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11/08/2002
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Hello, I am American, I can comunicate in Port. if preferred.
Here is my story.
In 1996 I married a Br. woman. 1 year later I learned that she had committed murder, theft, forgery and embezelment in order to continue to rob me and support her gigolo boyfriend.
I have paid lawyers basically R$2.000,00 per month for the last 6 years to have her prosecuted.

I want to apply pressure to the Cabo Frio Justice System, RJ State and secure publicity for this story. I and many people (when they learn the details) are amazed at the complete failure of the Cabo Frio Police Department and the Prosecutor Dr. Fador Sampaio to adhere to the law.

An example: July 19, 2002 Dr. Fador Sampio issued a "invitation" to my wife to be at his office for a interview on the murder charges. My wife ignored this appointment as she has the previous 3 "Mandatos do Inquirito" delivered to her from the Police Dept. the previous 3 years.
Because my wife did not appear for the appointment Dr. Fador issued a arrest warrant...this is when Dr. Fador learned that a arrest warrant had been issued 15 months previously by the Cabo Frio Police Dept !!!
The warrant is for first degree murder of a child.

I have not been able to contact one person that will respond to their email or return their telephone calls.

Any ideas.

Regards, Mark



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wow this is so amazing too. im so sorry for you but have no
idea for you too. dont see her any more times maybe. so bad
situation than other situation. boa sorte.


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11/09/2002
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Sinto muito pelo ocorrido. espero que vc não generalize. você teve azar em escolher a mulher errada.

Primeira recomendaçã^: mude de advogado imediatamente. este advogado não esta com boa fé. quer te passar a perna por você ser um gringo.

Segunda recomendação: procure o ministério publico através de um procurador de justiça. (não conte em reaver o seu dinheiro) ele encaminhara o processo a justica estadual e ate mesmo a policia federal.

Terceira recomendaçao: Procure mobilizar a opiniao pública!! Este é o mais efetivo com toda certeza. procure os meios de comunicação como o programa do "brasil urgente" que passa na tv band, ou o programa do "ratinho" do SBT. Quando un caso deste cai na boca do povo, a pressão da população faz com que o caso se torne publico pressionando mais rapidez da justiça.

Outro conselho. Mude de apartamento e de preferencia de cidade. (pessoas assim podem de fazer mal)

Hope this helps you my unfortunate friend!


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11/10/2002
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Thank-you for your reply and help.
No, I will not generalize, I am sure there are good Brazilians, unfortunately in my 10 years in Brazil, 90% of the people that I have had much contact with have not been truthful, honest or persons of integrity. This includes 2 lawyers in Rio, police, judges, business owner, regular people. This is not a generalization, it is my experience.
Now I will reply specifically to your comments and criticisms.
1. I have lost all my money trying to rescue my two children from their criminal mother and her band of criminals, just recently the judge gave me temporary custody...an American tourist. This is a demonstration of what a monster these children's mother is.
Ask yourself how many Brazilian fathers get their children....very rare. I am an American tourist. I have received the children not because I am American (in fact it has been my experience that many Brazilians have a derogatory prejudice against Americans and America).
I have lost all my money, US$350.000,00 !!!!!!!!
I now have nearly no money.
I cannot get another lawyer.
The lawyer I have now is my third. The problem is not the lawyer the problem is the Cabo Frio Police Department and the Cabo Frio Promotor.
2. I will make this second recommendation to my lawyer and try to get help over the internet
3. I have thought of this, I have tried to contact Linha Direta but they never reply to their email. I will try these others. If you could help me with email addresses or telephone numbers I would appreciate it.
4. I am in the process of buying my second house, I cannot leave Nova Friburgo, I have no money. My wife forged my name and sold my first house of Cabo Frio illegally and stole all the property illegally. Again the police have done nothing! I have documentation and witnesses but they are inefficient and corrupt.

