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Tony Verley
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10/10/2002
16:52:18
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What is this about a communist militant trained in Cuba, aided by the communists Colombia has been fighting, trying to take over Brazil? ( Brazil is a good Christian Country, with the largest statue of Jesus I know of). Communism cannot be allowed to take over there (and one of the first things Castro did after he sold Cuba to the communists was to line the preachers up and shoot them down in cold blood. The statue of Jesus must not be replaced by a statue of a Castro-like dictator). We all know it is easier to deal with things early than it is to let it spead, deepen, etc, and we shouldn't have let Cuba fall to communism to begin with. (There were many things we should have dealt with earlier.. but that is one of them.) We must help Colombia stop the communists, we must free Cuba and stop that terrorist Castro; and America, the people of Brazil, and the countries making up the rest of this hemisphere must not let Brazil, nor any country in this hemisphere, fall to communism. Neighborhood watch must be in effect, we must be involved, and the good must be strong and awake. The talks and work within this hemisphere that were going on before 9/11 are very important, and those must continue. South America, like America and the other parts of this hemisphere, is also a good source of non-terrorist oil; protecting South American freedom, along with our other friends and allies (good neighborhood watch), protects everyone.

and the communist goods crossing American borders and being sold in American stores MUST be stopped. It goes against everything America stands for, and it sends money and jobs to things America is against (just as with terrorist oil). It hurts us all. Best case scenerio? This whole hemisphere banning communism and communist goods. (and good international anti-sweat-shop laws would be good too.) We must stop building monsters while the good suffer, and we do have a say pertaining goods which cross our borders, and we have a say in international trade laws.

(pertaining the Middle East, along with other concerns there... here is a fact: The Middle East learned oil from America (which I believe began in Pennsylvania), but she failed to learn all that America had to teach her. Had the Middle East done oil as Kansas does, along with other improvements, and taking out bad guys, (there are many things wrong with Islamic Government), there would not have been the Iraq/Kuwait War. It would have simply been a case of one private company slant-drilling another private company's oil, and it could have been settled in court.)

Sincerely,

Tony Verley
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Moron Detector
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10/10/2002
19:10:28
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Get a grip. If Lula takes office it will be because he is elected. While he's clearly a leftist, he's not a communist

He was also not trained in Cuba. Perhaps you should get your information from somewhere other than the John Birch Society. Brazilians have every right to determine who will lead them. The Cold War is over - get over it and pull your head out of your ass. Your post may be one of the thoroughly stupid posts I have ever read on this forum - and that's saying a lot.


Randy Paul
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10/11/2002
06:17:58
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While I would not resort to the quality of discourse that Moron Detector used, it is worth noting that Mr. Verley's view of history is misguided at best and borders on the delusional.

Say what you will about Lula - and there are any many things about his positions that I disagree with - he has ALWAYS worked within a democratic system to achieve his goals and for that he is to be praised.

Indeed, much of the history of Latin America has shown that it is the extreme right wing that has chosen nondemocratic means to achieve their goals: Chile, Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguay, Uruguay, Guatemala and Nicaragua being the most glaring examples and Castro's Cuba being the most glaring example of an extreme left-wing use of nondemocratic means.


eurokid
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10/11/2002
08:51:07
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Couldn´t have said it better, finally something we agree on.


an observer
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10/11/2002
10:55:27
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A pure Democracy that is un-restrained rule of law is : ……… Marxist Communism.


Randy Paul
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10/11/2002
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You're putting two and two together and getting five. Lula has always played by the rules. There is absolutely no reason to believe that if he should be elected that wou would change.

You might want to acquaint yourself with this: http://www.oas.org/OASpage/eng/Documents/Democractic_Charter.htm

It is the Democratic Charter of the OAS adopted on September 11, 2001. By your (il)logic, all the signatories are Marxists. Get real.


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10/12/2002
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Do not believe this man's poast!! It is democratic propaganda!!! I am good man. You do not want government that gives you freedom of choice, or a good paycheck for honest labor, you do not want a government that allows you to do what you want or say what you want, or lets you go anywhere you want, you do not want a government that gives welfare to needy (and un-needy) people, These things are bad and are from an evil country. Stay here with your loving king.... errr... uuum ruler, and I will allow you to always be poor and live in fear! Please my fellow communi... uumm.... people.... support me... or I kill you.

If you disagree with any part of this post, please report to the nearest military instalation for "enlightenment".


Randy Paul
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10/12/2002
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Did you go off your meds again?


brazzaboy
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10/12/2002
14:04:45
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I consider myself a communist. I don't consider states such as Cuba, the Old Soviet Union or China to be communist states. They are elitist states where only the elite in society whether it be in sports, medicine, politics etc actually are treated as somebody the rest are nobodys in their own land. True comminsism is where there is no distinction shown, no matter what your status in life might be. The original poster bought in religion and Jesus, well in my opinion there is nobody on this earth now or ever has been with a more pure communist philosophy than Jesus. Now as for Lula, I don't know much about him. I have heard he's a hot head and has to have his advisers restrain him more often than not. So be it. Brazil had the military rule them for years then a succesion of corrupt presidents. The people have spoken only time will tell if Lula joins the latter group or if he can bring a little stability to the greatest country on this planet (my beliefs).


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10/14/2002
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YANKEES DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT COMMUNISM, CUBA ISN'T COMMUNIST OR SOCIALIST, URSS WASN'T COMMUNIST OR SOCIALIST!!!

USA IS A FACIST COUNTRY, BUT IS OBSCURE AND MANIPULATOR!!!


Randy Paul
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10/14/2002
18:06:34
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The USA is a "facist" country? Does that mean we only form opinions about people based on their faces?

if you think that the USA is a fascist country, then you don't know what you are taking about.

The USA is not a dictatorship, which a fascist country by its very nature is. Get a grip or get back on your meds.


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10/16/2002
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The USA is not a pure Democracy, the USA is a Constitutional Republic. However it is a particular type of Constitutional Republic. It is a Constitutional Republic that uses Democracy as a tool to assure that power is distributed throughout the population.

A Constitutional Republic is more stable than a pure Democracy (it is generally not easy for rulers to violate the rule of law, the Constitution), and generally requires different political factions to form compromise positions rather than “winner take all” positions.



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