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A Brazilian Theologian Once Silenced by Cardinal Ratzinger Talks About the Old and the New Pope PDF Print E-mail
2013 - February 2013
Written by Leonardo Boff   
Monday, 25 February 2013 15:36

Benedict XVIAn interview with Leonardo Boff - The Church is without a spiritual leader who elicits hope and purpose. We need a different type of pope; more a pastor than a professor, not a man of the Church-institution, but a representative of Jesus of Nazareth who said: "and he that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out", (Gospel of John, 6,37), be he a homosexual, a prostitute, or a transsexual.

How did you receive the news of the renunciation of Benedict XVI?

At first, I felt a deep sadness for him because from what I knew, especially of his shyness, I could imagine the effort he had to have made to greet the people, to embrace them, kiss the children. I was convinced that one day he would take advantage of a sensible reason, such as the physical limitations of his health and his declining mental vigor, to resign. Even though he appeared to be an authoritarian pope, he was not attached to the position of pope.

I felt relieved because the Church is without a spiritual leader who elicits hope and purpose. We need a different type of pope; more a pastor than a professor, not a man of the Church-institution, but a representative of Jesus of Nazareth who said: "and he that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out", (Gospel of John, 6,37), be he a homosexual, a prostitute, or a transsexual.

What is the personality of Benedict XVI like, since you had a certain friendship with him?

I met Benedict XVI in my doctoral years in Germany, between 1965-1970. I attended many of his conferences, but was never a student of his. He read my doctoral thesis: "The Place of the Church in the Secularized World" and liked it very much, to the point of looking for an editor to publish it, a 500 page work.

After that, we worked on the international magazine, Concilium, whose directors met every year, somewhere in Europe, during the week of Pentecost. I edited the Portuguese edition. This was between 1975-1980. While the others took a nap, he and I would take a walk and talk about topics of theology, faith in Latin America, especially about Saint Bonaventure and Saint Augustine, of whom he is a specialist and to whom even now I often turn.

Then, in 1984, we found ourselves in a moment of conflict: he as my judge in the process the former Holy Office undertook against my book, Church: Charisma and Power, (Iglesia: carisma y poder, Vozes 1981; Sal Terrae 1982). Then I had to sit in the chair where, among others, Galileo and Giordano Bruno had sat.

He subjected me to a time of "obliging silence", I had to leave teaching and was prohibited from publishing anything. After that we never saw each other again. As a person he is refined, timid and extremely intelligent.

As a Cardinal he was your Inquisitor, after having been your friend: how did you see that situation?

When he was named President of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (the former Inquisition) I was extremely happy. I thought: we will finally have a theologian as the head of an institution with the worst imaginable reputation. Fifteen days later, he thanked me, and said: "I believe you have several issues pending here in the Congregation, that we will have to solve."

And almost every time I published a book, requests for clarification would come from Rome, that I did not answer promptly. But nothing ever comes from Rome that has not previously been sent to Rome. Here in Brazil there were conservative bishops who persecuted theologians of liberation and sent complaints of their theological ignorance to Rome, under the pretext that my theology could harm the faithful.

Then I realized that he had already been contaminated by the Roman virus that causes all those working in the Vatican to quickly find a thousand reasons to be moderate or even conservative. And then, more than surprised, I was truly disappointed.

How did you receive the punishment of "obliging silence"?

After the examination and the reading of my written defense, that is now an appendix to the new edition of Church: Charisma and Power, (Record 2008), there were 13 Cardinals who opined and decided. Ratzinger is only one of them. Then they submitted their decision to the pope.

I believe his was a dissenting vote from the majority, because he knew other books of mine on theology, translated into German, and had told me that he liked them. Once, in front of the pope in an audience in Rome, he even referred to them favorably.

I received the "obliging silence" as any Christian linked to the Church would: I accepted it with calm. I remember saying: "It is better to walk with the Church than alone with my theology". It was relatively easy for me to accept the imposition, because the Presidency of the National Conference of Bishops of Brazil, (CNBB, in Portuguese) had always supported me, and two of its Cardinals, don Aloysio Lorscheider and don Paulo Evaristo Arns, accompanied me to Rome and participated, in a second part, in the dialogue between Cardinal Ratzinger and me.

There we were three against one. Sometimes we put Cardinal Ratzinger on the spot because the Brazilian Cardinals assured him that the criticisms against the theology of liberation Ratzinger had made in a recently published document were just an echo of its detractors and not an objective analysis.

They asked for a new, positive, document. He accepted the idea and actually did it two years later. They also asked, to me and to my brother Clodovis who was in Rome, that we write a scheme and give it in the Sacred Congregation. In one day and one night, we wrote it and turned it in.

You left the Church in 1992. Do you have any bitterness over the whole Vatican affair?

I never left the Church. I left a function within the Church, the priesthood. I continued as a theologian and professor of theology in several chairs, here in Brazil and abroad. Whoever understands the logic of a closed and authoritarian system, not very open to the world, that does not cultivate dialogue and exchange (living systems are alive to the degree that they open up and inter-exchange), knows that someone like me, who does not plainly get in line with that system, will be watched over controlled and eventually punished.

