ideas and brazil is a christian nation. This is why you will find religious groups amongst the many that marched in FAVOR of the military. Well Lula then figured out that it was better to be a union leader and from there he discovered that to improve in life you can do three things, Improve yourself and develop your talents, become a criminal ( risky and imoral) or become a politician and have a political platform based on class warfare. he selected the third option.
God
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
God saved brazil in 1964. In 2002 when lula won god must have thought to himself " you must be joking".
Those who don\'t know history are doomed
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Corruption IS still huge, I know they don't teach common sense in American schools, but you should at least deduce that yourself. We had a 450 year old problem, a thicking bomb, US stole our opportunity to difuse it, now we have a 500 year problem, thanks, Americans are so enlightened. I know you never met your neightbor, but don't know anything about people? Of course you're going to find people that support any conceivable idea or ideal. Does support make the cause right? Does the fact that Nazism had supporters make it right, or the nuclear bombing of Japan, or the Jew holocaust, how about 9/11, then that marvelous, even Allah condoned it. Of course no shot was fired, the needed change occured, wether it's the right change is irrelevant, people will always disagree on what's right. When Americans wanted the Vietnam war over, was there any shots fired? Or when Bush invaded Iraq only because Sadam was "evil", how about when Bush stole the election, I heard some eggs were trown, but no shots.

Are there any Americans on site that actually know anything at all?
don´t be naive
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Corruption is tackled by an independent judicial system and good public prosecuters plus an active and vigilant civil society. Had brazil turned into a marxist orientated dictorship like goulart wanted and people like jose genoino, jose dirceu and so many others were planing then this country today would be a lot more corrupt and would be authoritarian. The military despite their shortcomings were the best or least worse option. The courts during those times were still independent in many aspects ( criminal and finacial crimes) were prosecuted. The judicial branch during the military regime was only limited when it came to political crimes. Had we sucumbed to a marxist dictatorship no part of the judiciary would be independent ( look at cuba where they shot disidents and arrest people that want to open up their own business unless they are high members of the comunist party). In 1964 brazil took a step back so not to take one hundered steps back. Now we are strugling to get democracy to be more efective. this will take time and is a learning process. The Lula government is a perfect example. Thsi government has allready tried to impose censorship on the media and expell a silly foreign corespondent. If we did not have a judiciary people like jose dirceu would turn brazil into what he always wanted it to be. A marxist dictatorship.
Ironic
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
It is ironic that if the military had no intervened in brazil impeding the comunists to take over then www.brazzil.com would not even be allowed to exist. We wouldn´t be exchanging ideas and insults here. We would be home memorizing comunist party slogans and so to chant them after our dictator finished his five hour speech. if you look at it all the cussing and insults on this thread are very bearable in comparison. Viva o Brasil de todos nós.
Those who don\'t know history are doomed
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
How do you know communism would be implemented? Why does it always lead to commusnism? How does the idea of a united europe sound 100 years ago? If it wasn't for the wars, would there be such a union? How would the US be if there were never a civil war, or if the British hadn't fought back? Can you really say appenpted communism wasn't good for China or Russia? What exatcly was Russia and China 100 years ago? Our country was on the verge of a revolution, such revolution were stolen from us, such decision was made for us. Not only did we not learn how to make revolutions, but now we believe a revolution is not possible, that corruption is an universal constant. Common sense kids, think a little bit, connect the dots, well, when China start making the decisions in your country, you shall get a taste of your own medicine...

"If we did not have a judiciary people like jose dirceu would turn brazil into what he always wanted it to be. A marxist dictatorship."
Didn't you say the military coup prevented us from taking 100 steps backwards? Our country is still in the same state it was 40 years ago, the population haven't learnt anything new, what exatcly are you saying?
still naive
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Didn't you say the military coup prevented us from taking 100 steps backwards? Our country is still in the same state it was 40 years ago, the population haven't learnt anything new, what exatcly are you saying?
Brazil is worse in some aspects than it was forty years ago. look at crime. Back then we did not as much nor did we have the hideous crimes we have today such as KIDNAPPING. WHO INTRODUCED KIDNAPPING IN BRAZIL? The political prisoners did. the same ones that were trained in cuba ( like jose dirceu for example) and were arrested in brazil because of bank roubaries and guerillha fighting. Wjat they did do in prison? They taught the prison population the tatics they learned in cuba. These people are the ones that wanted to take over brazil. So you don`t think they would implement a ruthless authoritarian dictatorship in our country? That is your right. I, on the other hand think that if we knew what they would have done we would choose the military one hundered times over. By the way I have been to china. It is a terrible place for the average citizen. Of course i don´t know everything about china, nor would you if you were to go there since the press is censored and things like the sars epedimic are ignored and denied until they become an international health problem. You see this is comunism. The people are just pieces in a game that can´t be sacrificed and moved according to the rulers wish. If you disagree you get a bullet in your head and your family recieves a bill in the mail. A bill for the bullet.
my naive mistake
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
The people are just pieces in a game that can´t be sacrificed and moved according to the rulers wish.

I meant to write

The people are just pieces in a game that CAN be sacrificed and moved according to the rulers wishes.
@Those who don\'t know history are doome
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Firstly, what makes you think you are only dealing with Americans here? A pretty far-shooting assumption.

Secondly, why blame the US for anything in Brasil if, as you state, Brasil had 450 years of problems to begin with? Makes no sense. They STOLE your opprtunity? Greeeesh. The coupe was HOME GROWN. Why don´t you just admit it, Brasil has always been a country with problems, but only recently you found your scapegoat. I guess the Portuguese should be relieved that they´re not to blame anymore.

Instead of chastising Americans for not knowing anything about history, you should at least attempt some rational arguments. You´ve been spoon fed such a steady diet of nonsensical conspiracy theories your whole life that you´re devoid of the resources for any analytical self thought.

The US has done diddly SQUAT to Brasil to merit the reckless blame they receive vis a vis the conditions Brasilians currently dwell in. If you were Nicaraguan, I´d hold my tongue. As long as you keep telling ghost stories, and refuse to look to your current realities and the REAL cause of the problems, there will be no hope for further growth in your country.

I´m not an American, and I´m not happy with a lot of things their government does and has done, but only a fool would think they are the sole perpetrators in everything that has ever gone wrong with this planet. To lay all of Brasil´s woes on them is even more proposterous.
an inteligent bush critic
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Aqui vai um artigo anti-bush do site www.lewrockwell.com
http://blog.lewrockwell.com/le...07331.html

existe critical fora do circuito esquerdista e criticas com constitencia

Moderate vs. Radical Libertarians and Bush
Posted by Anthony Gregory at February 3, 2005 08:54 PM

When I listen to Bush, I try to put myself in the shoes of different political types – centrists, liberals, conservatives, and indifferents. I especially try to listen to him as might a moderate libertarian who doesn't keep up with the news much. Well, last night, Bush sounded kind of decent from this perspective. He spoke of "private" accounts for healthcare and Social Security, simplifying the tax code, and the importance of liberty, harkening back to the abolition of slavery, the end of fascism in Western Europe, and collapse of Communism. He tried to have it all ways on immigration – rejecting amnesty, proposing to make it easier for certain illegal immigrants, appealing to somewhat sound economic reasoning, and yet promising to close the borders to terrorists and drug dealers (as if this is really possible).

To a moderate libertarian, this doesn't sound too bad. Sure, Bush wants to create government medical clinics in every poor town in America. Sure, he sounded pretty aggressive against Syria and Iran (though didn't actually say he'll go to war). And, sure, he said he wants a Constitutional Amendment to "protect marriage." But, overall, he must have sounded much better to the moderate libertarian than many of the Clinton SOUAs did.

Is it impractical to be a radical, and to ignore those aspects of Bush's agenda that might appeal to the moderates? Well, when we consider that Bush has expanded government far faster than any president since LBJ and Nixon, totally destroyed the Fourth Amendment, increased regulations, inflated entitlement programs, imposed protectionism, proposed to nationalize identification, introduced plans of mandatory universal mental health screening of America's children, and launched America into its bloodiest land war since Vietnam with no end in sight, and now promises more, more, more of the same, I don't think so. Bush promises to reduce the deficit by half in four years. Even if he froze spending and taxing at current rates, the federal budget would still be about one-third bigger than it was at the end of Clinton's reign. Even if we embrace moderation, Bush hasn't practiced it at all in the realms of corruption, warmongering, profligacy, and usurpation. If to be moderate is to scour such a record for silver linings and downplay the atrocities, count me out.
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written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Everyone here knows what the South needs right? Yup, you guessed it another good dose of Reconstruction!!! It's the only way to change them....
the real threat to brazil
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
I just finished listening to an interview with Franz Fischler, the European Union's Agriculture Commissioner at the World Trade Organisation
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/pro...536129.stm

Here is a quote from him M.R Fischler
"We reduced really drastically our export subsidies. We went down from 25% to 9% and we will reduce it further. We offered the possibility that we are prepared to phase out altogether export subsidies for those products which are the interest of developing countries."

