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Posted by Eli
On Friday, January 18, 2002 at 00:37:20

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Bom dia. I'm going to spend a year or so in Brazil learning the language and enjoying the people and places, but first I must determine how expensive it will be for me to live there, in Rio, and how much money I am likely to be able to make. Can anyone tell me what the rent is like in Rio, for a basic 1 bedroom apartment. What sort of place can I get for $200 a month, for $400? How much money do waiters make in Brazil and how hard is it for an American with poor Portugese to get a job in Brazil? Thanks in advance.
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by Good Luck
On Friday, January 18, 2002 at 07:14:32

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First, the bad news: it will be nearly impossible for you to get a legal job in Brazil...

But then there's the good news: you can probably get a job "off the books" teaching English, although I don't know if your lack of Portuguese will be a problem in this area. It might be. I think there's an article somewhere in the back issues of this rag that discusses the ins and outs of teaching English in Sao Paulo/Rio. It's probably worth your time to go digging for it.

I have no idea if you can get a job as a waiter, but I do seriously doubt that you would really want to, even if you could. For one thing, you would be taking a job away from a Brazilian who probably needs it a lot more than you do. Also, it's not going to be anything like waiting tables at your local TGIF - pay wise and otherwise.


RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by Eli
On Saturday, January 19, 2002 at 14:21:35

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I really need some specifics. How much is an apartment? This will let me know how long I can live there without working. How much do waiters make? How hard is it to get Brazilian citizenship, and how long does it take? Books say Brazilian taxis are cheap, can anyone tell me how much per km a taxi would charge? I wish I could find a list of current prices. It would help a great deal.
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by braslvr
On Saturday, January 19, 2002 at 18:00:02

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Without marrying a Brazilian, it will be almost impossible for you to get Brazilian citizenship. You also are limited to 90 days max per visit, and 180 days max per year. Taxis are not cheap, because gas and cars are very expensive in Brazil. I would say in Rio or Sao Paulo, you will pay close to the same in US$ as in a large US city. Minimum salary in Brazil is 180 Reais per month. About $80US. Many people there make less. I'm thinking that maybe you need to visit first, before thinking about living there.
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by Curious for Brasil
On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 17:27:40

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You might want to try buying a newspaper for the region of Brasil you plan on moving to. Look in the ad sections for Brazzil(this website) for a place in Florida that will send you the newspaper for a couple of dollars plus postage - probably best to get the Sunday edition.

Also remember that there are strict rules and guidleines in regards to the possiblity that someone(Brazilian) will need to co-sign for the apartment. There might be other options than this route. Maybe someone who is more familar with other options can provide more info.

Hope that you obtain your goal of learning Portuguese and you enjoy being a GUEST in a beautiful country.
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by Joaquim Barajo
On Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 12:31:54

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Take the advice...visit first...it is not easy unless you have a lot of $. A job outside an illegal one teaching English would be next to impossible unless you have high skills wanted there.

And staying there legal is only 90 days renewable once...then you must fly to Buenos Aires or Uruguay to renew visa.

Good luck.
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by ELi
On Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 13:43:47

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If trying to live in normal housing, an apartment or even staying at a hostel, how much money can I expect to spend a month? The same as I do in the US?
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by ELi
On Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 13:44:06

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If trying to live in normal housing, an apartment or even staying at a hostel, how much money can I expect to spend a month? The same as I do in the US?
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by Steve Trowbridge
On Saturday, January 26, 2002 at 05:48:48

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Dear Eli, i am an American who came here 4 years ago to stay for the winter(summer here), met a Brazilian woman and am still here.
As the others have said, teaching English is the only viable alternative unless your are sent here by a company.
The normal salary for an English teacher with private students would be from $1500-$2500. You can get a basic apartment in Zona Sul(the best part of Rio)for about R$400-800 a month minimum.
As you can see you`re not going to get rich here but you can easily make enough for your basic living expenses and, if you`re like the rest of us, chase women.
I can give you details of various people and English schools to contact if you want.
Steve
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by Steve Trowbridge
On Saturday, January 26, 2002 at 05:52:06