It is similar to the security systems that we have known in Latin America under the military regimes of Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Uruguay. Within this logic, the then Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, (former Holy Office, former Inquisition), Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger condemned, silenced, removed from their teaching chairs or transferred out more than one hundred theologians.

There were two of us from Brazil: theologian Ivone Gebara and myself. Because I understand and lament the above mentioned logic, I know they are condemned to do what they do with complete good will. But, as Blaise Pascal said: "Evil is never so perfectly done as when it is done with good will".

Of course this good will is not good, because it creates victims. I have no rancor or resentment because I had compassion and mercy for all those who moved within this logic, that, as I see it, is many light years away from the witness of Jesus of Nazareth. Moreover, it is something of the last century, already past. And I will not go back to it.

How do you evaluate the pontificate of Benedict XVI? Has he known how to handle the internal and external crises of the Church?

Benedict XVI was an eminent theologian, but a frustrated pope. He did not have the charisma to direct and animate the community, as John Paul II had. Unfortunately, he will be stigmatized in a reductionist manner, as the papacy when pedophiles increased, homosexuals were not recognized, and women were humiliated, as in the United States, where the right of citizenship was denied to a theologian for reasons of gender.

And he will also go down in history as the pope who strongly criticized the theology of liberation, interpreted it in the light of its detractors, and not through the pastoral and liberating witness of bishops, priests, men and women religious and lay people who made a serious option for the poor against poverty and in favor of life and liberty.

For this just and noble reason they were misinterpreted by their brethren in the faith and many of them were detained, tortured and murdered by organs of national security of the military state. Among them we find bishops such as Bishop Enrique Angelelli from Argentina and Archbishop Oscar Romero from El Salvador.

Archbishop Dom Helder Camara was the martyr they did not kill. But the Church is much larger than her popes, and she will continue, between shadow and light, offering a service to humanity, in order to keep alive the memory of Jesus and to offer a possible source of meaning to life beyond this life.

Now we know from the Vatileaks that the Roman curia are deeply involved in a ferocious fight for power, especially between the wing of Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the present Secretary of State, and the former Secretary, Cardinal Angelo Sodano, already emeritus.

Both have their allies. Bertone, taking advantage of the limitations of the pope, has practically built a parallel government. The scandals revealed by the leaked secret documents from the desk of the Pope and the Vatican Bank, used by Italian millionaires, some from the mafia, to launder money and send it abroad, very much affected the Pope.

And more and more he became isolated. His resignation is due to the limits of age and illness, but made even graver by these internal crises that weakened him and that he did not know how to, or could not, stop in time.

Pope John XXIII said that the Church cannot be a museum, but must be a house with open doors and windows. Do you believe Benedict XVI attempted to transform the Church back into something like a museum?

Benedict XVI is nostalgic for the medieval synthesis. He reintroduced the mass in Latin, chose vestments of renaissance popes and of other times in the past, kept palatial habits and ceremonials, to those who sought communion he would first offer the papal ring to be kissed, and only after that would he offer the sacrament, something that was no longer done.

His vision was restorative and he is nostalgic for a synthesis between culture and faith that visibly exists in his native Bavaria, something he explicitly noted. In the University where he studied, where I also studied, in Munich, when he saw a poster announcing me as a guest lecturer to deliver a conference on the new frontiers of the theology of liberation, he asked the dean to postpone it sine die.

His theological idols are Saint Augustine and Saint Bonaventure, who always had a great distrust of everything coming from the world, contaminated by sin and in need of rescue by the Church. It is one of the facts that explain his opposition to modernity, which he sees through the lens of secularism and relativism, and as being beyond the realm of the Christian influence that helped to form Europe.

In your opinion, will the Church change her doctrine on the use of condoms and sexual morals in general?

The Church must maintain her convictions, those she believes cannot be abandoned, such as opposition to abortion and the manipulation of life. But she must renounce the status of exclusivity, as if she were the only carrier of truth. She must understand herself within the democratic space, where her voice is heard alongside other voices. And she must respect those voices and even be ready to learn from them.

And when her point of view is defeated, she should offer her experience and tradition to improve what can be improved and to make easier the weight of existence. In fact, she has to be more human, more humble and to have more faith, in the sense of not having fear.

The opposite of faith is not atheism, but fear. Fear paralyzes and isolates the people from each other. The Church must walk together with humanity, because humanity is the true People of God. She reflects this more consciously, but she does not exclusively own this reality.

What should the future Pope do to avoid the emigration of many of the faithful to other Churches, especially to the Pentecostals?

Benedict slowed down the renewal of the Church that was encouraged by Vatican Council II. He did not accept divisions in the Church, so he preferred a lineal point of view, strengthening tradition. It so happens that the tradition of the XVIII and XIX centuries opposed all the modern achievements of democracy, such as religious liberty and other rights.

Benedict has tried to reduce the Church to a fortress to defend herself from modernity, and he saw Vatican II as a Trojan Horse through which it could enter. He did not deny Vatican II, but he interpreted it in the light of Vatican Council I, that is centered on the figure of the Pope with monarchical power, absolute and infallible.

This produced a great centralization in Rome, under the direction of the Pope, who, poor pope!, has to guide a Catholic population the size of China. This has brought a great conflict to the Church and even to whole episcopacies, such as the German and the French.