Thank-you for your help, sincerely, Mark DuPriest

Obrigado para sua resposta e ajuda.
Não, eu não generalizarei, eu estou seguro há os brasileiros bons, infelizmente em meus 10 anos no Brasil, 90% das pessoas que eu tive muito contato com não foi verdadeiro, honesto ou pessoas de integridade. Isto inclui 2 advogados em Rio, polícia, juízes, dono empresarial, pessoas regulares,. Esta não é uma generalização, é minha experiência.
Agora eu especificamente responderei a seus comentários e críticas.
1. Eu perdi todo meu dinheiro que tenta salvar minhas duas crianças da criminal mãe deles/delas e a faixa dela de criminosos, só recentemente o juiz me deu custódia temporária... um turista americano. Esta é uma demonstração que a mãe destas crianças é um monstro .
O pergunte esta quantos pais brasileiros adquirem as crianças deles/delas.... muito raro. Eu sou um turista americano. Eu não recebi as crianças porque eu sou americano (na realidade foi minha experiência que muitos brasileiros têm um preconceito derrogatório contra os americanos e América).
Eu perdi todo meu dinheiro, US$350.000,00!!!!!!!!
Eu não tenho quase nenhum dinheiro agora.
Eu não posso adquirir outro advogado.
O advogado que eu tenho é agora meu terço. O problema grande é a Cabo Frio Polícia e o Cabo Frio Promotor.
2. Eu farei esta segunda recomendação a meu advogado e tentarei adquirir ajuda sobre do internet
3. Eu pensei disto, eu tentei contatar Linha Direta mas eles nunca respondem ao e-mail deles. Eu tentarei estes outros. Se você pudesse me ajudar com endereços de e-mail ou números de telefone que eu apreciaria isto.
4. Eu estou no processo de comprar minha segunda casa, eu não posso deixar Nova Friburgo Nova, jiuiza ordems e eu não tenho nenhum dinheiro. Minha esposa forjou meu nome e vendido minha primeira casa de Cabo Frio ilegalmente e roubou toda a propriedade ilegalmente. Novamente a polícia não fez nada! Eu tenho documentação e testemunho mas eles são ineficientes e corruptos.

De agradecimento para sua ajuda, sinceramente, Mark DuPriest



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11/10/2002
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Mark: Maybe I'll be unjustly hard on you in what I ask, but I am not understanding somethings. If you are only an 'American Tourist'and have no money, how can you be buying a second home? And why would you buy in the same place you say you hate? Why do you want to pursue this if you have custody of your children? What this sounds like is a bitter divorce story of a man who was betrayed by his wife. Not to be unsympathetic, but do you realize how many similar scenarios are played out in the U.S. divorce courts everyday? What responsibility do you take in the fact that you chose this woman to marry and let her have access to your money and property title? I don't doubt that she is a bad person and you may have met with some very corrupt officials, but if you keep seeking vengenance, you will only destroy yourself, not her. My suggestion is to use the money you are putting into buying a house in a place where you don't want to live, and rent a comfortable apartment for you and your children and save for a house where you do want to live. Let God take care of the punishment for your wife. Put your focus on loving and giving to your children and building a new life. And, if you stay in Brazil, adopt some new attitudes towards the people. Yes, some brazilians can't stand Americans and many brazilians play at 'taking advantage of the gringo', but don't you think some Americans treat foreigners that way here? Just as there are wonderful, honest Americans, there are wonderful honest brazilians. And alot of the 'take advantage of'is a cultural game that isn't played on the people who call them on it. It just seems that you need to adjust your attitudes and you will have some wonderful experiences with the brazilian people and find some truly meaningful friendships which go deeper than the ones Americans tend to have. Please think about this.


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11/11/2002
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I believe that I understand what you are writing and I will respond.
First if your assumption is that I am purchasing my second house in the same city (Cabo Frio), it is incorrect. My second house is in Nova Friburgo.
If your point is why purchase a second house in Brazil after all my bad experiences I will answer this. Because I am the father of three Brazilian children that I will not abandon. As you may well know Brazil has a law that children do not legally leave the country until after their 10th birthday without the approval of both parents. I do not have approval.
I wrote that I have temporary custody not permanent; my children are trapped there until the youngest is 10 years old.
Your point about “how many times does this happen in America” misses the point of this information and is a poor excuse for the behavior of the Brazilians involved. Perhaps I did not make myself clear or you did not comprehend well. The point of the information here is the injustice of the Cabo Frio Justice System! If you are bored by this point then quit reading and leave.
You ask what responsibility do I take as a husband and father of three children for giving my wife access to sufficient financial resources to respond in a responsible (first world) way to any possible emergency while I am away working in America or other countries to support my family. I take full responsibility. You blame me for this ? What decent father / husband would leave his family any other way ? Don’t most family men keep their legal papers in their house ?

