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Brent
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12/02/2002
10:03:00
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I am going to Brazil to stay for six months or longer. I recently
won a minor lottery here in NYC (About US$50K), and I have
decided to quit my fucking job and go on a much-deserved
vacation. If anyone want to join me, feel free. (But you're
paying your own way.)

I'm thinking about starting off in Rio, but I'm open to
suggestions for other places to go and stay.


Vargas
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12/02/2002
10:23:45
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Hell yeah, count me in. I'm due for a vacation too, and anyway,
it'd be cool to meet you -- considering we obviously have some
opinions in common. When are you going? Man, we could get
so LAID! I know there's a lot of punani all over the place down
there, but do you know any of the good red light districts? I
hear there's a great one in Sao Paulo.


Patinho
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12/02/2002
10:39:51
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Man if this is true, then consider you lucky and me jealous.

Congrats Brent.

Buy yourself a laptop (not to be confused with lap dance) and don't forget about us.




Brent
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12/02/2002
10:44:10
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Vargas, I'm serious about this. So if you are too, email me at
jizzmasterrio@yahoo.com and we'll talk specifics. I'm
planning on going sometime in February 2003.

As far as red light districts—I'm researching it. I heard Sao
Paulo is a filthy dump, though. I'd rather be by the beach, but
we'll see. I'm open for anything, and with the pitiful current
economic state in Brazil, my US$ should go far.

Yes, as we know, Brazil gash is A+. I'm looking forward to that.
Also if anybody has suggestions for where to gamble, I'd
appreciate it. (I think cockfighting is legal there?)



Brent
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12/02/2002
10:47:10
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Patinho said: "Man if this is true, then consider you lucky and
me jealous. Congrats Brent. Buy yourself a laptop (not to be
confused with lap dance) and don't forget about us."

Thanks, Patinho. I do consider myself lucky. It's the perfect
time to go, in my opinion. It's one of those "now or never" kind
of situations, I feel. I will take my laptop for sure and give
updates.





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12/02/2002
11:37:09
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Gambling is illegal in Brazil, so you'd have to go to the "triplice fronteira" if you wish some. As to red lights district I'd say that Vargas has been doing his homework

Bring light clothes, the summer just started, and it is as hot as hell. (we just had our hottest day in 5 years)


Vargas
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12/02/2002
11:49:03
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This all sounds good. I'll email you soon Brent.


Brent
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12/02/2002
13:49:45
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Vargas, I got your email but I can't seem to email you back. I
think it's the server on my end.

To answer your question, I think drugs are easy to get, but the
penalties are pretty harsh if caught. Let's hold off for now, and
definitely don't bring anything illegal on the plane. I've been
surfing the World Sex Guide today. Lots of interesting stuff
there. Go to www.worldsexguide.org and see for
yourself.

I'm afraid Zé is right about gambling. Again, that's something
better pursued when actually there. I like casinos as much as
the next guy, but I want to see a cockfight more than play the
slots.



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12/02/2002
14:18:06
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To ease your research on the imoral pleasure, the best known * in Rio is Centaurus in ipanema, and drugs if you realy have trouble getting some go to a favela and ask for the "boca de fumo". I won't guarantee your safety though, "gringos" are usually seen as easy targets by the locals.

If you get into trouble the Rio tourist police is located in Leblon on the "Rua Afranio de Mello Franco". Be warned, if you get into trouble with the law our police officers are known for their brutality, and for accepting "fines" when they are "not in the mood to screw you".

Good luck for you two.

Oh, and I advise you again to bring light clothes, the minimum for today is 26 celsius!


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12/03/2002
10:20:38
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Hello I am a millionaire, owner of a James bond Austin martin replica and 2 million LA mansion on the Hills, I love Brazilians, I am single and have no friends. I am going to Brazil with $30 000 cash to spend, I don’t know much about Brazil and don’t really know what I am doing or where I’m going, could anyone guide me? Pick me up at the airport.



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12/03/2002
11:00:40
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shhh... wait and see, they will get in trouble no matter what.


Brent
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12/03/2002
11:10:33
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Thanks a lot for the information, Zé. I'm saving everything you
said. I'm planning to get into trouble no matter what, as you
said, but I want to minimize the dangerousness of the trip. I'm
sure it will be a feeling-out process. I plan on doing an
incredible amount of research in the next couple of months,
so hopefully I can get well prepared.

Down to Earth: You're just jealous, dude.


Down to Earth
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12/03/2002
13:07:31
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Dude? Me?

Poor “little girl”! LOL Jealous of what? Of sleeping with prostitutes (probably underage ones), gambling and doing drugs in someone else’s country? How is it that you have to take your filth abroad? Is it because you can’t get away with doing it in your own country or is it because you want to maintain the national hypocrisy? The day when I become that desperate (sad) I’ll tell you.


“Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone “
-John Maynard Keynes-



Brent
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12/03/2002
13:20:21
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Down to Earth: I never said anything about sleeping with
underage prostitutes, so get your mind out of the gutter. I
enjoy gambling and I enjoy having sex with beautiful
women—so sue me. I know if you just came into a bunch of
money you'd give it to your church or invest it. Who cares? I
want to go to Brazil and have a blast for six months, and
frankly, I don't think there's anything unual about that choice.
There are lots of people on this board who would like to do the
same thing. I consider myself lucky and I want to have as
much fun as possible. My idea of fun might be different from
yours. I don't care.

Have fun at your pathetic 9 to 5 job, if you even have one, and
do me a favor and think of me in March or April. While you're
toiling away in your cubicle (or standing in your unemployment
line), I'll be drinking caipirinha on the beach!


Brent
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12/03/2002
13:20:50
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Down to Earth: I never said anything about sleeping with
underage prostitutes, so get your mind out of the gutter. I
enjoy gambling and I enjoy having sex with beautiful
women—so sue me. I know if you just came into a bunch of
money you'd give it to your church or invest it. Who cares? I
want to go to Brazil and have a blast for six months, and
frankly, I don't think there's anything unual about that choice.
There are lots of people on this board who would like to do the
same thing. I consider myself lucky and I want to have as
much fun as possible. My idea of fun might be different from
yours. I don't care.

Have fun at your pathetic 9 to 5 job, if you even have one, and
do me a favor and think of me in March or April. While you're
toiling away in your cubicle (or standing in your unemployment
line), I'll be drinking caipirinha on the beach!


Vargas
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12/03/2002
13:33:46
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DownToEarth...

"Life is of no value but as it brings us gratifications."
- Thomas Jefferson

"Enjoy yourself. It's later than you think."
- Chinese proverb

"The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those
who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find
compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others."
- Bertrand Russell


Vargas
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12/03/2002
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Dude -- We are gonna get so L-A-I-D!!!! And meSseD up!!! I
can't wait to go to the favelas Zee was talking about. Thanks
for the info everyone.


brazzaboy
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12/03/2002
14:18:21
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By the way it's ASTON MARTIN


Anonymous
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12/03/2002
14:48:13
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Depends upon how many martoonies one has had Old Chap.



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12/03/2002
15:22:14
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I'm warning, the favelas are not going to be part of your most fond memories, unless you have inside protection.

Down to earth: If someone wishes to go up the hill, or down the pit, they're gonna need some rope. Have you no saddistic pleasure speculating how far will these two go?

After all, its fun, and it is free; for us.


