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The Seemingly Futile Battle of Brazil Against Impunity PDF Print E-mail
2008 - November 2008
Written by Clarinha Glock   
Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:09

Brazilian court For the Brazilian people justice is generally slow or lacking. Throughout the years there has been a growing number of complaints about the buying of sentences and impunity, especially in the case of white-collar offenses (those committed by people on the highest socio-economic levels). In addition, the much-talked-about corruption scandals and the different punishments for the rich and the poor (the latter more often ending up behind bars) contribute to further discrediting the system. But some progress has to be acknowledged.

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written by João da Silva, December 16, 2008
Throughout the years there has been a growing number of complaints about the buying of sentences and impunity, especially in the case of white-collar offenses (those committed by people on the highest socio-economic levels).


An excellent article written by "Clarinha Glok" and my congrats to little Clara.

BUT.......BUT..... Clarinha, the white collar offenses are not committed only by the people on the "highest socio-economic levels". It does start from the level of a "Sindico" of a "prédio", ably assisted by the employees. If it happens in a micro environment like this, can you imagine what is going on on the national level (Macro Environment) ?

However, must congratulate Clarinha for writing a thorny subject like this. Right now, it appears that we are losing the "Battle against Impunity". But who knows with decent people like the writer of this article, the things may change.
BREAD INTO MOST BRASILIANS
written by Forrest Allen Brown, December 17, 2008
yes joao but for hundreads of years the little people have seen the
over loards take a bite from the king .
the governor took from the mayors the mayors took from the tax man on down the line
cardinal took from the bshipo
who took from the priest who took fropm the people

in porto rico it is called a bite every one gets there bite
police are paid off ,judges paid off , laywers buy fredom and in most cases the government just turns a bling eye .

most brasilians hole up there hands smile and say brasil
ESSAY Submitted by Florist A$$ Brown
written by (by the English Grader - aka Costinha), December 17, 2008
BREAD INTO MOST BRASILIANS = Huh???

yes joao but for hundreads of years the little people have seen the
over loards = What the f.u.c.k. is that??? take a bite from the king .
the governor took from the mayors the mayors took from the tax man on down the line
cardinal took from the bshipo = Is that some type of high tech Ship???
who took from the priest who took fropm the people

in porto rico it is called a bite every one gets there bite
police are paid off ,judges paid off , laywers buy fredom = Is that you Fred??? and in most cases the government just turns a bling eye .

most brasilians hole up there hands smile and say brasil = Crack Logic


Grade:

Grammar = F
Spelling = F
Creative Writing = F

FINAL GRADE = F

PS. In this case “F” does not imply Fantastic!
And where does Brazil stands with......
written by ch.c., December 17, 2008
Palocci ?
Dirceu ?
Your ex Congress President ?
The ambulances scams...involving tens and tens of politicians ?
The senators proven guilty of having had SLAVES in their large farms ?

and...and...and Sister Dorothy.... Killers ?

Funny that they are ALL free...without ANYMORE CHARGES OF WRONGDOINGS !

Facts are....
1) Brazilians medias always announce scandals with...BIG FANFARE.
That means....FEEED THE CROWD.
2) Brazilians authorities then say...WITH BIG FANFARE.....WE WILL SEND THOSE GUILTY TO JAIL !
That also means....FEED THE CROWD.

3) And then....WITHOUT BIG FANFARE......the justice finds a way and there are many.....to NOT SEND anyone in jail for more than a few days or weeks.....AT BEST ! Rarely even one day !

4) Finally......the cases are forgotten by the crowd.....as new revelations in new cases surface and it all start over again ! The
crowd is...FEEDED AGAIN WITH NEW MENTAL FOOD !!!!!

Simple...very simple...and new promises of Justice...to make you swallow THE EARLIER INJUSTICE !

Are Brazilians not saying.....IT WILL END UP IN A PIZZA ANYWAY...AS USUAL ?

And sure....I, ch.c, is the one wrong....as per many idiots in this site, including newbies such as Ana Paula from Brazil !
RIGHT ?????

