Brazzil

Nice text, i agree with you on this issue. But anyway you people from Sao Paulo probably didn't realise yet that the real criminals are the police.

More than half of our "police force" is involved with corruption, other crimes or is blatantly on the other side of the fight. Not something to blame them for, if you look at their salary.

Sure there are honest police men that really stand up for the country... and thats the only reason why i dont propose electing Marcola for presidence and giving Brazil a chance, because he is really serious about what he does, unlike some random Lula whats-his-name that is our current president.

Absolutely. Sao Puolo is far from been taken by Marcola and his
midget monkeys. With thius action of terror and disrrespect for innocent families they grew down. Brazil should worry for these criminosos to the point of loosing the real perspective of the problem. Please, do not missunderstand me. This is a serious matter and serious and inteligente measures must be taken to deal with the present Marcola and the like ones that me come down the road. What is more worrysome in the lack of imagination and decision making of the police and the state. How can you negotiate with the person that cut off a finger of your left hand and wants to cut to cut off your the whole? The governor of Sao Paulo just gave in. Now, he needs to give up the govenorship. He is not up to the job. El pueblo de Sao Paulo deserves better.
This is just one of the problems Brazilians need to take care of. Anther one is to take care of parazites in the senado who spent months investigating with not concrete results., instead to protecting their own kind with millions in las cuecasor in Switzwrland, they should look for solution to the problems of the pais.

The government still imports a majority of all narcotics into the US via the military, as has been done since the early seventies. On a smaller scale since the mid sixties. A major source of income for the North, Central and South American governments come from drug sales. The west is not alone in this game, but I’ll keep it simple for now. They have their hand in it all. Cocaine, heroin, cannabis… Whether you use, sell or choose not to let it into your life it still affects you in a big way. It does not care about the color of your skin, your religious beliefs, your political views. It’s just pot, it doesn’t hurt any one. Spark it up! You are now doing exactly what they expect of you. They now have you completely under control.

With the help of drug gangs the governments are controlling your life. The final solution, Controlled Demolition.

Regards, an American/Brazilian/Porto Rican

Remember six of one, half dozen of the other

Making deals with organized crime to keep peace - sounds like the New York and Chicago story. Perhaps there are lessons to be learned when finally a few good US leaders (e.g. T. Roosevelt) bravely stepped up and reorganized the corrupt US law enforcement, paid them a decent salary, insitutionalized them and slowly began to dilute the organized crime strangleholds

However, they are still there to a degree in the US, as are crooked cops, and as a US resident, I see our law enforcement always still on that edge between 1st and 3rd World.

Brazil first and foremost needs to finally institutionalize their police and judiciary so they stay straight and learn how to defuse disorder in a respectful but very firm manner.

The next step is to break the Human Rights and Church yoke, as neither of these organizations truly work for human rights. Criminals break social contracts that we all agree to. In that, they lose their rights. They dont deserve to be tortured, but their disregard from our social contract earns them hard punishment, isolation, and tough measures. Again look to the US as an example of what not to do - we're so soft on criminals, that there is little fear of going to jail. There's more opportunities in the bighouse than in the streets. Prison must be something to fear, and we all need to stop cowering to lawyers, advocates, journalists and academics who bang on the Human Rights drum merely to forward their personal interests.

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"I see our law enforcement always still on that edge between 1st and 3rd World."

Ya know, people like you make me laugh. Always trying to be "politically correct" or say something so it doesn't hurt someones feeling.

As an american living in brazil for the last 8 years, and living in the U.S. for 40 before that, comparing the police force in the U.S. with the brazilian police force is not only inaccurate, but ignorant. They couldn't be more different in their professionalism and overall committment to their work. That comment is a true insult to american police that is unquestionably undeserved.

You don't have normal traffic cops that ask for bribes 80% of the time to let you get out of a ticket. You don't have cops that tend to "look the other way" the majority of the time when a law is broken. You normally don't have police in the U.S. that are doing business, hand in hand, with the very thieves they're hired to put in jail....this happens in brazil a LARGE percentage of the time.

Why don't you look at some of the surveys that have been taken over the last week.....a LARGE percentage of brazilians, in particular Paulistas, are MORE afraid of the police than of criminals!!!

I'll be willing to bet if you've ever been to brazil, its never been more than a week or two in some tourist area.

The ignorance of some of you people is truly impressive.

YEAH - the US Federal Government reserves the right to blackmail, kill indiscriminately, tap phones, monitor computers, look the other way at corporate criminal behavior and do business with truly criminal companies like Halliburton/KBR (now building domestic internment camps for your pleasure) and the Carlyle Group - All companies that make Sao Paulo style crime look tame by comparison. f**k Halliburton bills the government in one week what an entire drug cartel in Brazil makes in a year! In addition the US Federal Government reserves the right to invade sovereign countries, assassinate world leaders and arrange/stage coups. Yes we leave the big stuff to the Federal Gov. in the USA. They get the job done!!

thank god the big stuff is left up to them, cause if it was left up to brazilians they would've already destroyed the planet by now.

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"In addition the US Federal Government reserves the right to invade sovereign countries"

Well any country reserves that right s**t for brains, if they're security is threatened.

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"tap phones"

who's tapping phones?? There is a difference between a phone being tapped and numbers that have been dialed are being recorded to detect a pattern.

Tapping is when actualy conversations have been listened to....and that has not happened. Unless you know something the rest of us don't....LOL. f**king moron.

the american government have written the book on terror, it might not happen on street level on daily bases but the only way they could stay the super power and as rich as they are is because they are the cause of death and misery in so many other countries.
things are not as peachy as you say in america and to find ignorance try looking in the mirror.

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"YEAH - the US Federal Government reserves the right to blackmail, kill indiscriminately, tap phones, monitor computers, look the other way at corporate criminal behavior and do business with truly criminal companies like Halliburton/KBR (now building domestic internment camps for your pleasure) and the Carlyle Group - All companies that make Sao Paulo style crime look tame by comparison. f**k Halliburton bills the government in one week what an entire drug cartel in Brazil makes in a year! In addition the US Federal Government reserves the right to invade sovereign countries, assassinate world leaders and arrange/stage coups. Yes we leave the big stuff to the Federal Gov. in the USA. They get the job done!!"


Colombian Drug Lord Arrested in Brazil Managed Empire from São Paulo


http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/6420/53/


Yep, ranking him right up there with pablo escobar. Has lived in sao paulo for the last 3 years!! Even owned an art gallery!!

Naturally this operation was driven and spear-headed by the DEA, left up to the corrupt latin american countries they can't do something like this without "big brother" looking over their shoulder, everyone would have their hand out and to hell with justice or the millions he poisons...as long as we get PAID.

Funny how many criminals flee their countries and decide to come to brazil.....wonder why that is?

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"the american government have written the book on terror, it might not happen on street level on daily bases but the only way they could stay the super power and as rich as they are is because they are the cause of death and misery in so many other countries.
things are not as peachy as you say in america and to find ignorance try looking in the mirror."

Ya know what, you may be right that the U.S. MAY be a reason why many countries have problems...but you know what?? For the mostpart, the U.S. takes care of its own!!! And isn't that what a governments supposed to do??