Down to Earth
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12/03/2002
16:34:26
Brent is coming!
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Brent there is no need to stammer mate, one message is fine, keep your hair on! I am not the one going on about where to find the best red light districts (is this where you get your beautiful women from?) and asking about illegal gambling activities. I am just adding up from what you have written unlike you who seem to dig out assumptions on people without any kind of foundation whatsoever. But if you want to live off $50K Brazil is definitely a place to go since life there is at least five times cheaper than in the US. As 4 the rest of us £50K is a nice deposit for a house and probably an average car but unless we “gamble” it in the “legal” world, that 50k will quickly melt into a ten buck.

I shall stick to my pathetic freelance work and nice trips to “nice” interesting and friendly parts of Brazil where you don’t need to pay anyone to stay or get love/sex and where I can enjoy a nice tasty Barbecue or festa by the beach or the country side.

Brazzaboy: I know I’ve noticed that, quite an embarrassing mistake really LOL Somehow I was thinking of Austin Powers when I wrote that down. It was probably because I knew you're coming... *chortle* ;)

Ze I must say that would be quite funny to see but he might not live to tell us all about it, so we might as well have a chuckle first thing.




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12/03/2002
19:54:02
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I'm just gambling with human life, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, just as in any other type of gambling. The only redeeming fact, is that I don't gamble with unwilling victims, nor with my life.

You know, I only play clean and safe.


brazzaboy
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12/04/2002
02:21:16
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Sorry Down To Earth, just thought I would get in there and correct you before that walking compendium known as Vargas made some off hand remark about your intelligence also. You sound like a good old chap.

Ze I like your logic stands out in a crowd keep it up. You sound like a good old chap too.


Down to Earth
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12/05/2002
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No worries Brazzaboy, thanks for coming to my rescue, I will keep an eye out for you. Just one thing, I’m a “chapess” by the way. Can I detect a hint of cockney in your posts?

cheerio



BRENT
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12/05/2002
08:59:10
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Brazzaboy: "Ze I like your logic stands out in a crowd keep it
up."

Huh? I pretty much agree with USCIT on the grammar/spelling
issue, but this has got to be the most unintelligible sentence
I've read on brazzil.com, and that's saying a lot. It's ironic that
you're commenting on logic when your sentence contains
none. Many who post here are Brazilian, and thus English is
not their first language. You are Canadian, however, so you
have no excuse.

Down to Earth: That's not cockney you detect—his English is
just so bad that it appears to be cockney. I'm posting this
message twice just for you.


BRENT
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12/05/2002
08:59:43
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Brazzaboy: "Ze I like your logic stands out in a crowd keep it
up."

Huh? I pretty much agree with USCIT on the grammar/spelling
issue, but this has got to be the most unintelligible sentence
I've read on brazzil.com, and that's saying a lot. It's ironic that
you're commenting on logic when your sentence contains
none. Many who post here are Brazilian, and thus English is
not their first language. You are Canadian, however, so you
have no excuse.

Down to Earth: That's not cockney you detect—his English is
just so bad that it appears to be cockney. I'm posting this
message twice just for you.


Down to Earth
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12/05/2002
09:22:23
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(angry)Brent:“That's not cockney you detect—his English is just so bad that it appears to be cockney. I'm posting this
message twice just for you.”


You mean unlike great “American” English?



Vargas
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12/05/2002
09:25:54
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So, down2earth, you're a chapess? Brent and I have been
emailing back and forth, speculating about if you're a hottie or
what. I mean, a little bit of bitch definitely comes out in your
posts, so you might be cute. If you want to come to Brazil with
us, you could save us some cash in the red light districts,
which would leave more money for party favors all around...


Charlevoix
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12/05/2002
09:31:43
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Cockfighting, do you mean animals or penises?

I bet you could have a blast in Brazil with either.



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12/05/2002
11:30:45
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If you wish to see animal fights I suggest you stay in America. It is not part of the local culture, so you'd have to export it if you wish to see some.


Reader
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12/05/2002
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This article is about cockfighting in Rio. It was published in January by No, an Internet publication, which had the best Brazilian journalists, but had to close down a few months ago.
The article informs that in the state of Rio alone there are 20,000 (twenty thousand) people breeding and raising fighting cocks.

The piece gives names, numbers and addresses to whoever has the illusion that briga de galo for being illegal is also non existent in Brazil.


Fortuna no galinheiro
[ 23.Jan.2002 ]

José Olympio Meyer <no@no.com.br>


José Olympio Meyer

Todas as manhãs, o aposentado Leoveral Pinto de Andrade (foto), 73 anos, acorda no horário das galinhas, para cuidar dos trinta galos que cria em sua casa, na Zona Oeste do Rio. Mas não são quaisquer galos. São aves de estirpe, grandes guerreiros que recebem tratamento especial: banhos, exercícios diários e mutilações que os tornem mais resistentes. São galos de briga, treinados à exaustão para atuar nas rinhas, embates sangrentos que geram muita polêmica entre protetores dos animais e apaixonados pelas lutas. Apenas uma sessão de apostas, num grande clube de galistas, no Rio, pode movimentar R$ 700 mil. É o que ocorre no Clube Privê, que funciona atrás do Autódromo de Jacarepaguá. Ali reúnem-se empresários, fazendeiros e alguns políticos diante de duplas de galos que se trucidam. Entre os defensores das rinhas estão figuras como o deputado estadual José Guilherme Sivuca (PPB) e o vereador Jorge Babu (PT), que refutam as acusações de maus-tratos aos animais feitas pela Suipa, a Sociedade União Internacional Protetora dos Animais. Um dos maiores criadores desses combatentes de penas é o marqueteiro Duda Mendonça, conhecido nas rinhas como Sansão.

Quando se fala em briga de galo, a discussão é grande. Quem combate invoca a legislação. Presidente da Suipa, Izabel Cristina Nascimento alerta que o artigo 32 da lei federal de Crimes Ambientais pode dar de três meses a um ano de cadeia, além de multa, para quem pratica abuso, maus tratos, fere ou mutila animais silvestres, domésticos ou domesticados. “Ela não entende nada de legislação, está completamente por fora”, contesta o deputado Sivuca (mais conhecido pela frase "bandido bom é bandido morto"), autor de lei estadual, sancionada pelo governador Marcello Alencar, em 1998, que autoriza a criação e a realização de exposições e competições entre aves de raças combatentes. Para Izabel, os galistas formam um clã sinistro e Sivuca é um dos líderes. “Ele consegue angariar um número gigantesco de votos assim. Quem maltrata os animais desse jeito não faz nada na vida. O problema dele é falta de cultura”, devolve a defensora dos animais. “O treinamento do galo é uma estupidez. Há vezes, no final das lutas, em que torcem o pescoço do galo e o matam”, revolta-se.

Mas Sivuca defende os galistas. Para ele, não há crueldade com os animais. “Os galos brigam entre si. Nós não incitamos os bichos, esta característica faz parte da natureza deles. Portanto, não há crime algum em colocar duas aves em uma rinha”, justifica. Segundo ele, a corrida de cavalos e a vaquejada são crueldades praticadas pelo homem contra o animal. “Ninguém vai brigar pelo direito dos animais no Jockey, pois o dinheiro fala mais alto”. É duro de acreditar, mas Sivuca garante que os galos de briga existes há 15 mil anos e sempre forneceram espetáculos para as civilizações antigas.

