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Subject: Rights and Freedoms of Brazilians vs US Citizens


Posted by BigMike
On Saturday, March 09, 2002 at 17:19:07

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I have been reading and studying about Brazil and I'm looking for some info on what freedoms and rights Brazilians have versus what U.S. citizens have.

Can anyone help me out? thanks!
RE: Rights and Freedoms of Brazilians vs US Citizens
Posted by Fernando
On Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 12:38:24

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Hi Bigmike,
Maybe I can help you with this subject, I am brazilian leaving in US for four years now.
We Brazilians by constitution, have all rights and freedom which a human being is expected to have, but, in a day-by-day life this is not true. In my opinion the so called "american freedom" is so regulated that I can not call it freedom. Maybe because of the country development level, I do not know. I think we are a little bit more tolerant! Can you send a list with the issues you have in mind, maybe talking about a specific issue will be easier.

Thanks

RE: Rights and Freedoms of Brazilians vs US Citizens
Posted by braslvr
On Thursday, March 14, 2002 at 04:58:37

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Very well said, Fernando.
RE: Rights and Freedoms of Brazilians vs US Citizens
Posted by braslvr
On Thursday, March 14, 2002 at 05:01:54

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Very well said, Fernando.
RE: Rights and Freedoms of Brazilians vs US Citizens
Posted by BigMike
On Monday, March 18, 2002 at 12:30:54

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Well, this came up because I was at a Brazilian bar with a friend and overheard a Brazilian guy talking to some people about why he moved here and said "for more freedom" and then went on to say something about how you have to live with your parents until you are married or something like that (being in a bar made it hard to understand what exactly he was saying). I don't know if I believe that, but that's why I'm asking!

For example...

Do police have the right to search your property without a warrant?

Do police have to have a reason to pull you over?

Are people allowed to record your personal phone conversations without permission?

Are you allowed to own a gun?

How much are you allowed to get away with when publicly protesting something?

Those are only a few things I can think of right now that I'm curious about, but I think you can get the basic idea of what I'm wondering.

Thanks!
RE: Rights and Freedoms of Brazilians vs US Citizens
Posted by BigMike
On Monday, March 18, 2002 at 12:31:15

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Well, this came up because I was at a Brazilian bar with a friend and overheard a Brazilian guy talking to some people about why he moved here and said "for more freedom" and then went on to say something about how you have to live with your parents until you are married or something like that (being in a bar made it hard to understand what exactly he was saying). I don't know if I believe that, but that's why I'm asking!

For example...

Do police have the right to search your property without a warrant?

Do police have to have a reason to pull you over?

Are people allowed to record your personal phone conversations without permission?

Are you allowed to own a gun?

How much are you allowed to get away with when publicly protesting something?

Those are only a few things I can think of right now that I'm curious about, but I think you can get the basic idea of what I'm wondering.

Thanks!
RE: Rights and Freedoms of Brazilians vs US Citizens
Posted by BigMike
On Monday, March 18, 2002 at 12:31:20

Message:
Well, this came up because I was at a Brazilian bar with a friend and overheard a Brazilian guy talking to some people about why he moved here and said "for more freedom" and then went on to say something about how you have to live with your parents until you are married or something like that (being in a bar made it hard to understand what exactly he was saying). I don't know if I believe that, but that's why I'm asking!

For example...

Do police have the right to search your property without a warrant?

Do police have to have a reason to pull you over?

Are people allowed to record your personal phone conversations without permission?

Are you allowed to own a gun?

How much are you allowed to get away with when publicly protesting something?

Those are only a few things I can think of right now that I'm curious about, but I think you can get the basic idea of what I'm wondering.

Thanks!
RE: Rights and Freedoms of Brazilians vs US Citizens
Posted by BigMike
On Monday, March 18, 2002 at 12:31:24

Message:
Well, this came up because I was at a Brazilian bar with a friend and overheard a Brazilian guy talking to some people about why he moved here and said "for more freedom" and then went on to say something about how you have to live with your parents until you are married or something like that (being in a bar made it hard to understand what exactly he was saying). I don't know if I believe that, but that's why I'm asking!