It has contaminated with suspicion the atmosphere of the internal Church, resulting in the creation of groups, the emigration of many Catholics of the community and accusations of relativism and of parallel teaching. In other words, in the Church there no longer lived a frank and open fraternity, a spiritual home common to all.

The profile of the new Pope, in my opinion, should not be that of a man of power nor of a man of the institution. Where there is power love does not exist and mercy disappears. The new Pope should be a pastor, closer to the faithful and to all human beings, independently of their moral, political and ethnic situations.

He should have as a motto the words of Jesus mentioned above: "and he who cometh to me I will in no wise cast out", because Jesus of Nazareth welcomed everyone, from a prostitute such as Magdalen to a theologian such as Nicodemus.

He should not be a man of the West that is seen now as an accident of history, but a man of the vast globalized world who feels a passion for the poor and for the suffering cry of the Earth, devastated by consumerist greed.

He should not be a man of certitudes but someone who encourages all to find better paths. He would logically be guided by the Gospels but without a proselytizing spirit, with the consciousness that the Spirit always arrives before the missionary and that the Word illuminates all men and women who come to this world, as Gospel writer Saint John says.

He should be a profoundly spiritual man open to all religious paths, that together they keep alive the sacred flame that is in every person: the mysterious presence of God. And, finally, he should be a man of profound goodness, in the style of Pope John XXIII, with tenderness for the humble and a prophetic firmness to denounce those who promote exploitation and who make of violence and war instruments to dominate others and the world.

May a man of this type prevail in the negotiations of the cardinals in the conclave and over the tensions of the tendencies. How the Holy Spirit works there is a mystery. He has no other voice, or other head, than those of the Cardinals. May the Spirit not fail them.

 



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The Holy Spirit is with this man...
written by Lloyd Cata, February 28, 2013
...and you see he neither fears, nor turns away, from the Truth!

My mother, departed these many years(God Bless), did teach me to "tell the Truth and shame the Devil". For we are believers in Good and Evil. So, I say to you, in all ernest, if my own Blessed Mother should appear to me in the form of Evil, should I say, "Mother, thou art beautiful!"?

Joao, we have discussed this 'liberation theology' in many prior threads. Particularly the thread by Sen. Cristovam Buarque, in which I laid out clearly my 'disappointment' with Rome. Having been an orphan, and a ward of the Church, I came away with a deep and abiding relationship with God, and my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. This relationship stands more strongly today because I have 'witnessed' the Miracle of Faith.

My disappointment is not 'of' the Church, it is 'in' the Church, because the Church is the people, who are the 'body' of Christ. As I have also said, "There is no power in Latin America greater than the Catholic Church". Indeed, 600 years of Faith has finally revealed the Truth. So, I am going to revert to our last discussion on 'corruption', ...and did I not, many times expose the corruption of all Seven Churches, that they have been corrupted by the 'morals' and 'ethics' of Imperialism, Greed, and Avarice. The Spirit withers in an "unclean house", ...ever notice that?

So, my brother, Christian-Catholic-Theologian Leonardo Boff sees clearly, and in the lonely times he weeps for his Holy Mother Church, but he has, and will have, for Life Everlasting, and unabiding Love for the Truth. That he endures the rebuke of his 'superiors' with humility and grace only speaks to his acceptance that "God's will be done!". Which is not the same as 'silence', which was done, and is still being done today with too many congregations that would like to speak out about their conditions of oppression under Evil. How is this not permitted? Jesus made the dumb to speak! Just as the 'only' act of anger ever attributed to my Lord and Saviour is when he lashed the 'money-changers' for even corrupting the entrance of the Temple.

As Christians, when we question ourselves, we should ask, "what would Jesus do?" instead of surrendering to the dictates of secular potentates, or trying to 'use' their ethics to advance the Church. So, on this point, I wish to implore the prelates in Rome to understand, "Your relationship is between God and Man, not God and the Law". The Law is a fickle master, whose disquise comes in many forms. According to 'present' US Law, anyone who challenges the 'interests' of the US Government can be Summarily Executed, without benefit of Law. The only other time this has occurred is when Pharoahs and Emperors walked the Earth.

The Apostle Paul, who you know is my favorite, could not be put to death by anyone, not even Ceasar without trial, huh? Noone on Earth was allowed to kill a Roman without violent response. Yet, Mr. Obama can cover the Earth with drones, killing US enemies, or causing "indiscriminate casualties" without "Christian Instruction" from the church. Yet, Syria - that cohesion of Christain/Muslim faith has now confronted Rome with serious dilemna concerning the Syrian Christian community. While Rome plays geopolitics with imperialists, Christians are slaughtered 'indiscriminately'. The Vatican State Dept. cannot be Mrs. Clinton, they are bound by their Oath to God, so there is only one wish I have for the new Pope, Heir to Peters Throne, Vicar of Christ, and 'Servant' of the Faithful, "Dear Holy Father, please use plenty of soap and water, for 'every' Church around the world, that they may be cleansed of the filth that has gathered in dark corners."

...and so my friends, I was going to use this in the last thread, because I neither honor nor condemn Comrade Doctor Ernesto "Che" Guevara;

"Above all, always be capable of feeling deeply any injustice committed against anyone, anywhere in the world. This is the most beautiful quality in a revolutionary."