He is saying that they reduced the amount of EXPORT subsidies ( not subsidies in general) from 25% to 9% of their TOTAL BUDGET. I don´t think this means anything. The real question is if these subsidies as distorting trade regardless of the reduction.

Further on Mr Fischler goes on to say that a new system must be established where "poor" countries will be benefited. He says that " competitive" countries like Brazil and Australia should not be allowed to get the share of the market that their competitiveness would allow them.

Basically the european union wants to judge on who should benefit regardless of who is better. This is a disaster not to mesntion that a closer look at such " lovely intentions" reveal that regardless of how competitive you are WE ( the european union) will decide who the market share goes to according to our views and our interests. This is bogus. I think there should be no subsidies and if the consumer wants to benefit a certain country or region he should pay the price for their products according to market value and the government should not make all the consumers pay a certain price to benefit the country or region that THEY selected. In other words Brazil who would be able to stretch its competitive muscle is not allowed to do so because african countries are in worse conditions than brazil.
Lets look at this from a diferent angle. Brazil is in a worse condition than europe and the united states so lets give preferential treatment to brazilian airplane manufacturer embraer over canadian bombardier and Airbus and Boeing when it comes to aircraft purchases. This would be unaceptable to both americans and europeans but the europeans think it is their right to make the same decision concerning agricultural goods.
I think this will drag down for a long time because the tipping point towards a rational agreement were the americans and they decided to increase their subsidies instead of taking the traditional free market path that most republican administrations have taken during history. When it comes to dealing with foreign trade bush is a democrat.
The attempt american shrimp farmers to impose higher tarrifs on their brazilian competitor has been decided. . It was under judgement but now the american shrimp farmers have won and brazilian shrimp will suffer a larger tarrif.
It is incredible.

Those who don\'t know history are doomed
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Oh, let's see if I understood everything, the coup was home grown, US did not interfere in countries with marxist tendencies and Americans don't know history, and shouldn't know history, because history and obvious history tedencies are irrelevant. Well, what can I say, maybe it's just not within our spirit, and THAT we can blame on the portuquese.

Now on the subsidies:
I can understand US and EU reluctance to let part of their economy die just to do the "right" thing. Brazil should look for third world partners, as our government has, certainly that will be more lucrative and perhaps more "righteous" in the long run.
bulls**t
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
By the way, alcantara is in Maranhao.
wrong again
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
"Oh, let's see if I understood everything, the coup was home grown, US did not interfere in countries with marxist tendencies and Americans don't know history, and shouldn't know history, because history and obvious history tedencies are irrelevant. Well, what can I say, maybe it's just not within our spirit, and THAT we can blame on the portuquese"

We are talking about brazil hence the U.S did not interfere in the 1964 coup.
Consider this, just consider it. In 1964 after joão goulart had allready been in office 9 monthst prior to janio quadros resignation and was moving into a radical plan with extremely marxist ideals which the brazilain society felt would worsen the allready chaotic situation the country was in the military, with popular support, overthrew the joão goulart government. You claimed that the united states by aiding ( although it just supported the overthrow as a positve thing and let the generals who did the work know that it would be seen as something positive) prevented brazil from learning how to enact revolutions . Well that 1964 overthrow could also be seen as a revolution. A revolution against a future marxist, anti-catholic government. To you a revolution was prevented, to most brazilians at the time a revolution was done by the military to prevent a government they did not want.

"Now on the subsidies:
I can understand US and EU reluctance to let part of their economy die just to do the "right" thing. Brazil should look for third world partners, as our government has, certainly that will be more lucrative and perhaps more "righteous" in the long run."

Those third world partners ( like india) are just as protective of their agriculture. It won´t serve brazil a bit to join them and then have to concede exemptions on a market that due to brazils competitive edge would be predominantly brazilian. Brazil i think has to engage the united states which has a lot more to offer and surely will oblige brazil to open up its market to the americans on government procurement ( na maioria dos casos obras publicas). This way brazilian agriculture wins and brazilian construction will have to compete with the americans which in general lower the prices of those government works and benefits the brazilian taxpayer ( allthough our obscene government will make up another excuse to raise taxes but thats another matter) and provide brazil with better public works ( obras).
Ostrasizing the americans is a stupid, stupid move for brazil. Who is going to absorb our exports? India? Who is going to push for free trade? France?
learn how to be pragmatic my friend.
Those who don\'t know history are doomed
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
There is a great tendency for Brasilians to assume that "to MEDDLE" is the same as "to IMPLEMENT", or that "to SUPPORT" means "to INSTRUCT" or "to MANDATE". No one here is saying that the U.S didn´t have spooks flogging handfuls of cash to those opposed to the political direction Brasil was sliding into at that time. Christ, the Soviets were doing the same damn thing only they were cozying up to the marxist guerrillas.

You do know that Latin communist groups were supported by Cuba's DGI intelligence service and its Soviet big brother, the KGB? Powerful left-wing factions within the Catholic Church and foreign sympathizers also aided the insurgents in their campaign to COMMUNIZE South America.

The hard-core Latin American communists were not gentle social reformers, as their leftist supporters in North America and Europe pretended, or as stary-eye University students still posit today for that matter.They were ruthless, ideological killers whose heroes were mass murderers Mao, Ho Chi Minh, and Stalin.

The middle-class were terrified, and new that change was needed and needed quickly or they would face firing squads or gulags if the left won. Sadly, the right also entered into barbaric practises.

It was a much more complex environment at the time then the US simply telling Brasil to bend over and take it up the butt. Brasilians were very much involved in this struggle too. On either side.

Simpleton remarks like the US "IMPLEMENTED" the golpe in Brasil proves ignorance and a lack of understanding in your own history, and the inability to think through complicated scenarios. As well it raises, if I might add, a character issue on the part of Brasilians. As someone wrote earlier, if the US could walk into Brasil and topple the political structure over-night 40 years ago, while today they still haven´t managed to turn Iraq after spending 1 billion dollars a week, sending over100,000 troops over the course of two years, then that shows a weak and feeble, easily manipulated, and not very proud nation. Something I wouldn´t be very proud of if the truth be told.

But you needn´t worry. The US did not implement the golpe of 64. Sure they were happy when Branco rolled through Rio in his tank, sure money and intel traded hands, and yes, a battleship was present outside of Brasil if things got messy, but in the end, the golpe was an idea concieved of and IMPLEMENTED by Brasilians.

I agree but ....
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
I agree with the above post except the person also does not know a lot about brazilian history. Brazil fought of invaders many times thru history. the dutvh were expeled from brazils northeast. The french were expeled from rio and were driven back in the amapa state towards the point which BRAZIL saw fit the its border should be with french guyana. brazil kicked the crap out of the paraguayans and did almost all the fighting in a war that argentina and uruguay sided with brazil. Brazilians ( not the army mind you but local milicias) expeled the bolivian army from todays acre state , a state which was only recognized by brasil and allowed to join the brazilian union over a year after its independence from bolivia. Brazil invaded uruguay and was expeled from that country 8 years after even so it kept a large part of the teritorry which is now part of the state of rio grande do sul. Remember brazil did all this while and at the time did not have the numerical population advantage it has today.
So if you think we would roll over at the sight of any foreigner then keep thinking that. In the end being underestimated works for the side that is underestimated. However your ignorance on this subject is astounding.
bastard gringos
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
most evil and devish empire and baby killers in the history of this planet!!!!

evil, evil, evil and anti-christ (really a devilish) empire!
pro bastard gringo
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Cara eu sou brasileiro e o unico "baby" aqui é vc.
Those who don\'t know history are doomed
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Finally, Americans meddled, the military chose the lesser of two evils, and our country was stagnated for 40 years. It's very hard to find Americans schooled in the principles of double think and newspeak to understand that. I couldn't care less wether it was right, wrong, good, or evil, but stagnation is unforgivable. USA did what was in their best interest, as is dictacted in existecialist ideals, we were merely victims, casualties, collateral of USA's ride to glory on a half devasted world. Tell your comrades that mother US of A isn't so innocent, and that its glory wasn't attained through much merit.Americans are sounding more and more like the muslins, maybe that's why they're irritated, you're stealing their sleeping pills...
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written by Guest, February 05, 2005
"I agree with the above post except the person also does not know a lot about brazilian history."

