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While Brazil Seems in a Civil War Congress Only Cares for Pay Hike PDF Print E-mail
2007 - February 2007
Written by Cristovam Buarque   
Monday, 19 February 2007 09:43

Brazilian congress in sessionNo one feels any nostalgia for the last congressional session. Mensalões (monthly payments for votes) and sanguessugas (ambulance purchase kickbacks) overtook the news coverage, as if our Congress were a TV police show. The new congressional session is also off to a bad start.

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Bravo!
written by AP, February 20, 2007
Kudos to you sir for your cyrstalline logic. We here in America have similar problems with regard to the gap between haves and have-nots. Although our minimum wage has more buying power than yours, it is absolutely ludicrous that officials with comfortable lives [U.S. and Brazil] clamor for more money while ostensibly representing the economically disadvataged. Agrieved people have long memories and greedy politicians would be wise to acknowledge this fact. History has shown time and again that those who are greedy are eventually overtaken by those who are needy. Perhaps some of your cohort intuitively know this and want more money to fortify their gated communities to stave off the inevitable s**t-storm that is gathering at their walls.
True story
written by GTY, February 20, 2007
I am struck by the pure accuracy of the authors article. It is the Brazilian nature to worry only about ones self, even at the expense of others. In the US most politicans actually take pay cuts when they are elected, most are already rich and succesful and now want the power, in the US, power corruots. In Brazil, money corrupts, politicans (Lula is an example) see winning an election as an opportunity to get rich by participating in corruption and kick backs, most low level municipal politicans come from simple backgrounds, get elected by saying the right things, then steal from the people who elected them. They then are involved in bribery with the city officals including law enforcement (an oxymoron in Brazil)...it never changes. Every once in a while the Federal Police arrest one or two low level politicans on a sting just to get it in Globo and make it look like they are doing something. The day will never come when a really big fish do any jail time. But this is not only a political problem, but a cultural one as well. Brazilians always look out for themselves first at the expense of all others, they are a very selfish society and are now paying big time for their sins.
Demagogy
written by Luca, Roma, Italy, February 20, 2007
Honestly, while I agree that congressmen's salaries do not really need to be increased even more, I think any discourse around thata points to a fake problem for Brazilian society, since congress salary do not really affect the country's finances (0,0001% GDP) and it ends up being pure demagogy for the masses. Nothing is going to change if congressmen salaries get a cut or a surge. What really needs to be fought is corruption among politicians, by passing a law that prevents politicians who are on trial to either be elected or vote in the Parliament.
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written by bo, February 20, 2007
In a country where the monthly minimum wage is 350 reais (US$ 167.31) the members of Congress want to make their monthly salaries equal to the 24,700 reais (US$ 11,800) received by the Federal Supreme Court judges, who still want raises for themselves. And the two salaries hide additional advantages, free of income tax, that do not appear on the pay stub.


How in the world could a politician ask to have his income "tax exempt"?? My god, don't they realize that they're wanting laws that say, "the laws of this country simply don't apply to us".

Politicians are scum, the world over, but I've never seen anything like these in brazil. They'd steal christ off the cross and come back for the nails.
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written by bo, February 20, 2007
True story
written by GTY, 2007-02-19 19:40:59

I am struck by the pure accuracy of the authors article. It is the Brazilian nature to worry only about ones self, even at the expense of others. In the US most politicans actually take pay cuts when they are elected, most are already rich and succesful and now want the power, in the US, power corruots. In Brazil, money corrupts, politicans (Lula is an example) see winning an election as an opportunity to get rich by participating in corruption and kick backs, most low level municipal politicans come from simple backgrounds, get elected by saying the right things, then steal from the people who elected them. They then are involved in bribery with the city officals including law enforcement (an oxymoron in Brazil)...it never changes. Every once in a while the Federal Police arrest one or two low level politicans on a sting just to get it in Globo and make it look like they are doing something. The day will never come when a really big fish do any jail time. But this is not only a political problem, but a cultural one as well. Brazilians always look out for themselves first at the expense of all others, they are a very selfish society and are now paying big time for their sins.



GTY, I've been saying that for many years now. People may look at the U.S. as a "superficial" society that doesn't have "family values" as in brazil. But for many of the "cultural" differences that I'm aware of in brazil, numerous are driven by outright selfishness. Brazilians ARE a very selfish people, much more so to what I was accustomed to before I ever came here.
PAY THEM PRO PAY
written by forrest allen brown, February 20, 2007
Well it means if you dont do your job than you dont get paid more than the avarage working person in the state you are from
the congress people of brazil show the ME ME ME first than my family then my friends and screw the rest till next election

For no matter how noble a life is lived no one can prevent a "Ephialtes of Trachis"
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written by istheman, February 21, 2007
This article was not written by Cristovam Buarque. It appears on his web site, however the site clearly states: Escrito por: Neblina Orrico - neblina@senado.gov.br"--written by Neblina Orrico. While this does not detract from the excellent points made in the article, it does raise some questions about Brazzil Magazine's sense of accuracy.
Bo
written by The American Historian, February 21, 2007
I have noticed that people are more likely to behave selfishly in a society when they know that society can't be trusted to work in a fair and just manner. The behavior described above just confirms that in many ways Brazil does not work.

