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Subject: Immigrants


Posted by Gislene
On Tuesday, March 07, 2000 at 23:28:40

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Dear Editor,

Please use caution when relating to Brazilians as Illegal Immigrants in your responses on the newsgroup. I am Brazilian,American citizen and quite offended by your language. Please don't relate to brazilians as if they do not belong in the USA. Remember... as matter of fact you are on a virtual Brazilian community.. and yes, there are illegal brazilians in the USA, but it is none of your businnes. No ofenses. If you can't say anything good about them, don't say anything at all. Your language is discriminating.


Sincerely,

Gislene
RE: Immigrants
Posted by Marc
On Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 14:34:31

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When has the "editor" ever responded to this newsgroup? Where are these posts you speak of?
RE: Immigrants
Posted by Nathan
On Sunday, April 02, 2000 at 07:49:31

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I'm sorry Gislene, but many Brazilians in the United States are here illegally. To say so isn't cruel or discriminatory. It's simply the truth. I'm sorry if reality offends you. But that's your problem, not ours.

As a matter of fact, illegal aliens by definition DON'T belong here. Their very presence in this country is a violation of our democratically crafted laws. How is lawlessness and corruption in our country 'none of our business'?

Legal immigration is, of course, another matter. If someone of Brazilian origin has legal permanent residency or citizenship, then of course he or she belongs here as much as you and I do. (Although many of them do acquire their legal status in less than honorable ways - like overstaying their 'tourist' visas, then marrying citizens.)
RE: Immigrants
Posted by Zachary
On Wednesday, April 12, 2000 at 14:00:51

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What is so dishonourable about becoming a permanent resident alien through marriage? The INS and the Justice Department think it is a perfectly acceptable vehicle for legal immigration and process thousands of cases a day of this kind, even in cases where the alien was previously in this country illegally. Besides, I thought you were talking about "LAW", not "HONOR". The law provides for many ways in which one may reside in this country. Why you would qualify some as more honorable than others is lost on me.
RE: Immigrants
Posted by Zachary
On Wednesday, April 12, 2000 at 14:01:06

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What is so dishonourable about becoming a permanent resident alien through marriage? The INS and the Justice Department think it is a perfectly acceptable vehicle for legal immigration and process thousands of cases a day of this kind, even in cases where the alien was previously in this country illegally. Besides, I thought you were talking about "LAW", not "HONOR". The law provides for many ways in which one may reside in this country. Why you would qualify some as more honorable than others is lost on me.
RE: Immigrants
Posted by Nathan
On Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 10:50:10

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I used to be quite 'liberal-minded' and 'sophisticated' on the issue of 'undocumented' immigration. But then I witnessed first hand all the corruption that it necessarily entails. And when it comes to spousal visas, I've heard far too many stories of Americans (men and women) cruelly exploited as 'useful idiots' for this purpose. Even those formerly illegal Brazilians who claim to 'love' their American spouses have frankly admitted to me that of course they married a citizen to get their documentation, but they had to find someone they loved in addition. Call me old-fashioned, Zach, but I don't think legal motives ought to be entered anywhere into the equation when you marry.


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