Look at the brazilian governement...they f**k their own people at every turn and opportunity!

we all must assume that the earth is one state and not only try to take care of your own, who is your own anyways...these people in all these different countries are not human, is that what you think?
american government is the biggest bully out there right now and nobody likes bullies, ask anyone in any country, ive been around and i can see that every other country is being f**ked over by american ,,,,
by the way americans dont take care of their own, if you belive that you re blind the only thing they are protecting is money and power
stay human

how in the world can one gov't., or several, have everyones best interest at heart, when you have thieving governments like the one that exists here in brazil?? And naturally, brazil is not the only one, there are many that are nearly as bad, and even a couple worse, but the brazilian gov't. ranks right up there with the worst of them on the planet in corruption, and what makes it worse is that in this country you literally have people that die from malnutrition, dehydration, etc. When a brazilian politician steals, and it happens everyday, he's literally killing his own people.

Well any country reserves that right s**t for brains, if they're security is threatened.

The US and a handful of other countries are the only ones that can do so s**t For Brains . . . When was the last time you think India feared invasion by Bangladesh. Behold Brazzil.com readers - A Dumya fan and true American idiot. He actually still believes that Iraq threatened our safety with those big, bad weapons of mass destruction. f**king idiot!!!

no dickwad, I'm no dubwa fan, lol. I didn't vote for him in either election, so stick your assumptions up your ass.

The U.S. and a "handful" of other countries?? You mean the countries with militaries huh numbnutz??? Hmmmm, there's only 100+ of those!!!

Tapping is when actualy conversations have been listened to....and that has not happened. Unless you know something the rest of us don't....LOL. f**king moron.

Behold another f**king American idiot who doesn't actually know that they have listened in on conversations. You honestly never heard of ECHELON? They have been filtering most calls for over 20 years and emails since they existed. Who is the real f**king gullible American retard here? You are the reason Americans are seen as naive and ignorant everywhere they go. He honestly doesn't think that they have actually listened to anyone's conversations - love the naivete f**khead!! Bet you voted for Bush didn't you s**thead!! Thanks to people like you the US is the most hated country on earth. a*****e!!

yes its sad to see a country like brazil , so rich in resources with so much diversity to be in so much misary.
your culure is amazing , your hearts are full of music and joy, what you need to forget is the AMERICAN way of life,,,
when greed takes over we stop to listen to the hearth,
the only way we can survive ourselves is to STAY HUMAN

The U.S. and a "handful" of other countries?? You mean the countries with militaries huh numbnutz??? Hmmmm, there's only 100+ of those!!!

Yeah and all of those 100+ can muster the resources to take their military half-way around the world to invade a country like - oh let's say Iraq? Eh s**thead? Do you think? Drrrrr. *wipes the spittle off his chin*

Don't believe this f**khead - you KNOW he voted for Bush!! LOL!!

LOL...what a f**king idiot!! Bud, the last election I didnt even vote, first time ever, because I didnt like either of those losers, and in 2000 I voted for Gore. Yet I'm not bleeding heart f**king liberal like yourself....let's all sing "We are the World" and then let everyone f**k the U.S. 7 ways from Sunday...kinda like the illegals are doing right now to the U.S.

Thank god the U.S. isn't left up to pussies like you or we'd be another Canada at best.

And to the amazing idiot who posts, "ohhh you lovely brazilians with your beautiful culture and hearts filled with music", LMAO!!! For the love of christ man, wake up a spit!!! Have you heard of Maluf?? Lovely man that guy, stole 480 million dollars of public money! Spent 30 DAYS in jail! Fernando Collar....240 MILLION dollars!! Resigned from the presidency...ya know where he lives now??? MIAMI!!!! He knows where the f**k to live and where not to! A little scam called MENSALÕA....heard of that one??? It's recent...LOL!! Lovely people these brazilians...please, come here, make sure to bring a million dollars or so with you.....they'll f**k you six ways from saturday and you'll be calling the american embassy to put you on a military plane back home because they'll have even taken your shirt!!! LOL!

I heard those lovely people were at it again in Sao Paulo earlier this week???

Bunch of sweethearts those brasilieros!!!

I remember reading books that talked about a high crime in the USA during the early parts of the 20th century. What did the federal government do, it created a national witness protection program. Crime fell by some 50 percent! The police in Brazil needs to be better paid, but that wont resolve crime. Sao Paulo has been slowly increasing pay but that has not helped, although crime in the city of Sao Paulo has fallen 50 percent! They need more and better training and I believe the name Military Police needs an overhaul. Yes, the police needs better weapons and training but the reorganization of the police force is a must. Too many times they enter in tough situations and begin shooting innocent people. This creates a mentality of police is the judge and jury. Of course, the entire judicial system is slow but thats because Brazil has 10,000 judges for a country of 182 million! Also, prisons are packed. So what does the middle-class say, shoot the prisoners instead of saying build more jails, equip the jails with books, and force them to finish their education. Also by creating more cells, you can reduce overcrowding and finally begin to rebuild the penal structure. The RDD is a excellent system and should be replicated in more areas throughout the country. Brazil needs to build more maximum security jails in the state of Sao Paulo since most of the criminals are from there and most of the crime occurs in that state, mostly because 25 percent of all Brazilians live there.
Who has the courage to improve the entire judicial code? I don't know but the Congress needs to stop adopting stop gap measures only after a crisis, and needs to finally revampt the entire police/judicial system even if the police unions, senators or powerful internal forces resist. People are tired of the status quo yet I love and will never leave Sao Paulo !

Thank god the U.S. isn't left up to pussies like you or we'd be another Canada at best.

Like Canada - If only . . . It's because it's [America] left up to f**king ignorant s**theads like you that it's sinking like the Titanic . .

You're a big tough guy here on Brazzil.com but we know you shut the f**k up and look down when you're walking around in the city. I bet you would cry like a little bitch the first time someone actually overheard you talking about Brazil like that and threatened to crush your empty skull for you. Look at the strong words of the real pussy who tells Brazilians what a wonderful country it is to their faces then criticizes it here where he doesn't have to share who he is. You're the f**king pussy!!! Probably always have been too!

Because of a MALUFs and marcolas brazilians can't be decent people? open you r heart there and try to see the world with other eyes, maybe it make your life more fulfilling? Man, really, I need more friends but you? I know why I feel angry with the rednecks but why you feel that way toward brasilians btw? they did somthing personally to you or your people? b/c with me rednecks do but with you? it's b/c of the visas? that is just some paint on your finger, no more.




"thank god the big stuff is left up to them, cause if it was left up to brazilians they would've already destroyed the planet by now"

que idiota! these idiotic comments make me laugh. Valeu!

...he already has a cabinet post : his cell with mobile phones !
...S.P. police, government already negotatited in the recent past with the PCC.
...They even agreed and accepted the requests made by the PCC ! strange isnt it, to deal and negotiate with criminals ?
Unheard of in a civilized nation !

... and they re-negotiated again this time. Accepting to negoatiate means that you have no other way, but it also shows how weak your government and police are !
And criminals know and understand this. They just made your government put a knee down. Criminals are smiling and laughing to see how weak you are.

They are the winners !

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"I bet you would cry like a little bitch the first time someone actually overheard you talking about Brazil like that and threatened to crush your empty skull for you."