Somewhere in Heaven there is room for justice, mercy, and compassion for my brother, as he did 'try' to do by violence what is best accomplished by Truth. If you are fighting against injustice, carrying the Truth is the only weapon that survives the battle. Understandably, after all his travels(Paul) throughout Latin America, the Liars wore him down, and he turned to violence; "fighting fire with fire - the mark of revolution".
Webster Tarpley – he gives a very good historical facts about the papacy
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, February 28, 2013

Ricardo: Webster Tarpley – he talks about sales tax on Wall Street trading, and he gives a very interesting historical info about the papacy.

Webster Tarpley: World Crisis Radio Broadcast - Feb 16 2013
http://youtu.be/cph0yOAywiA

Webster Griffin Tarpley (Pittsfield, Massachusetts, 1946) is a philosopher of history who seeks to provide the programs and strategies needed to overcome the current world crisis. As an activist historian he first became widely known for his book George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography (1992), a masterpiece of research which is still a must read. AB Princeton 1966, summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa; Fulbright Scholar at University of Turin, Italy; MA in humanities from Skidmore College; and Ph.D. in early modern history from the Catholic University of America with emphasis on the role of Venice in the origins of the Thirty Years' War (1618-164smilies/cool.gif. He has addressed audiences in Italian, German, and French. A decades-long expert on international terrorism, his 1978 study commissioned by an Italian government minister and entitled "Chi ha ucciso Aldo Moro?" (Who Killed Aldo Moro?) broke open the ownership of the Red Brigades by NATO's clandestine networks.

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Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, February 28, 2013

I am glad you liked Dr.Leonardo Boff´s article. He is indeed a controversial ex-priest and theologian. In a way he represents the thinking of a vast majority Brasilan Catholics. I am not sure if you are aware that Brasil is a secular country that allows religious freedom and fortunately we are not "Catholic Republic of Brasil"smilies/wink.gif

Even more amazing is that Brasil has the largest Catholic population in the world; larger than that of Portugal,Spain and Italy combined. Here is an interesting link:

http://blog.estadaodados.com/b...para-papa/

(If you haven't mastered our language yet, you may seek the help of your grandson.smilies/wink.gif). Alternatively, our friend Ricardo(who I knew wouldn't miss the opportunity to honor us by joining the debate) should be able translate it for ya.smilies/cheesy.gif

In a nutshell, it says that Brasil has just 5 cardinals who represent 4% of the electoral college while selecting the next Pope. So our "Catholic" compatriots and African brethren may wish for eternity that the next Pope is from our respective regions. But....but....but...,IMHO, the next Emperor of Vatican is going to be an American.smilies/grin.gif

P.S. to Ricardo: What say you, Rickey?
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, February 28, 2013

I am reproducing the comment posted by our comrade-in-arms, ASP in the "other" thread:

joao ...computor problems

oh man, cata,what the f**k with the quotes and your name,like you are quotable...

"lolyd cata knows nothing about che...him and fidel are f**king racists"
asp

"raised in the south bronx, part indian, african and greek, served his country in vietnam,with so much credibilty and good things, what went wrong with lolyd cata?" asp(i was ducking bullets, and standing up to gangs, on the south side of chicago at that time...)

"anybody who thinks anywhere in the world that fighting for communism is a freedom fighter, has it all wrong, they are freedom f**kers,they f**k freedom in the ass...." asp (i dont do google searches to debate about africa, that is why i tell the real truth about brazil and what is happening , its real life , reality, not arm chair quarterbacking, based on 26 years of living here and doing the real research, the kind the media wont give you here either)

yeah, cata, the brazilian generals are waiting for you to grab you on the tarmac when you arrive, because no one gives a flying f**k about their opinion about what happened in the dictatorship...they are only waiting for you


The last paragraph is very intimidating. smilies/shocked.gif Never mind ASP´s "threat". I'll use my connections & get one or more of "them" to lay a red carpet on the tarmac.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

Cheers ASP
...
written by Jenny, March 01, 2013
Flow of funds: Where else can investment dollars go? Bank deposits and CD’s – I don’t think so. Medium and/or long-term bonds? Suicide, unless you believe we are headed to deflation/depression (How likely is it that the Fed will not do everything in its power to prevent this as it is doing now?). If the Fed cannot reverse any future downward deflationary spiral, it’s ‘game over.’ The Fed and our elected dolts in congress will continue the party until they can’t – and probably a lot longer than you or I care to admit. What was that old saw about the market being able to continue in a confounding and contrary direction longer than your liquidity? Push comes to shove, our government (however you define that, TPTB, etc) will use America’s two aces up the sleve: (1) our vast natural resources – the carrot, and (2) our unsurpassed military strength – the stick. Just pray that a Black Swan doesn’t show up on our doorstep.
Ricardo Amaral
written by Lloyd Cata, March 01, 2013
It is good to see you are well, and still trying to prove that 'elite trader' is the fount of all wisdom(yours!)smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/wink.gif