We´re not talking about other battles, are we? And the last paragraph wriiten brings it all home, read it again. I´ve got nothing against Brasilians, and I don´t think they´re pussies (in general - whiny brats, yes, pussies no), I only brought up the example to show how simple minded and naive some can be, thinking that 40 years ago the US said JUMP and Brasilians said HOW HIGH.
bastard racist republican gringos
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
The above article (bastard racist republican gringosWritten by Guest on 2005-02-04 21:52:04 ) is the best and true description of the USA. the person who wrote it shows the understanding of world affairs and has a good grip of the history of US crimes against the people of the planet.I send my congratulations to him. For sheer evil no country in history of mankind comes close to the US not even the worst excesses of the Nazis.And lets not forget that the US was pro Nazi up until 1943. They only joined the allies when Europe was just about liberated by the mighty and brave RED ARMY.They would have joined the Nazis if it looked like they were going to win. Let's not forget that in the 1940's the US was just as racist corrupt and very anti communist like today. The arch enemies of the Nazis have always been the communists.So it's not hard to see why the US had a huge Nazi party supported by no less the grandad of the present warmonger in the WhiteHouse GWBush Grandad

Insane
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
This ongoing finger-pointing and name calling on this posting is ridiculous. I cannot believe words like these coming from the Brazilians I have known and admired over the years. We have "family" in Brazil, and they know they are part of our family here in America.

I am a conservative Republican, and here is what I believe in:

1. I have worked for everything I have. I didn't come from a wealthy family, in fact we were very lower income people. But I have achieved things with just a high school education because here in America that opportunity exists for anyone who wants to work for it.

2. Conservatives here are no different than anyone in Brazil who goes to work, cares for and loves his family, and wants the good things in life for himself and everyone around him. And we are not all wealthy. My Grandfather was a die-hard Republican, and he never made more than a few thousand dollars a year. Conservatism is not wealth and power, it is people having the right to control their own destiny, relying on themselves, and their ability to achieve the things they want in life. We don't dictate to others how to live their lives, or look down on anyone. But we do have core beliefs about right and wrong, and we believe that people will take care of themselves if they are given the opportunity. And believe me, we will fight to the death to preserve our country, and our way of life. My wife and I have two sons in the military, one of whom is serving in Iraq now, and our youngest son is joining soon. We are more proud of them than I can express. And I know they will all do whatever is asked of them, because we taught them to honor God and country.

3. Yes, we have some very greedy, power hungry, and just plain nasty people here, but believe me, we are not alone. In this web site, I would venture to say that the majority of articles I see, or read, are people complaining about the corrupt and greedy politicians in... yes, Brazil!!! How can that be... I think we both, Americans and Brazilians, have our crosses to bear, and we ought not be casting big rocks at each other, rather at the corrupt and power hungry parasites that we find in both our countries.

4. And last, we are all posting our views on this web site, because I believe that America has set the example for the world when it comes to free speech and other rights that many of us take for granted.

God Bless America!

Viva Brasil!

Guest
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
People of Brasil..........
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
I am surprised by the tone in here. I served in Brasil back in the 80's as a liason to the Brasilian military. Most of the people I met were warm hearted and friendly to my country. The only ones who hate us are the narcotrafficantes and pessoas who haven't figured out yet that Marxism will never work. Do not pay attention to those few who would try to disrupt your life in order to serve their own agenda. Poverty and crime are a lamentable problem for every country in the world. Don't blame others for that which is a fact of life. Viva Brasil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the good news is ....
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
the good news it that most of brazils problems are caused in brazil and hence can be solved by brazilians looking at their soceity critically and reforming the structures of the brazilian state making it less of a nuisance and a impedment to virtues of an immigrant country like brazil> Brazilian entrepeneurship.
The bad news is that the brazilian state knows that and will use any mechanism available to stop that from happening. Blaming foreigners is an effective one as we can see from this thread.
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written by Guest, February 06, 2005
The government can't even make the media stop quacking about the government's wish to see statistics before they're make public. I would say our government isn't strong enough to impose orders in hope they will trickle down the ladder, as the IBGE nuisance demostrated. So you believe there's governamental dephamatory plot in hope to undermine USA's image before brazilians? Well, I guess that would make military coos backed by the land of the free a tad harder. Don't you know everything comes down to the French?
Here is what I think...
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
Bush is Full of Bus**t
You Don\'t Know the Half of It
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
Until you've lived in America. It is now Black History Month in America and some stations are showing all of the footage on the Civil Rights Movement. Evil white people throwing acid in black kids' faces and having them attacked by vicious dogs trained to kill black people. The racist white United States government sat back and let it happen and cheered the white racist KKK on and supplied them with the guns and bombs. The evil racists blew up a church full of little black girls.

They haven't changed. White Americans are still the most evil babykilling murderers on planet earth. They are still beating and murdering blacks in the US and murdering children overseas. They are right now bombing innocent babies in Iraq.

America is an evil wicked country full of KKK governments, police and politicians. It is truly the home land of (as the Muslims would say) the blue-eyed devils.
the footage
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
So you are watching footage of agresions suffered by blacks in the united states. Nice to see that a country faces up to its past. I would like to see an imparcial report about the 1964 coup but all i get is leftist propaganda about it. Pity that our filmakers who receive funds from the state are all lefties and are awarded according to conections and political patronage. You are blessed. You are now , during blavk history month, seeing a nation owing up to its past in an honest way.
I know a girl
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
I know a girl who is smart and hardworking and passsed the college entry exam without using the quotas. She will try to attend but money is an issue. Then i see crooks getting scholarships from cnpq ( up to 2100 dollars a month) to go overseas and study then remain there using our money to get educated join another society. This is what happens with these grants. Nobody should get them. Hard work , if you have low taxes, is enough. The lets give benefits mentality is only good for those who have connections so to get those benefits. In the end the part of society that does not need them.Then they say it is a question of perfecting the system but the system in itself is faulty. The problem in brazil is not the rich nor the poor but the state that throws one against the other, taxes both and spends that money on themselves and the ones connected to them.
If only we could face up to this. So people like the one i mentioned are not deprived of a better future because the state sucked the life of the economy by taxing it.
The african-americans children that suffered abuses in the 1960s in the united states have , along with the rest of america, built a country where their children suffer less discrimination. have we done the same in brazil?
Most of brazilians are pro american
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
Most of brazilians are uneducated, not interested in politics and will be very sweet to any american visiting Brazil. So if you want to see not one, but many, pro american brazilians, dear philosopher, all you need to do is walk down the streets!
Brasil: influenced heavily by EUA
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
I lived in Brasil for a year. I loved the culture, the music, the language, the beaches, quase tudo. there is so much anti-americanism there right now. that is for sure. I , as an American, have gotten a lot of negative attention simply for being an American. There is a lot of ignorance in the world inteiro. Not just in America, but in Brasil as well. Many Brasilians have told me: você nao tem cara de americano. America is also a melting pot like Brasil is. not all americans are either black or white. it's amazing how in the brazilian news, especially the news that comes on the radio at 1900 everyday, events relating to the united states is almost always the principal topic. the brazilian press loves to talk about the US.. the country is very different culturally than the US, but it is also very similar in many ways. many of my brasilian friends have agreed that Brasil is set up under an American model. there are many places that boast having an American Bar, and there are even american cars there that have a little sticker or plate that boast the car being American. as if making it more CHIC. accept or not, most brazilians like american culture and consider it chic, but i think that all the hype and the negative attention, that i would say that lots have been rightfully given, toward G.W. Bush has brought about so much of this anti-americanism. just admit it Brasileiros, you love us....and also in response to an article i saw on the front page of a newpaper a few months back about the US attacking the Amazon....IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I don't want to come off as an arrogant American, but if we realmente wanted the amazon, with our superior military might, we would have already taken it or at least tried because i know that the brazilian military is training hard with guerrilla tactics in a hypothetical case of such an invasion. and as far as the safety in brasil, i think there are too many shows that make people believe that is so dangerous in Brasil and rio de janeiro especially....i think such shows as cidade em alerta provide an exagerrated sense of the danger in brasil...i love rio de janeiro and think that outside of the violence between the policia and some faveleiros, that violence is that like any other major city in the world. that just goes to show that one shoud not believe everything that they read in the papers or see on television.

abraço a todos!
To those would-be socialists...
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Unfortunately, it seems that those who would be socialists who have commented above haven't come to the obvious conclusion yet - in order for socialism to work, it would require every member of society to be perfectly ethical. Since this is contrary to human nature, socialism has never succeeded.

"Before you tear something down, make sure that you have something better to put in its place."
Perfect
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
The post "To those would-be socialists" synthesizes perfectly the issue with communism / socialism. It would be interesting, though, to read some supporting views to that kind of regime around that theme, that is, can someone out there bring an opposing (but constructive...) view to this one? I am just curious!