It remains that Brazil is corrupted to the roots at ALL levels...from the highest to the the lowest !
Stealing SOMETHING is part of your daily life, your lifestyle, your way of thinking and acting. It is in your blood, genes and even education.

Once more......cheaters always cheat, liars always lie, hiders always hide regardless of their social group !
Never ever trust a brazilian is a rule of common sense...when negotiating and/or doing business with them !

Proven time and again....time and again...time and again !

Sorry...but only LOSERS DO THIS....NOT WINNERS !

Hey...hey !
Brazil = Crack Logic
written by ch.c., December 17, 2008
Grade A

Because Sooooooo True.

Somewhat like the Brazilian ethanol.....supposed to be profitable at US$ 35.- oil equivalent using the Brazilian maths...and strill losing money when oil was over US$ 100.- !

GRADE Z... well deserved...... and proven by now !

CHC – Chronicle Herpes Carrier
written by ..., December 17, 2008
One Word: ENEMA

Costinha
More Brazilian Injustice
written by Steve Wash, December 17, 2008
http://BringSeanHome.org

A child kept from the parent and given to a strange who has connections?
More Brazilian Injustice
written by Steve Wash, December 17, 2008
http://BringSeanHome.org

A child kept from the parent and given to a strange who has connections?
More American Injustice
written by Steve DishWasher, December 17, 2008
http://lumpenscholar.wordpress...ce-system/

http://www.homelandsec.org/com...opedid=822


A wild kept apparent and forgiven to an interchange who has collections?
Please read this poem by William Blake-1800s? The best poem to explain our world!
written by Adriana A., December 18, 2008
O for a voice like thunder, and a tongue
To drown the throat of war! - When the senses
Are shaken, and the soul is driven to madness
Who can stand? When the souls of the oppressed
Fight in the troubled air that rages, who can stand?
When the whirlwind of fury comes from the
Throne of God, when the frowns of his countenance
Drive the nations together, who can stand?
When Sin claps his broad wings over the batle,
And sails rejoicing in the flood of Death;
When souls are torn to everlasting fire,
And fiends of Hell rejoice upon the stain.
O who can stand? O who hath caused this?
O who can answer at the throne of God?
The kings and Nobles of the Land have donne it!
Hear it not, Heaven, thy Ministers have donne it!
The best poem to explain our world !
written by ch.c., December 18, 2008
Good poem for people living in Banana Republics such as Brazil, where corruption,killings, oppressions, injustice, impunity.....is a prevailing way of life !

Sorry.....but not in my country !
CHC – Chronicle Herpes Carrier
written by ..., December 18, 2008
Three Words: WHO'S YOUR DADDY?

Costinha
Ch.c
written by Forrest Allen Brown, December 18, 2008
DId NOT TALK ABOUT THE POLICE SQUADS JUST KILLING PEOPLE ON THE STREETS.
the killing of street kids like so many stray dogs .
and the courts just turn a blind eye to it along with all the people .

at least all i have to deal with is the laws of wind & waves

and not like most brasilians i bet you know your father !!!

and not rules of man run by greed & lies
Maybe my title wasn't apropriated
written by Adriana A., December 18, 2008
Well then, if it does not apply to your country, good for you!
But it does apply to mine and many others, and to the history of mankind -which was made of blood.

In fact, I'm not an expert in Blake's poems; I am just starting to admire his work. I have lots of research to do!

I became interested on him in one of my classes, and the fact that he was anti-clerical, and against any form of organized religion. He was considered to be a madman in his time 1757-1827. He was born in London.

It is hard to interpret poems with 100% acuracy.
But in my view and from the views of some literature professors, he may be blaming the ills of human kind on the "kings" and "nobles"(today would be governments and politicians) and "ministers"(religious figures). But again, feel free to interpret anyway you like it.