Really? Just yesterday I was talking to a high-ranking member in my state for the PT party....and let him have the same s**t that I've said here. And of course he started in on the "U.S. thinks they're the worlds police". You think I'm afraid to voice my opinion?? I pay taxes in this m'fer, absurd taxes by the way, and employ numerous brazilians, as well as have family, brazilian. I bitch about the U.S. when I think it's appropriate, you think I'm not going to bitch about brazil just because I wasn't born here? Or you think I'm some kind of internet pussy?? LOL!!

Just by you making that statement obviously you are that very type of pussy. I don't have time for idiots like yourself who's never put his ass, nor money, on the line for anything. Go back to school boy or read some books and THINK you know how the real world works from reading about it.

I tell it to 'em just how it is, and if they don't like


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""thank god the big stuff is left up to them, cause if it was left up to brazilians they would've already destroyed the planet by now"

que idiota! these idiotic comments make me laugh. Valeu!"

Really?? Well, just last year your government allowed a piece of the amazon to be destroyed the size of the state of Massachusetts, you guys will f**k that up in no time flat.

But there was never 200'000 SP armed men trying to control the criminals !

deaths and collateral damage than what these criminals did !

really...a car bomb??? They only torched 100 buses for the love of god!

yes i think those brasileros are cool ant the brasileras are even sweeter,, out of 20 milion people only a hand full are causing all this s**t,
and yes i do live in canada and love it here , who wouldnt want to live in a peace full country like this...the only treat is comming from the state side and the terror they cause to everyone...because in caos there is profit and nobody knows that better than united state and the so called great britain.
love and peace
stay human

stay human dude, peace, love, togetherness.

"We are the world, we are the children, we are the ones to make a brighter day so let's start givin'

....for the love of god man, you've never even been to brazil....LOL. Go stick your dick in a maple tree.

many times ive been to brass to bom retiro, and to paulista ave, ive styed for months in praca du ripublica, i walked the carnaval in salvador rio, and been to many many smaller town sorouning these cities, i live in canada but i am iranian ,,, ive live through war , ive seen my friends loosing thier lives,,, i know what greed has done to my country , i know the price of living in a oil rich country, ive seen the best and the worst of the human nature and choose to stay human....thats the only way in my opinion

oh yeah i forgot to mention im getting married to a beautifull paulista.....
thank you brazil

well good for you, but it would be nice if you would stop pidgeon-holing 300,000,000 people by some stupid actions by their president or gov't.

Should we assume that you're a confrontational agressor because the current leader of Iran is snubbing his nose at the U.N. and the international community while stating he'll continue to enrich high-grade plutonium and threaten to nuke Israel?

i can only assume that you are american....as the history proves the only people in the world so far that actually used the nuclear weapons and killed countless numbers of people are americans so dont even go there ....
the iranian government is an american pupet and have been for all of my life anyways. what ever they decide to do will profit the united state im sure of it....

in case you weren't aware, they're in bed with the chinese and russians now.

I tell it to 'em just how it is, and if they don't like

Uh I doubt it idiota! Some peopole in my neighborhood will have killed your f**king stupid ass allready pentelho! If I see you I will do it myself!! lol!

really? Well, believe it son! And these internet threats are so scary....if you saw me, you'd s**t your pants.

I bet he would s**t himself too. Probably piss himself with laughter while he was at it!! Grrrrrr Tough Guy!!! Don't worry about that dickhead - he just has a dirty Harry complex. He's a HUGE PUSSY - you can bet on it!!

I didn't start the juvenile internet threat horses**t...give me a break!

typical brazilian, threaten to kill someone because another talks about the problems in brazil....god forbid!! WTF is that?

Everybody shut the f**k up with all these meaningless threats, because anyways if you met me outside of the electronic world I'm confident I wouldn't hear a peep from you. And if I do hear any slander brought forth about this post, or me, or any of my kinfolk, you can rest assured that your ass will be hexed. That's right, I'll get VOO-DOO on ya.

Separately, the supposed Iranian who lives in Canada should learn better english, he sounds like a complete "hoser."

Someone’s throwing a tantrum. You all make my job so much easer. You will all perish and your souls will belong to me.

typical brazilian, threaten to kill someone because another talks about the problems in brazil....god forbid!! WTF is that?

Yeah you Americans would be well served to shut your f**king mouths and concentrate on the steady deterioration of your own civil liberties, basic freedoms and tanking economy. You've got plenty to worry about so why not piss off and go somewhere else and add something constructive about your own hideously grotesque fascist country. WTF is that? Yeah god forbid you actually address your own f**king problems in the US. Idiot!

Everybody shut the f**k up with all these meaningless threats, because anyways if you met me outside of the electronic world I'm confident I wouldn't hear a peep from you. And if I do hear any slander brought forth about this post, or me, or any of my kinfolk, you can rest assured that your ass will be hexed. That's right, I'll get VOO-DOO on ya.


I'll go on and risk the Voodoo and hazard a guess that you are actually one of the biggest pussies around. Probably flex in the mirror after getting pumped with 5 kilo barbells . . . Really -hard guys never have to broadcast the fact that they are bad motherf**kers. Now go hit the treadmill bad-ass!!

well basically, everyone on the planet takes their shots at the U.S., and so do most americans...it's no bid deal, we're used to bitching about our government and situations that exist. If one doesn't at least make his voice heard, he has no right to complain later. Americans are accustomed to this, by any and all.

But....let a foreigner, a "non-brazilian", talk about the REAL problems that exist here, and how can one do that without being truthful? And the truth in brazil is not pleasant. And then brazilians get angry and as the one idiot above remarked, "people in my neighborhood would kill you"??? Seriously, what is that? Sounds like many in the brazilian population have many of the same attitudes they did in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia....f**king ridiculous some of you people.

"Sounds like many in the brazilian population have many of the same attitudes they did in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia....f**king ridiculous some of you people."

Couldn't have said it better. How do some of these people expect their situation to get any better if they're too blinded by pride to cope with reality?

"Regards, an American/Brazilian/Porto Rican"

Bulls**t, no Boricua writes "Porto Rico"!

"american government is the biggest bully out there right now and nobody likes bullies, ask anyone in any country, ive been around and i can see that every other country is being f**ked over by american ,,,, "

Moron you are! My next s**t will be a gold brick if you've even seen much of Brasil, much less the world you stupid f**king liar.

My grandmother came here (Florianópolis) after being rescued from Buchenwald concentration camp by the US army - we know Americans and what they stand for.

Viva America!

Team America, f**k yeah!

OK...OK....it seems that everyone has something negative to say about each other but the point is the brazilian people are the only ones to blame.We (brazilians)think we are soooo smart but we were able to elect an illiterate incompetent corrupt clown (IICC) for president.
Since the discovery by the Portuguese Brazil is being screwed by crooked politicians and they are uncapable of doing anything about it.
Poor Brazil....

Predicting the demise of the United States of America is practiced all across Latin America, as it has been for years, and is not only as venerable as predicting the success of Brazil, it is as uncannily accurate.

You guys catch everything. I like that. I like to throw in a little something to see if it gets corrected. Seriously! Correct, Correct, Correct! Get an actual clue as to what’s going on. The drug/street gangs and the governments are f**king with you, and you just put up with it. Learn how to fight both physically and mentally. Call me a poser & liar. Even call me a loser. I’ll never let governments or gangs f**k with me.

""Even call me a loser. I’ll never let governments or gangs f**k with me.""