Existem rinhas de galo espalhadas por todo o estado do Rio de Janeiro. Desde cidades como Cabo Frio e Niterói até bairros da capital, como Bonsucesso, Santa Cruz, Campo Grande e Madureira. São mais de 90 mil apreciadores e 20 mil criadores distribuídos por todas as classes sociais. As rinhas são, na maioria, modestas, como a que funciona em Santa Cruz, área industrial na Zona Oeste do Rio. Modestas também são ali as apostas, que giram em torno de R$ 100 por pessoa e a entrada é gratuita, com restrições. Só entra quem já é conhecido no meio. Novato só entra se estiver acompanhado por um galista conhecido na rinha.
Mas os ricos e poderosos também botam dinheiro nos galos. Uma rinha de luxo, na Barra da Tijuca, reúne os galistas abonados. Para entrar no Clube Privê, além de estar acompanhado de um jogador antigo, é preciso deixar R$ 50 na entrada. Há cerca de 300 lugares, mas para sentar e pensar numa aposta deve-se tirar mais R$ 700 do bolso. Cercado de seguranças armados, o Clube Privê parece uma sala de espetáculos e oferece um restaurante de bom nível aos freqüentadores, que são desde políticos a empresários e fazendeiros. Morador do Leblon, o arquiteto Nelson Luiz Ramos defende as rinhas. “É um jogo de apostas, como acontece no Jockey, e que envolve muito conhecimento. E o nível é excelente”, afirma.

A primeira fase da aposta é o “topo”, na gíria dos galistas. Os donos dos galos que vão lutar determinam quanto o dono do perdedor terá de pagar ao da ave vencedora. Depois do “topo”, as apostas começam. Todas são feitas no grito. É o que vale. Não passa na cabeça de quem aposta desconfiar da palavra de quem aposta. Quem não a cumpre, fica marcado para sempre e, em algumas rinhas, tem o nome anotado num quadro à vista de todos. As mesmas pessoas, fora dali, podem não dar muito valor à palavra, mas na rinha é lei. No Clube Privê, onde a "lei" também excluiu o uso de qualquer tipo de câmera, o que mais se ouve são os gritos de “dez!”, “cinqüenta!”. São jogadores que apostam R$ 10 mil, R$ 50 mil de uma só vez e em apenas uma, das mais de 30 lutas que podem ocorrer num único dia de rinha. Programinha caro, não?

O investimento dos criadores de galo de briga gira em torno de R$ 1 mil por animal a cada ano. Até o frango crescer (em média um ano), o criador o mantém em gaiola individual, a partir dos dois meses e meio de idade. “A natureza deles já os induz à briga. Por isso, precisamos separar”, explica Leoveral. Mas a presidente da Suipa contesta: “Eles neurotizam os bichos. Os galos não nasceram para brigar desse jeito”. Depois do primeiro ano de vida, os atletas são introduzidos na preparação. Durante dois meses, os galos são treinados para o combate. A primeira fase do treinamento é a tosa das penas do pescoço, das coxas e sob das asas. As barbelas - uma pele que existe abaixo dos olhos - e as pálpebras são aparadas. Segundo os criadores, a tosa das penas é feita para deixar o galo mais ágil e leve. Já as barbelas são mutiladas com para que o adversário não as fira na briga. Os exercícios são levados a sério pelos criadores: para fortalecer as patas, o treinador, com uma mão no papo e outra no rabo, joga o galo para cima e o deixa cair. Um velho toca-discos de vinil pode servir de esteira para o animal aprimorar a musculatura das coxas. Para tornar a pele mais resistente às bicadas do adversário, a cada dois dias o galo passa por um banho bem esfregado com escova e sabão de coco. Depois, engaiolado, vai para o banho de sol. Nessa etapa, todo o cuidado é pouco, pois se o animal for esquecido pode morrer por insolação. Comida que é bom, apenas uma vez ao dia e a quantidade medida com rigor. Nada de excessos de peso que o tire da forma ideal para a luta. Os ingredientes da ração são caros e às vezes até importados. Boa parte do farelo é feita de ração para pombos, que vem geralmente da Bélgica.

A briga de galo tem lá suas regras, que são definidas pela Federação Esportiva e de Preservação do Galo Combatente do Estado do Rio de Janeiro. Preservação não é muito apropriado ao nome da federação, mas é o que estabelece que não podem ser confrontados galos que tenham peso ou altura muito desiguais. Por isso, antes da luta os galos são pesados e medidos. Só lutam entre si animais que tenham uma diferença máxima de 0,5 centímetro na altura e de 50 gramas no peso, para galos de até três quilos, e de 100 gramas para brigões acima de três quilos. Nas rinhas mais pobres, o galista pode escolher o adversário de seu atleta, mas nos lugares mais, por assim dizer, sofisticados, como o Clube Privê, existe um programa de computador específico que calcula o peso e a altura dos animais e define os adversários. “Isso é bom para não haver fraude. Já perdi muitas lutas com meus galos por falta de experiência em escolher o adversário certo. Quando não há o computador, o normal é fazer acordo”, revela o galista João Marques da Silva.

Em todo combate há um juiz, que examina as esporas, os bicos e a higiene dos galos. É quem anuncia em voz alta se um dos animais perdeu. O tempo da luta é de uma hora, com intervalos (refrescos) a cada 15 minutos. Para as lutas, as esporas do galo são cobertas com material plástico, além de haver protetores para os bicos. Um galo pode ganhar o combate por uma série de decisões do juiz, mas o mais freqüente é um dos lutadores botar o outro por terra com ferimentos visíveis. Também pode haver empate, quando nenhum dos dois consegue acertar um golpe dentro do tempo limite da briga, de uma hora. O regulamento prevê igualmente que a luta pode parar para o galo ser atendido a qualquer momento, por diversos motivos, desde ficar com a cabeça presa na própria asa até o protetor de bico cair ou quebrar. “Isto é mais uma prova de que não maltratamos os animais”, garante o Leoveral. Mas a Suipa não acredita nisso. Izabel afirma que quando um galo perde e está gravemente machucado, o comum para os galistas é sacrificar o animal.

Para olhos normais, que não se interessam pela atividade, não há dúvida de que existe crueldade. Mas há sinais de vem de longe. A Asian Gamefowl Society of Brazil, entidade que reúne galistas de todo o país, registra que o primeiro galo de briga deve ter chegado ao Brasil com os colonizadores, em 1530. Como os portugueses faziam muito comércio com a Ásia, galos da Índia, Malásia e Madagascar foram introduzidos aqui. Dois tipos ficaram mais conhecidos: o Asil e o Malaio. O peso médio desses lutadores varia entre três e quatro quilos. O deputado Sivuca diz que o Brasil tem a terceira melhor raça de galos do mundo, o que, na verdade, não tem a menor importância senão para os entusiastas desse espetáculo sangrento, que já foi proibido no governo Jânio Quadros. Mas, num país que tem como forte traço da cultura popular interpretar sonhos, para apostar no jogo do bicho, apesar de cruel não chega a ser estranho que se envolvam fortunas num espetáculo em que duas aves se dilaceram.