One more thing, I forgot to write the name of the poem. It is called, "Prologue to King Edward the Fourth" it is in his book called, "poetical Sketches".
Correction
written by Adriana A., December 18, 2008
I did not become interested on "him", I became interested on? or in? his writings or work. (I have a hard time with English prepositions!)
I forgot,
written by Adriana A., December 18, 2008
W. Blake was also a painter. One of his many famous paiting is called (I think) "Red Dragon". He was an inspiration for many musicians, including (one of my favorite British heavy metal band) Iron Maiden! (my favorite song of the band is "Wasted Years")Hooray!
Steve Wash
written by Adriana A., December 18, 2008
I think in this case the kid should be reunited with his father.

Although, there is one case I know. A brazilian Woman here (I'm not posting her name) she wanted to have the custody of her daughter -the father was an American, and he was previously charged with domestic violence, and he was also a drug user...
She lost the case.
What happen was the father's lawyers said in court that if she was to recieve the custody of the litle girl, she would take her to Brazil. So the judge gave the father the custody of the child -even with DV. charges and drug usage.
This woman then, did the right thing. She began to study in order to become a social worker. Last time I heard of her she was trying to get her social worker licenses.

I hope her daughter is OK.
"recieve the custody of the litle girl, she would take her to Brazil."
written by bo, December 18, 2008
And because Brazil has never enforced the Hague Council's rules on parental kidnapping, that is exactly why the U.S. courts refused her custody. Who can blame them? So the brazilian mother will have to stay in the U.S. And was she able to prove that the father was both abusive and a drug-user? Or is this just what she said? Brazilian mothers are infamous for inventing stories during divorce proceedings, custody or visitation hearings against fathers.

The situation above, concerning Sean Goldman, is receiving lots of media attention in the U.S.(MSNBC, Dr. Phil, and soon to be on FoxNew's On the Record With Greta Van Susteren-I wonder if the Brazilian judiciary will order a black out of FoxNews on SKY that day) and in Europe as well. Just about everywhere, except Brazil, where there's a media "gag order".

Approximately 50 American/Brazilian children, that were born in the U.S., are being held in Brazil without the permission of their american parents, in other words, kidnapped, and the Brazilian gov't. and judiciary does NOTHING to enforce their own laws, not to mention international law. They should be expelled from the Hague Council.

Truly amazing when idiots like the judge in Matto Grosso compared the ID procedures in the U.S. after 9-11 to "the worse horrors of Nazi, Germany". All the while you're a safe haven for brazilians that kidnap their children from other countries!!! And place media gag orders from reporting on it!!!

Who appears like Nazi, Germany here?
Three Words: WHO'S YOUR DADDY?
written by ch.c., December 18, 2008
A lovely father. A respectul man. A humble citizen.
A hard worker !
Simply a blue collar worker !

He died 21 years ago !
Truly amazing when idiots like the judge in Matto Grosso compared the ID procedures in the U.S. after 9-11 to "the worse horrors of Nazi, Germany".
written by ch.c., December 18, 2008
Just think about what would have happened if someone said the same....AGAINST BRAZIL...AND THEIR 2 PLANES CRASHES !!!!!!

And then TENS OF millions and millions of Brazilians pretend THEY ARE NOT RACISTS....BUT AMERICANS ARE !!!!!!!

What is guaranteed is that the IDIOTS ARE IN BRAZIL !!!!!
A country where failures are followed by more failures...smoothing their failures with currency devaluations....one after the other...time after time......time and again....since the 1930s....the decade they started their Industrialization !

They are at war...AGAINST THEMSELVES FOR MANY DECADES !
Results today ?
Their crime rate doubled in around 20 years.
Their war ?
A war against JUSTICE AND EGALITY....A WAR PRO-INJUSTICE AND PRO-INEGALITY !!!!! just look at their World ranking for their wealth AND SOCIAL INEQUALITY ! Their rank shines...if you inverse the results !
One of the World Worst...if not The Worst !

And they are proud of what they did, what they do and what they will do ! Because there is no fundamental change in the horizon.....except promises...promises and more promises. Just as they promised....in the past.