You'll stop them how? By words like a f**king arab.

Does anyone ever make intelligent, constructive comments on this site?

"My grandmother came here (Florianópolis) after being rescued from Buchenwald concentration camp by the US army - we know Americans and what they stand for. "



the white house is being manipulated by the likes of your grand mother, of course you would say that...what Hitler did to you was bad but you are doing the same to your own brothers in Israel. white house needs a strong foot hole in the middle east to protect its investments and thats where you coming. without oil they would leave you guys there to fend for yourselves in a heartbeat.

drugs are one of the oldest way a government can control the population, keep everybody hi and people wont try to start a revolution. the united state is the master of this just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame.

the only time there is a problem like it is now in Sao Paulo is when the government and the gang leaders don't see eye to eye about money and power. these gangs are the government agents and do their dirty works for them.

and now that the police are under attack the only one that will protect the police and back them up is the public ,,,so they put the fear o in public to fill the hole they dug for themselves which brings us back to the point of this discussion in the first place..
stay human, wake up and educate yourselves

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I'm no huge fan of the US but I think you better revise this statement . . We all know this isn't true.

"just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame."

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"the united state is the master of this just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame."

What ignorance!!!! You obviously have never seen, nor been to, the favelas!!! Even ANY brazilian will readily admit that the reality of the favelas doesn't even come close to existing in the U.S.

What an idiotic remark!

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"I'm no huge fan of the US but I think you better revise this statement . . We all know this isn't true.

"just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame."



LOL..this is EXACTLY the type of ignorance that you not only experience on this site, but in brazil!!

Great statement...keep 'em coming, you only make it easier to prove our point!

would love to see you take the wrong way in new york or LA , puts the favelas to shame because us has so much more to protect and serve wich they dont

Anti-semites are well divorced from the truth - I don't know why so many of them are also anti-American unless there is some kind of syndrome involving both pathologies.

I am a Jewish Brazilian who is American educated (Univ. of California Santa Barbara undergrad, UC Los Angeles grad school) and am appalled by the ignorance of posters here about Jews, the US and even BRAZIL!
I know of no instance where Brazil is served by bashing the US, and this s**t about the Jews doing this and that is just plain stupid.

The claim "just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame." is to be condemned not only for its poor English but for the utter inanity which renders suspect all this putz's claims.

VERY FUNNY TEXT


THE GUY IS ABLE WALK AROUND THE CITY, GI BACK HOME,WATCH SOME TV,MAYBE GOT SOME WINE.

PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT BAD TIME OR CIVIL WAR MEANS

A CITY OF 20 MILLLION PEOPLE ,130 PEOPLE DIED AND THEY GO CRAZY THNKING IS THE ARMAGEDON



REMEMBER, PEOPLE WHERE INSIDE THEIR HOUSES,WATCHING TV A PROBLEM EATING SOME NICE FIOOD

and its not Anti-Semitism more like observation and disappointment in humanity, I like Jews as much as I like Moslems, your religion has no effect on me its who you are personally.
and yes I am still trying to learn English and also Portuguese so please pardon my language dear professor.

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"would love to see you take the wrong way in new york or LA , puts the favelas to shame because us has so much more to protect and serve wich they dont"


What???

Are you that ignorant?? Do you think that I haven't been to some of the worst parts of the U.S.???

And I've been in brazil for nearly 10 years....they are two different REALITIES.....completely different!

where you in new orleans a few months ago also? we saw how united states protected its citizens there didnt we...

i took a wrong turn in salvador carnaval and entend the favela....had to run a few blocks but you know im still here

LOL...a hurricane, the worst in american history, a natural disaster, a little different would you say professor??

Their response has been something different, inexcusable, and because of that FEMA is now being completely overhauled. But are you actually going to try and use a natural disaster as an excuse??

Tell me, what do you think Rio de Janeiro would be like, and the aftermath, if they just had a normal hurricane that hits the southeastern U.S. coast every year??

Be honest!

re - "its not Anti-Semitism more like observation and disappointment in humanity"

"drugs are one of the oldest way a government can control the population, keep everybody hi and people wont try to start a revolution. the united state is the master of this just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame."

IN response I said this:

"I'm no huge fan of the US but I think you better revise this statement . . We all know this isn't true."

- meaning that the favelas in Brazil are much, much worse than any slum in America. The poster above was stating the contrary.

Did you bother to read what this quote related to you dumb little chimp? Obviously not! I am usually given to defending Brazil and its people but so many of you really are f**king mentally deficient.

Here is what your f**king retarded ass said:

"What ignorance!!!! You obviously have never seen, nor been to, the favelas!!! Even ANY brazilian will readily admit that the reality of the favelas doesn't even come close to existing in the U.S.

What an idiotic remark!"

Who's the idiot here? Goddam you people really are stupid. I give up - there is no hope for that country!! f**kING IDIOTS!!!!! Makes one just want to bang their head against the wall . . .

What a Canadian joke - Canada has the freedom to be pussified because the US and UK provide for her defence.
She is like a pesky brat that people leave alone because her big sister is the toughest one on the block and her mom still kicks ass. She'd be screwed without them.
The good news is that the west of Canada is full of 'Americans' that are Canadian nationals.

So sad - Canada kicked ass in WWII, then practically disarmed.

"She'd be screwed without them."

She'd be 'Nova Kamchatka'!

And Brasil would be part of the Japanese Empire!

dude, you need to chill out, I'm american, and I'm the one who posted

"What ignorance!!!! You obviously have never seen, nor been to, the favelas!!! Even ANY brazilian will readily admit that the reality of the favelas doesn't even come close to existing in the U.S."

In response to the statement..

"the united state is the master of this just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame."


Different people posting those remarks my man...read it again.

Neither the UK or US would ever let anything happen to Canada from abroad.

Nobody loves Brazil the way they love Canada - what have we not done or done wrong?

jesus man, don't think you could expect the U.S. gov't. or americans to love brazil as they do canada, or england. Afterall, look how combative the brazilian gov't has been towards the U.S. at every opportunity since the Lula administration.

The one million illegals doesn't help matters either.

To the Americans and Brits, Canadians are not really foreign - but we are more unique than the Anglo-Saxons, who basically have a shared culture across a number of political units - culturally there is more difference between a Bahian and a Santa Catarinian then between a Canadian and an Aussie.
We need to take care of ourselves and learn to be an adult culture without losing that uniqueness, then it won't matter who loves us because we'll love ourselves.

What a Canadian joke - Canada has the freedom to be pussified because the US and UK provide for her defence.



oh yeah eskimos are going to attack us anyday now,, the only attack if any is going to be from the us side and the s**t they and the british are causing in the world . if you where an adult you would not see the need to use profanity so much.
wake up

the U.S. would never attack canada, lol. They'll do just as big brother tells them, and they know that, it's why many canadians dont like the U.S., they're well aware that they don't have much choice.

At least you have to give them credit for accepting reality.

well do you see any canadians in iraq?? not because for once they took a stance againts injustice...this time they said no to the big brother and i hope the have the curage to do it again in the future..
yes and ive seen many americans traveling the brazil and argentina with canadian flags on their bag packs .... i wonder why that is...huh?

I've never seen it, they're certainly not in mass.

