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12/16/2002
19:30:55
Subject: Trying to become legal in Brasil
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I am an American currently living in Brasil illegally - I've been
here for almost 2 years on a tourist visa. I'm trying to
research the possiblities I may have to become legal here.

I've been told that Fernando Henrique granted amnesty
during both of his 4 year terms. I'm trying to find out how I can
monitor this issue here in Brasil ... to find out 'if' this might
happen with Lula and 'when' it might happen. I'd also like to
know if he grants amnesty would it include Americans
currently living here illegally. Once it's granted does one just
simply step up and fill out the paper work?

On the other side of the coin. If Lula doesn't grant amnesty I'd
like to learn about all possible ways an American citizen can
live in Brasil legally ... with the ability to obtain a CPF, etc..
Any advice on where to acquire reliable information? At this
point I'm only aware of the following options: become a
student, get married, or get a work visa.

I'm also wondering if anyone has true, solid knowledge as to
what I would face should I leave Brasil to visit the States. I've
been told I'd 'probably' face a fine upon my return to Brasil,
but I'd like to know if there's a chance I won't be let back into
the country because I've so blantantly ignored the Visa
terms. I have been reluctant to temp fate as I have
established a home here and it wouldn't be remotely funny to
be turned back at the airport! No one I know here seems to be
able to give me a straight answer.

Any information and/or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
S


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12/16/2002
21:24:25
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Hi, S

I've been researching ways to live in Brazil legally, because I've never gotten a straight answer on the overstaying-tourist-visa route. I know two people who were able to stay in Brazil for more than six consecutive months: One got amnesty in 1998, and the other got a work visa. From what I've heard, there's no way to tell if Lula will grant amnesty. You're down there, so just keep your ears open. As far as I know, it happened in 1988 and 1998. If you'd like to ask someone more about his amnesty experience, visit this Web site: http://www.geocities.com/teachinginbrazil/

As far as legal routes, the options you list are basically the only ones, and you must get those visas in the U.S., not in Brazil. Unfortunately, you'll have to come back to go through the process, and that's where you'll get into trouble for overstaying your tourist visa. I've never talked to anyone who has overstayed a tourist visa, and the information I've gotten on penalties is inconsistent, ranging from mild fine to being banned from ever entering Brazil again. If I were you I would not try to come back until you have an answer you're satisfied with, especially since you've grown roots and want to return.

I'm not much help, I realize -- I'm just relaying what I've heard. If you do figure out a way to get back to the U.S. with no problems, I can give you information on a relatively easy and completely legal way to stay in Brazil for up to two years. E-mail me for more information at the address provided on the left.



Patinho
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12/16/2002
21:45:28
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Joe-

I know the post wasn't speaking to me, but I'd like to know this "easy" way to live in Brazil legally for up to 2 years.

feel free to e-mail me:

Patinho__@hotmail.com


Joe1
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12/17/2002
01:04:53
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Go to the US Consulate and apply for a new passport, than start from scratch.


brazzaboy
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12/17/2002
02:59:36
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I would like to know how you live easy in Brasil also.


Joe1
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12/17/2002
04:39:01
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brazzaboy
you are talking to me?
If so, what is your problem?


Pilot
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12/17/2002
07:16:40
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If you are scared about being banned from returning to Brasil, why don't you think about coming back aboard a private charter? Sure would clear up a great deal of troubles.

Contact me and we can work out a deal.


The Clown
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12/17/2002
08:15:35
Ladies and Gents!!!! We now have our own private
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shmuggler :)

Line up citizens of the First World! You shall be sneaked into the Third World Hell on board of private jets, and you can have your deal too ;)


brazzaboy
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12/17/2002
14:24:58
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Well Joe I was following inPatinho question. I have NO problemo dude, you seem to though. I was not particularily speaking to you. K dude.


brazzaboy
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12/19/2002
05:16:06
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You don't have to pass through any sort of customs check on a private charter??????


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