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Subject: TRUST HIM OR NOT


Posted by LS
On Monday, July 15, 2002 at 06:30:24

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Is there any reason I should not trust someone I got in contact with over the internet (I met him on the lonely planet forum) who says he can be my source of transportation for my stay in Rio? He sent me pictures of some apartments he owns and his phone number. He also responds to my e-mails quickly. I don't feel I should not trust him but I always like to use a healthy dose of skeptisism. CAN YOU ALL HELP ME OUT? WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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Posted by be careful
On Monday, July 15, 2002 at 09:01:58

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I would be very careful with this situation. does this guy have references? is he in a legitimate business? as I am sure you know, anybody could send you pictures of apts. and claim to own them. besides, why would you need him as a source of transportation? there are plenty of taxi's around. and buses too, for the more adventurous souls. and legitimate tours if that is what interests you.

personally, even if this guy is not dangerous, he might just be a big pain in the ass. I would rather get around the city via taxi and not have a guy like this following me around, trying to be my "tour guide."
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Posted by Boris
On Monday, July 15, 2002 at 14:57:34

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If he is in Rio, I might know him. What's his name?
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Posted by Mike
On Monday, July 15, 2002 at 21:15:47

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IF HE HAS TO MEET SOMEONE OVER THE NET< THEN HE HAS TO HAVE PROBLEMS.
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Posted by Boris
On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 07:52:00

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Everybody has problems, as long as his problems are not passed to his customers... Besides, internet is a common place to solicit business. We are not talking cyber-dating here, just guide services and transportation.

The question is whether he is legit and whether his references check out.
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Posted by egads
On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 13:05:23

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not saying that this applies in this case, but there are loads of sick fucks out there.

from CNN...

Tuesday, July 16, 2002
Cyber sleuth

Christina Long was a 13-year-old sixth grader who was murdered by a man she met online. Tonight, Connie talks to a police officer that poses as a teen-age girl to root out pedophiles in chat rooms.
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Posted by Boris
On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 14:38:56

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Can't argue about the numbers of psychos roaming the Net, but in this case it just doesn't apply.
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Posted by LS
On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 16:43:47

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Hey Boris, thanks for understanding that this is strictly business over the internet. For those who are thinking about pedophiles and people of that nature...I am a 25 year old man who can handle his own. And believe me when I say this...if someone tries to hurt me, HE BETTER DO IT BEFORE I CAN HURT HIM(I don't back down easy!!!). Back to the subject though; It's just about getting my 8 friends and I around. Sort of like personal limo service. That's all!
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Posted by Boris
On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 17:12:19

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Hey, no problem, man. Take it easy in Brazil, while the local guys certainly are not pussies, they are a lot less violent then folks back in the States. There is definetly a mean streak lacking down here. I've seen quite a few situations that would certainly end up in bloodshed in New York or LA resolved in Rio with smiles, handshakes and mutual appologies...

Back to business... You would need a small van to move 8 people around. While in Zona Sul (Copa, Ipanema, Leblon...) you can move on foot or on bus, but if you wish to go Downtown or around town, you will certainly need a van. A few months ago I rented a 15 seater to get a group of friends from the airport to Copa. If I remember correctly, it cost R$63 (about US$28 including the tip).

Does any of you speak Portuguese and/or has any Rio experience?
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Posted by LS
On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 20:25:10

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Yeah, I've been to Rio before. Only once earlier this year. So I'm definitely not familiar with the road ways. I don't want anyone to think I'm violent or anything because I'd rather resolve a situation by talking. I love everybody but...you all know what I'm trying to say.

I don't speak Portuguese, yet that is. I'm going to enroll in a Berlitz Portuguese class or enroll in a class at the college I graduated from. So at least by next year, I'll be posting in Portugeuse.
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Posted by Carioca
On Saturday, July 20, 2002 at 08:54:58

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"If he is in Rio, I might know him. What's his name?"

Saying that is like saying, "If he lives in Los Angeles, I might know him." Obviously Boris doesnt know what he's talking about cause there are way too many people in Rj. But, if Boris does know the guy, then I'd still watch out, Boris may be a scammer as well. There is no way of knowing whether this tour guide is legit. My advice, use the taxi, bus, or metro. The metro doesnt span the whole city, but its clean. Another alternative is to rent a bike, they are cheap and a lot of people do it since the streets of Rj arent full of the best drivers.
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Posted by Boris
On Saturday, July 20, 2002 at 12:23:50

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We are living in a small world, double so in case of independent operators serving tourist market in Rio. Besides, did I say 'I know him'?

While your scepticism is well intentioned, your attitude could use some adjastment, so does your common sense. While biking is an option along the bike path of Avenida Atlantica, you will be in mercy of the not so good Brazilian drivers once you decide to venture out to the real world... Besides, how do you plan to ferry nine people on bikes all over the city? Have you ever been to Rio, Carioca?
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Posted by Carioca
On Saturday, July 20, 2002 at 20:52:23

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"your attitude could use some adjastment"

Your spelling could use some ADJUSTMENT. Yes comrade, I have been to S.p. and R.j. I did mention to "LS" that there are many ways to get around the city. You seem to selectively remember the information I gave regarding the bikes, which doesnt suprise me, because it backs up your argument. Anyways, I haven't any more time to argue about things that don't really matter. I think we can both agree on that issue.
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Posted by LetMeJustSayThis
On Saturday, July 20, 2002 at 21:06:04

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although I don't know him, Boris seems to be connected with the site www.lifestylesbrazil.com, which is a site for gringos who want to own property in brazil, in Rio particularly, so he is probably tuned into the Rio tourist industry, which makes his chance of knowing this internet transportation contact guy much better than most other random guys in Rio.

Obviously, RJ is a big city, no shit sherlock. But I would guess LS has nothing to loose by checking with Boris to see if he knows of this guy. If so, LS can proceed with confidence, if not, well, LS is still where he started, wondering if this guy is trustworthy or not.

Still, I think LS should stick using taxi's (so, there's 9 people - take 3 taxis - they ain't that expensive!) and stardard tourist tours, until you know the language and the lay of the land, meet some locals that you know you can trust, and then you can get more adventurous.
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Posted by Boris
On Sunday, July 21, 2002 at 07:19:51

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Well, pardon me if my spelling offends you. I happen to put a little more attention into the content vs. appearence of the information I provide.
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Posted by Brasilguy
On Monday, August 05, 2002 at 21:25:49

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Hey guys, calm down a lil´ok? If you´re gonna visit Rio with a bunch of people i´ts most likely you all gonna attract some attention...

Be wise. Hire some certified tour guy, licenced by "BELOTUR" or "PREFEITURA DO RIO DE JANEIRO".

Garanteed fun.

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