Vargas
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12/05/2002
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I'd like to thank Reader very much for the informative bit he
offered above. I can't read the article written in Brazil-speak,
but, according to Reader's quick summation, it looks like
Zee's feisty little comment on cockfighting << It is not part of
the local culture >> was blown out of the fucking water!
Hurrah! Zee is wrong again.


brazzaboy
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12/05/2002
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Actually Welsh, but lived in Croydon, sure you know where that is. Close enough.


brazzaboy
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12/05/2002
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Leeds
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12/05/2002
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you're welsh AND you lived in croydon? i'm sorry. talk about
shooting yourself in the foot twice. i thought you sounded like
a regular at the blue orchid. and I'll bet you're called "Gareth".



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Go on then smart guy, try finding yourself a cockfight.
Really well written this article, a shame that it sounds more like a forgery to incriminate politics, than anything of true value.

Actually it is very loaded on political names, more than it should to be considered a non biased opinion.



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12/05/2002
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On a diferent subject, why do you wish to come to Brazil with such types of pleasure in mind? As far as I reckon, you don't need to cross the equator to enjoy them.
Not that I'm saying anything against your country, but there is nothing here that you cannot find where you are. With the big plus, that you are at "home", with people that understand your language, and where at least gambling is legal.

Unless you value other types of tourism, I really think that you are wasting money and time on the ticket.

Don't forget, that we have our dreadfull "commies" which may try to share your wealth amongst our poor people...

hmmm yessss we wiiiish to sshhare youuur dollaars...


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12/06/2002
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Poor thingies...
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Vargas, I agree with Ze, it is very sad that you are going all the way to Brazil only to enjoy red light district and illegal gambling activities. If holiday trips with you are so “interesting” and “original”, it bores me to imagine the kind of conversation one could carry with the both of you.

The fact that you spend your time emailing on how hot or bitchy an unknown woman on internet can only mean one thing: that you two need to get a life.

So, I will pass on that offer thanks, but no thanks. Meeting meatheads is not exactly like looking for the Holy Grail.

Brazzaboy, a welsh man living in Croydon? LOL I mean when I used to live there it’s true that there were enough people from dodgy backgrounds; I mean look at me being Brazilian, probably the only Brazilian who’s lived in Croydon hehehe.



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12/06/2002
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OK, not quite sure what point you are making now.


Down to Earth
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No worries mate, you’ve probably been in Canada far too long to know all about the inner jokes.

;o)



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Ain't that the truth. This North American society is enough to de-stimulate any mind.


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12/06/2002
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W.T.F !!!!

I don't understand why a few people on this board have got their knickers all tied in a knot over what Brent and Vargas wish to do with their OWN money and time.

So Brent has scored a good chunk of cash, and now wants to indulge in a little dickey dippin on some 'gostosá' Brazilian pussy. So what! Are you his fucking mother, or what? It's really none of your beeswax! I mean, I myself personally wouldn't go his route, asking about red-light districts and illegal activity. Seems to me he may come back with some weird kind of disease he wasn't exactly bargaining for, or worse. But that's just me. He's an adult, and as such, you make your choices, and pay the price.

I suspect that along with sex, drugs, and gambling, he's probably also looking to do this in an EXOTIC location, with tropical weather, mucho fine beaches, great food, etc., etc., etc. Is that so hard to understand? In other words, since he wants to go for 6 months, he's probably looking for a little ADVENTURE. Nuff said.



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12/06/2002
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I'm not here to evaluate his morals. I just pointed out that if he is really interested in such affairs, he doesn't need to suffer of jet lag for them. There are a few "Mulata shows" in New York that are as cheezy as the ones you find here.

I'm not even expecting him to answer, it is just a retorical question.


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I truly hope that if their plan for their trip to Brazil is to engage in sexual tourism, that they ask for proof of age from all their vic . . . um conquests. Sexual tourism is frowned upon in Brazil and underage prostitution is a major problem.

Of course, if their plan is chase xoxota, perhaps they will get their just desserts.


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12/08/2002
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what bugs me is how they are so consipcuous about it. its though you all seem that the women in brazil are all prostitutes that will do anything just to sit next to a man with 5 dollars. thats not true. if you want a prostitute and gambling you could go to las vegas and do that. it also tells me you must be pretty bad looking if you need money just to talk a woman.

if your going to go to brazil and enjoy yourself fine, but the asumption that all the women will be in bed with you is wrong. $50,000 is 50,000, not half a million. dont act like your some rich guy when your not. sure its a little nice lump of money, but your not rich and the money will run out.

even if you were going to do these things, whats the need to openly proclaim them? if you go to brazil and enjoy yourself fine, but to openly denegrate the women of brazil and assume they will prostrate to you becasue you have a few nickels is wrong. are women attracted to money? yes some are, does that mean you necessarily wont that type of woman? from your comments i assume anykind that walks will satisfy you.


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Mooseboy84:

Amen!!!!!!


Adrianerik
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12/08/2002
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I AM one to evaluate their morals.

Stay home!

And if you do come, and make a mistake and show disrespect to the majority of decent women there and I'm around I'm going to embarass you. (just as I just had to do to the pot-smoking Swiss and Belgium who had the nerve to approach my two friends in Salvador as if they were prositutes.).

Brazilians are too nice to cuss your ass out...I am not.

Have a good....trip.


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12/08/2002
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Yeah, that´s right! Fuck you!! If´ve seen in the States, "decent" girls, dancing and making out wiht guys in clubs as I´ve never seen in Brazil. The girls there show their bubbies on the streets, wear tiny little skirts and have no respect for themselves at all.. Any girl that kiss any guy is gonna sleep with him right away... In Brazil things are different baby. We do respect people and LOVE here really exist!


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12/09/2002
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mooseboy, at the risk of sounding "consipcouos", (what the fuck?!), i dont see any reason why a man who won a lottery shouldnt be allowed to enjoy it. and what better a place to enjoy fifty grand than a place where he could basically buy the country.
and adrianerik, were you really that upset that the two european friends you made hit on your friends and not you? grow up, dude. (incidentally, vargas and brent, watch out, this person may, in fact embarrass you at some point. he sounds evil.) randy, mind your own fuckin business. no one likes an ankle-biter. im really not gonna comment on carlos' post, as he obviously typed it with his fuckin' nose.
let the replies begin, bitches.
by the way, this trip sounds more and more intriguing to me, i may e-mail you soon, vargas.



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12/09/2002
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Buckley,

Se quiser bosta de voce, espremeria sua cabeça.

This isn't the USSR and I am entirely free to say what I want, just as you are free to disagree with it.


blame Canada
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12/10/2002
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for those who are interested, there's loads of info about red light activities at www.clubhombre.com. it covers all of S. America, and has a lot of info about the scenes in Rio and Sao Paulo. Pictures and video too (gotta pay a small fee for that, tho).

Happy whoring boys!


Horndog
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12/10/2002
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Here's hoping you pick up something virulent!


Down to Earth
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12/10/2002
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Buckley, you might think of yourself as the sad man’s Che but at the end of the day if Brent or Vargas really wanted everybody to mind their own business they wouldn’t be posting their lottery earnings and fantasies in a public forum on the Internet (sounds a bit like a lack of friends in real life but never mind).

They just love it when everybody comments and criticize their posts, don’t you get it? It’s the whole attention-seeking thing. They love it nearly as much as you love to be the black sheep of the forum and “ankle-bite” everybody on this site. Wow! You can swear! How daring you are! What a big tough man hey?