Brazil is a shame to humanity....and Brazilians continue to boast themselves....as usual.....as if they are better than others when reality prove the exact opposite !!!!
Did I Miss Something
written by Ric, December 18, 2008
Or should the title read, "The Seemingly.....". Seemly, on the other hand, is the opposite un Unseemly. Which would make the title as written to mean that the battle against impunity is futile but althogether fitting. Is that what we wanted?
Did I Miss Something...
written by ..., December 18, 2008
Let me rephrase this… Did you bring condoms?

That’s the first question you should ask CHC (Chronicle Herpes Carrier) before you fondle each other’s “cús” spreading the disease.

Your Costa
CHC – Who’s Your Daddy?
written by ..., December 18, 2008
The gayman with itchy genItalia living north of Italia.

Dear CHC:

No Big Surprises Here… Your daddy tossed-off over a tank full of spawning guppies, hence you… The biggest rolling caca-nerd in the manure pile.

Your Costa
Bobão – The Convicted Child m******r
written by ..., December 18, 2008
Like they say in your US of A… If you can’t stand the heat then get out of the kitchen!

Buddy… You really need to go back to the rock from which you crawled from under in north america. Nobody will shed any tears, believe me!

Your Costa
Yes, there was proof...
written by Adriana A., December 19, 2008
Before the divorce, -a couple months earlier- she called the police a few times and was reported -the police went there. I just know this case though.

And like I said before, this kid should be reunited with his dad...
I for myself prefer to have my opinions based on each individual case, and not on his/her nationality.
Long life Iron Maiden! --Wasted Years-- Hope it works
written by Adriana A., December 19, 2008
Iron Maiden-Fear of the Dark (live@Rock in Rio-2001) Brazil Loves Iron Maiden and Iron Maiden Loves Brazil!
written by Adriana A., December 19, 2008
...
written by bo, December 19, 2008
Don't worry costa, we've been in the process of selling all our assets here since June. As soon as they're gone, and IF Brazil "allows" us to take OUR money out of the country, I'm outta here. And I'm sure you're right, most brazilians here won't miss the audacity of a "gringo" speaking out about the innumerous injustices and predjudices that exist in Brazil, particularly the northeast.

Adriana;

What you need to understand, I you don't already, is that in a case of international parental custody or parental kidnapping, Brazil is simply one of the very few countries that participate in the Hague that do NOT enforce it's laws when they are not in favor of a Brazilian. Hence, all those countries that DO enforce their laws know well that if they give custody to a Brazilian, and he/she takes the child back to Brazil, then any visitation by the non-brazilian parent would strictly be up to the Brazilian parent. As the non-brazilian parent certainly can't depend upon the Brazilian judiciary to enforce visitation priviledges. The case you described can be entirely contributed to the fact that the Brazilian gov't. and judiciary simply don't enforce the law.....yet another one of many.
...
written by jon, December 19, 2008
Where is the justice in Rio??? 16,000 people "disappeared" in two years...Cansei???????


...
written by asp, December 19, 2008
bo, there is nothing wrong with leaving brazil because its not giving you what you want.but laying on the government as the reason to not want to be here is strange to me. i wouldnt live in any country based on whether i like the government or not.of course a really opresive fundamentalist government wouldnt interest me

but, i was born and raised in chicago and the way they are looking at what has happened in illinios recently, and, how they start going into how brutal chicago history of politics is,i mean the history sounds as rancid and corrupt as anything anywhere..

i dont think about the government here as the reason i like being in brazil, and,i dont think about the business, although i really want to do business here, but,it is down compared as if i lived in the states. but, there is other things here that make it unique and hard to leave, that for me personaly, outweigh the bad things.

i mean , i certainly wouldnt have wanted to give up the last 22 years of my life if i thought i had stayed in the states it would have been more secure for my businss, i would have stayed there m invested my life hoping for security and would have arrived at what is happening to the economy now. of course i expericane the bad part of that now, in what ever business i have in the states that is getting hurt, but, the incredible things that i experiance here over compensate for the bad things
asp...
written by bo, December 19, 2008
the brazilian gov't. isn't why I'm moving, but is one of the reasons why we have given up on our construction projects. The beurocracy...and even worse for "gringos". Where I live respect is as rare as astatine. Infrastructure is not good. Taxes...amongst the highest on the planet. Crime....getting worse and was already bad when I got here. The beurocracy and difficulty in doing business is just a small part. There is a whole assortment of legitimate reasons why I won't be calling Brazil my country of permanent residence in the near future....se deus permite.
bo
written by Adriana A., December 20, 2008
Well, I understand what you said...
but do you think was a right decision to give the litle girl to her drug user father? Just because other Brazilians mother did wrong? If the judge was worried about the Brazilian mom, he should have been worried about the American father as well. He could also have sent her to foster care (although still wouldn't be a good solution)or some other family member.