Ahhh, my friend, an education is a wonderful thing to have, but as I have said, "it is only as good as the Truth of the matter". For myself, Aristotle suffices to allow me to parse the daily ignorance in this world. Did you know that Aristotle was 'teacher' to Alexander the Great? Oh, he too was well traveled(Discovery). Moving from place to place in search of 'knowledge', and what he found has still not been adequately deciphered by the scholars. You see, many think of my Master as a Philosopher, but he was in fact an Artist. You see, Aristotle was the only man I know who did not -eat- from the "Tree of Knowledge"; he painted the picture! That his God and mine were different matters not, because his life was dedicated to Truth. # ...and when you are properly educated 'the Logic of Truth becomes clear'.smilies/cool.gif

I see you have shed your love of the 'capitalist model' which relies on ignorance in order to build a better world. Sleight-of-hand, picking each others pockets. Actually there is more Truth in RT these days than the US tabloid shows. What would we do without this internet medium that 'informs' the world? You know, don't you, that the capitalists have every incentive to shut down the Truth as the communists. Both rely on the popularity of propaganda, which means that both are subject to start ignorant and costly 'foreign adventures'. The change today is that the world is watching -live- the evil they do. When you have a house built on lies perhaps you should not try to build so high(crash)smilies/shocked.gif

Many say this medium is bad, even evil, because of all the propaganda and filth online, but I find this medium to be just what is need to spread the Truth. Truly, at one point I thought I was exceptional, and now I know a world of exceptional people, and I am thrilled to see the progress in countering lies and liars.

Uderstanding that your theological 'studies' pale in comparison to your knowledge of markets and historysmilies/wink.gif, however I propose that Heaven is not closed to you either. Because a man may not 'believe/know' of God, but God knows of you smilies/wink.gif
Fear, And Other Devices Used To Enslave Humanity
written by Lloyd Cata, March 01, 2013
"You cannot enslave a man who does not fear you" - ancient unknown

Joao, that ignorance(asp) does amuse me, at times, there is no reason for me to fear threats from generals or bundas. I have had them, and the papers to prove it, sir. Perhaps the US Dept. of Defense could inform him further, but he should remember that their testimony comes with bullets.

As for the 'red carpet'! ...since I am unfamiliar with the 'protocols'smilies/smiley.gif of such a reception I beg to decline your generous offer, leaving such amenities to the more deserving, such as our new Pontiff.smilies/smiley.gif
The Emperor And The Pope
written by Lloyd Cata, March 01, 2013
Joao, although I know you have a sharp ear, and do hear the grasshoppers heartbeatsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif, I must disagree about the American choice. Looking among the list of American 'eligibles' I find none who would advance the -thinking- of the Church. Such blatant subservience to the Emperor at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. would surely cause a rift in the fabric of the Church.

The good Cardinals in Rome, having eyes on the next world, will not bow to such an outcome, ...knowing how Humanity is not so enamored with all things "Made in USA". Methinks even some US clergy might not like to see such an outcome, eh? There are already 5 Catholics on the US Supreme Court, the Catholic representation in the US government is 'increasing', and Opus Dei represents Rome's interests among the US Oligarchy.

There is no 'upside' to choosing an American. Even the American prelates must know this. No, ...this is a difficult choice, because what was hidden has already been revealedsmilies/shocked.gif To choose someone -not- American, but aligned with American 'interests' is a more credible outcome. Sadly, the Europeans are still in need of spiritual leadership, so I am expecting another Euro, ...if only to restore their 'crisis in confidence' to go along with their financial difficulties. As you see, they now need props(Nobel/IMF/Davos) to keep their dream alive, ...because their children are jobless and no longer believe their lies, "It's a crapper mate!".

I have never concerned myself with nationality as a measure of anything. Oh, these people are...! And I know I go on about the Swiss and Hitler, just as I do about the Jews and Palestinians. // Nationality does not make the policy // - Germans are not evil because they spawned Hitler, neither are Americans evil because they elected Bush. Yet, the consequences are attributed to the entire society, which is unfortunate.

However, I understand your thinking on choosing an American so that there is some 'supervision' of the Plantation.smilies/cheesy.gif As you know, the Imperialists and colonialists are known to have a priest on hand to absolve their sins and pray for the departed. smilies/sad.gifsmilies/wink.gif Something that has gone so far as to put the clergy in the 'uniform' of the military, and taking 'orders' from those neither qualified nor appointed by God to give such 'orders'.(...more on that later - 22/day! US veteran suicide)smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/sad.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/cry.gif Probable cause for investigation? Probably not!

Gotta run....will leave with this;

http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/TwoWolves-Cherokee.html

My people did not know of Jesus Christ, but they knew the Truth. Most are gone now, a promise extinguished on the Alter of Imperialism. We are left with but a remnant. Yet, as you see, the Truth survives the battle;

http://www.bibleinfo.com/en/topics/remnant
Curse the alter of Imperialism!
written by Limpopo, March 01, 2013
Yes, but despite the rhetoric, the "Alter of Imperialism" looks like a far safer and superior bet today in Mali, Niger, Nigeria, Sudan, Kenya, and other north African states than the alternative oppression offered by the
Islamists.
I almost fell off my chair laughing while watching the interview with the Mali cab driver who wished the French would return to power in his country. My gosh! What is the world coming to when we wish for a French overlord!smilies/wink.gif
Limpopo Speaks....
written by Lloyd Cata, March 01, 2013
You sir, must join me for c**ktails, and other refreshments smilies/wink.gif asap. See, when I say there are exceptional 'others', it is those who SEE through the BS smilies/cool.gif