Keep on posting...
to \" perfect\"
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
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written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Our society really need is a way to educate in hope to dimish people's dependency on religion. In today's society it's almost impossible to point out to people their craving dependency for drama, for conflict, for competition. They won't accept it, their philosophy or philosophies are in conflict with their religion, they can't even understand their own psychology. Mitos or logos, the closer you get to logos, through education, the more you distance yourself from mitos. In my opnion people are scared of their own thoughts and wishes, maybe they always been. What exactly are our priorities, what exatcly is progress, understanding should be our social structure, which would render the political structure useless.
America and Brazil
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
I am an American who has lived in SP, and maintain many friendships from my time living there. My experiences with Brazilians were almost uniformly positive, but my frame of reference is somewhat limited because my circle of friends was drawn from the Brazilians I worked with at an American bank-very educated, wealthy, English-speaking Brazilians who had studied and worked abroad. So I cannot claim to be an expert on what all Brazilians think.

I am, however, pretty in tune with what the American people think. And I can tell you that there is not an imperialistice impulse throughout the country. America was founded by people who wanted freedom to live their lives according to their own beliefs, and that point of view still strongly influences how most Americans view the world. Americans have no interest in influencing how Brazilians live. In truth, most Americans could not care less about what happens in Brazil, or in any other part of the world. The size and strength of America, combined with the fact that almost everything one needs resides within our borders, means that the vast majority of Americans have not the slightest interest in what happens in other countries.

And as a military veteran, I can assure you that any theory regarding US expansion into the Amazon is completely false. The only reason today that the American military operates in Latin America is so that we can slow the flow of drugs into the United States. If Colombia was not the major source of cocaine into the US, the military would not be there (I am not blaming Colombia or Latin America for America's drug problem. I believe the problem is demand, not supply). The other concern in Latin America relates to Venezuela and its oil. Chavez would not appear on American radar if it was not for the oil that Venezuela imports to the US. No oil, no interest. So you can all rest easy with regard to US military intervention in the Amazon. Quite frankly, Brazil and Latin America are of no real importance to the US.

Now people often assume that because Americans are not curious about the rest of the world that Americans are stupid. This is very far from the truth. I have found in my travels around the world that the American people have more native common sense than any people I have met (and I am from an immigrant family). Americans have a realistic sense of the possible, while maintaining an optimistic view of the future. Thus, when we see others struggling with the basic things that we as a country figured out centuries ago (how to feed our people, how to create a just system of laws, how to allow for wealth creation with a modicum of justice, etc.) we look upon others with a mixture of pity and contempt. We did it, we think, why can't they? An unfair view, some might say, and in certain instances I might agree with them. But the US views itself as a nation built on self reliance and hard work. Failure is viewed with shame here, and people work hard to avoid it. Failure is viewed here as personal, not systemic. Now this understanding of failure does not apply to Latin America. There ARE systesmic problems (literacy, diet, opportunities for improvement, the list is long). Most Americans do not understand that, and it hardens them to problems that are much greater than what we experience in the US.

In truth, the problems of Latin America are internal. The basic, most fundamental problem in Brazil is that the elites hold all the power, and do not intend to give it up. I always tell my friends that being rich in Brazil is the greatest life in the world. The law does not apply to you, you can pay someone a pittance to live in your house and wait on you hand and foot, and your circle of friends and family will work hard to help you maintain that lifestyle, not matter what the cost. Where is the motivation for those that run Brazil to change this system? If they change it, their maids might demand more money and better working conditions. They might actually go to jail for the crimes they commit. They might have to pay more taxes to educate the populace in manner that will allow them to read more than a grocery list.

Has America made mistakes? Undoubtedly. But in focusing on the gringoes from the north, Brazilians risk the chance of looking with a critical eye at the problems at home. They are internal, and will only be solved by Brazilians.
To:America and Brazil
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
That, I think, is about one of the most constuctive and well written blogs in this section. Nicely put. Please contribute more.
To: To:America and Brazil
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
That's just over simplification, if today USA has a huge middle class is just because the elite figured such would be lucrative. Please don't tell me USA was founded on some utopian ideal of just rightfulness. If it wasn't for the civil war and european wars, USA wouldn't be much better than Brazil.We're starting to sound like democrats and republicans, plato and aristotle, if so, this is fun, but pointless.
Relating to the 64 coup, any of you watch "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised"?
Gringo republicans are the SS, gestapo,
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
the evil republican gringos and all the states that voted for the republican party is the modern day gestapo, SS, and 21st century nazis.

beware of the gringos from the gringoland. they are the worst terrorist and supporter of coup against peoples revolution not only in the world over, but also in latin america.

unite the entire planet of all races, black, red, brown, yellow, and white and fight this scourge of republican led nazi gringoland, that is out to steal the amazon and do coups against leftists governments of the world, that care for the people and the public, like castro, chavez, and even maybe lula, if lula had followed a more leftist part.

the gringos did and supported the coup in brazil, chile, nicaragua, venezuela, argentina, chile, guatemala, el salvador, panama, and on and on and the US were responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent children, women, and old people.

the gringos stole from dying and hungry babies and gave the money to the right wing oligarchy. the republican gringos are thieves and they want to colonize latin america for the right wing gringo supporting republicans.

beware of the gringo republicans. they want your life, your land, even your wife!!!!!!!!

we need leftist and socialism in latin america, not gringo inspired right wing oligarchy supporting, white supremacist, Nazi ideology.
America and Brazil
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
You are right that my earlier e-mail was an oversimplification. On a blog one has to make points quickly. If you and I were sitting in a bar in Chicago (where I currently live) or in Pinheiros (my old Sampa stomping grounds) we could discuss all the nuances of this particular debate at great length. The medium limits the extent of discussion.

From your reply I am assuming you are Brazilian and still living there. I am no Brazilian history expert, and imagine my Brazilian friends are not experts on American history. If, however, you are curious you might want to look at the story of the Pilgrims that first settled Massachusetts in the 1620's. I do not have the space to elaborate, but suffice it so say that you will find a marked contrast between their motivations in moving to the New World and the motivations of the first Portuguese that settled Brazil almost a century earlier.
And I think we can all agree that of the two experiments that were conducted side by side in the New World that the United States results have been far, far more successful. Don't forget-the Brazilians had almost a hundred year head start in a much more hospitable climate. The first winter that the Pilgrims spent in the New World almost half of them died of disease and starvation.

Humans are flawed. Mistakes are made. If we wanted, we could catalog a whole series of things America did wrong in its history, and the US is no utopia. But if you look at the outcome of the American experience in the aggregate, you will see that no system in the history of the planet has produced more wealth, more education, more liberty and more freedom for more people than the United States. Even now, almost 400 years since the beginning of the American Experience, people all over the world still clamour to get in, legally or not, to take part in an attempt to better the lives of themselves and their children. This is something we should all celebrate. We Americans have no desire to see the majority of the worlds people remain in poverty.

Americans are all the people the world never wanted, and we are all aware that poverty and oppression is in the blood and history of every American family. We were not settled by lords and ladies, but by all the world's rejects and castoffs.

As to your point on the bigger middle class being a tool used by the elites to enrich themselves, my response is, "So what?" Human beings respond primarily to one motivation-self interest. And in the United States it is in the self interest of the rich to create more middle class people that will buy products, thus enriching the elites even more. This contrasts with the Brazilian system, in which the elites keep the middle class small and the poor class large so as to preserve their unaccountable way of life. Which system has produced a better quality of life for its citizenry? Spending time pondering motivations in this way gets you nowhere.

As to your final point on the US benefitting from the wars of Europe and the Civil War-there is some validity to your comment. The US benefitted hugely from the second world war especially. At the end of WW2 the US was the only industrialized nation with its factories and infrastructure intact. Britain was exhausted, France occupied and plundered, Germany and Japan flattened, and Russia bled white by 20 million casualties. The US alone escaped devastation on its home soil, and as a result in the period after the war (1946-1970) the United States enjoyed a period of unchallenged economic superiority. This would not have happened without WW2.

If you look back farther, however, you can see that the US really gets going as a world power after the Civil War. By the beginning of the 20th century the US had overtaken Britain as the largest industrialized power in the world, and that title has not yet been relinquished. The US was well on its way to its place as the world's dominant power by 1898 (when it defeated Spain and took over Cuba, the Phillipines and other Spanish territories throughout the world). Take some time to do some research. You will see the American engine got going much earlier than you thought.

This forum is an interesting place to exchange ideas, but it only really works if the posters do not automatically assume the worst of those that write in. My goal in posting is to relate my experiences as an American who has lived in Brazil that can hopefully add a new perspective to the discussion. The goal of all of us that share an interest in Brazil should be to constructively discuss problems and solutions with the goal of bettering the lives of all people, Brazilian or not.

To \"Gringo Republican\" Author
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
You're pathetic! More leftist socialism, that's the answer. In case you have been living in a dark cave for the last15 years, you may have noticed that Communist, socialist countries are disappearing from the earth. Next on the list are the radical Muslim regimes. George is working on those now.