And don't flatter yourself, the U.S. doesn't needs canada's military presence....if that's what you would call it, LOL.

im against all military presence any where...to.think for a country to train its youth to kill other youth... actually pick up a gun and kill another human being. how sad the world is..
yes i am proud to live in canada,
imagine the world with out borders imagine the world with out weapons imbrasing each others culture and colors and music and food...not killing not seperating...
if you think im wrong then listen to some bob marley or some jon lenon,,
wake up and educate yourself

imagine all the people, imagine if you can....

we are the world...we are the children....


Jesus man, wake up and spit!

well do you see any canadians in iraq?? not because for once they took an inventory and their testes were missing . . .

""ive seen many americans traveling the brazil and argentina with canadian flags on their bag packs""
And I saw crop circles. and fairies I saw. and ET smoking a bong with the little mermaid!

yeah, we americans really display the flags of other countries in mass(roll eyes).....kinda like it was here in brazil 4-5 years ago, you couldn't go anywhere without seeing gangs of women with american flags on the purses, jeans, shirts, jackets, whatever. 4-6 years ago you saw people in brazil wearing american flags MUCH more often than they wore the brazilian flag.....true story.

""ive seen many americans traveling the brazil and argentina with canadian flags on their bag packs""
And I saw crop circles. and fairies I saw. and ET smoking a bong with the little mermaid!

well do you see any canadians in iraq?? not because for once they took an inventory and their testes were missing . . .

"Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise."

that's why canada is a "back seat" country, they're not up to leading.

funny last time i was there osamas pictures where flying everywhere...lol

"Who's the idiot here? Goddam you people really are stupid. I give up - there is no hope for that country!! f**kING IDIOTS!!!!! Makes one just want to bang their head against the wall . . ."

relax, everybody has a point of view based on a very personal experience. it can be really hard to understand someone next door, much more a gringo. I'm not saying favelas are ok, but in Bra favelados can even have an ok life b/c they are the weakest of the worldwild system and do what they can to survive, so a lot of times those people are happy ones, sometimes have cable tv, which if you see their situation, as a brazilian you can't help but smile, they are friendly, they dance in the sambas schools and in the long famous Carnival. You know, it is VERY hard to transmit a whole lifetime experience and culture. People study a lot about cross-cultural experiences.

quote:

"as a brazilian you can't help but smile, they are friendly,"

I wouldn't blanketly describe them as friendly. Most favelas are a dangerous place, and certainly not a place for a gringo to take a "cultural tour". People get murdered in the favelas in brazil everyday.

Have you seen the documentary "Falcão, meninos do trafico"?? A sad and realistic look at the brutal and dangerous life for many in the favelas, for kids as young as 8-9 years old.

i mean how they can have cable tv and etc.? drug traffic and other stuff. they didn't created what exist, they do what they can to survive. I don't defend drug dealers, but see mine it's a different set of thoghts? if they had work and all and people were not hungrily demanding drugs they would probably doing something else?

well, yes, favelas are not to be taken to a tour. reminiscences of one remains in my neighborhood and I meet people who live there now and them on the street, street market and that's what i see. No one is saying to you to go there and search for peers.

children are the weakest and saddest part of the story.
ever tried to understand the world in a more uncorporeal way? I mean spiritually? it can be a long walk but adds new challenges.tkc. i'm tired of fighting with the rednecks

funny how you label anyone that doesn't agree with you "rednecks". Or is that just your name for americans?

I've responded here a couple times, each time with respect, I guess I should start labeling you a "monkey"??

A palavra "redneck" e giria = "bem caipira", o "peón", o "boiadeiro", o "cabloco", com um pouco de "machão".

well lets see, what is the real problem with the favelas,,,can somebody explain to me where so these people come from and why they are there?
could it be that most of them are African descendent or of native Brazilian descent?
is slavery still alive in brazil.. well I would say yes but the problem is that the number of these slaves are increasing everyday and they are gaining power, why should there be slaves in a free world? why should you be able to take advantage of other Brazilians like the way you have been since the conception of brazil,,, still in this day and age the lighter you are the better off you are in brazil and in united states for that matter.
here is a little food for thought, WASH YOUR OWN DAMN DISHES AND CLEAN YOUR OWN HOUSES , IF YOU NEED SOMEONE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT PAY A FAIR WAGE FOR IT SO THEY ALSO CAN ENJOY A GOOD LIFE. SHARE THE WEALTH AND LIVE IN PROSPERITY.
STAY HUMAN

quote:

"WASH YOUR OWN DAMN DISHES AND CLEAN YOUR OWN HOUSES , IF YOU NEED SOMEONE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT PAY A FAIR WAGE FOR IT SO THEY ALSO CAN ENJOY A GOOD LIFE. SHARE THE WEALTH AND LIVE IN PROSPERITY.
STAY HUMAN"

Now just to whom is that directed to?? I would certainly HOPE to brazilians!!

Because if you wash dishes or clean houses in brazil, you make 350 REAIS per MONTH....that's around 150 DOLLARS PER MONTH!!

As far as slavery...it does STILL actually exist in brazil...and is getting WORSE, not better. The state of Mato Grosso is the biggest culprit, but most of the north/northeast still have slaves!

Educated yourself before you show your ignorance!

Quote:

"well lets see, what is the real problem with the favelas,,,can somebody explain to me where so these people come from and why they are there?
could it be that most of them are African descendent or of native Brazilian descent?
is slavery still alive in brazil.. well I would say yes but the problem is that the number of these slaves are increasing everyday and they are gaining power, why should there be slaves in a free world? why should you be able to take advantage of other Brazilians like the way you have been since the conception of brazil,,, still in this day and age the lighter you are the better off you are in brazil and in united states for that matter.
here is a little food for thought, WASH YOUR OWN DAMN DISHES AND CLEAN YOUR OWN HOUSES , IF YOU NEED SOMEONE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT PAY A FAIR WAGE FOR IT SO THEY ALSO CAN ENJOY A GOOD LIFE. SHARE THE WEALTH AND LIVE IN PROSPERITY.
STAY HUMAN"


Reply:

First, I agree with your comment "share the wealth and live in prosperity." Generally I think it is agreed that anti-social behavior is exacerbated by large inequalities being present in a society. Its not so much "poverty" per se as the psychological impact of one being left out and rejected from the society at large - not feeling part of that nation as a member or accepted member.

However I don't think the PCC attack or the favelas themselves are simply a matter of "slavery still [being] alive in Brazil."

Marcola for instance is a very light brown skinned man. He is not the first Cheif of a Brazilian favela gang to be light skin, infact the recent death of one of Rio's favela gang Cheif's, shows in pictures he was light skinned and had fairly straight hair like a Latino. - In the United States, it is doubtful either one of those figures would have climbed the ranks to have been a Cheif in the Black gangs. However both would have had upward mobility in the Latino gangs in the US such as the Latin Kings or Spanish Cobras.

On sciencedaily.com, they give a encyclopedic look into "self-esteem", per wikipedia online free encycolpedia. I think it may have some revelance into this issue or any issue of gangs and violent criminals. While without a doubt some gang bangers have low self-esteem, from sciencedialy.com point of glimpse, we can see that the greater reality is that *most* gang members and violent criminals have *high self-esteem.* They actually feel they are *better than most everyone else.* But need to prove this through domination of others - their self-esteem is balanced or given value in how well and great they dominate others.