Horndog
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>Buckley, you might think of yourself as the sad man’s Che but at the end of the day if Brent or Vargas really wanted everybody to mind their own business they wouldn’t be posting their lottery earnings and fantasies in a public forum on the Internet (sounds a bit like a lack of friends in real life but never mind).

You've got it absolutely right. They're engaging in a virtual circle jerk.


im2uAur2me
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12/10/2002
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C'mon gentlemen let's be serious. The entire literate population of Brazil is truly on trial here.



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12/10/2002
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The entire brazilian population doesn't care about this forum.


Im2uAur2me
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12/11/2002
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Then shut Ze' mouth


losman
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12/11/2002
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Be careful with the whores. There's a lot of them here that you wouldn't even know.


BRENT
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12/11/2002
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Thank you, Rude Canuk. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Geez, people, there are other things I plan to do while in Brazil
other than getting laid. But I don't need your sorry asses to
find info on them. The Lonely Planet guidebook will tell me all I
need to know about the Amazon, Sugarloaf, and whatever
other tourist shit I want to do.

It's clear that people here are jealous. And it's a shame. Oh
well. I'll be sure to give everyone updates when I get down
there. I'm sure the posts will start flying then.


Randy Paul
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12/11/2002
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Jealous of what? I'm building a house down there and will be there full time in a few years.


Inema
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12/11/2002
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Me happy it to be for you in Carnival 2003.
I am job in my country.
I love Brent and Vargas, we will sexy to you and me for I am Inema.

PS- I have sex for money. I represent all Brazilian women and their intentions.


Brent
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12/11/2002
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>>Jealous of what? I'm building a house down there and will
be there full time in a few years.<<

I wasn't really talking to you, Randy Paul, as you only said
"AMEN" and had a comment directed to Buckley. But the point
of this most recent post of yours -- to boast about building a
house in brazil and how you'll live there in a few years -- is
obvious. I just think you should've started a new thread, like I
did.




Horndog
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12/11/2002
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Brent and Vargas:

Enjoy your wankfest!


Patinho
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12/11/2002
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Inema--


Carlos, is that you again? you silly boy....


Vargas
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12/12/2002
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Hey... Sorry I disappeared for a while. Judging by the amount
of times I've seen my name in the posts above, it looks like a
few of you have missed me quite a bit. I love you too.

I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that between Brent
and I, we've managed to set a record on brazzil.com -- more
replies to our posts than to any other. It's nice to know you
care enough to keep writing, even if it's only to question why
people keep writing, people like you, people I love.

PS. Brent, man -- we are gonna get so LAID!!!!!


Vargas
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12/12/2002
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PPS. Brent, I got so excited about us getting so LAID that I
forgot to mention how mEsSduP we're gonna be!!! Hell yeah.


BRENT
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12/12/2002
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Adrianerik said: "Stay home! And if you do come, and make a
mistake and show disrespect to the majority of decent
women there and I'm around I'm going to embarass you."

Well, I am coming, and how about this -- I will plan to meet up
with you and I will personally beat your ass! I'm going to do
whatever the hell I please when I get down there, and there's
nothing you can do about it.

Vargas, I can't wait either. I'm quitting my job next Friday, and
you wouldn't believe how I'm planning to give my "notice."
Let's just say, I'm going to go out with a bang. I'm also trying to
get my VISA situation sorted. Apparantly you're not supposed
to stay more than three months at a time, and you can only
stay six months total per year. I'll find a way around this law if I
have to.




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12/12/2002
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I'll give you guys a tip: In Rio de Janeiro, go to an area called Cinelándia, stand in the middle of the street and shout "Sou disponível para sexo!" (I'm available for sex!) and you will have sex ways in ways you could never have imagined.


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12/12/2002
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brent-fuck the visa thing, if things get happy in my neck of the woods, and i meet you guys down there, i got ways around that stupid paperwork. and fuck you, horndog.


Horndog
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12/12/2002
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>and fuck you, horndog.

Buckley,

I'm man enough if you're woman enough, asswipe.

I'll be sure to have my friends in the favelas, the Polícia Militar, the Polícia Federal (they're the ones who handle immigration) and the Polícia Civil keep their eyes one for the three of you: Shemp, Larry and Moe.


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12/12/2002
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Visas
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>>brent-fuck the visa thing, if things get happy in my neck of
the woods, and i meet you guys down there, i got ways around
that stupid paperwork. and fuck you, horndog. <<

Sounds great, Buckley. And welcome, by the way. I got so
wrapped up in trying to defend myself against assholes like
Horndog, Adriandek, and Down to Earth that I forgot to
address your last reply. That'd be cool if you could meet us
down there, or take the same plane, whatever. The more the
merrier. Where do you live? Email me at
jizzmasterrio@yahoo.com and we can talk more in
depth about when we'll be there, flight info, and all that boring
shit.

I have a feeling we can avoid visas altogether, but I don't
know. I sized up the schmucks working at the Brazilian
consulate here last week, and I'm considering bribing one of
them if I have to. Anything longer than a tourist visa requires
me to get a criminal record report, which I simply refuse to do.
But if you know some way around all this hassle, by all means
let us know.




Horndog
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12/12/2002
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Brent, the three of you in this circle jerk are butt stupid. My wife has a cousin who works in the Brazilian Consulate and she knows the Consul General. I'll be sure to point this out to her so that she can point it out to him.

Let me see, you want to use women sexually, do drugs, get drunk, bribe government officials. Why not just stay home and join a fraternity?

>Anything longer than a tourist visa requires
me to get a criminal record report, which I simply refuse to do.

Yeah, they'll probably find your sex offender rapsheet.




Vargas
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12/13/2002
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<<Let me see, you want to use women sexually, do drugs, get
drunk, bribe government officials. Why not just stay home and
join a fraternity?>>

'Cause everyone knows that it's cheaper to use women
sexually, do drugs, get drunk and bribe government officials in
Brazil.

Dude, if your wife's cousin is Brazilian and he works for the
government, then he takes bribes. That's just how it works
down there. Everyone knows that. Oh yeah, and this
"Cinelandia" you mentioned... Despite the fact that you're
obviously familiar with the area and could probably "show us
a good time," I'm guessing it's a gay area and thus it's
definitely not the kind of good time we're looking for. I mean,
I'm open minded and all -- I'm not telling you not to enjoy doing
your thing. But like you said, we're looking to use WOMEN
sexually. If you have any good heterosexual advice, feel free to
offer it. Otherwise, stop sweating all over our plans.

Buckley, I'm with Brent. Welcome aboard.




Horndog
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12/13/2002
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Vargas,

I've already alerted the Consul General's office to your asshole behavior on this forum. Here's hoping that they keep their eyes out for Brent and that you guys, if you do get into Brazil, pick up a nasty disease and get a few vicious lessons taught to you.


Vargas
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12/13/2002
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So you're saying we should throw an extra $10 in our wallets
to cover the Consul General...


Randinho
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12/13/2002
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No, just keep that extra $10 to keep from being sodomized when they throw your ass in jail.


Brent
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12/13/2002
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>>I've already alerted the Consul General's office to your
asshole behavior on this forum.<<

Horndog, the fact that you believed me when I said I was going
to try and bribe a government official is hilarious in itself. I
don't know if you're more pathetic or more stupid. There are
signs all over the consulate office saying what attempting a
bribe will cost someone.