Face it loser, you are part of a dying breed of small minded, uneducated fear mongers, who only know intimidation, and control of the weak. If the U.S. invaded Brasil, it would be to rid it of people like you.

Hey, have a good day!
ralph wiggums
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
my finger fits in my nose!
Inteligent post
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
I agree with the above post. I must say though that the one he posted before that had a flaw in my opinion. He said the elites in brazil are not taxed enough and this keeps education at a low level for most brazilians. i would like to point out that the brazilian state removed 36% of the wealth of the country last year thru taxes. Brazilians in general are heavily taxed and the middle-class is actually taxed the most. Brazil also spends more on education per capita than its south american neighbors. I don´t think a society can promote self-resilience with a huge tax burden. As for those in brazil who cheat on their taxes, from the rich buisinessman to the street seller ( camelo) i comend you. Do not pay taxes to brazilian state except the IPTU which is supposed to pay for the infra=structure in your neighborhood. Also set an example, don´t pay taxes and don´t expect to recieve anything from the government and be PROUD of that.
By the way argentina also prospered after the european wars because it was in a good position to supply agricultural goods to an destroyed continent( europe) but argentina today is a poor country because its people did not learn how to diversify from agriculture so it does not have a competitive industry plus it always falters to the populism and blaming foreigners for their problems that their leaders use to their political advantage. Brazil, except for having actually developed a robust industrial sector, suffers from the same problems as argentina to a lesser degree, yet still enormous in my view.
So you have to build wealth and maintains wealth and create more wealth in different fronts. Thsi is what the americans achieved.
ignore all these so called moderate grin
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
all republican gringos are blue eyed devils and they only want to start coups and steal your land, oil, wife, and kill those who deny them their daylight robbery of our latin american resources and leftist and socialist governments.
by the way
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
By the way what is wrong with having maids? One person ( the maid) offers a service while the other person hires that service and pays for it. I do not have a maid and if i could i think i would hire one. It would create a job and give me more time to pursue other things.
THE SWITCH
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
"all republican gringos are blue eyed devils and they only want to start coups and steal your land, oil, wife, and kill those who deny them their daylight robbery of our latin american resources and leftist and socialist governments."

REPLACE 'REPUBLICAN GRINGO" WITH LEFTIST AND SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT AND YOU HAVE THE TRUTH.
To \"Ignore(ant)\"
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Hey, you got me there! OK, I give up! You're the winner!

Wow, what are you going to call your utopian, leftist, socialist paradise?
RE: Inteligent Post
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Thanks for the compliment. Your reply is exactly the kind of posting that makes it fun to write into sites like this.

Your point on taxation is dead on with regard to higher taxes being a problem. If I gave the impression in my post that only higher taxes were the solution to the education problem I apologize for not being clearer. You are correct in that Brazilians are heavily taxed, the middle class the most. This is the way of the world, I am afraid. The rich can hire people to help them hide their money. The middle class cannot afford those kinds of services. In my time at an American bank in SP my Brazilian counterparts receieved a large part of their end of year bonus in US dollars deposited in an off-shore bank so as to evade the Brazilian tax authorities. Does the poor guy working at Banespa have this option? Probably not.

The problem with education in Brazil shares similarities with the US and its current (although much smaller) problems with education. All of Latin America neglects education at the public level. This is why no self respecting Paulista (or is it Paulistano?-I always get them mixed up) or Carioca attends a public school. A public school attendee in Brazil learns to barely read and write. This is a nationwide problem and it keeps the majority of people from being prepared to study at a more advanced level. America has the same problem with regards to bad public schools, but the problem is geographically isolated and affected a much smaller percentage of the population.

Without a populace that is educated at an advanced level the level of poverty in Brazil will not materially change. Look at Ireland as an example of a country that was quite poor fifty years ago. The country made a committed investment in education and now has a workforce capable of doing whatever kind of work a business may require. The country is booming as a result. Obviously it is a MUCH smaller country than Brazil, but then the potential resources of Brazil if harnessed effectively are that much greater.

Chile has decided to invest in educating its country to be bilngual in English. Chilean educators recently traveled to Sweden to study how the Swedes had done this (most Scandanavians speak fluent English). The Swedes showed them their methods. They also told the Chileans that the process of creating a bilingual nation would take 40 years. That is the level of commitment it takes to get serious about education.

I am no expert in taxation. The methods of financing education must not be so severe that it cripples the economy of Brazil. At the same time, Brazil must decide just what kind of investment it wants to make in ALL of its people, because the decisions made today will affect the next 40 years of Brazils future.
RE: RE: Inteligent Post
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Thank you for the compliment, and no, I do not live in USA. As you mentioned the decadence of the American public school system as compared to their Brazilian counterparts, we can infer the education problem is clearly beyond mere funding. As you noted the 40 years need to implement a bilingual program, my guesses are the same 40 years would be needed to rid Brazil of the rotten incompetent public school teachers, just as USA, with a similar, on a lesser scale(or not), problem. As you said, who cares if your social status is a mere priviledge dependent on the wishes of your elite, I'm glad you can see the pattern, and hope you can see all the implications of such. I would like to note hardship is more much incentive than hospitable climate, making Brazil not prone to prosperity. You might say I'm making excuses, or am I?
determinismo geografico
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
I would like to note hardship is more much incentive than hospitable climate, making Brazil not prone to prosperity. You might say I'm making excuses, or am I?

What you have said above is called geographic determinism ( it think that is how it is translated to english). Anyway it is not considered to be true by most experts on the subject of development.
Progress for all nations
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
I think that if any nation wants to flourish all they have to do is replace their consitution and instead follow the " the economist" magazine and what it preaches. That simple
Mr Bush
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
WELCOME to Rio de janeiro and show me how good can you dance?.
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written by Guest, February 08, 2005
I personally think that we are making a huge mistake by not discussing the need for political reform before all else. The number of federal deputies sent by the state of Sao Paulo is an excellent example of the need to reform politics. Currently, the state sends around 75 deputies to Brasilia, but according to the lastest population figures Sao Paulo should be sending around 125 deputies. The need for political reform is needed in order to strengthen the economic voice of the people.
Personally, a parleamentary system would work much better in Brazil today than what currently exists. In a parleamentary system, the party that received the most votes would elect a prime minsiter. The party could more easily push through the new Congress their economic agenda that they ran on. Minority groups would receive special protection from the government in power.
Also, Brazilians on average feel a closer cultural affection with the Europeans, thus their model for a democracy would seem more appropiate.
Dont forget that the "Economist" and all other organizations in Brazil have long tried to get the right economic formula. Brazil's economy expanded more than any other country in the world in the 20th century behind only Japan.
Disgusted!!
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
I stopped reading this piece when I got to the part that Bush is the North American president. The writer seems to forget that Canada is also part of N.Amercia and is a independent country with it's own culture, goverment and is the 2nd largest country in the world and the number one supplier of oil to the USA.This Carvalho guy is just another example of ignorant Brazilians that still think it's alright to have 1000's of kids on the streets with no food, no home as long as it does not touch their status quo.
Ah, a canadian...
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
Tell us about the love Canadians feel for USA, and how glad you are that everyone considers Canada USA's bottom bitch. Maybe we Brazilians are just irrational when it comes to loving the land of the free...
At ah a Canadian
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
"Tell us about the love Canadians feel for USA, and how glad you are that everyone considers Canada USA's bottom bitch. "

Maybe so, but we´re not considered to be a country of whores, thugs, 3rd world simpletons who after centuries still can´t manage a stable civil society.

You do know that even Argentines call you Brasilians MONKEYS - that petname coming from another 3rd world s**t hole. Can you imagine what those of us in the developed (CIVIL) world think about you...

Brasil? There be dragons there - kkkkkkkk
To dumb canadian above
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
Thanks for destroying my faith in Canadians, read post again...
On the Argentinean...
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
It's not our fault the Argentineans view themselves as pure blood south american nazis, and is viewed by most of the world as such.Unlike their German counterpart, who can actually backup their claim to be a superior race by going from ruins to conquerors in 10 years, our neighbor Ariens can't even establish superiory inside one economic arena in our little jungle. Looking through their eyes, we actually have an excuse, we have been hauling impure blood that only wants carnaval for centuries now, what is their excuse?
Oh Canada
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
They are pissed because bombardier cannot build planes as good as ours...
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written by Guest, February 09, 2005
--They are pissed because bombardier cannot build planes as good as ours...