Just a 'little truth' from the 'ground'. "You will wish you had licked my boot when the 'terrorists' get to you!"smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/shocked.gif

It appears that Cel. Ederson has the right assistant - finally!smilies/cheesy.gif

How could it be otherwise, when you invite the snake into your house in order to kill the mouse? Then when your house is destroyed(everything stolen), they have a banker(IMF/WB) to get you over the hump, or until they need your a$$ets again. Oh,...by that time you will be severely in debt, because you probably went on a gun-buying spree; http://goo.gl/22xFS:(smilies/sad.gifsmilies/sad.gif

Joao, have I not said, "you will burn down your house just to get rid of the FARC/Narco/Cartel thugs"?

Europe must supply the troops[US exhausted with war], but the USA will certainly supply(AFRICOM) and coordinate(STATE/CIA) the effort.

Yet, any excuse will do. Many people today in Brazil, and other climes, long for the return of the generals? Times were good, because the imperialists will give the generalissimos anything they 'like' to get the 'gold'. smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cry.gif Libya is not that different from Colombia; any 'excuse' will do once people are 'afraid', huh?smilies/shocked.gif They always have the 'solution' because "suffering is manufactured and poverty is a cash crop". Your own generals are 'paid' to keep you silent, and if your not silent they have better solutionsmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/sad.gifsmilies/cry.gifsmilies/shocked.gif
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 01, 2013

It appears that Cel. Ederson has the right assistant - finally!


Sgt.Arsewipe doesn't sound to be a bad bloke. For Heaven's sake he has even heard of Mali.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Ah think you should pay more attention to the comments of this youngster.smilies/cool.gif
Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 01, 2013

Part 1 of 2

Ricardo: Lloyd it is good to see you are also well. Regarding the Elite Trader Forum I have bad news for you.

I used to be the most popular member of the Elite Trader forum for the last 7 and 1/2 years and a lot people used to check my postings on a regular basis - I had over 5,100 postings and started over 350 threads over the years on that website and during that time I helped that website grow from 19,000 members when I started posting on ET to more than 200,000 members today. Over the years I brought hundred of thousands of readers to that website because of my articles and postings.

But on January 19, 2013 they closed my account on ET without any warning because they don't want people to see my postings about Brazil. They also deleted about 900 postings of mine basically on 3 threads which I am reconstructing and I am re-posting the information on my blog.

1) Goldman Sachs is it a Cancer or just a Parasite of the US financial system?

The information about “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” was posted at the Elite Trader Economics Forum from April 11, 2010 to December 31, 2012.

When the people at Elite Trader Forum decided to delete all that excellent information about “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” and their network of thieves – during these 3 years that we had been postings on that thread we had over 43,000 viewers.


2) Central Banks and US Dollar

I am reconstructing that thread as well since the thread had excellent information about the currency markets and the currency wars.


3) Threads about the “Israeli Lobby” and their destructive influence in the US Congress regarding the US foreign policy – The “Israeli Lobby” manipulates on a regular basis the US Foreign policy in a way that goes completely against the self-interest of the United States in the short and long run. The “Israeli Lobby” destructive influence is like a cancer for the United States.


The people at the Elite Trader who had been reading my articles and postings at Brazzil magazine and at the ET forum knew that over the years many of my predictions came to past about the euro, the real , about the price of gold, and also about what has been happening between Brazil and China.

I had been calling for the devaluation of the real by 42 percent against the US dollar, and it took a little time but the rate reached the US dollar 1 = Real 2 exchange rate a few months ago.

When I was calling for the devaluation of the real by 42 percent that would have brought the exchange rate to the US dollar 1 = Real 2.

For the last 2 years I had been calling for the Brazilian Central Bank to sell at least US$ 350 billion of US dollars that Brazil has in foreign currency reserves and replace it with gold.

Finally, the Brazilian government started replacing its US dollar reserves with gold since September of 2012 and I hope that they continue doing that and dump the debased US dollar before we have a real collapse of that currency.

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Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 01, 2013

Part 2 of 2


For the first time in 7 and a half years the Elite Trader forum had deleted one of my postings, and when I posted it again that information they terminated my account.

On that posting I mentioned that Brazil was finally buying gold as I had been suggesting for the last 2 years, and that Brazil should replace at least US$ 350 Billion dollar with gold.

I also said the following on my posting that got me banished from the Elite Trader Forum:

Regarding Brazil and the Brazilian Economy in 2013:

President Dilma Rousseff should keep Guido Mantega as the Finance Minister in Brazil, and she should ignore “The Economist” magazine suggestion.

“The Economist” magazine suggested recently that President Dilma Rousseff should fire the Brazilian Finance Minister Guido Mantega.

President Rousseff should ignore this silly suggestion from “The Economist”, and take it with a grain of salt considering the source of such a suggestion.

Guido Mantega has been guiding the Brazilian economy the best way he can considering the massive mess that we have in Euroland, and also in the United States that affects the Brazilian economy.