My wife did not have access to the property title. She and the first lawyer she asked (who lives 5 minutes from my Cabo Frio house) sold my house illegally forging my name and creating all the documents they needed. In the end this corrupt lawyer robbed my wife of part of her illegally gotten money.
Your comparison of “seeking justice” as being equal to “vengeance” in my opinion is a very clear single example of why Brazil is the third world country that it is. People do not stand up and demand justice. I have heard this attitude so many times from Brazilians. I refuse to accept this injustice and I do not respect people that allow themselves to be taken advantage of unfairly and do nothing about it when they can. I am a fighter. I will not sit and let any of these corrupt people benefit from their unlawful treatment of me. Americans normal response is fight !, good for you !, try harder !, try this… in contrast to your position of “give up”. Your suggestion to abandon the quest for justice is not from a person that wants to make the world / Brazil a better place but from a person willing to be mistreated. Your attitude is a shame. I am willing to fight to make Brazil a better place…you suggest allowing the Cabo Frio Justice system to continue their alleged injustice. Do you not see the irony here? I am am the type of person that will help make a better Brazil, you are the type of Brazilian that suggests doing nothing, change nothing. Effective democracies do not progress with your attitude, perhaps your attitude is representative of Brazil and this is a indication of why your country is the country it is.

Apparently you believe in some god, ok that is your personal belief. Not all people believe the same as you. Personally I do not nor have I ever believed in the existance of any gods, messiahs, prophets, holy men, saints, magic, karma, astrology or any other superstitions.

The attitude you express that what has happened to me happens everywhere is such a simplistic response as to make me question your age / intelligence. Of course people are people, crimes that can happen-happen everywhere, everyone knows this. The main points of my story is the relative degree of occurrence and the response of the “justice system” in Cabo Frio, Rio de Janeiro Sate, Brazil. If you had the time or inclination to read the documents you would understand that nearly every Brazilian that I have had a significant financial transaction, legal exchange with has been corrupt, lied and behaved dishonestly with me, especially the legal system. This is not just my opinion, it is the opinion of some Brazilians that have read the doc’s and are not insecure to admit the truth about Brazil.

I have not made a payment on my house for 2 years for several reasons.
1. I have no money.
2. The son of the house seller robbed me of US$4,000.00
3. The seller lied about the condition of the house.
4. The son and seller inflated the price for the gringo. so the contract is in court.
5. My lawyer wrote a contract that never was valid
The son Isais Junior pretended to be my friend ( for 2 years) until I trusted him enough to go into business with him. He then stole all the profits and funds of capitalization of our business, tried to steal another R$2.000,00 regarding the sale of a motorcycle.

As far as me taking responsibility for the murder, forgery, thefts, lies, embezzlements and adultery of my wife, the help she received from her family, the silence of my neighbors and the inability of myself and my two Brazilian lawyers to know this, I will not. I did suspect in the last months but my lawyers advised me to collect evidence so I had to wait. But the fact is I and all the decent people involved with her were fooled by her. She was/is a good actriz.
Most Americans understand that blaming the victim for the crimes of the criminal is a common and deceptive practice of people that want to obscure the issue, so that the criminal is not held accountable for their actions.
My two lawyers were dumbfounded at the length of time (3 years) and degree of my wife’s deceptions. They (two women) call her my wife a monster in court papers.

Another issue is the common response I get from many Brazilians. I have stated the facts and declared that this is my experience, I never once stated or generalized that this applies to all Brazilians. If you read the documents you would have to agree that the alleged crimes did occur; that cannot be argued against but many Brazilians first response is to get defensive and blame me or immediately point out the fact that America has a problem/s. They try to change the subject. Many have difficulty accepting that this has been my experience and admitting I have had a terrible time in their country at the hands of their countrymen \ women.