Ya, that´s it. Duh.....
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written by Guest, February 09, 2005
I usually like Canadians, this one is from a defective batch... Maybe he was raised too close to the south border.
Get real Brazil, give your citizens a ch
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
WOW!! what a forum. it feels like opening a can of worms with TNT in it
you have just to mention the US to an average Brazilian and BAM!!!
I was born and raised in Brazil. Today, after 16 years I am about to
become an US Citizen. NOT a dual-citizen... a very proud American
citizen ONLY... I will officially renounce my Brazilian link to a Brazilian
consulate...
I went to Brazil just recently after a decade and half away and what I experienced there was something I could never been prepared for.
I am a Bush supporter because I think I would have done the same thing he did in regarding the war and sending the message abroad that America is not
a country of sissies. Such belief has been counted on for too long by most terrorists and wrong doers... "America will retreat as soon as it starts getting its sons and daughters in body bags..."
The number one job of the President of the United States (dont know about
other ountries) is to defend the American people and that's precisely what George Bush did.
Back in Brazil, I met few people willing to listen my side of the story and
from a different angle but the vast majority had no clue what they were talking about...they had the facts were so distorded about the US agenda that it was hard to believe they had gotten their news from the mainstream
media.
I wish all Brazilians had a chance in life to archieve their dreams and goals.
The goverment has taken that dream away from them all and points north for all problems in Brazil's history.
In 2004 I found a Brazil, in my view, totally different from the one I left in 1989. It took a dive for the worst... I dont know....
The Sleeping Giant has been dormant for too long... the world has changed... to get where Brazilians want the country want needs lots of hard work and commitment to a better place. Corruption is a tolerable cultural practice...
For All mad guys in the forum: I read the news, I watch the news from a large pool of sources and I hardly ever spot anything about Brazil. I wish
I did... nothing... much less rumors about the Amazon takeover, etc.. pure lunacy.
Well, I enjoyed my stay there because I was far removed from any major city and also from reality (a parallel one, maybe?).
As a US Citizen-to-be, not planning to return anytime soon... not worth the hassle.. I will put my vacation money somewhere else..

If America is your enemy.. try to get to know your enemy better....
maybe you're scared that you might fall in love for such terrible place...
I can say proudly that the United States of America has always been my home and I will defend her whenever and whatever to whoever...

You go girl!
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
A match made in heaven! We get rid of a lunatic, and GWB gets another strange bedfellow...
Is he serious? let go of the damn enter
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
Well, maybe your children be good soldiers to the empire and die in vain. Amen...
to the Bush supporter...
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
Oh yes, the USA media, should you told an American that Brazil has been using ethanol cars for 20-30 they will prolly say "isn't that impossible?" I heard a lecture by an American College Professor on global warming and alternative fuels, they didn't even mention the ongoing use of ethanol or such use in Brazil. Who knows, maybe no one cares or no one cares to mention that your children might be dying for oil in vain. Of course the media doesn't mention Brazil, just as it doesn't mention France, or U.K, or Germany or Japan, except when we try to enrich some uranium for electricity, or to link our left leaning President with Stalin through their mutual over drinking. Brazil was a military regime just 20 years ago, partly thanks to the cold war, maybe you don't know, but totalitarian governments generate corruption, there isn't much any one man can do. Enjoy your citizenship, oviously you don't have the stomach to succeed or improve anything here. Hell, I wonder why you bother comming to this site.
Don\'t renounce Brazil citizenship
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
To the poster want to renounce Brazil citizenship when getting American citizenship: Don't do it! Just wake up to the idea that Brazilians LIKE being exploited. Use your dual citizenship to SCORE SOME CASH!! Be a puppet owner to an American investor in a Brazilian company or real estate!
ask the illegals
written by Guest, February 12, 2005
Maybe you should ask one of the estimated 500,000 Illegal Brazilian imagrants to the US what they think about it. Maybe they would love to return to a currupt, 3rd world country and give up thier ten dollar an hour job that supports thier family both there and here in Brazil,,,
So they can support the fat politicians here at ''home" instead.
Sadlly we are human
written by Guest, February 12, 2005
I have read many of the postings here and there is much truth to what both sides have said.
I am a man of african decent , amrecian born of a long line of americans. I know that we have racism here in my country. I have seen the effects of its poison and fear on my beautiful country. And I greave and work to make this the country that our great words command us to be.
So I will share with you the lessons that I have learned.

1]You can always spot this evil little weakeness when the person speaking sees only your faults and none of their own.
2]You can always spot an affected group when they speak on your weaknesses but never mention any of your strengths.
3] You can always spot the afflicted when they attack you personally . And mix truth and lies together.

When you meet these people, regardless of their race, nationality , or sex- they will be just as likely to shoot you with the very gun that they are telling you to put down.

Sadly I must admit that we Americans of the United states can be insensitive , arrogant, rude, heartless, abusive, and ignorant. In other words we are human but not always humane.
But we are no different from any other country in the world. It is both the weakness in our culture and its strengths that have made us what we are today. Far from perfect, but we are not your demon.
If you want to understand how we can behave so badly you need only look to your own hillsides of Rio or the poor that I have seen well dressed women literally step over while on their way in to a store. Or the beautiful children sleeping on the beaches and begging for money when they would be better served in school.
I have been to your wonderful country many times. I love the culture and potential of Brazil. I would like for Brazil to grow economical strong. For all of our short comings we have also fought polio, brought forth penicillin, and inspite of the courses of our government we the American people have , in our time, feed over 1 BILLION people and sent clothes , teachers, and tools. I am sorry that we are not perfect . We will try to do better. How about you?
Get real Brazil, give your citizens a ch
written by Guest, February 13, 2005
To the uniformed ignoramus donkey who will renounce his Brazilian Citizenship for a US one here are the facts.
The number one job of a US president is to look after the interest of the parties who put him there, ie the big corporations and their cronies and not to look after the security of the US people as you wrongly claim.If he was looking after the security of the US people he would not invade a country by telling lies.The whole world knew that this gangster invaded Iraq so the US will have control of it's oil and gas resources so he can hand over to his mates like Halliburton.

If you cannot believe this you are a bigger fool than I tought you are.

People in Brazil will not listen to you because you showed yourself to be and ignorant, uninformed fool by actually admitting that you get your news from mainstrem US media which the whole world knows are no more than vehicles for lies and propaganda to further US interest.

If you want to listen to real honest news go to Al-Jazeera and you want a better picture of what is going on.If you want pro yankee bulls**t go to CNN, Foxtel, New York Times and all the radio stations in the US.So you are the one with no clues ( not the people you spoke to) and your facts distorted.

Are you aware that in countries like France Germany or the UK (US allies)more than 80% of the people hate the US and about98% hate George Bush. Are you telling me that these people have no clue too? You call people" the Mad guys" and read the news and watch news from a large pool of sources. What you read and watch in the US is dishonest propaganda and lies.The fact that no one agrees with you should tell you empty brains that you could be wrong.Lastly if you want to defend your country pick a gun and head to Iraq and see what sort of reception you will get. Also I'm not from Brazil but from Australia

regards
From Brasil
written by Guest, February 14, 2005
You want to read some real bulls**t...read Globo! You renounce your Brasilian citizenship if you think it is the right thing to do...I wish the last poster would renounce his for a country covered by Al Jazeera...but I'll bet his wife our daughters won't. They would have to wear a vail, couldn't go to school, never have a job, never vote, and quite possibly have her clitoris removed to she could not enjoy sex (although she probably doesn't anyway),have no rights, and be treated worse than animals..while he smokes hash with the boys, and runs around wit bombs strapped on his chest to blow up women and children. . Oh, by the way a*****e...was not your own President relected by a landslide even though he supported Bush and the war...I have always admired Aussies as the stand-up people they are, we treat them good in Brasil...you my friend, must be an import.
I\'m not from Brazil but from Australia
written by Guest, February 14, 2005
Reading your post I was certain that English was your second language until you mentioned you are an Aussie (WOW). So then, given you can´t write properly, we can posit that your analytical skills are wanting too.

I love Aussies, the greatest people on this planet. But you´re proof that there are obviously some crackpots in the land down under too. Just like in any other nation around the world.