My argument here -in this case that I know- is not the parents nationality, but the well-being of the child. I don't know, but I think no one should take decisions based on "assumptions" that could happen, as oppose to take decisions based on "facts" that happened -the father's bad behavior.

Believe me, I work with the "litle people", I study them, and I love them...
When I say I'm worried that this litle girl was sent to live with her father, I mean it!
Her father happens to be an American, but he could be Brazilian or from any other country, and I'm still would be worried.
My heart breaks when I have to read for my research papers, academic articles, Stat., and lectures about abuse, parental neglect, violence, and so on.

Steve Wash
written by Adriana A., December 20, 2008
The sad thing is that this boy has been way from his father for so long, he is loosing attachment to him. The transition will be really hard for this boy, once he reunites with his father -hopefully will be soon. It's amazing that such bad decision -to keep the boy in Brazil-came from people that know better, that know the law.

I read the other article, and it mentioned that anyone can sign petitions to force something to happen. I will!

I can also talk with my father in Brazil as he works in the field of law, and ask him to sign the petition and tell his collegues to do the same. My father is a strong advocate for social justice -and it's funny that I don't see him complaining about Brazil, what he does is "take action"!
I'm feeling so poetic these days! I'm sorry you guys have to put up with this but...
written by Adriana A., December 20, 2008
Here is another poem that I found that goes for this boy and for the litle girl in the story I mentioned.
It's called "Stolen Child" (but in the case of this poem, the child is stolen not from a Brazilian mom, but from a Faery, and the purpose is to keep and protect the child from the "Human Sufferings").
The writer was Irish, his name is W.B.Yeats 1800s?-1900s?
Stolen Child
written by Adriana A., December 20, 2008
Where dips the rocky highland
Of Sleuth Wood in the lake
There lies a leafy island
Where flapping herons wake
The drowsy water-rats
There we've hid our faery vats
Full of berries
And of reddest stolen cherries
Chorus
Come away, O human child
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand
For the world's more full of weeping
Than you can understand.

Where the wave of moonlight glosses
The dim grey sands with light
By far off furthest Rosses
We foot it all the night
Weaving olden dances
Mingling hands and mingling glances
Till the moon has taken flight
To and fro we leap
And chase the frothy bubbles
Whilst the world is full of troubles
And anxious in its sleep.
Chorus
Where the wandering water gushes
From the hills above Glen-Car
In pools among the rushes
That scarce could bathe a star
We seek for slumbering trout
And whispering in their ears
Give them unquiet dreams
Leaning softly out
From ferns that drop their tears
Over the young streams
ll- Part "Stolen Child"
written by Adriana A., December 20, 2008
Away with us he's going
The solemn-eyed
He'll hear no more the lowing
Of the calves on the warm hillside
Or the kettle on the hob
Sing peace into his breast
Or see the brown mice bob
Round and round the oatmeal chest.
Chorus
For he comes, the human child
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand
For the world's more full of weeping
Than you can understand.
Adriana....
written by bo, December 20, 2008
From what you're saying, IF the father would have been convicted of drug possession, attempting to distribute, or under the influence of drugs, and/or also for physical abuse of his wife and/or child, then YES, it would be wrong for any judge to give custody to such a father. He should have been put in foster care, or given custody to the next closest relative in the U.S. It would certainly have been wonderful if they could've given custody to the brazilian parent if competent, but as I previously stated, how can anyone expect other countries to do this when everyone knows that the brazilian justice system will not uphold any visitation priviledges or custody when it doesn't favor the brazilian parent? But knowing the american courts as I do, and without seeing any type of evidence whatsoever, strictly on hearsay, I find this situation very difficult to believe. Not saying it's not possible, but very difficult to believe. Saying one is a drug user and abusive is one thing, having proof, being both arrested AND convicted is another.