Can this happen anywhere?
The murder and several of the other crimes could happen anywhere. But the response of the Cabo Frio Justice system could not happen in America.
I do not believe that any American would agree based on the documents in my (and the Police’s) possession that Sandra would not have been arrested Sept, 1997 (when the police were presented with two eyewitnesses to the murder & testified against her) immediately (with-in 2 days) for first degree murder of her son and held in jail until her trial which would likely be with-in a couple of months.
In contrast, in Brazil my wife is still walking the streets of Rio, free and laughing (she states "this is Brazil, nothing will happen to me", so far she is correct).
As far as the other 6 crimes, the police have not even investigated, after 5 years!
These crimes are (and are all on file)
Theft, forgery regarding the illegal sale of my Cabo Frio house.
Theft of all the property in and outside this house.
Theft of funds regarding a Visa Credit card.
Writing 3 checks without funds.
Altering a receipt and embezzling funds.
Perjury – 2 counts

In addition I can file the following crimes if I so desire:
Theft of funds and embezzlement of the electricity for 3 years.
Theft of Electricity from the City Cabo Frio
Forgery & embezzlement regarding a medical operation that never occurred.
Forgery of a doctor name, and medical diagnosis
Theft of funds – washing machine
Theft of funds- my daughters school money
Threat of murder against one neighbor that wanted to tell me the truth about her behavior when I was away working in America to support my family.
Thefts of funds – American Express credit card

What I think you fail to admit (and perhaps grasp) is the degree of the inability of the Cabo Frio Justice System to function according to Brazilian Law. This is the issue. It is a disgrace. And it is this that is my main point. I will not stop to advertise this fact. Not one Brazilian (including lawyers) I have met in my 10 years there or outside Brazil ( I work with 6) has ever expressed pride or confidence in their countries justice system. Brazil has existed 500 years the same as America.

To all the possible tourist's I plan to educate them to my experience and what they can expect from the Cabo Frio Justice System.
I will not keep quiet until I get Justice!

My last point, the fact that many Brazilians call Americans (and others) gringos is a testament to their rudeness, this word is not polite and you know it.
Some stupid Americans use the word nigger. Nowadays this word is rare in my experience and I have lived in the South for 15 years. Most (90%) understand the ignorance of this word. Only the most ignorant dare use this word anymore.
Now I understand to a lesser degree the feelings of being called a derogatory word based on my origin.
Brazilians (in fact Latin Americans) use this word regularly, we Americans know you are insulting us, it is not appreciated.
Finally, your last sentence shows that you are biased against Americans because a possible “friendship” with a Brazilian WOULD be deeper and more meaningful than most friendships between Americans tend to be. What an ignorant generalization. There are 280 milion Americans, you are are personally, intimately involved in the friendships of most of these Americans? Obviously not.
This statement, if you wrote it correctly, and it accurately expresses your opinion shows you to have prejudice that reflects well on most Brazilians and poorly against all Americans. I think this prejudice is stupid.
Do you follow the logical extrapolation?
You think about it.
My opinion.
Good-day.



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11/11/2002
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wow! what a mess! i still think you gotta look toward the public opinion and the higher justice like "ministerio publico" and even the governor of Rio de janeiro thru his chief office staff.

anyway here are some useful phone and links that can put you right on course. Remeber: always there´s a way out no matter how bad seems the problem. Também passei por coisas parecidas.

Programa do ratinho:
"http://www.sbt.com.br/programas/ratinho/falecomoratinho/"

Assim que conseguir mais te envio.




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11/11/2002
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Yea it is a mess. Thanks for the suggestions. I sent Ratinho, Linha Direta (for the third time) and "Urgent" (TV bande) email this weekend hoping to get a response. This seems to be the problem. She only killed 1 child, the crimes are not big enough in comparison to the daily happenings there. I cannot even get a reporter to answer his email !
I am trying.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Remember, my portuguese is not good it is medium basic (I have had other priorities) so surfing the web for email address is difficult for me, maybe that is why people do not respond.
I have been emailing an American that has been in brasil for 20 years, owns a business and he agrees that many of the lawyers there would not be lawyers in America. This has also been my experience. My lawyer is young and has no contacts, he only submits papers and does what I sugggest. I never get any ideas from him or the 2 women I previously had.


