Brazzil

Let see in a couple of days, when Lula will send a plane to rescue his protegee and comes up with an excuse to this fiasco. Micheletti has the law on his side, and finally the Hondurean destiny must be in the hands of Hondurean people.

Honduras' Michelleti is showing the world how to protect democracy, cutting the "Chavista"-cancer immediately before it spreads to the whole system. Zelaya is just Hugo Chavez puppet.

Micheletti already said: Zelaya can stay at the Brazilian Embassy for 10 years. Please Mr. Lula send a queen size matress for the buffon you have at your Tegucigalpa embassy.

Cheers from San Francisco,

Carlos

An article that narrates what has been hapenning in Honduras since June and description of twists, surprises, intrigues, etc; without taking sides.My kudos.

The writer is:

Michael Royster is a US citizen, resident in Rio for over 30 years and a practicing, fully-licensed Brazilian lawyer.

Dr.Royster obviously is a member of OAB and is bound to know the Brasilian and International laws inside out.

One suspects (expects) that the Brazilian Government has a plan, a negotiated settlement that will permit face saving and a peaceful transition.

Probably this plan is part of PAC,PAS, etc; Of course, the lawyers suspect everybody and expect others to take decisions. Fortunately, our President is not a lawyer, unlike PBO. This fact made him to be more decisive and give asylum to Mr.Zelaya in our embassy. His philosophy is "Nobody is guilty until proven otherwise", in spite of his not being a lawyer.Great quality in a born Leader.

Now coming back to this article, I am copying and pasting the questions I put forth to a fellow blogger of ours in the sister site (www.brazzilmag.com):

1.Was it really a coup in Honduras ? 2.Why did Dom.Zelaya who is a wealthy rancher and plantation owner suddenly decide to become the "father" of the poor and try to change the Honduran constitution to attempt another mandate? He sounds to be a phony "leftist" like rest of the "Caudilhos" that Latin America has had the misfortune of being governed throughout its history 3. Why did he choose to seek for asylum in the Brasilian embassy ? I would imagine for his wealth and status, Swiss embassy would have been the right one. 4. Finally, why did he rush towards the Brasilian embassy during a week when our President is in NYC, participating in U.N . General Assembly meetings? To embarrass him and the Brasilian public at large?

Would the author of this article care to respond to my questions?

Thank you.

Dear Mr da Silva,
1. it was a coup, the entire world has denounced it as a coup. not one single solitary country has described it as anything other than a coup.
2. mr z is a faux populist, just as are many other politicians; but he was elected president, and becoming a populist is not grounds for deposing and deporting. I hold no brief for mr z, I hold a brief for the rule of law.
3. the swiss wouldn't give mr z the time of day, they have no interest in latin american politics, only latin american money.
4. it is not an embarrassment to Brazil, it is an opportunity to become a real player in the hemisphere's realpolitik. If Lula and Amorim had thought it would be embarrassing, they would have given him short shrift. they didn't.
So, let me ask you: are you, as a Brazilian, embarrassed by this move? if so, why? what's wrong with Brazil taking an assertive position on the hemispherical stage?

According to El Mundo & El Pais (Spain), Zelaya was introduced to Honduras in a Venezuelan plane, the proof is that the plane landed first in San Salvador and was fined with $30K and after that flew to Honduras. (see their websites please)

We are just witnessing a CONSPIRACY prepared and executed by Hugo Chavez and backed up by Lula.

Mr. Royster, please explain what is Lula's role? Did Itamaraty carefully planned this operation in cordination with Venezuela's Dictator?

Brazil as a hegemonic leader? Not yet, you r going to deploy whatever army you have from Brazil to Honduras and pass in front of the Caribean US Fleet?.

Cheers

Cesar

Of course Hugo Chavez is the Boss

Even if Mr Z got to Honduras at a Venezulan plane, I don´t believe Lula and Chaves are playing together, impossible. Chaves play a different game, he states he´s against the US all the way, and has his own Latim America psicho dreams.

Lula is "a full time player" just that. He´ll never help Chaves, he´ll never help Obama, Morales, Lugo, Bachelet, Sarkozy etc....He has his own team of personal suckers(good strategy, I must confess). He cares just about his performance, and the other leader must play his game, cause Lula knows how to manipulate them. I´m not saying the other will loose something serving Lula, Lula is a politician for more then 30 years, he know he must please the others, eather if they are in Brazil and overseas.It´s alawys about a deal, the script is given to each one involved, "the perfect plans".
But Chaves and Lula planning together? No way...