I know A Brazilian, these are all lies, lies and more lies.
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written by Ric, February 21, 2007
Unfortunate the Veja comparison of Brazil as an ostrich when it comes to crime, this week´s issue. While ostriches only appear to stick their heads in the sand, but don´t, it is true that their eyes are bigger than their brains, thy will eat almost everything, and even though they have been used in harness racing, they are difficult to saddle and their irascibility makes them hard to handle. Inappropriate comparison, someone should sue.
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written by bo, February 21, 2007
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written by Ric, 2007-02-20 19:20:44

Unfortunate the Veja comparison of Brazil as an ostrich when it comes to crime, this week´s issue. While ostriches only appear to stick their heads in the sand, but don´t, it is true that their eyes are bigger than their brains, thy will eat almost everything, and even though they have been used in harness racing, they are difficult to saddle and their irascibility makes them hard to handle. Inappropriate comparison, someone should sue.




yeah, the ostrich!
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written by Ric, February 21, 2007
An Ostrich´s lot is not an easy one. Native to Africa, black feathers, small wings, can get up to 300 pounds, likes to live with 3 or four females, and Justin (and others) use his skin to make Cowboy Boots. No wonder he´s irascible. And now used by Veja to illustrate national attitudes towards crime.

It´s a good thing that his brain IS smaller than his eyes.
Phony article
written by judith miller, February 21, 2007
So Brazzil.com , will you let your children without an anwswer?? Will you mommy let us whine and ask questions to you without paying attention to us? Why is there a need to fake some of the article's authors here?? The tittles you confeccionate them, but can't you be a little more genuine regarding the texts and taking your readers a little more serious?? You see, this text was not written by Buarque himself as a poster pointed. Still, it appears written by Buarque??? What a great work you do for the Brazilian authors... And the copy of braz newspapers, magazines? Do you pay copywrite rights??
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written by judith miller, February 21, 2007
BTW, how much does PT pay you for this making their propaganda? sell out
AT LEAST
written by forrest allen brown, February 21, 2007
I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO POST A REPORT ON THE RAG FOR ALMOST A YEAR AND IT IS NEVER DONE .

JUST WHAT THEY WANT TO PUT ON IS DONE

I HAVE EVEN CALLED THE MAN IN CHARGE TO ASK HIM HE LIVES IN CALIFORNIA , I WOKE HIM UP

GOT THE BRASILIAN 2 STEP FROM HIM

SAME DANCE DIFFERENT COUNTRY
UPSET
written by Ric, February 21, 2007
No wonder you are upset, Forrest. I would like very much to see your article. Keep trying. Try to call him during business hours, Pacific time.
Forrest
written by GTY, February 21, 2007
Give us his number and we will all call in your behalf. Exposed for what they are a second rate rag! I'm outta here, it's been fun...bye everyone.
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written by bo, February 21, 2007
Phony article
written by judith miller, 2007-02-21 15:53:05

So Brazzil.com , will you let your children without an anwswer?? Will you mommy let us whine and ask questions to you without paying attention to us? Why is there a need to fake some of the article's authors here?? The tittles you confeccionate them, but can't you be a little more genuine regarding the texts and taking your readers a little more serious?? You see, this text was not written by Buarque himself as a poster pointed. Still, it appears written by Buarque??? What a great work you do for the Brazilian authors... And the copy of braz newspapers, magazines? Do you pay copywrite rights??


Judith....are you retarded???


Just asking, because my 5 year old american/brazilian daughter, that has been raised in brazil, has better english than you.
Forrest...
written by bo, February 21, 2007
keep calling, tell him that there are faithful readers AND participants that want to see at least ONE of your articles.


I've talked to this guy before myself, he's no brain surgeon.


Afterall, whoever would venture to put up a f**king "SERIES" of articles about ATM machines in brazil can't be all there.
Who Cares Whether Buarque Wrote It Or Not
written by Ric, February 22, 2007
I think you may have screwed up your chances of being published, Forrest, by calling his magazine a "rag". Not everyone can deal with that. But I hope not. Keep trying.
My Sins
written by GTY, February 22, 2007
Don't blame Ric for the Rag comment, that came from me...I am not as articulate as Ric or Bo, so I won't be submitting anything soon.
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written by istheman, February 22, 2007
I remain puzzled by the fact that, despite my mention of this a few days ago, Brazzil continues to attribute authorship of this article to Cristovam Buarque . Personally, I'd be angry if something I hadn't penned was published under my name--or conversely, if something I had written was published under somebody else's name.
Istheman
written by A brazilian, February 22, 2007
It seems this magazine editors are not worried about ethics and copyrights. The same way articles are attributed to wrong people, these forums aren't moderated at all. This is a fertile grounds for all kinds of bigotry to flowrish.
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written by bo, February 22, 2007
Istheman
written by A brazilian, 2007-02-22 10:14:02

It seems this magazine editors are not worried about ethics and copyrights. The same way articles are attributed to wrong people, these forums aren't moderated at all. This is a fertile grounds for all kinds of bigotry to flowrish.


Ignorance and denial as well....n'eh baghdad?
Yessss.....Great Article....Buarque !!!!!!
written by ch.c., February 22, 2007
At least He is NOT a junkie as so many are in these forums !!!!

Glad that we have the same vision and analysis of factual happenings...in the Tropical Mud that Brazil is !
Abe Razillion
written by Ric, February 22, 2007
YOU are complaining about a lack of moderation in the forums?
Authorship of article
written by Linda Jerome, February 25, 2007
This article was originally published as "Começou Mal" in Jornal do Commercio, on February 9, 2007. Senator Cristovam Buarque was the author. It was also published in Jornal do Tocantins and Jornal O Mossoroense with his byline.

His website now shows him as the author (Escrito por: Cristovam Buarque - mensagem-cristovam@senado.gov.br)

See http://www.cristovam.com.br/in...sc=8&id=86



Don´t go off half c**ked
written by Ric, February 25, 2007
That means that isheman is not the man at all. And still he remains puzzled.
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written by Jay Glenn, February 26, 2007
I wonder after calculating for taxes, Brazil Law Makers and Judges may make more than the American Counterparts. The Cost of living in Barzil is even quite less, these bandits are getting away with robery.

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