But let me say this, I'm real familiar with family courts in the U.S. My father was awarded custody of me when I was 8 years old, that was in 1974 and in the state of W.V. And my mother was NOT a bad mother, not abusive in any way, shape, or form, nothing negative whatsoever. This would be next to IMPOSSIBLE in Brazil TODAY, and until recently was absolutely IMPOSSIBLE. Prejudice, bias, and preconception...those are just a few of the problems that still exist here in Brazil today in respect to child custody. Although I've experienced this here in Brazil first hand, one only needs to read the latest compliance report of the Hague Abduction Convention.

http://travel.state.gov/pdf/2008HagueAbductionConventionComplianceReport.pdf

It clearly states, that the courts here in Brazil in these situations clearly favor 1.) The brazilian parent and 2.) Mothers.

As you have clearly stated Adriana, the best interest of the child should be the priority. And when one already has the preconception that the child is best off with his mother as long as she's not a crack whore is ludicrous not to mention quite archaeic thinking. A child after birth does need his mother, from a developmental standpoint, more than a father, until the age of THREE. After that, any child needs the participation of BOTH parents to have a normal, healthy, happy childhood, this isn't my opinion, it's the results of umpteen dozen studies by early child developmental psychologists and psychiatrists.

Just because this child has now been abducted to Brazil four years ago, because there has been a gross injustice in Brazil upholding the laws in which they have sworn to uphold and treaties they have agreed to participate in by not returning the child 4 years ago, that can NOT now be used as an excuse to not order the return of the child with his natural father. Two wrongs don't make a right.

If we're going to start getting into those type of excuses, we may just as well allow bank robbers to never be prosecuted after a period of time without arrest. The brazilian justification would be, "Hey, it's been over a year since he robbed the bank, and he's already accustomed to this playboy lifestyle. It would be emotionally detrimental to him to send him to jail now." smilies/cheesy.gif

As far as "taking action" here in Brazil about the injustices that exist.....that's wonderful about your father. But being a gringo in Brazil and not flying under the radar is dangerous business in this country. It's dangerous business when you're a brazilian, let alone a gringo, and especially when you have to go against people that have some political clout.

In summary, brazil needs to change it's mentality concerning this issue. They've already started with the new law coming into force just this year of "guarda compartilhada". About time, don't ya think? But unfortunately the mindset of the brasileiras here in the northeast is still that they "own" their child, their child is an asset, and it is theirs. I guess I can understand, to some degree, seeing so many bastard children here in the northeast that their father's either don't even know they exist or don't want to know. smilies/sad.gif
Don't get me wrong
written by Adriana A., December 20, 2008
I did not say because it has been too long, their separation (father and his son) should be used as an excuse to let the situation stay as it is.
I studyed about attachment. But then, each case is different, and not all children have the same issues around separation, attachment, and transition. Some children are very resiliant, others aren't.
But that's life!
AA
written by Forrest Allen Brown, December 22, 2008

you are not counting on the father and child bond not knowing where his child is ,if it is safe ,free fron harm , is it hungry ,cold ,does it get beaten , used as a sex toy , the list goes on and on .

a gringo in brasil court is just spending money on nothing
would be better to pay to have your child taken by some person than
handed off to you and run back to the states ,

the big deal comes when brasil calls up crying and the US bends over to kiss its ass at the expence of the US citisen .

brasil may be a 3 world country but the US has a 3 world government
whtich is trying to bring down the US citisens to the 3 world while keeping up there political class as they put it .

merry christmass , feliz natal .
if this offends some of you
kiss my ass
3 Jewish children abducted to Brazil
written by Manuel Bordaty, January 07, 2009
www.hatufim.org tells the story of 3 Jewish children abducted to Brazil. Brazil refuses to return them in non-compliance to the Hague Convention.

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