In the contents you can look at number 5 under the Bullying and violent crimes, in the subject of self-esteem, in the link I provide below.

I would suspect that sense most violent criminals of the gang banging or orginized crime type (not serial killers or people that murder in passion) feel that they are better than others, and that everyone else in the world is here to serve them and or confirm their greatness - the greatest punishment you could do to them is not to kill them, but rather to regress their social status in life e.g. by life confined in prison with very limited luxury and sexual recourse, to castrating them, or humiliations through death such as "burning at the stake." Such things can send a psychological shock wave through others who would otherwise glamorize them and their social systems of domination by brutality. In other words, cut the head off the snake and watch the body wither and die.

Just my opinion.

www.sciencedaily.com/encyclopedia/Self-esteem

Now just to whom is that directed to?? I would certainly HOPE to brazilians!!

Because if you wash dishes or clean houses in brazil, you make 350 REAIS per MONTH....that's around 150 DOLLARS PER MONTH!!

As far as slavery...it does STILL actually exist in brazil...and is getting WORSE, not better. The state of Mato Grosso is the biggest culprit, but most of the north/northeast still have slaves!

Educated yourself before you show your ignorance!


actually you just repeated what i said exactly..that was my point

that was directed to brazilians but i dont see any difference with the treatment of mexicans in us...so same goes to you americans wash your own damn dishes and pay a fair wage if you cant

"Because if you wash dishes or clean houses in brazil, you make 350 REAIS per MONTH....that's around 150 DOLLARS PER MONTH!!

As far as slavery...it does STILL actually exist in brazil...and is getting WORSE, not better. The state of Mato Grosso is the biggest culprit, but most of the north/northeast still have slaves!

Educated yourself before you show your ignorance"

Just for your knowledge, read some time ago in the nyt over the illegals who are not accepted in hospitals anymore. Then there was the story of this 40 something chinese man, a waiter in chinatown, who lived in an apt sharing a room with other men, i'm not sure how long he had lived in us but i'm quite sure it was like kind 10 year time and unfortunately died.I don't have maids b/c if I want to have them then i have to be fair with them and they are veery expensive in Brail with all the benefits. I don't agree things are the other way in bra or else where.chega

Marcola has received training from the MST (Movimento dos Sem Terra) which is the same organization that Lula supports and is so friendly with.For those of you that do not know MST is a bunch of s**theads that think they have the right to steal private property in Brazil.

Poor Brazil...

Marcola for president!!!
Marcola would feel at home with Lula and his crooked party members.
Go Marcola, go!

"You'll stop them how? By words like a f**king arab."

Hardly! You’re making no sense at all. Suggesting people take a look at their lives? How some of their recreational activities empower the very gangs/governments that keep them at the level of poverty they are trying to escape? By suggesting that one shun alcohol, drugs, and tobacco in order to get a clearer picture as to what’s really going on? This is your idea of words like an Arab? I have no association with Islam, Christianity, Judaism, or any religion. Their just forms of government. I’ve read the books on these and many other religions. Funny thing about fiction, it’s just that fiction.

How will I stop them? By not allowing them to poison me with their fictitious beliefs. By keeping their poisons out of my body. By speaking up against them. By questioning them. By keeping my mind and body strong, fore when the true revolutions do happen I will be ready.

Just another loser winning the battle for humanity

Wow, I just entered this thread by accident and am really enjoying the read but it's been getting out of hand. I guess you guys enjoy putting one another down or else you wouldn't come back to read what the other said and then respond again and again.

I don't think any of you are stupid, idiot, dickhead,a*****es based on your comments...They're all valid. Some are missing inforamtion, but that's normal. We'll never know what politicians have in store for us and we'll never really know what they're doing because the media can't cover it all, but we can't blame each other for being ignorant when we oursleves don't know hald the story.

I love Brasil, it's a shame that it's a country that has suffered so much and has never been able to be the kind of country it can be. There are many problems with the way Brazil is goverened, of course, and that has a lot to do with the fact that there's a long history of dishonesty amongst it's leaders.

I honestly believe that Brazil, like many other countries, is going to to go through a really bad period (one that is worse than anything it has ever seen) to see a positive light in the end. Iraq is going through it right now and who know's how it will end up or how many years it will take.

I think people get so accustomed to living life a certain way they just accept it for good or bad, and deal with debilitating factors as they come along as common day expereince.

Anyhow, the US is going to fall.I just wish people would stop killing each other, and that racism wasn't so prelevant amongst us.

This is all coming from a Brazilan, American, Polish and Portuguese decent Jewish girl!

I get to see the best and worst of both worlds after living in brazil for 15 years and here in NY for 6. It really does hurt to see you guys arguing over this sort of stuff...

I guess prejudice never ends...

for both the US nad Brazil. I wish we didn't see other people as the criminals that inffliceted bad behavior among others. It's funny because when i live here in the US i'm looked down on because I'm "latina" whatever that means, and in Brasil I'm looked down on because I'm American... go figure.

it's easy to criticize who and what we don't know or to just ignore it.

You argue that the presidents and governing parties do this, but then again you aren't any different from them.

quote:

"Just for your knowledge, read some time ago in the nyt over the illegals who are not accepted in hospitals anymore."

'bout time isn't it?? And only logical??

And I know for a fact that MANY hospitals in MANY cities still give medical services to illegals AND their children. One of the big problems is MANY of these ILLEGALS have came to the U.S., been there a while, and have had children. So they're children are american and recieve all the social services afforded to an american. Even though their parents gave birth to them there without even having the right to be there.

Janer Cristaldo with an excellent essay.
With pimps such as Lulubell running the nation there is little reason for hope.

TEN MILLION Paulistanos, if the criminals were to face the gun of the honest citizen they would find some other occupation than thief and murderer.

Spot on. We need to give the police the support to clean out the rubbish. All these pinko, bleeding hearts must live in some Alice of Wonderland world to imagine that feeling simpathy with drug dealers/addicts, thugs, and outright murderers will change them for the better. In my oppinion it's bullet in the head
time. We need a 'night of the long knives' and take all the gang leaders, their friends and supporters, all down at one and the same time. The police and intelligence services know exactly who they are, where they are to be found.
And I wonder what would happen if ten million Paulistanos decided to go out and get them, and save the police the trouble......?

quote: Spot on. We need to give the police the support to clean out the rubbish. All these pinko, bleeding hearts must live in some Alice of Wonderland world to imagine that feeling simpathy with drug dealers/addicts, thugs, and outright murderers will change them for the better. In my oppinion it's bullet in the head


Give a help to someone who needs it not b/c it's going to help you, but because it's going to change the world to the needy. But help others can change the world to you who help too. try yourself and confirm.

i say, make an example of him.lose him.

Yes make an example of Marcola. He thinks he1s safe in prison, let's show him he's not!

As for the comment about helping the poorer people: why not do both? let's get shot of the scum and help the worthy.

