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Curious_L
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10/02/2002
19:22:33
Subject: PRO LULA OR WHAT? TELL ME...
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I'm curious to know how do you all feel how Lula will do as Brasil's new president. This is open to anyone who feels like sharing whatever is on your mind.


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10/02/2002
19:51:42
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John Miller
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10/09/2002
06:44:16
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I dont think Lula is bad as the right wing American press makes him out, at the same time he is not going to achieve anywhere near what he has promised.

I will say this, he has learned that left wing politics does not win elections or keep you in power. So he has studied the methods of Clinton, Blair, Schroder, Hawke, etc. (not that much to recommend amongst this bunch either I know). So he knows he cant go to far leftist in his actions.

The big challenge is to take on the Government Employee pension system; an underfunded time bomb, unfortunately he draws a lot of his vote from fat cat government workers, so it will be hard to take this one on. But the pension funds and labour laws desparately need reforming, along with many other labour reforms to enable more flexible employment. I do support his move to increase the minimum wage; it is a disgrace in Brasil, but at the same time employers need more flexibility in the working arrangement they have with employees and not be hamstrung with so many labour laws. ( e.g. 13 mthly salaries per yr, 30% holiday loading, 9% funding of Pension fund, high penalties for terminating employment, labour courts stuffed with softies).
It is time for a change, a breath of fresh air. As my wife Marta said, "John, Brasilians have been f...ked by the center right/left for the last 8 years, let us change positions and partners and be f....ked by the left! for a while" Fine turn of expression I thought.

Sad to see the likes of Jader get voted back in; these theives need to be removed from the system; this really sends the wrong message. I just cant see how someone like Jader who has been arrested and charged with corruption and stealing (and not wanting to convict a person before they have had a trial), the guy has been well and truly caught with his hands in the cookie jar and his nose in the trough. How can this guy still be popular with his constituents, unless its more pork barrelling and vote buying? I dont get it.
Can someone explain?




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10/09/2002
09:02:15
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well, lots of people in Brazil seem to blame the US, the IMF, the world bank, globalization, etc. etc. for all of Brazil's problems. If Lula wins, it seems possible that people who think this way could be in for a harsh reality check. When his misguided policies sink your country even urther, who will you blame then?




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