Al-Jazeera gives honest news? Wowzer, that´s just plain silly.
CNN, New York Times? To the Al-Jazeera f
written by Guest, February 14, 2005
Just in case you dont know, which obviously you dont, the
US mainstream media is ultra liberal and against Bush... They did
all they could to bring down the President during the elections.
Have you ever heard of Dan Rather and the memo fiasco?
CNN, NY Times, LA Times etc are run by a buch of socialists and
democrats and almost killed themselves after the AMERICAN PEOPLE
re-elected GWB and his policies...
But I dont expected you to know all that, after all, you are too busy
comsuming the propaganda the Brazilian goverment and pushing down
your throat...
Al-Jazeera??? did I hear that correctly? Al-Jazeera??
Get your facts straight boy
From Brasil
written by Guest, February 14, 2005
To the above idiot who claims (by the way a*****e...was not your own President relected by a landslide even though he supported Bush and the war) we in australia elect a Prime Minister and not a President.This is the point I try to make that you have uneducated idiots (not unlike George Bush)like the one above who have never read a book in their life and try to take part in political debates.I bet you this dullard would not know where australia is (not unlike george Bush) In fact I bet he will would not know his brains from his arse. So please go to school and do some history and Geography before you take part. In other words get an education!!!!To the other moron who thinks I can't write properly just have a look at your own writing and spelling mistakes and then point fingers. I don't know if these illiterate clowns are from brazil but they would be in the minority who will support the US facsist invasion of Iraq. My friends in Australia who do come from Brazil all hate the US. But these are educated Brazilians not like ones I have just pointed out.Lastly there is no socialists in the US . If you are a socialist in the US you will finish up in a concentration camp. Have you heard of Guatanamo Bay or Abu Graihb. That's american human rights for you.
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written by Guest, February 15, 2005
You just keep digging yourself deeper there s**thead. Go on all you like about how ignorant Americans are, but when anyone here reads your posts it becomes obvious that the only fool here is you.

-- If you are a socialist in the US you will finish up in a concentration camp.

Actually, socialists usually win academy awards for their documentaries you fool.
Although
written by Guest, February 16, 2005
Although concentration camps for socialists would not be a bad idea. i don´t mean places like gulags where a socialist would send anyone who disagrees with him if he were in power but just a CONCENTRATION CAMP where socialists could learn how to concentrate and then think rationally. Well after that they would no longer be socialists.
WOW!
written by Guest, February 17, 2005
All I will say is that I went on the internet to check out a vacation to Brazil. My husband and I would like to see the farming done in Brazil, as my husband is an American Farmer. By the sounds of what I have read on this website, I don't think we should vacation in Brazil.
To wow!
written by Guest, February 17, 2005
Dear Wow,

Please do come around. However much people may agree or disagree with W, no one takes it personally. I'm puzzled that some Americans seem to think they'll be hacked to death upon setting foot in Brazil. Definitely not true, as the experiences some expats describe in this blog attest.

I heard there are some American farners in the so-called "agricultural frontier" up in the Centro-Oeste (Mato Grosso, Tocantins, &c) . Maybe there's something up there for you. I konw nothing about farming or about the Centro-Oeste, but it wouldn't hurt to have a look methinks.

Regards,
To wow!
written by Guest, February 17, 2005
Dear Wow,

Please do come around. However much people may agree or disagree with W or America, no one takes it personally. I'm puzzled that some Americans seem to think they'll be hacked to death upon setting foot in Brazil. Definitely not true, as the experiences some expats describe in this blog attest.

I heard there are some American farmers in the so-called "agricultural frontier" up in the Centro-Oeste (Mato Grosso, Tocantins, &c) . Maybe there's something up there for you. I konw nothing about farming or about the Centro-Oeste, but it wouldn't hurt to have a look methinks.

Regards,
To wow!
written by Guest, February 17, 2005
Dear Wow,

Please do come around. However much people may agree or disagree with W or America, no one takes it personally. I'm puzzled that some Americans seem to think they'll be hacked to death upon setting foot in Brazil. Definitely not true, as the experiences some expats describe in this blog attest.

I heard there are some American farmers in the so-called "agricultural frontier" up in the Centro-Oeste (Mato Grosso, Tocantins, &c) . Maybe there's something up there for you. I konw nothing about farming or about the Centro-Oeste, but it wouldn't hurt to have a look methinks.

Regards,
To wow!
written by Guest, February 17, 2005
Dear Wow,

Please do come around. However much people may agree or disagree with W or America, no one takes it personally. I'm puzzled that some Americans seem to think they'll be hacked to death upon setting foot in Brazil. Definitely not true, as the experiences some expats describe in this blog attest.

I heard there are some American farmers in the so-called "agricultural frontier" up in the Centro-Oeste (Mato Grosso, Tocantins, &c) . Maybe there's something up there for you. I konw nothing about farming or about the Centro-Oeste, but it wouldn't hurt to have a look methinks.

Regards,
The truth at last
written by Guest, February 23, 2005
Thank you for having the guts to speak the truth, even if those who always value their own ignorance over reality will still ignore your statements' validity here.
BRASIL!
written by RC206, February 28, 2005
I have travel to Brasil the past few years,to hear these Brasilans talk, they all hate the Americans! I am from Europe,we don't hate America,we just don't agree or like their government.I talked to alot of Brasilians,most liked Americans and understood it was their government(NOT THEIR PEOPLE)America liberated alot of countries over the years and helped them rebuild.The Americans have an continue to help poor countries around the world,more than any other country.It's easy to blame,find the bad in someone and forget the good! If you were an American,I bet you would get real tired of everyone,talking bad about you! I think the main problem in Brasil,as in many countries(including my own)is it's easier to blame someonelse for your problems.You should look for soulutions,answers and stop blaming others.Freedom is the answer,communism,DICTATORSHIPS-FOR THE UNEDUCATED AND MISLEAD!J U S T LOOK AT C U B A ! When you start call people names,like GRINGO- IT REALLY SHOWS HOW STUPID YOU REALLY ARE! HELP BRASIL! DON'T BLAME America or Europe or Canada!
BRASIL!
written by RC206, February 28, 2005
I have travel to Brasil the past few years,to hear these Brasilans talk, they all hate the Americans! I am from Europe,we don't hate America,we just don't agree or like their government.I talked to alot of Brasilians,most liked Americans and understood it was their government(NOT THEIR PEOPLE)America liberated alot of countries over the years and helped them rebuild.The Americans have an continue to help poor countries around the world,more than any other country.It's easy to blame,find the bad in someone and forget the good! If you were an American,I bet you would get real tired of everyone,talking bad about you! I think the main problem in Brasil,as in many countries(including my own)is it's easier to blame someonelse for your problems.You should look for soulutions,answers and stop blaming others.Freedom is the answer,communism,DICTATORSHIPS-FOR THE UNEDUCATED AND MISLEAD!J U S T LOOK AT C U B A ! When you start call people names,like GRINGO- IT REALLY SHOWS HOW STUPID YOU REALLY ARE! HELP BRASIL! DON'T BLAME America or Europe or Canada!
A s i a !
written by RC206, February 28, 2005
You better worry about asia,fastest growing population in the world,thet care nothing about other people,the environment.They are taking over like insects,just look in your own country! wake up Brasil! face your own problems!
Yes, Asia
written by Guest, March 05, 2005
Yes, as you worry about America 'dominating' Brasil you don't notice that the companies making deals to cut down the rainforest are mostly Asian. There are Europeans who are mining. There are Japanese who are investing in Brazil. The USA investment in Brazil is actually quite small (on a % basis), but a lot of people seem to like to get worked up about it. Less than $29 billion. This is a drop in the USA bucket. However, no one is complaining about the Brazilian companies who invest in the USA, which is considerble. How would Embraer do if it did not have USA airlines to sell to? Brazil has almost a $ 10 billion in trade surplus with the USA. This is good for Brazil and helps the local economy greatly. There are lots of Americans who think Bush is a jerk too. Count me in that category, but please remember we have a lot more in common between our two countries than we do differences. Bush will pass, and we will go on.
SUkaferret
written by Guest, March 05, 2005
Its a shame that people are so quick to jump to the hate answer and start blaming the US for the worlds problems. But one thing Brazilians, and the rest of the world should do is some Research!!! It is a common knowledge that the Media is strongly Left wing!!! And a murder, kill, rape, invade, etc, etc story about the US sell much better the global advancment in FTAA, or the amount of Money that the US loan to country to better aid there govermnent, or even helping out in Tsumami. But through all of this bad press American's Left wing media is to blame. The worlds public opinion is base of the US's News media which holds about 85% of the global market (and is 95% left wing anti-bush). So it is very simple that the common Brazilian, or other person out side of the US get a bad picture of the US because we are (US) is talking bad about ourself via our 1st Amendment Right. So My advise, is before, jumping on the I Hate American bandwagon...Pick up a fact book, or hop on the internet and make your own choice, instead of CNN, and BBC making it for you! The world is a victim of the Left wing Press in the US...and The US is paying the price. But just stop to think for one second. If something really bad happened to your country, who would be the first country you expect to help! The USA. It like the old saying go: Everyone hates the Cops when they pull you over and give you a ticket, But second they save your life...they are your hero!!! Until you get another ticket.

Brazil Think for yourself. Do the math and DONT LET THE MEDIA tell you what to think!
GUNNY
written by Guest, March 05, 2005
Everyone HATES there boss, and always take crap about him behind his back...but they love the PAY check they get at the end of the week...