Cinco pessoas que não tinham nada a ver com o PCC foram assassinadas à queima-roupa por homens que se identificaram como "polícia!" Dafne Melo e
Tatiana Merlino
da Redação

Apesar do frio, Maurício Assis de Menezes veste apenas calça jeans e camisa azul. São 2 horas da madrugada de terça-feira, dia 16, no centro do Capão Redondo, Zona Sul de São Paulo. Acompanhado de seis colegas, o jovem de 28 anos abre o portão do bar de sua família - onde trabalha - para desenroscar as lâmpadas que iluminam a lanchonete, também familiar, que fica bem em frente ao bar.
Maurício mal tem tempo de chegar à barraca de lanches quando ouve: "Mãos na cabeça. Polícia!" Em seguida, começam os tiros. Sem expressar reação, enfileirados e de costas, todos são metralhados por homens vestidos de roupas escuras e gorro.
Horas antes, ainda na tarde de segunda-feira, mesmo após ouvir as notícias da televisão sobre os ataques da organização criminosa Primeiro Comando da Capital (PCC) em toda a cidade, a família Assis de Menezes não tem medo. Mantém o seu comércio aberto. Acreditam que como o alvo da polícia são os criminosos do PCC, não terão problemas. "A gente confiava na polícia", diz o pai de Maurício, com uma foto da família nas mãos.
Por volta das 23 horas, o que chama a atenção dos donos e freqüentadores do bar é um carro Fiat Palio preto com vidros fumé, que passa levando homens com capuzes. O carro passa vagarosamente em frente ao estabelecimento, junto com três carros da Polícia Civil, dois deles da marca Blazer. Marcos*, um dos irmãos de Maurício que também trabalha no bar da família, ao ver o carro suspeito, vira-se para os colegas e brinca: "Tá vendo esse carro preto aí atrás? É só para matar".
Portas fechadas
Assustados, os irmãos resolvem fechar o bar, mas os clientes, com medo, não tem coragem de ir embora e resolvem ficar mais tempo dentro do estabelecimento, já com as portas fechadas. Cerca de três horas depois, os clientes resolvem voltar para casa, e Maurício lembra que deixou as luzes da barraca acesa. Junto com ele, está Edson, funcionário da lanchonete, que trabalha há cinco anos para a família. Antes de ser assassinado, o jovem de 22 anos coloca em cima do balcão da barraca dois sanduíches que levaria para casa.
De dentro do bar, Marcos ouve "Mãos na cabeça. Polícia!". Olha pela janela e vê quatro homens. Desce correndo para dar assistência ao irmão e explicar que “são todos trabalhadores”, mas é tarde demais. Os tiros já haviam começado. “Acho que foram mais de 30”. Imediatamente, vai novamente à janela. Os agressores não estão mais lá.
Pedidos de ajuda
“Desci para procurar meu irmão. Todos meus amigos me pedindo ajuda: 'me ajuda, tá doendo demais'. O Edson dizia: 'tá doendo demais, não me deixa morrer'. Todo mundo gemendo. O Renato tentava levantar e pedia ajuda. Meu desespero era procurar meu irmão”, conta Marcos, que encontrou Maurício já morto atrás da barraca.
Marcos conta que em menos de dois minutos, 12 viaturas do 37º Batalhão da Polícia Militar chegaram no local. “Chegaram socorrendo e começaram a recolher as cápsulas. Foi tudo muito rápido”. De acordo com a lei, quando há vítimas fatais, a polícia não pode alterar a cena do crime, mas deve aguardar a chegada da polícia científica para dar início à perícia. O procedimento, entretanto, não foi observado neste caso. De acordo com Marcos, também não foi colhido nenhum depoimento no local.
Em conversa com o irmão de Maurício, os policiais militares disseram que o ataque poderia ter sido feito por criminosos do PCC. No entanto, as testemunhas duvidam. “Se eles eram do PCC, como o Palio preto ia estar logo atrás dos carros da Polícia Civil? A não ser que eles fossem loucos”, ironiza. Ainda de acordo com testemunhas, durante a chacina, o Palio preto estava estacionado próximo ao local do crime, e os carros da Polícia Civil um pouco mais à frente, mas na mesma rua.
Na manhã seguinte, policiais do Departamento de Homicídios e Proteção à Pessoa (DHPP) foram ao local do crime. Dos sete moradores que foram atacados, cinco morreram e dois sobreviveram. Questionados pela reportagem do Brasil de Fato, a assessoria de imprensa da Secretaria de Segurança Pública afirmou que a chacina ocorrida no Capão Redondo não entrou para as estatísticas ligadas às ações do PCC ou da polícia. Foi considerada como um crime comum na cidade de São Paulo. A secretaria disse informou que um inquérito foi aberto no DHPP, mas que, para resguardar as investigações, não se pode informar qual o seu andamento. A Secretaria ainda afirmou que em casos como este, testemunhas devem fazer a denúncia na Ouvidoria da Polícia.



Mortes sem explicações
Reportagem da Folha de S. Paulo, do dia 21, mostrou que os casos de mortes à bala diretamente relacionados com a onda de violência desencadeada pelo PCC na semana passada em todo o Estado foi de 138 mortes.
Somando-se o número médio de mortes que a capital e Grande São Paulo apresentam em 5 dias, 65 mortes, “sobrariam” 69 mortes a serem esclarecidas pelo governo. O fato, entretanto, entra em contradição com declarações feitas pelo comandante-geral da Polícia Militar de São Paulo, Elizeu Eclair Teixeira de Borges.
Segundo ele, a criminalidade rotineira, sem ligação com o PCC, havia caído cerca de 50% desde que começou a onda de atentados. Borges ainda afirmou que nenhum dos mortos em confronto com a polícia desde o início dos ataques do PCC era inocente.
De acordo com familiares, amigos e testemunhas, nenhuma das vítimas da chacina do Capão Redondo tinha relações com o PCC, nem passagem pela polícia. Os familiares de Maurício e testemunhas não souberam informar o nome completo das outras vítimas fatais. Três delas foram identificadas pelo primeiro nome e apelidos e outra foi identificada apenas pelo trabalho que fazia na região.
Os mortos
Maurício Assis de Menezes, caçula de quatro irmãos, era um rapaz pacato, quieto, de poucas palavras. Trabalhava no bar da família desde os 14 anos. Saía pouco e gostava de alugar filmes para assistir em casa. A última vez que saiu para passear, foi a um churrasco na casa da mãe da namorada, no domingo, Dia das Mães. A namorada, grávida de dois meses, perdeu o bebê no dia seguinte em que Maurício foi assassinado. A morte do rapaz chocou amigos e a vizinhança, “porque ele era o cara mais tranqüilo da região”, dizem testemunhas.
Edson, conhecido pelos amigos como “Jaca”, tinha 22 anos, era casado e tinha dois filhos. Trabalhava na lanchonete da família Menezes há cinco anos. Fanático por futebol, não perdia um jogo do seu time São Paulo Futebol Clube. Brincalhão, adorava dar apelido para todo mundo que passava pela barraca de lanches.
Renato, conhecido como “Brigadeiro”, tinha cerca de 35 anos. Trabalhava com artesanato e adorava ir à praia. Todos os anos, vendia flores durante o Dia das Mães. Tinha dois filhos. Um menino de 8 e uma garota de 19. Fã de teatro, sempre levava o filho a espetáculos gratuitos no centro da cidade.
Davi era pouco conhecido das testemunhas, que apenas sabem que o rapaz trabalhava como motoboy. As testemunhas não sabem o nome da quinta vítima. De acordo com elas, era um senhor de idade avançada que trabalhava como catador de material reciclável no bairro do Capão Redondo