But by all means, if it makes you feel better about yourself,
alert your friend about me. We'll see who gets his tourist visa.
I plan to go get my visa at the beginning of January, and I will
be in Brazil sometime in Feb. or March.


Horndog
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12/13/2002
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>Horndog, the fact that you believed me when I said I was going to try and bribe a government official is hilarious in itself.

Whether I believe you or not is irrelevant. I just hope that the consulate believes you.


Vargas
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12/13/2002
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Randpatinazzahinoboy: Why is it you guys are always talking
about sodomy? Horndog was talking about that too. Brent and
I are not interested in homosexual activities in Brazil, though I
have no problem with whatever you like. It's just that I'm not
into it. Anyway, why would we go to jail? I'm hoping some of
the cops can turn us onto some of the better places to party.
For enough cash, I'm sure they'll help us out. If nothing else,
cash will keep us jail-free. Buckley knows some guys who
escaped "the slammer" in Manaus in this manner, so it's not
all bullshit. Thanks for caring enough to write.


Horndog
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12/13/2002
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>Anyway, why would we go to jail?

There's probably not a server with enough hard disk space to catalog the reasons.


Adrianerik
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12/13/2002
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@brent - don't really have time to follow this thread.

But don't trouble your little heart over me. I have very little time to worry myself over pot-bellied, loser, bottom-feeders, trashy dregs of American society who exploits the disadvantaged of other societies.

Shit happens. I realize that.

Really have other fights to fight in Brazil. Until then I hold my nose to your ilk until a better day comes for the daughters and mothers who, for lack of a dollar, degrade themselves in Ipanema, Copacabana, Pelourinho, etc.

The worst of my trips to Brazil is the flight. After I subtract the Brazilians going to see families, and the few Americans with Brazilians mates and friends who have a vested interest in the progress of Brazil I have to then tolerate for 7 hours the motley mob of rejects, impotents and other losers and underachievers of American life.

So it goes. Shit happens.

So make your trip. If there is a God then perhaps you'll meet the three gorgeous mulattas in Copacabana. They're known for their ability to spike men's drinks and separate men from their money and/or lives.

Wouldn't that be lovely. $50,000 could buy a lot of milk.

ps - You definitely DON'T want to meet me.

Peace! Out!



Patinho
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12/13/2002
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Vargas-

I have posted 2 times about this thread:

"Man if this is true, then consider you lucky and me jealous.
Congrats Brent.
Buy yourself a laptop (not to be confused with lap dance) and don't forget about us."

and

"Inema--
Carlos, is that you again? you silly boy...."

In what way does either of those post have to do with sodomy? You addressed your post to the name "RandPATINazzahiNOboy". So I assume you were refering to me, at least in part... why bring me into this? I was the first to post about it, I said my peace and left.



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Patinho, don't take offense. I've got no beef with you. I was referring to Randinho -- the "throw your ass in jail" commentator. Sorry 'bout the mixup.


Patinho
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hehe.... my mistake. It's cool.


the real Carlos
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12/15/2002
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to the fake carlos...your a wanker...not got the guts or imagination to invent your own fake name?

to the assholes that wish these wanker tourists get a STD(s) because they want to fuck whores. And to the arrogant busy bodies that assume that most whores generally do what they do because they are incapable or unwilling to change their lives...return to your caves.
Lightbulb momemt!!!! some men like to fuck!!!
Some men like to fuck different women often???
Some women like to fuck, fuck different men and get paid for it!!!
Wow, what a conmcept!
No girlfriend,no wife, no alimony, no un-wanted children, no lies....goddamnit whats the worls coming to???!!!
Just so happens Brazil is known worldwide for the un-common attitude of it's sexual behavior.

Women parade nude every year at a carnival in front of strangers, women wear very tight revealing clothes, prostituion laws are not aggresively enforced, early term abortion law not enforced, rampant AIDS, 90% claiming to be Catholic while not even adherring to that "loose" faith. Brazil is the number 2 sexual tourism destination worldwide for a reason...apathy by the population over the lawless immoral behavior by those that believe this way and justification of the monies brought in by the participants and benefactors of those that justify the sluttiness of their women.

Not to mention, the level of degenerate behavior of the native Brazilian mens attitudes towards their own women. Why should estrangeiros respect them more than their own families ?

Fuck em & leave em, just pay your bill & treat them relatively well (especially you Germans out there, ya'll have a bad reputatioin).




Down to Earth
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12/16/2002
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My! after a week and you guys are still exposing your lives on the Internet and arguing about moral issues.

Hasn’t anyone got the point yet? We are not commenting on Vargas, Brent and whoever else's trip because they are being “immoral”. It’s because we are giving them the attention they crave and just keep on embarrassing themselves for everyone to see. Apart from sucking up to Brent so that he can get a few bucks,a few lines and a few mulatas, Vargas says that the reason why he is going to Brazil to get whores and dope is because it’s cheaper. It not only says that he is poor but that he is certainly desperate. At least Brent seems to be going to enjoy “Brazilian” women specifically but what we can clearly see is that he also has a hidden agenda. I think that what he is really looking forward in Brazil is “love” and “friendship” even if it means “bribing” people to make friends, hence all bragging about how much money he’s got and what he plans to be doing in “Brazil”. It’s classic, it’s like the reject kid throwing an openhouse party to become what everyone is talking about in high school.

The fact that he has to come to Brazzil’s forum to get friends with whom he can enjoy his Holiday without having to pay them (very unlikely with Vargas around), unlike the “whores” hehehe. But he is not quite so confident about himself so he still feels the need to say to Vargas “be my friend pleazzzz I’ve got 50k”. So we should not be so unfair to Brent, but Vargas tut tut tut shame on you! Will not make friends by sponging on them…



Down to Earth
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12/16/2002
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Bless his little heart
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The Real Carlos
“Lightbulb momemt!!!! some men like to fuck!!!
Some men like to fuck different women often???
Some women like to fuck, fuck different men and get paid for it!!!”

Maaan you’re intelligent, wow! Did you find out all of this by yourself? Unfortunatelly for you, it didn’t work. Yeah some men like to fuck different women, no need to pay for one, go to a bar, a rave, a disco, a fetish, a web cam chat room, club or a swinger’s party and as “often as you like”. Some men like to fuck often… don’t need to go to Brazil for that.

Some women like to fuck and get paid for it. Yeah “some” maybe first class escorts or geisha but not your average Brazilian prostitute, if “fucking ugly gringos for money” was out of choice for them, every single Brazilian would be a prostitute including middle class ones.

If parading half-naked at the carnival means, “I’m a prostitute, fuck me” to you; you should be locked-up and kept away from women. Rampant AIDS in Brazil is not because of the sexuality, it’s because of the “unofficial unprotected promiscuity, prostitution and homosexuality” that goes around and the exorbitant price of condoms. Brazil is a huge sexual tourist destination because of what Vargas said, it CHEAP and like in Thailand and many other third world countries, sex with children and underage prostitutes is overlooked if you've got dollars.



thefake
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I have no idea what the fuck any of you fools are blabbering about.
Who the fuck is Carlos, I was "Labeled" that by some fucking dim-wit hiding behind a stupid screen name. You are all more worthless than the bit of shit I spray when I fart. I never attempted to be Carlos nor do I wish to be. I am "Inema" I am "IM2UasUR2ME" because I don't take this shit seriously nor do I take your country seriously. "Down to Earth" you are nothing more than a stupid bitch with a big shitty chip on her shoulder who has probably been fucked like a whore her entire life.
Aside from Brent and Vargas who continue to be comical you all need to find a better cause to fill your feeble time. Buckley is a fucking pussy, Jeff, and whoever stole his name for this site. The guy couldn't even die creatively. Brazil is a place we should all go to party and throw our trash around. And given the chance, we will impregnate your women with our arrogant American baby-batter, until every child has American eyes.

