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Subject: Ranking Kitch


Posted by Suely
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 09:33:06

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O Ranking que classifica país de risco coloca Brasil em 41 lugar, Argentina em 10 lugar e Colombia em pé de guerra se classifica 6 lugar. Nossa posição foi justificada porque ainda não escapulimos do contágio do colapso da Argentina, alguma opinião à respeito?
RE: Ranking Kitch
Posted by Sueyl
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 18:40:36

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Este ranking é para posicionar investidores nos países, certo ou errado?
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Posted by Sick
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 19:00:19

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I first assumed that "risk" meant safety as in personal safety. Possibly ranking countries for potential tourists. But you are right, it could be investment "risk". But I would think Argentina would be ranked as a higher risk for investors, given recent events, than Columbia. But maybe not. Brasil being ranked 41 sounds about right, in my opinion.
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Posted by Sick
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 19:04:07

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Suely,

If you have time or care to make an effort I would like to ask a favor. I am testing out translation software and I will translate what I posted above into Portuguese. Please tell me if it makes any sense because if it doesn't, I won't bother with English to Portuguese. Obrigado :)

Eu supus primeiramente que o " risco " significou a segurança como na segurança pessoal. Países possivelmente espessos para turistas potenciais. Mas você é direito, ele poderia ser investimento " risco ". Mas eu pensaria que Argentina espesso como um risco mais elevado para investors, dado eventos recentes, do que Colômbia. Mas talvez não. Brasil que espesso 41 sons sobre a direita, em minha opinião.

RE: Ranking Kitch
Posted by Suely
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 19:20:45

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Brazil being ranked (espesso) está errado, o resto dá para entender.

If Argentina and Colombia don't sound right, why Brasil does? They assure Brazil is not as well positioned because of Argentinas recent problems.

Rgds


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Posted by Suely
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 19:24:01

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And right has two meanings (one is left or right) and the other as you said sounds right.
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Posted by Sick
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 19:27:34

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Thanks for reviewing the translation.

I understand what you are saying but I assume the ranking is based on the perceived economic stability of each country. Therefore, I think the ranking is indicating that despite Argentina's problems, Brasil is still considered to be that much more stable. This is the perception I get from what I read in the news as well. There is reason for concern, but Brasil continues to show signs of stability. Which is a good sign for Brasil, it shows it can withstand regional turmoil at this time, and hopefully will inspire more investment.
RE: Ranking Kitch
Posted by Suely
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 19:32:34

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Yes, only i don't understand why Argetina higher positioned and Brasil lower, but anyway its not for me to discuss, only curious about.
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Posted by Sick
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 19:35:32

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Oh I see what you mean. Brasil being ranked lower is a good thing. I think the ranking is based on the worst places to put your money. So the higher the ranking the more risk there is in investing. In that ranking system, you don't want to be #1 :)
RE: Ranking Kitch
Posted by Suely
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 19:48:04

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Correction made, this is most likely portuguese, you can see which words were wrong on your translation, i made it close enough the right sentence, for you to verify. This way bellow is the best to understand although your traslation were not bad, as we know it came from software.

Eu supus primeiramente que o " risco " significaria a segurança como uma segurança pessoal. Países possivelmente classificados para turistas potenciais. Mas você está certa, poderia ser investimento de " risco ". Mas eu penso na classificação da Argentina como um risco mais elevado para investores, dado eventos recentes, do que Colômbia. Mas talvez não. Classificação do Brasil 41 parece-me certo, em minha opinião.


RE: Ranking Kitch
Posted by Sick
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 19:58:58

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Excellent. Thank you very much this is very helpful. I know this software does not distinguish Brasilian Portuguese and I figured that would be a problem. There are a few translators that have Brasilian Portuguese but they are very expensive, but I will keep looking.

Again, thank you for the time and effort.
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Posted by Suely
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 21:49:03

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The thing is, Brasil is in worst position than Argentina and Colombia, that was strange, why are we more risky? Anyway, that's a matter for financist, only curious.

rgds
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Posted by Suely
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 21:53:04

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I don't think that software is bad, at least i understand what you wanted to say, if you post both english and portuguese, would help a lot who don't understand english, or any doubt about a word. The whole idea of the topic were not that bad.

rgds
RE: Ranking Kitch
Posted by Sick
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 21:54:11

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Brasil is less risky, so it is ranked 41st. Argentina is understandably high on the list of most risky at 10. And, I sort of understand Columbia but I thought it would be lower than Argentina but it is 4th. Like I said, this is not a list any country wants to be #1. You want to be as far away from #1 as possible. I hope I am understanding you correctly :)
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Posted by Suely
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 22:49:13

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Be number one as news says means be the best place to invest.

rgds

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Posted by Suely
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 22:49:21

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Be number one as news says means be the best place to invest.

rgds

RE: Ranking Kitch
Posted by Suely
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 22:49:55

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Be number one as news says means be the best place to invest.

rgds

RE: Ranking Kitch
Posted by Sick
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 22:53:56

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Hmmm Then I don't understand what that particular ranking system was intended to show. I simply do not believe that Argentina and Columbia are considered better places to invest than Brasil.
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Posted by Suely
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 23:19:16

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that's why they made fun of it on the news. I didn't understand either.

RE: Ranking Kitch
Posted by Suely
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 23:19:26

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that's why they made fun of it on the news. I didn't understand either.

RE: Ranking Kitch
Posted by Eu
On Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 06:48:37

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Leia o artigo do Joelmir Beting no Estadão de 26/04. Ele fala justamente sobre isso.

http://www.estado.com.br/colunistas/joelmir/2002/04/joelmir020426.html
RE: Ranking Kitch
Posted by Suely
On Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 09:02:54

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tks

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