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11/11/2002
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To "Good Advice"
"the governor of Rio de janeiro thru his chief office staff."
This is something I have not considered. Because I am only a tourist I did not think I could contact a government official at this level...but it is worth a try.
Can you help me.
I have made the suggestion to my lawyer.
Last month this lawyer cost me R$2,200,00 for less than 2 hours of his time,to my knowledge.
I will try to find a email address for this govenment official....can anyone help me.
Perhaps someone can simply send an email to him/her suggesting they come to this forum and read the info...then they can contact me at:
markdupriest@surfbest.net
Obviously any help or interest that aids me in my quest for justice is greatly appreciated.




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11/11/2002
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Good-day Chief of Staff of Anthony Garotino

I can communicate in Portuguese but my English is by far superior.

http://www.brazzil.com/messageboard/104.shtml

If you want many of the details they are at the forum above.

Recent Message to The American Consulate:
This consulate has had involvement with me for 6 years, most recently in July & August, 2002 when my Brazilian wife was temporarily arrested (40 days) for the first degree murder of her son. She was released on Habeas Corpus.

Due to a suggestion on the forum listed above it has been suggested to me that I try to contact the chief of staff of the Governor of Rio de Janeiro and request his involvement in this criminal injustice I have received over the last 5 years from the Cabo Frio Justice System.

Obviously I have asked my Brazilian lawyer. But I do not expect his timely cooperation or he will likely lose a client that has been accruing a legal debt at R$ 2,200.00 per month, all total to the lawyers, R$ 2,000.00 for 6 years!

I am publishing a Web Site to publish my unfortunate experience at the hands of the Cabo Frio Police Department and Cabo Frio Regional Promotor Dr. Fador Sampaio.
I am and will continue to protest in every way (legally) to raise consciousness of the injustice I, my children and the dead baby have received at the hands of the Cabo Frio "Justice" System.

Do you care to be involved ?

You can contact me or my lawyer.
Sincerely, Mark DuPriest
markdupriest@surfbest.net



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11/11/2002
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"Because I am only a tourist I did not think I could contact a government official at this level..."

Look, even being a tourist in Brazil, it doesn´t necessarily means that you have no rights. The key point here is that you´re involved with Brazilian matters, (you´ve started a company, had kids here and as far as i understand, got married also) so you´re plentifull right to demand e special attention toward your case.

We don´t decriminate race or anything, or we´re supposed not to. I´m sure you´re to meet with righteous people. Like me. And i can´t stand quiet facing what´s happenning to ya. So i will help the best way i can. You can count on that.

And another thing... don´t spend another cent with this cheap lawyer (we call then "advogado de porta de cadeia") keep your money and use it whenever is really necessary.


good advice
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11/11/2002
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This is the contact for a network affiliated to rede globo. This is near your house. call there and say: "Gostaria de fazer uma denúncia que envolve a policia, juizes e criminosos. preciso entrar em contato com o departamento jornalístico da emissora."

Hope this helps for now.

UNIDADE NOVA FRIBURGO
R. Dr. Ernesto Brasílio, 64 - cobertura
Centro - Nova Friburgo - RJ
Cep.: 28610-120
Tel.: 0xx (22) 2519-9000







good advice
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11/11/2002
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This one below is for " Linha direta" Call and send a letter also. with pictures, all documents xerox that proof your statemant.

