Brazzil

I need clarification to the term "Apartation". Do we mean alienation or are we using apartation the same way "aparthaid" was used in South Africa.

My E-mail: SQuiles@salud.unm.edu

I mean, with a PhD in economics it can't be that hard to look it up.

Translated from the Portuguese by Linda Jerome - LinJerome@cs.com.

Someone said it clearly:
He talks to the left and works for the right.

How can this author word as a senator for a country that he believes to be an "impossible" country?

As he said "The adversaries will be the organized groups, insensitive to the misery and rooted in their own privileges."
There are lots of them not just in Brazil and they will use all the existent means (including injustifiable wars, etc) to avoid the defeat of the "imperialist right" in Brazil.
Imagine what a model Brazil would be for the rest of the World if it could succeed in this "Third" direction?

There is so much talk in Brazil about If and when that nothing ever seems to gets done, or if it does, it is usually at snail pace.

Can't Senators or lawmakers get their act together, reform this country and cut out these longwinded excuses?

Nothing is impssible, but the privileged elite must decide if they really want to reform Brazil instead of dithering and contemplating which only leads to immoblility!!!

"Brazil is NOT an impossible country, it is only governed by incompetent people who don't care about this nation".

those that are truly governing this country are far from incompetent. They're keeping the masses incompetent, and that's exactly their plan.

"Brazil is NOT an impossible country, it is only governed by incompetent people who don't care about this nation".
I agree that it's governed by people who don't care about it. But they're not incompetent, they succed in maitaining their privileges. That is their goal.
But what has to be changed is the whole model. In a "imperialistic capitalism" that's what happens: just a few very and very rich and an universe of miserable people. Brazil just
can't reproduce the schema: brazilians rich and the misery outside (in the rest of the World). There's already another one (the leader) in this place.
The way out is to change the whole model but the leader will do everything to avoid it.

Fair point and I agree that they have succeeded in maintaining their priviledges but at what cost? High crime rate, poor education for the majority no job expectations, poor housing and the rest. Are you saying that this is the only way the priviledged elite can maintain their wealth?

Does iniqualities and unfair distribution of wealth not come into this factor? Come on if Brazil was not a rich country and did not have such huge natural resources I could understand but this situation is basically about their greed, willful neglect whinging and unnecessary excuses.

If the priviledged elite want to maintain this status quo, they should not moan about the social situation that they have created and let the poor survive whatever way they can whilst they live behind gated communities and hoard their wealth.

Brazil definately needs a new model but it is certainly not the one which is presently in operation.

Change the model of Brazil

The point is that to have money doesn't mean to have insight.
It always worked like that in Brazil, the elite always controlled the situation and that went fine for them.
But now everything is explosing. There's too much violence and other problems. But they (the elite) still can't see that their model is not working anymore or may be they are just afraid of changes.
A pure "capitalism" doesn't exist the government has to look to the "social" too.

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"If the priviledged elite want to maintain this status quo, they should not moan about the social situation that they have created and let the poor survive whatever way they can whilst they live behind gated communities and hoard their wealth."

You can believe this, they are not moaning!! This was the intention, they have known what was coming and what is now here. They're not quite sure what to do about it, but as long as it whatever action taken eventually doesn't knock them off the throne they have no problems!! They'll sit and watch from their penthouses in Miami, Paris, London and Marbella.

1. Brazil is not a collection of the remnants of foreign isms - The cultural political system is Brazilianism - unique in the world and intact for 500 years.
2. The system is not controlled by an evil elete - the system has a life of its own and cannot be changed
3. Reform of any kind is impossible be it taxes, the Juciciary, the congress, the police, education etc.
4. Brazil is a kleptocracy whereby the system transfers wealth from those who produce to those who have power.
5. Brazil has a perfect political system - government by the rulers for the rulers and of the rulers - this government in no way represents citizens who have no power.
6. Revolution in Brazil is impossible - in order to have a revolution you neeed 3 things -misery, an ideology and a leader. Brazil only has misery.
7. The Brazininizm ideology goes like this " Brazil has enough riches to take care of everyone there is nothing worong with the system, vote for me and I´ll make the system give you what you deserve" - this ideology is shared by right, left and center politicians and by the Brazilian population.
8. Brazil is and always was a government of men and not of laws, consequently Brazilan voters are always trying to decide which man can put things right.
9 there is not one Brazilian anywhere in the world who realizes that the system is the problem which is why the system cannot be changed

I forgot to mention that Cristovam Buarque the author of this article is a member of the priveleged elete - he has accumulated several pensions from his political jobs, becoming fully vested while working only a few years in each one. he will recieve salaries paid for by taxpayers who must work their entire lives paying astronomical taxes to support parasites like him. The champion of this as far as I know is former president José Sarnay who has accumulated well over 100 government pensions

Americans always willing to give free advice....hehehe!