GET OFF THE CROSS SOME ONE ELSE NEEDS THE WOOD !!!!!

Z was trying to change the law with out the full consent of the people or the congress.

I have many people in Houndras the Brazilian embassy is shut down no one leaves or enters with out permision from the military or govermnent say so .

Z people are just a hand full of sepical friends that he gave something to or will if he gains power like the MST in brazil and the welfare folks in the US . out to get something for free.

now lula wants the UN mto send in troops to save his embassy and his people . lots of luck with that after your comander in Haitia killed himself after being caught with under age girls having sex and going to stand trial in the huage .

brazil will stand alone on this for a while than just maybe chaves will try to help but at his own risk like Nicholaas Berger said not planed togeather

there will be blod spilled over this and it will be on lulas hands but he will point it at PBO or some one eles but not brasil and for sure not lula

Dear Mr.Royster,

Thanks for your reply.

So, let me ask you: are you, as a Brazilian, embarrassed by this move?

I am not embarrassed by this move, but saddened by the fact that we are interfering in the domestic affairs of a small country that poses no direct or indirect threat to us.It is also tragicomic to see our embassy premises being used as a political campaign Headquarters by a buffoon who no doubt is promoting his own cult figure.

what's wrong with Brazil taking an assertive position on the hemispherical stage?

There is nothing wrong and in fact, I would love to see Brasil taking more assertive role not only on the hemispherical stage, but also on the world stage. However, there are many other better ways such as neutral diplomacy, fair trade practices, etc; than trying to bring about "regime changes" in other small countries of no threat to us or siding with despot dictators who want to amend their constitutions to remain in power eternally.

BTW,I think that the coming 15 months are going to be crucial for the "hemisphere" and hopefully Brasilians will assert themselves as "leaders" and not "World Cops" nor just aiming to win the "World Cup".

brazil will stand alone on this for a while than just maybe chaves will try to help but at his own risk like Nicholaas Berger said not planed togeather/quote]

Hey Forrest,

I would love to hear further comments of Augustus on this issue. He must already be in the "Patria" where he has access to several Brasilian newspapers.

Lula is "a full time player" just that. He´ll never help Chaves, he´ll never help Obama, Morales, Lugo, Bachelet, Sarkozy etc....He has his own team of personal suckers(good strategy, I must confess). He cares just about his performance, and the other leader must play his game, cause Lula knows how to manipulate them. I´m not saying the other will loose something serving Lula, Lula is a politician for more then 30 years, he know he must please the others, eather if they are in Brazil and overseas.It´s alawys about a deal, the script is given to each one involved, "the perfect plans".
But Chaves and Lula planning together? No way...

Very interesting comments, Nicholaas. In a way, you are indeed echoing the thoughts of a Brasilian-American writer Mr.Augustus Severus who published an article in this site titled "Polarization of Latin America". Many Brasilians share his thoughts.

The current strategy of "manipulating" other leaders may function to a certain extent (especially in other LatAm countries and in certain part of Africa), but not all the time. Our "allies" in the Orient may get tired and decide to take counter measures. It did happen in the last round of Doha trade negotiations.

just let's work towards freedom in this county so that their people can stay there or go back to their homeland...this would make them happy.

I'm glad to see an article published here by somebody so well informed on the geopolitical chess game going on, principally between the US and Brazil.

Whole the Latin America governed by militarian copes after the colonalization by pirates from West Europe. Coupe after coupes by leadership of USA, a cowboy continent-there they killed so much they could of original people. But now the original people dosen,t build 1 % of whole continent, they kill each other as exactly they was from begining a primitive pirates which they still don,t want what they want? To kill, or just have power, all are cowboy as animal. Whole continet is a big depote of wapeon. Every body must have a gun. Whose are the enemy?

This coupe not totally directe by USA- therfore the worlds coupe-maker in the world USA now are against this one. The last Constitions Law in Honduras allow one period of presidentship. This law must be followed. Mr Micheletti said he downs step from presidentship untill new election in november and Mr Zelaya must follow the constituion-that means he can,t even nominate for another time. Any change in Constituion must done by Hondurans Parlimant not by decret from a person. A president who will extend his own comission- is totaly indication of dictatorship. To manipulate whole people in name of democracy is this times olygarches and those who will controll and dominate.