DIVISÃO DE PLANEJAMENTO DE MARKETING
DEPTO DE PLANEJAMENTO MATRIZ/SP - DPEP 017/02 - 04/02
FONES (11) 3177-9843/9771


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Mark: I don't want to add to your stress level, but I think I need to apologize for where I did misunderstand you and ask you to look at some things that were made evident in your reply.
First, I did not understand your original home was in a different city than where you are buying now. I just presumed Cabo Frio had jurisdiction for other reasons. I also did not know you were away working nor that your wife didn't have access to the property title. So I apologize for making those presumptions. Lastly, I did not know you could not take a child less than 10 years of age out of the country permanently. I presumed you could, if one parent was an american citizen. I would still check into that on the American end and get an American official involved if you can. Why didn't I know the later? Here is where I still have an issue. You presumed I was Brazilian because you did not like what I had to say. I AM AN AMERICAN! But you were ready to believe that I was Brazilian because of your anger at Brazilians. Meanwhile, the people who ARE Brazilians are giving you the type of answers you want.
I am not blaming you for your wife's crimes. I simply wanted you to look at what is actually an American saying "There are no victims, only volunteers" and where you might fit into this. I don't agree completely with that saying. There are many victims who are just in the wrong place at the wrong time though proponents of the saying would say that they chose to be there. But you did marry this woman. You may have left her in charge when you had reason not to trust her. I keep all legal documents in a lock box in the bank of this type, so you didn't take pre-cautions when you began not to trust her. I am not condoning what she did in any way, nor what has happened to you. You have had a horrible lesson and paid a big price. What I want you to look at is why you still need to continue to pay that price and at what cost.
Yes, Americans do fight, but we need to pick our battles carefully and realize which can be won and will be lost before we go to war.And ask ourselves the question of 'at what price to ourselves and innocent parties'. Not only did your wife take the life of your child, your home, and other things, but you have allowed her to continue to drain your bank account through these continual lawyer fees, take your time, your peace, and probably, your health. All of this could have gone towards your remaining children. They need a very present father. They will hopefully need college funds. They need a Dad who is present for them, not locked in the rage of a continual battle. They need a father who will be around to give them away at their weddings and hold their grandchildren, not a grave to visit of the Dad who died of stress related causes fighting a system with which he is not familiar. You went to war against a more powerful enemy without the resources or weapons to conquer. In my opinion, you are so focused on what you have lost and getting revenge for the wrongs of a woman and system which have hurt you, that you are losing sight of where you can win and where you can mitigate the damage, instead of continuing to pay the price on a battlefield you are ill-equipped to wage war on.
No, it is not right that corruption continues to exist in the forms of your wife and the Cabo Frio criminal justice system. You say this couldn't happen in America. Maybe not in that form, but we have an adversarial system where the cleverest lawyer often wins whether his case is just or not. Your wife 'escaped'her punishment, but we release from prison child killers who kill again. Look at the recent case of Samantha in Orange County. We have juries which ignore all the evidence and let criminals back on the streets. Yes, it does happen in a different form in America.
No one has asked you to be the lone saviour of Cabo Frio. If the system treats others this way, someone who does have the power and the resources to expose and overturn them will eventually. If you want to make it your mission for the good of Brazil, then you need to get detached. You need to stop making it personal. Then you will have more clarity, peace, and patience to go about it. Yet, from all I hear in your words, you don't want to do this for Brazilians, you want to do it for you. The reformers who succeed are those who truly want the good of others. Sometimes personal motivation triggers their campaign, but the successful lose sight of theirselves in the process. I do not see that you have done this, or are willing to.
Man's justice is not always done on this earth. But often, God's is, in a form you might not even expect, and one which will be very appropriate for that person. Jail is not always the greatest punishment for someone. No one knows when she will trip herself up and what price she will pay. No one knows what inner hells she will go through.No one knows what dire circumstances she may experience with your property and money. The fruits of crime do not usually serve those who indulge in them well. You say you do not believe in God. What do you know about God? Not much, if you believe that He is only a superstition. Give faith a chance. You are better off wrestling with God than you are with a system you are ill equipped to take on.Take Him on. That is a battle worth fighting for the outcome will only end in your good.
Americans can make wonderful friends. But it has been my experience culturally that Brazilians are a warmer and more loyal people as a majority. It's not a lack in Americans. It is just a difference between cultures. Americans are more system and task oriented, while Brazilians are more relational oriented. On a stereotypical whole, Brazilians make more time and devout themselves to their relationships more than the sterotypical American because there is less distractions. Yet, an American friendship can be very deep and loyal. I simply want you to give kind, helpful Brazilians a chance. Look at all the ones in this forum who are trying to help you. I am trying to help you too, but look at the styles. The Brazilians are offering you compassion, care, and drawing alongside you. I am playing devil's advocate and fighting you---but then again, you said Americans like to fight...
My last point is about the word 'Gringo'. When I am in Brazil, everyone, including my boyfriend, calls me 'gringa'. They love to tease me and I regard it as a term of affection. Maybe some people use it derogatorially, but many don't. Brazilians love to 'play'. Tease them back. I actually like the term and am proud of it. I'll refer to myself as "sou gringa americana".
Mark, I am not against you. I am actually trying to help you in a different way. I hope you will read or re-read this without anger, and with an open mind.


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Can´t get any better advice than that.
Pay attention to those lines and cool up.

Remember... i´m willing to help you.


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