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Dear Eli, i am an American who came here 4 years ago to stay for the winter(summer here), met a Brazilian woman and am still here.
As the others have said, teaching English is the only viable alternative unless your are sent here by a company.
The normal salary for an English teacher with private students would be from $1500-$2500. You can get a basic apartment in Zona Sul(the best part of Rio)for about R$400-800 a month minimum.
As you can see you`re not going to get rich here but you can easily make enough for your basic living expenses and, if you`re like the rest of us, chase women.
I can give you details of various people and English schools to contact if you want.
Steve
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by Eli
On Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 18:24:35

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Thanks for the information Steve. It looks like I'll be staying there for the six months off of savings, and I appreciate the apartment cost figures. Would I have a problem finding an apartment and renting one if I can afford it? What about power and water? Have you traveled much? I'm very interested in seeing the Pantanal and Amazon. I'd like to know more of your experience. Eli
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by Eli
On Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 18:24:53

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Thanks for the information Steve. It looks like I'll be staying there for the six months off of savings, and I appreciate the apartment cost figures. Would I have a problem finding an apartment and renting one if I can afford it? What about power and water? Have you traveled much? I'm very interested in seeing the Pantanal and Amazon. I'd like to know more of your experience. Eli
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by Eli
On Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 21:15:58

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I'd also love to get in contact with an english school. I'm learning portugese as quickly as I can, I wonder if I'll know enough to be of use in such a situation by the time I arrive.
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by Detroit
On Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 22:12:31

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Steve I am in the process myself.
RE: Moving to Brazil and need help
Posted by paramount853
On Saturday, February 09, 2002 at 12:10:37

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Eli, one suggestion for you, get on ICQ or another messenger and perhaps get a friendship with some Brazilians. I have been doing that for almost 2 years with a lady in Sao Paulo. One thing you will find is the values are sometimes very different than you are used to in the states. Family, religion, morals, etc.. Good Luck.
They dont know nothing
Posted by Lucas Serpa Silva
On Wednesday, February 13, 2002 at 03:47:16

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I'm Brzilian. and for you live in brazil is very easy and really cheap.. why? because the brazilian's money is weakier than dollar.
First I dont advice you to go to Rio or Salvador unless for you to do some travel.. for you get brazilian citzen isnt too difficult because brazil and brazilian love foregin people and in brazil hardly you will listen about imigration office as America England .How fluent is your English?? Because for you get job is so easy Like transletor In Hotel. College. and you pay for a flat about 100 no more..you asked what can you get with $400 you can get a big house with swimming pool 3 bedroom. I advice you , for you go to south brazil first I've lived in many places in brazil and the worst is in the south.
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They dont know nothing
Posted by Lucas Serpa Silva
On Wednesday, February 13, 2002 at 03:48:20

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I'm Brzilian. and for you live in brazil is very easy and really cheap.. why? because the brazilian's money is weakier than dollar.
First I dont advice you to go to Rio or Salvador unless for you to do some travel.. for you get brazilian citzen isnt too difficult because brazil and brazilian love foregin people and in brazil hardly you will listen about imigration office as America England .How fluent is your English?? Because for you get job is so easy Like transletor In Hotel. College. and you pay for a flat about 100 no more..you asked what can you get with $400 you can get a big house with swimming pool 3 bedroom. I advice you , for you go to south brazil first I've lived in many places in brazil and the worst is in the south.
and

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Posted by Lucas Serpa Silva
On Wednesday, February 13, 2002 at 03:48:32

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I'm Brzilian. and for you live in brazil is very easy and really cheap.. why? because the brazilian's money is weakier than dollar.
First I dont advice you to go to Rio or Salvador unless for you to do some travel.. for you get brazilian citzen isnt too difficult because brazil and brazilian love foregin people and in brazil hardly you will listen about imigration office as America England .How fluent is your English?? Because for you get job is so easy Like transletor In Hotel. College. and you pay for a flat about 100 no more..you asked what can you get with $400 you can get a big house with swimming pool 3 bedroom. I advice you , for you go to south brazil first I've lived in many places in brazil and the worst is in the south.
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