Guido Mantega has been doing a superb job in putting in place the policies to protect the Brazilian economy, and place it in a path for prosperity in the coming years.

Finance Minister Guido Mantega should: Keep up the good work!!!!!

I understand that this attack by “The Economist” it is part of the “Currency Wars” that is going on - “The Economist” should concentrate and continue to give their precious advice to a bankrupt England and “The Bank of England’s” new boss Mark Carney; another gang member of “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” and their network of thieves.

“The Economist”, and also the “Financial Times (UK)” doesn't like the interest rate, and currency policies that Finance Minister Guido Mantega, and the Brazilian Central Bank are following in Brazil, because they want Brazil to offer higher interest rates for the “Hot Money” - since Ben Bernanke (and the Federal Reserve) is keeping a very low artificial interest rate in the United States in a major effort to resuscitate the U.S. financial and economic system.

The “Currency Wars” is going to move to a new level in 2013 as the European Central Bank, the U.S. Federal Reserve, the Central Bank of China, the Japanese Central Bank, and the Bank of England under their new “Godfather” Mark Carney continue their race to the bottom.

Finance Minister Guido Mantega, and the Brazilian Central Bank should keep adjusting the interest rates in Brazil accordingly to the “Currency Wars”, and as the markets deteriorate in Europe and in the United States, they should continue to reduce further the interest rates in Brazil (Selic rate) to a level around 5 percent.

Many people asked me if the year 2013 will be a rough year for the Brazilian economy as it continues to adjust the internal market to achieve a sound economic and financial system for the long term.

I remind my friends that even though 2013 it will be a very tough year for the Brazilian economy – they should look at from the correct perspective: when compared with the massive mess in Euroland, and the US economy, and the adjustments in the Asian economies – the Brazilian economy it will do better than these other competitors.

There's an important adjustment that Finance Minister Guido Mantega still need to implement in Brazil to raise income for the Brazilian government, and also to bring a better foundation to the stock market in Brazil: Finance Minister Guido Mantega need to create and adopt a financial transactions tax (FTT) to kill high frequency trading (HFT) in Brazil, and the distortion, the market instability, and the pillage of assets that (HFT) brings to the stock market.


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Note: About 4 or 5 years ago a friend recommend that I start writing and posting on Asia Times Online - and I did post few items on that website over the years, since January of 2013 I started postings all the information that I used to post at the ET forum on the Asia Times Online forum for the actual audience that is relevant for the future of Brazil and the BRICS in the next decades.

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Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 01, 2013

Ricardo: Until they elect a new pope, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, 78 will be temping as the new pope.

Quando não há um papa, é o chamado cardeal camerlengo quem fica a cargo da Igreja Católica, ainda que com poderes reduzidos. Desta vez, o ocupante da vaga é o italiano Tarcisio Bertone, 78.

http://aovivo.folha.uol.com.br...vivo.shtml


Joao, I just have one question:

Until they elect a new pope, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone will be temping as the new pope - I wonder if he will be allowed to use the popemobile?

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Economic Theorists and the Pillage People
written by Lloyd Cata, March 01, 2013
//But on January 19, 2013 they closed my account on ET without any warning // - Ricardo Amaral

You really must keeep your ear closer to the ground, to see such things comingsmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif -or- ask our favorite moderatorsmilies/wink.gif Didn't I say he could hear a grasshoppers heartbeatsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

// Goldman Sachs is it a Cancer or just a Parasite of the US financial system? // - - Ricardo Amaral

Now you disappoint me, my friend; Goldman & Sacks(...of $'s) have been manipulating the US Federal Reserve since it was 'invented'. smilies/shocked.gif Definitely a parasite, b-b-but spreading their cancer around the world, eh?smilies/wink.gif

// dump the debased US dollar before we have a real collapse of that currency. // - Ricardo Amaral

The 'trick' my friend is to flood the world markets with dollars.smilies/angry.gif It can only go so low(calculated to hurt 'everyone!) If 'you' dump it ruins the dumpee who still has dollar-based investments? Your quite right that anyone in dollars when it busts will be shooting themselves in the foot. smilies/cry.gifsmilies/cry.gifsmilies/cry.gif "In God We Trust"; when nothing could be further from the Truth. smilies/angry.gif

// Finance Minister Guido Mantega need to create and adopt a financial transactions tax (FTT) to kill high frequency trading (HFT) in Brazil //

Oh noooo!!! Not a regressive tax!'( That plays into their hands. Remember the point of printing $4T since the beginning of the century is to -create- INFLATION! Did I not tell you ~2 years ago that the US game plan was to "export inflation"? What they are doing is 'reverse engineering' YOUR economy through currency manipulation(yeah, I know...you got that part right) smilies/cool.gif

Did you see the new Japanese Finance Minister? He's going 'all in' on the currency manipulation scheme. You see, he knows it works because that's what the US did to Japan during Reagan. They thought their currency would allow them to buy the US, but lo-and-behold, ...they suddenly have a real estate meltdown, which they still haven't recovered from. Study of the currency markets during this time(80's-90's) will show how the US(Reagan) ripped off the Japanese for $2T, which they used to finance Star Wars.smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cool.gif