The World is the Employeess and the US is the BOSS....I think you should all wake up...before we turn your little Favilla infested country into GLASS
Hey Brazil!!
written by Guest, March 07, 2005
Don't like America? Pay off your debts to the IMF!!! Fix your own corrupt problems!
Great Site
written by Guest, March 08, 2005
All of this talk of the U.S. plundering Brazil and Latin America is a riot. Sounds everyone here has read "The Open Veins of Latin America." It looks like victimhood has its fans in Brazil; I used to think only American leftist liked that angle.

If Brazil is going to go the way of the Middle East and blame the U.S. and Jews for all their problems, its citizens will live in squalor forever.
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written by Guest, March 11, 2005
e mentira!!
REMEMBER.3
written by Guest, March 15, 2005
THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE NEED NATURAL RESOURCES TO INCREASE THEIR PRODUCTION OF ALL.AND OUR REGION IS RICH IN NATURAL RESOURCES LIKE WATER TANTALUM NIOBIO URANIUM BIODIVERSITY AND OFF COURSE WE HAVE TOO MUCH LANDS WITH NOBODY PEOPLE LIVING UP AND IF SOMEONE IN THIS FORUM DONT HAVE INSTINCTS I WILL SAY FOR YOU WHEN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SEE TATH THEY HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLES IN THEIR COUNTRY AND THEY DONT HAVE WATER BECAUSE YEARS OF NOSENSE WITH THE NATURE WATH DO YOU WISH THEY THYNK WEN SOMEONE SAYS HEY GO ON TO BRAZIL AND TAKE THEIR WATER BECAUSE THEY HAVE TOO MUCH OR URANIUM THEY HAVE TOO MUCH TOO OR TOO BETTER WHY NOT SEND TO THIS PEOPLE OF THE 3 WORLD OUR DEMOCRACI LIKE IRAQ,AFGANISTAN ,WE TAKE THE NATURAL RESOURCES AND GIVE FREEDOM TO THE PEOPLE
.ALL THE WARS AROUND THE WORLD EVEN IN THE ANIMAL KINDOM IS FOR SURVIVAL INDISPENSABLES NATURAL RESOURCES LANDS WATER ,PETROLEUM LIKE IRAQ AND AFGANISTAN,ONE PANORAMIC VISION AROUND THE WORLD WIL MAKE EVERIONE THINK WATH WILL HAPING TO MY COUNTRI IN THE NEXT FUTURE ?EVERIONE COUNTRY TATH HAVE NATURAL RESOURCES IN ABUNDANCI IS OVER THE CONFLITC THE MIDLE EAST IS THE MOST GREAT EXAMPLE BUT THE AGE OF THE PETROLEUM IS GOING DOWN REMEMBER IN THE 80 TWENTY DOLLARS THE BARREL ,TODAY 52 THE BARREL WHEN THE END IS NEXT THE PRICES WILL AT EXTRATOSFERICS ,IS ON THE HISTORI OF THE HUMAN RACE THE EMPIRES UP AN DOWN AND THE FALL OF DOLLAR IS THE SIGNAL DO YOU NOW HOW MANY BILLION DOLLARS THE ARAB COUNTRYS LOST IN THIS YEAR? WEN ONE ANIMAL IS WOUNDED THE OTHERS COMING UP FORM THEM AND ATACKING,TATHS IS THE REALYY TRUTH ABOUT THIS ALF THIS WORDS IS TRUTH BECAUSE AL OFF THIS GUYS IS TALKING ABOUT FILOSOPHI AND PERSONS ,BUSH,LULA,CHAVES CASTRO,THEY NOT IMPORTANT THE SATES ,BRAZIL ,EUA ,RUSSIA,CHINA,HAVEN THINKS BASED ON THE HUMAN NATURE AND ALL OF THIS STATES WIL GO IN WAR TO MAINTAINS THEYS SOCIETYS STAUS QUO ,REMEBER STATES DONT HAVE FRIENDS THEY HAVE INTERESTS.DURA LEX SED LEX.
The US on a new path... (lost)
written by Guest, March 15, 2005
As and American,married to a wonderful brazillian, I can tell you that I am shocked to learn that so many can be shallow enough to lump all Americans into one category.

America has a rich history. Americans are incredible human beings with a deep caring for people. We have, and have had our problems, usually led by the government not by the people.Coming out of WWI and WWII where Americans went to fight in another land to ultimately keep war from our shores, we found ourselves with the new enemy, communism. Then on to Korea to fight communism. Then on to Viet Nam to fight communism. Viet Nam was the awakening for the American people. We began to question our government for the first time since our Civil War. Rightly so.

Our people, as advanced as they are, are quite simple. Many do not understand the outside world beyond our borders, some not even outside a 200 mile radius from their homes. We have 4 main groups, fairly equally divided. They are 1) the conservatives; largely religious who believe in God and country and that if you aren't with them, you are against them, 2) we have the liberals who declare anything the government tries to do that in any way infringes on their rights is wrong. Liberals demand pure freedom to do as they please. 3) we have the middle Americans. Not the middle class, the middle Americans. This is where I find myself. We try to strike a balance between a little conservatism and liberalism. We try to balance our lives with what seems right to us. And finally we have group 4) those who really don't care about much outside of their little world and what influences their immediate lives.

Our political system is broken. Our political system is corrupt. It is much like the political system of any third world country. Our peoples are so divided that we cannot get together on hardly any issue of importance. Our government structure is the oldest government in the world. This does not mean it is right, it may just mean it is time for change. Every great empire has collapsed. The Roman Empire, the Austrian Hungarian Empire, the British Empire. What makes the American Empire different??? Nothing. It too will collapse. I believe I will see it in my life time as it is now underway.

Our religious right conservatives are leading our nation trying to impose their beliefs on other Americans and the people of the world. These people are blind to the fact that they are missled by dishonest corporate goons. But they are organized. They go to church every week, many more than once a week, where their preacher will tell them what to think and how to vote. The middle of the road American does not go to church every week and is less organized, therefore Bush. I believe this type of leadership under GW Bush is no different than the leadership of the Talliban imposing their religious will on their people.

GW Bush has returned the US rep**ation with the rest of the world to what is was under Nixon and Carter. It amazes me that many of my fellow Americans cannot see, or refuse to see this fact and the setback it has caused in the world going forward in a peaceful and prosperous way.

The US imports more than USD 1 Trillion + in good a year and exports less than USD 800 Billion. Our trade deficit with the rest of the world is over USD 400 billion. Our consumer market is a dumping ground fro the rest of the world. Our budget deficit to fight GW's war will bring down the American Empire. Our jobs are disappearing daily. I haven't seen my salary increase in 4 years as my job is directly related to the manufacturing industry in North America.

We are on a new path. Many don't know that yet but we are and we are lost. Within the next 2 decades, America will see a revolution. A peaceful revolution that gives control of the government back to the people and takes it away from Corporate America. And by the way, Corporate America is not American. It is an entity unto itself and will do anything to guarantee its own survival... Anything.

Americans are not the enemy of Brazil. We only want to work, raise a family and hopefully have enough money to one day vacation on one of Brazil's beautiful islands.

That's all...
Bush = Taliban!?
written by Guest, March 21, 2005
Bush has not imposed his religious view on the masses like the Taliban. I am an atheist that lives in the south; I am treated very well here. The truth is that most religious Christian are good people. To compare Bush to the Taliban illustrates how clueless you are. It's like the Bush is a Nazi comparision; it doesn't work. It's the Islamofascist who what to impose the perverted worldview on humanity.
That said, it's time for Brazil to clean up the border with Argentina and Paraguay. Most Brazilians might not realize it, but they have a problem there with Jihadis. If you allow them to operate there, the U.S. will have to come down there kill'm dead!
online directory main
written by Guest, March 26, 2006
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written by a guest, September 28, 2006
I am shocked by the language and general mud slinging fet that this thread has evvolved into...

Having lived in the US ,Europe and Brazil,i can understand some of the truths and the frustrations that my fellow internauts have expressed. I am disturbed though, by the rude and aggressive nature that we are treating ourselves.

The whole world is in turmoil today,and by pointing fingers and accusing everyone else,we will never arrive at a consensus that I am sure we all want,which is peace.We all must learn to look beyond our own egos and 'me first' attitude if we as a planet are to survive.

There are things i love about Europe,there are things that I can live without. Same thing goes for Brazil and the US.No country is perfect and no country or people has the right to impose its beliefs on others.

I am saddened by the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan which are killing dozens of people each day. Regardless of creed,nationality or religion,these people are human beings that have souls,a mother,a father...

I believe that every human should have the right ot travel and experience new cultures.It is by understanding that we will be able to get along.

It breaks my heart to see such dissention in this world. We all deserve better!!!!!
new wooden beds
written by david peterson, April 13, 2007
Nice about Brazil

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