Your sons and daughters will all sell their bodies for cheese if they had the chance.


Melynda
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12/17/2002
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You sound like a bright and moral person. Are you a woman or a man? I am dirt poor in the US but plan to move to Brazil with my $600. a month income in June. :-) Don't want to go for the gambeling or the sex, just want to help some kids and learn some new things. I take it you have traveled to Brazil? Want to chat sometime? I am 24 and have a 2-year-old daughter.


Melynda
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12/17/2002
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I can be reached at RememberYourSoul@aol.com


Down to Earth
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Thefake, if you need therapy (or attention) I’m sure that Vargas could put you through someone.

Question:"How does a whore get fucked?"


brzl
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12/18/2002
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/////Question:"How does a whore get fucked?///////

you should know- why dont you tell us?????


Down to Earth
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12/18/2002
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Brzl, are you curious about that too? I was asking that question to the guy who says that he sprays bits of shit when he farts. Quite repulsive, I must say… Thefake, you need to get that sorted by a doctor or it might become quite embarrassing in the long run, hopefully there will not be any “unfortunate” servant to wash your dirty underwear in the US.

Melynda I’ve replied to your post in a less “vulgar” topic, with people so obscene around us we could (literally) do with a breath of fresh air somewhere else.



Vargas
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12/18/2002
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Down2earth -- The sheer volume of Pap in your pseudomoral
assumptions is becoming boring because you're taking this
off-topic. The topic is Brent and my wanting to get laid and
meSsDDuppp in Brazil. As for who's dropping coin, logic
dictates that if I can afford my own plane ticket to Brazil, I can
afford the $10 prostitutes. And anyway, not that it's any of your
business, but though I'm not Donald Trump, money isn't a
problem for me. The question is more of a "bang for the buck"
kind of thing. Why buy a beat up Chevrolet like yourself for $50
when I can get a Porsche for $10? Or even for a wheel of
cheese, as thefake has suggested? Anyway, you said it
yourself -- your constant presence on this board just gives us
the attention we crave. It's really great to have you around.
That said, as for embarrassing oneself: Is it more
embarrassing to tell "vulgar" jokes in a locker room, or to
stand in a locker room and whine about all the dicks hanging
out there? You're the one who should be embarrassed. If
you're going to stay here, then you should talk about getting
LAID and getting MeSSduP in Brazil. Otherwise, take your own
advice and get your tea-and-cookies offended-at-vulgar-topics
foul-air-breathing ass to another thread.


Melynda
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12/18/2002
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That was worth a laugh. :-) Sorry, down to earth, but it was funny. Not everyone wants advice. It was nice advice you gave me, assuming I had not thought of it before though. BUT! I'd like to say, why is everyone talking about prostitutes in Brazil? I hear there is a lot of sex to be had in Brazil and you don't have to pay for it. My best friend is Brazilian and he says if you are American in most cities in Brazil, the women will want you anyway, so before you guys go throwing money at hookers, try to flash some of your all American charm at them first. With money to spend for partying in Brazil, I doubt anyone will have a bit of a problem getting laid to the fullest.


Vargas
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12/18/2002
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Melynda -- Whoever you are, you're a beautiful person. Most of
the talk about hookers -- MOST of it -- and bribes, etc., is a
bunch of garbage. We're going down there to rage and have a
good time, wherever we can find it. No holds barred, y'know?
But your comments are well-taken. Thanks for having a better
perspective than DownOnEarth.



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12/18/2002
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Sincerely though avoid entering a favela without inside invitation, your life is not worth the gamble.


Down to Earth
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12/19/2002
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Vargas I’m not offended by what you say, I find it hilarious and “sad”. Geee if I was offended by anything in this forum I wouldn’t be writing here and especially replying to your inane posts. I just thought that it might offend Melynda. But I must say the fart stuff; there was no need for that, it was really low regardless of how funny one tries to be. So if you guys want to continue to talk toilet stuff I’m out otherwise I shall continue to make life harder for u and ur prostitutes.You have to be careful because you are becoming a really easy target. You have nothing but sexist replies to defend yourself. The classic: “you are a woman and you are not nice to me so I'm gonna call you a whore…”.tut tut tut not very impressive Vargas, even Brent is doing much better than you are.

Melynda I’m REALLY sorry for having given you advice. How nasty and insensitive of me!! I’ll make sure I just hand out your email/photo to as many people on the net as I can next time. LOL joking! But...come on?

But you are right about this prostitute talk, it’s kind of weird, but if you read some of the previous posts you might understand a little. I know that anywhere, above all in Brazil most people don’t need to pay for sex but it looks like Vargas has some difficulties to get it otherwise. I don’t know why, I mean I’ve seen really ugly men that had women and stuff. But maybe is that even when paying to get laid in the US he cannot get away with the dodgy “illegal” stuff he can with Brazilian prostitutes if he gives a “tenner “ to the right person. So he’d rather spent his 7/11 wage on a plane ticket (which could indeed pay for quality prostitutes even in the USA) to go to Brazil where his anonymity will be kept, he won’t be laughed/pointed at nor put in prison for his obscure practices.



Melynda
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12/19/2002
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D2E, I think you are bitter and I don't know why. First of all, when a guy pays for sex, he's not paying for JUST the sex, he's paying for the girl to go away in the morning. Now, that's not how I work and it's probably not how you work, but who gives a heck what this guy wants to do with HIS money.....weather he won the lotto, was a lawyer or actually DOES work at 7/11? And if he does something stupid, gets a disease, gets killed or worse, put into a Brazilian jail cell, well, that was all his choice. But to me, it sounds like he just wants to find fun. He wants to find something different. What's so wrong with that? I am going to Brazil with TOTALLY different ambitions, but nonetheless I am going to see and experience and pacify a need I have to learn new things and enjoy the wonders of a new world.....to me at least. Who cares if he's not funny, who cares if he's not tactful, who cares about a little crass fun amongst men who are excited? Of course, I don't enjoy meaningless sex, but hey, this post wasn't made for me alone.


Patinho
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Melynda-

You are truly a breath of "fresh air" that we desperately need on this forum. Welcome! I would like to hear more about your plans in Brazil. The what, when and where... if possible. And good luck to you, I hope you find what you are "looking" for.


Down to Earth
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Melynda, I don’t get this bitter thing. I don’t think you understand. I’m not protesting against prostitution. On the contrary I find it outrageous that prostitution is considered a crime in so many countries and that our tax payer’s money is going into arresting prostitutes and their clients instead of murders/robberies/rapes etc.... Men do not only pay women to go in the morning, is not as simple as that since casual sex is easy to get anyway, but I’ve already wrote my points on that subject. It seems that you have not read all the posts about this topic, this is only a pointless, sometimes funny, sometimes boring argument I am having with Vargas for a while and I really don’t give a monkey about what he does with his chorizo. I comment on his posts simply because he feels the need to splash it all over the forum and if one does that it is because he wants the attention, and even he admits it. So why does it matter so much that I reply to his posts?