This is already hapening in Gringo's Alice Wonderland

15 de ABRIL – No terceiro ano do governo de frente popular, o país esta submergindo numa onda de assassinatos e massacres. No dia 12 de fevereiro, uma religiosa norte-americana nacionalizada brasileira, Dorothy Stang, foi morta com três disparos numa emboscada acontecida em uma estrada de terra no municipio de Anapu (Pará). A freira Stang era agente da Comissão Pastoral da Terra na região. Poucas horas depois deste crime, na mesma localidade foi assassinado Adalberto Xavier Leal, ativista dos camponeses sem terra. Três dias após, foi morto a tiros o ex-presidente do Movimento do Trabalhadores Rurais Sem Terra em Parauapebas (Pará), Daniel Soares da Costa Filho. Logo, o 16 de fevereiro, durante a desocupação de um terreno ocupado na cidade de Goiânia, a Polícia Militar matou duas pessoas, ferindo uma vintena e detendo mais de 800 moradores do acampamento, organizado por um movimento dos sem teto. Agora, na noite de 31 de março, um grupo de extermínio policial lançou uma verdadeira caravana da morte na Baixada Fluminense no estado de Rio de Janeiro. Fuzilaram 30 pessoas, deixando um rio de sangue nos municípios de Nova Iguaçu e Queimados.

Que os autores destes crimes sejem pistoleiros contratados pelos fazendeiros, soldados obedecendo ordens dos oficiais ou escadrões da morte policiais não muda o fato que todos são atos de terrorismo burguês. E o responsável em última instancia é o governo capitalista presidido por Luis Inácio Lula da Silva e seu Partido dos Trabalhadores.

A chacina da Baixada foi a pior matança na história de Rio de Janeiro, ao superar largamente o número de mortos no massacre de Candelária, de julho de 1993, quando oito meninos e jóvens, moradores de rua, foram assassinados por PMs frente à igreja famosa no centro mesmo do Rio: também sobrepasou as mortes do massacre de Vigário Geral, acontecido em agosto do mesmo ano, quando foram mortos 21 trabalhadores e estudantes por uma banda de ao menos 40 polícias, como vingança pela morte de quatro PMS numa emboscada de traficantes de droga no dia anterior. A carnificina recente causou um asombro horripilante em toda a região. É o mesmo tipo de assassinatos que utilizam os PM para aterrorizar às favelas de Rio, supostamente para combater “criminosos” e as bandas do tráfico de drogas. Neste caso, embora, atacaram bairros populares de uma importante região industrial, atirando contra os moradores a esmo. É um retorno à época no começo da ditadura militar quando surgiram os “escadrões da morte” e a Baixada tinha fama de ser o “faroeste fluminense”. Foi um ataque contra os trabalhadores e os pobres cometido pelos cães de guarda do capital.

O maremoto de horror começou no dia 30 de março, quando alguns PMS mataram duas pessoas, as decapitaram vivas, e jogaram a cabeça de um deles dentra da sede da 15a Brigada da Polícia Militar em Duque de Caxias. Este ato teria sido uma revanche pela prisão de uns 15 policiais da região desde fevereiro, no marco de uma campanha (a Operação Navalha na Carne) contra a corrupção e os crimes da PM. O ato macabro foi filmado em um video de segurança de uma escola vizinha, e resultou prisão de oito PMS quinta-feira, dia 31, e logo na orgia de sangue naquela mesma noite. As primeiras vítimas foram dois ciclistas na Rodovia Dutra. Logo fuzilaram um cozinheiro que andava pela rua, e a dois trasvestis perto de um hotel. Passaram por um fliperrama, onde mataram nove pessoas. Após assassinarem um total de 18 pessoas em Nova Iguaçu, a maioria delas jóvens, practicamente ninguem com antecedente penal, foram a cidade vizinha de Queimados, onde passavam fusilando gente na rua, em outro bar, e em dois lava-jatos.

Foi um ato monstruoso de força e de impunidade. Os matadores nem sequer se preocuparam em esconder os rostos: viajavam à cara limpa.Vários deles já eram conhecidos pelos moradores como integrantes de grupos de extermínio.

Após os enterros coletivos sexta-feira, 1 de abril, no sábado os parentes e vizinhos marchavam com cartazes inscritos com os nomes das vítimas, atrás de uma faixa que reclamava: “Basta de massacres! O povo de Rio exige justiça.” Mas, quem faria justiça? O prefeito de Nova Iguaçu, Lindberg Farías do PT, esfregou as mãos, se queixando das “cenas inaceitáveis” e exigindo “uma linha de investigação que peça forças especiais, forças federais. Deve-se montar uma força-tarefa” (O Dia, 2 de abril). A governadora, Rosinha Garotinho do PMDB, lamentou “como mãe” os monstruos que quitaram a vida de crianças inocentes e reivindicou uma investigação rigorosa. O presidente Lula, com temor de que “seu governo possa ser visto no exterior como incapaz de conter e punir os chamados crimes contra os direitos humanos”, exigia de seus ministros um “acompanhamento permanente” das investigações. Desde Brasília anunciou que uns 400 a 600 homens da Força Nacional de Segurança seriam enviados à região.

Para quê? O governo estadual do Rio já destacou uns 250 PMs adicionais, entre eles forças do Batalhão de Choque, Batalhão de Operações Especiais (Bope), Grupamento Especial Tático Móvel (Getam), Grupamento Aeromarítimo (GAM) e Grupos de Ações Táticas (GATs). Montavam barragens nas ruas e faziam buscas domiciliares como sempre. Um crime da polícia militar? Então, enviam mais PMs para perseguir a população! A realidade é que todos estes corpos fomam parte de um só aparelho repressivo, o punho armado do estado capitalista, que proteje os intereses da alta burguesia que mora em suas fortalezas cercadas de grades e viaja em carros blindados. Os sanguinários PMs atuavam na Baixada como sempre atuam nas favelas do Rio: tem licença para matar, e o sabem. Diante deste crime do estado seria suicida pedir uma investigação ou a “proteção” do mesmo estado burguês. Não altera as coisas o fato de ser presidido neste momento pelo PT, que longe de dar proteção aos interesses dos trabalhadores e dos moradores dos bairros pobres, hoje é cão de estimação dos banqueiros e dos capitães da indústria brasileira e de seus amos imperialistas ianques.
Este massacre, como todos os anteriores, confirma uma vez mais o fato inegável do que é a polícia mesma, e não alguns indivíduos, que organizam os grupos de extermínio. Frente à onda de reprovação do novo crime bárbaro, os comandantes da PM do Rio intentaram inserir-se nos protestos para manifestar cinicamente seu “pesar”pelos mortos. Assim no sábado, 9 de abril, tropa uniformizada da Polícia Militar marchava atrás de uma faixa que proclamou, “O 24° BPM se solidariza com a comunidade de Queimados”. Parentes e amigos das vítimas ficaram tão desgostos pela participação dos policiais que saíram do protesto, particularmente quando houve um abraço frente ao Batalhão. Um deles “desistiu de participar da manifestação em Queimados porque não aceitava caminhar lado a lado com representantes da Polícia Militar” (“Relação em Crise”, Viva Favela, 9 de abril). Tem razão. A participação dos PMs no protesto foi um insulto, mas a mesma presença da Polícia Militar é o principal causante da carnificina.

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