Why don't these" amoeba to humanity" follow their own words? Thanks, but no thanks!

Besides, if their advice was sny good, they'd sell it, not give it away...The only thing americans give away for free is a bullit. Shame on butcher Bush.

Yours always,

keol

If this system is as described above. Then, the poor have been "feeding the pigs of corruption" and this must STOP.

Keol - isn't that Magyar for c**ksucker? You would be well served just creating a "retread and overused" expressions page and just cutting and pasting from it on each thread . .

amoeoba to humanity - seen that one a dozen times

Shame on butcher Bush - seen that one too

The only thing you are apparently good for is repeating yourself. You know thousands of people die every single day - why can't you be one of them??

When you're as f**king stupid as Keol everything amazes . . .

Where is freedom of speech? This is suppose to be an open debate, each to their own!

"Where is freedom of speech?"

Yep, where is it?? When you have journalists, like the american journalist here in brazil that commented on Lula being a drunk he was threatened to be deported. It was Lula himself that attempted to throw him out of the country. Imagine if Bush did that for everyone that called him an idiot or whatever derogatory comment, he'd have to deport half the nation!!

Ridiculous!

I meant freedom of speech for everyone. I'm not knocking you but there seems to be a lot of negativity on this site.

If Lula is a drunk then he's a drunk full stop and should either get treatment or resign. Brazil is not a communist country, is it?

As for the journalists, they should be given the opportunity to write whatever is in the public interest, within moral guidelines, without being gagged or threatened.Now that is Freedom of Speech.

This childish behavior is incomprehensible, and simply unbelievable.

"Brazil is not a communist country, is it? "

It's a good question, that I ask myself often!

Keol,
Your advice is worth about as much as a dildo made of jello or out of your member, if the difference is distinguishable.

And as free as that of the Americans whom you despise.

The USA has done pretty well, which some countries here in Latin America (Brasil, of course, but also Mexico and Argentina) could have and should have emulated instead of looking down our haughty Iberian noses as a country full of less civilizied northern Europeans founded and settled by English and Dutch and Swedes and filled with Germans and Irish and two hundred years behind us passed us by in every conceivable measure of human achievement.

(Our great consolation is that they passed everyone else too. We love to share our misery.)

As I see it, no one's model or advice is worth more than that of the Americans.

BUNDA.

DOWN WITH THE USA...DOWN WITH THE USA...DOWN WITH THE USA...DOWN WITH THE USA...DOWN WITH THE USA...

Now then Gringolandia, place this well known words in proper sequence: OFF f**k

Thank you,

keol

Judging by the way this forum has descended into playground mud-slinging there seems to be a lot of children using this forum. I'm all for giving kids a voice but is this the place?

That is a joke! And be a nation of burned out, stressed out, Viagra swilling loonies that most Americans are. Is that what latin Americans want? At least be smart enough to look to socialist Europe for a good example and NOT the states.

45 million without healthcare. A backwards nation controlled by religious fanatics. No subsidized childcare and maternity leave for working parents. Is this what you call a just and fair nation? I advise Latin America to never ever look to the US for ANY type of model or you will end up in the same f-cked up state.

The only fools glorifying the US of Ass obviously have never lived in the sh-thole.

I've been to the USA five times . . . these anti-American bigots are propbably watching too much TV after being either too criminal or too cretinous to get a visa to the USA.

People there are warm and generous and as kind as they are anywhere in the world.

People vote with their feet - a lot more people elect to move to the USA than anywhere else. When Americans are sneaking into Brasil we can brag.

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"People there are warm and generous and as kind as they are anywhere in the world."

No my friend, the american PEOPLE ARE the most GENEROUS in the WORLD...and that is a statistical FACT.

American citizens GIVE/DONATE more money to other countries and foreign causes than any other country in the world....and in fact, MORE than the entire CONTINENT of europe!

Whomever calls america a s**thole, has certainly never been to countries such as brazil!

How do I file a complaint?
You said " generous ?".
Wait a minute please...

Sorry, I had to go out for throwing up.

You are wrong. Americans are either dumb or misinformed.
Sorry, but I don´t have personal data enough to classify you.
Maybe you could attend evening classes to get smarter.
Anyway, I am not sure they would tell you what you should know but what they want you to know.
The US officially donates $10.00 and subrepticiously snatches
$50.00 from poor countries.
Read, man. Read foreign newspapers (can you???), read your own newspapers and think hard. Some of your people are decent people.

this is impossible