Anyway again I whish you good luck in your trip – say hello to all those tough little Paulistas out there.



Tuxedo
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12/24/2002
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I live in Brazil and I've posted some information on another
thread to help Brent and Vargas on their trip. I hadn't read this
thread until recently, and I think it's ridiculous.

Someone should bother to point out to Down To Earth that she
seems to be the only one having an argument and that, as she
tells above, it is definitely boring. From what I can tell, Brent
and Vargas are just having fun.

And for the record, Vargas didn't call her a whore or talk about
farts. That was the fake and brzl. <<Tut tut tut not very
impressive.>> Down To Earth really has a problem with
Vargas and I think it's funny that she keeps giving him the
attention. He says he wants it, and she gives it to him. It looks
like maybe he got to her.

Maybe Brent and Vargas are easy targets, but Down To Earth
is an even easier target except no one cares to attack it.

That's all I'm going to say about this. Ciao.




Dempsey
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12/26/2002
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I was told the same thing that Ze said: Do NOT go into a favela without invitation. I did this and was lucky not to get mugged, so I am told. But I was also told that being a gringo is not necessarily a death sentence, as the people in the favelas do not want to kill tourists and call down the wrath of the USA upon themselves; they would rather mess with a fellow favela denizen. Who knows -- this is just what my friend in Vidigal told me.


Down to Earth
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1/01/2003
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Awwwwwwhhh...
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Tuxedo are you upset because I’m not giving YOU the attention?

If you want me to notice you, don’t start on the jealousy thing tut,tut,tut.

As for the fart talk, you have completely lost the plot. Unless it is an excuse to get at me…

Awwww I know you all can't get enough of me … *chortle*

Dempsey, you should try it out and if you come back alive, just give us a shout!



Brent
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1/02/2003
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Down to Earth -- doing your best once again to make everyone
in this forum HATE you. And well done, by the way. I'm a big
boy, Dempsey. I can handle myself in the favelas. Thanks for
the info though.

Well, Vargas, I ain't workin' no more. Instead of quitting how I
told you I was going to though, I got laid off. This way I can
draw unemployment. The day is approaching! In less than 2
months we will be in Brazil! Still gotta get my visa though.
Buckley -- e-mail me soon and tell me what you know about
the avoiding-paperwork thing. You have Vargas' e-mail
address too.


buckley
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1/02/2003
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hey brent,
you know, those fuckin people sometimes. i actually called my "friend" down there last fuckin thursday. are things really that bad down there where this fuckin prick has to charge 500 bucks each "item"? i mean, for christs sake, all im tryin to do is score some cheap hooch and road snatch, if ya know what i mean.
dont worry, guys, i still got some calls to make.
ciao


Down to Earth
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Hmm looks like Brent has missed me a bit over Christmas, you’ve definitely come back big time as I can see. Trying to be all tough hey? Is this your new year's resolution? Where is your side Kick, Vargas? Haven’t you managed to keep him as your friend then?

Where is your side Kick, Vargas? Haven’t you managed to keep him as your friend then?


Brazilian Girl
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1/05/2003
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Rio and Sao Paulo are a "must see", but Brazil has way more to offer!
Paradisiac beaches in Northeast coast like in Fortaleza (who have parties, places to go 24/7, and had its monday ellected the Wildest monday in the world by Times Magazine), Salvador with Capoeira, Bahianas. and the marvelous Amazonia region wich was an adventure even for me!
Pantanal Matogrossensse is a must see as well, with it's flooded forests!
Oh, and if you go to Brazil in July, Fortaleza had the biggest Carnaval out of time of Brazil, gathers around 2 million people! And since the city lives out off turism things are very cheap and people very cozy and nice!
Go , have fun and get ready to fall in love!


Brazilian Girl
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Cockfighting is BIG TIME ILLEGAL, as any kind of gambling! Honey take care, cons in Brazil are going to love a "gringo" ass! Whatch out!


Brazilian Girl
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Brasileiros, nao fiquem chateados se esses paspalhoes falam em comer nossas garotas! Nos sabemos o quanto eles vao se "ESTREPAR" no Brasil!
Vao amar, mas nao vao ter ideia do quando vao estar pagando a mais pelas coisas!


BRENT
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Horndog, you will be happy to know I got my visa without a
hitch. I'm set to go to Brazil in about four weeks. Starting in
Rio, then playing it by ear. We (myself, Vargas, and Buckley)
are probably going to Sao Paulo and Recife, thanks to Tuxedo.
Also Manaus. Anyone know anything about Manaus?

Vargas: Where the fuck are you? I need to know if you're still
going to meet me in Miami, or if you're just going to meet me in
Rio. Either way is cool, but I need to know. I think your email
server is screwed up again. Just post here or IM me.

Buckley: What did you ever find out? Did you talk to those guys
about the visa stuff?


Fernando B
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Vem, mermão, os ome tá tudo te esperando, se liga! Traz bastante vaselina prá bizuntar o rabito, o brioco, o furico. Tá tudo dominado!


Information
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Cockfighting Rooster Kills Handler
Tue Jan 14,10:52 AM ET

ZAMBOANGA, Philippines - A rooster about to be set loose for
a bout in a crowded cockfighting arena attacked its handler
with the razor-sharp steel spikes strapped to its legs, killing
the stunned man, police said Tuesday.

The gaffs hit the man's thigh and groin as the bird made one
rapid shuffle, causing him to bleed profusely Sunday before a
large crowd of shocked spectators, police investigator
Johnny Muhajil said.

The man died while being brought to a hospital in Zamboanga,
a bustling port city about 530 miles south of Manila, he said.

Cockfighting is an extremely popular gambling sports in the
Philippines, especially in rural areas.



buckley
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that guy must have had one huge cock.
all kidding aside, fellas and bitches, (i dont want to exclude down on earth,) prepare to be happy. all those years of shit jobs ive done for people are finally paying off. i spoke to this guy, and after weeks of trying to get in touch with him, (hes a miserable bastard, i must say,) he starts cryin the fuckin blues about keeping his import/export business afloat. this is where it gets tricky. but you let me worry about that once we get down there. the flood gates are open, boys. i figure we can relax for a few days, drink, screw around, and if any of those people think that they're gonna get one over on the gringos, ill show those arrogant little bitches what living in the red hook section of brooklyn has taught me. brazil's got pitboys? i've got good ol' schoolyard ass-kickin. not that im a promoter of violence, but im getting a lot of animosity from some of the "people" on this forum.
so, brent and vargas, if you'll have me, and the carte blanche i can provide for you and your trip, im glad to help out.
party like mutha fuckin rockstars.
lata.


Lisa
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Wait your from Red Hook? It seems to me Bucky your gonna get your ass thrown in jail in Brazil. Oh and I'd check-out the extridiction laws between Brazil and the United States before landing yourself in jail getting fucked three ways from Sunday. You have a warped imagination. I wouldn't fuck with those woman over there, not like that. They have a brother or two in one of those favela gangs. Take it easy and lay off the male bravado we can all read you have a dick.


buckley
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listen lisa,
my e-mail address is available, if you want to discuss your crush on me in private, its all good. im kinda shy about girls coming on so strong. if you're down there, and you'd like to meet, you know what to do. otherwise, keep your fuckin mouth shut.
i love you too.


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