For example...

Do police have the right to search your property without a warrant?

Do police have to have a reason to pull you over?

Are people allowed to record your personal phone conversations without permission?

Are you allowed to own a gun?

How much are you allowed to get away with when publicly protesting something?

Those are only a few things I can think of right now that I'm curious about, but I think you can get the basic idea of what I'm wondering.

Thanks!
RE: Rights and Freedoms of Brazilians vs US Citizens
Posted by BigMike
On Monday, March 18, 2002 at 12:31:30

Message:
Well, this came up because I was at a Brazilian bar with a friend and overheard a Brazilian guy talking to some people about why he moved here and said "for more freedom" and then went on to say something about how you have to live with your parents until you are married or something like that (being in a bar made it hard to understand what exactly he was saying). I don't know if I believe that, but that's why I'm asking!

For example...

Do police have the right to search your property without a warrant?

Do police have to have a reason to pull you over?

Are people allowed to record your personal phone conversations without permission?

Are you allowed to own a gun?

How much are you allowed to get away with when publicly protesting something?

Those are only a few things I can think of right now that I'm curious about, but I think you can get the basic idea of what I'm wondering.

Thanks!
RE: Rights and Freedoms of Brazilians vs US Citizens
Posted by BigMike
On Monday, March 18, 2002 at 12:31:32

Message:
Well, this came up because I was at a Brazilian bar with a friend and overheard a Brazilian guy talking to some people about why he moved here and said "for more freedom" and then went on to say something about how you have to live with your parents until you are married or something like that (being in a bar made it hard to understand what exactly he was saying). I don't know if I believe that, but that's why I'm asking!

For example...

Do police have the right to search your property without a warrant?

Do police have to have a reason to pull you over?

Are people allowed to record your personal phone conversations without permission?

Are you allowed to own a gun?

How much are you allowed to get away with when publicly protesting something?

Those are only a few things I can think of right now that I'm curious about, but I think you can get the basic idea of what I'm wondering.

Thanks!
RE: Rights and Freedoms of Brazilians vs US Citizens
Posted by Fernando
On Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 13:56:24

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Ok BigMike I got it

Yeah, by law cops need a warrant to enter any private home, but you can see them entering in "favelas" without warrant, why? Cause whom leaves there are poor? Certainly! The Politicians does not respect the law, so you can not expect people doing so. We need more equality, distribute better our wealth. We as a country in development, we try to follow, copy, the way of doing things from other countries, specifically from US (before WWII we tried to follow France way of doing things). What good does a set of human rights law to be in sync with developed countries if the government does not use the taxpayer money to give people minimum conditions to leave (work, education, and infrastructure)? Yeah, right, we have Human rights law! This we call “para inglęs ver” i.e. “for the Englishman to see” or “for to show the first world we are doing our part”. We have all the goods that a modern life provides with a 5th world salary to buy them. Our work laws are made to protect the poor but this ends to prevent people earning more. The employer needs to match 100% of the employee salary to comply with the law, so guess what, people do not get more, but inflation is there, controlled, but is there! Another thing is over 35 your done to the work market! How can a country be developed if it pays a fortune of fees and interests of a loan made by a corrupt government decades ago? A while ago TV Globo, a main TV network in Brazil showed unfinished roads in north of Brazil, deteriorate machines used in construction sites. A shame! A development country must not dispose the taxpayer money in this way; this is a crime with the people. After 20 years of Military government Brazil is now learning democracy. Changes are taking place, but this takes time. I think its time to our politicians start working for the people who elect them, and the people start demanding them to do so.
Sorry the outburst



RE: Rights and Freedoms of Brazilians vs US Citizens
Posted by Randy
On Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 08:28:17

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Fernando - I have seen you post on Brazzil forum a few times. You always have very intelligent posts. Parabens e obrigado! Thank you for your insights.

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