So far Dilma and Guido Mantega have played a cautious hand;
// Brazil Raises Gas Prices 6.6%, But Markets Say This is Not Enough // - Brazzil smilies/cool.gif (see my comments...)smilies/shocked.gif

Tell you a little secretsmilies/grin.gif They 'need' to put Iran back into the mix for this to work with the 'hot money'. Getting this right is more important than Israeli agendas. Well you know that this is a $600T+ gamble, so how far do you think anybody holding dollars is going to let it fall. 25%??? Think of what a 25% drop in the dollar looks like....economic armageddon for YOU, Brazil. smilies/angry.gifsmilies/cry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/cry.gif So, just as you did with the last round, 'everyone' will try(wasted Reals!) to keep the dollar up as the US kindly floods the world with dollars. Now you spent YOUR money to save their bacon. Oil barons got out early(no more Petro-dollars, huh?)smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Good thing Brazil is send $100,000 students abroad and I see them buying up real estate in the US. This is exactly what I recommended when QE started; spend every dollar you can for assets and equities. Do not be holding dollars when the flood hits - TOO LATE!smilies/angry.gifsmilies/cry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/cry.gif:
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, March 01, 2013

Joao, I just have one question:

Until they elect a new pope, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone will be temping as the new pope - I wonder if he will be allowed to use the popemobile?


As long as he is not behind the driving wheel and instead hires a chauffeur who has an International Driver's license, Rickey. smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

BTW, you think Cardinal Bertone is vying to be the next Pope? Me think so.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

Another BTW: Dr.Boff is from our state!
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 01, 2013

Many people today in Brazil, and other climes, long for the return of the generals?


Not really, L.C. People like strong, serious & fair play leaders, with unquestionable integrity. The narration of Arsewipe's interview given by the Mali Cab Driver to the international Telly is very interesting, indeed. Sheisse, ole boy, a Negão from longing for the return of the "French Over Lords"?smilies/shocked.gif

If Mali wants the "Great White Fathers" to recolonize their country, ah nominate Sarko to be their President & DSK as their Prime Minister. The job of their Sec of Def should go to Joe, your senator from CT.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Ricardo
written by Lloyd Cata, March 01, 2013
BTW. I have the DOW at 25,000 in 2018, "not adjusted" for the 'market maneuver' that I expect from the FED to keep everyone 'interested'.

Just in from my Twitter feed;

//Salon.com
UK's sneaky terror strategy: Strip suspects of citizenship before the US blasts them with drones http://slnm.us/zRJpj2L //

Guess its back to the 'reservation' for blokes like mesmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/smiley.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 01, 2013

They 'need' to put Iran back into the mix for this to work with the 'hot money'.


Pray explain?smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Getting this right is more important than Israeli agendas.


Request "Arsewipe" to confirm or deny L.C.'s affirmation.smilies/cool.gif
Lloyd Cata's affirmation
written by Limpopo, March 01, 2013
Lloyd Cata certainly doesn't need the endorsement of Ederson or of his able assistant. Doctor Cata's relentless, dogged pursuit of the truth proceeds him. Actually, I'm enjoying his point of view.

Limpopo stems from the Sepedi word for waterfall. It's also the province in which Polokwane [Pietersburg] is located. Beautiful country.

And yes, Limpopo knows where Mali is. smilies/smiley.gif
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written by João da Silva, March 01, 2013

Limpopo stems from the Sepedi word for waterfall. It's also the province in which Polokwane [Pietersburg] is located. Beautiful country.


My sincere apologies and thanks for clarifying. In our language, it implies something else.Shame on me for being so rude and crass.smilies/sad.gif
João da Silva
written by Lloyd Cata, March 01, 2013
// They 'need' to put Iran back into the mix for this to work with the 'hot money'. // - Pray explain?

Once you asked me what signs to look for(?), and I responded; dollars and oil(refinery capacity). I think this was around the time of QE-1. You see, Iran does -not- have the refineries because of their militant posture, so they will sell oil as cheaply as the market will allow. This is not good for the rest of the market, who have to follow Mr. Bernanke's 'formula' for inflation. If oil does not 'follow' the inflation bubble up then there will be a 'disconnect', and oil 'must' follow the dollar down, because it is the single most inflationary item that covers everything.

Do you see how they manipulate the price of gas here in the US by closing refineries during peak use(...excuses from Iran, Chinese drivers, repairs, etc). If the price of oil does not rise in lockstep with inflation(dollars) then you get to "too many dollars chasing too few barrels". Iran might actually benefit from the dollar drop. There was once talk of $200/brl, and that's the number that's in the FED agenda.

Why do you think when Dilma raise the price 6.6%, they scream, "Not enough!". If Brazil keeps the price of 'energy' low that translates into reduced inflation, which is definitely not on the programsmilies/angry.gif They will try many things to 'force' the inflation on the world.
The Japanese Gambit
written by Lloyd Cata, March 02, 2013
Because of the Chinese 'threat', Japan has no choice but to follow the Western economic/military formula, -and- not be caught 'again' in another currency trap. This also plays out with N/S Korea, which you see the North blowing off nuke firecrackers while South Korea gets new US missiles that can reach Beijing smilies/angry.gif No nukes yet, but you see both Japan and South Korea 'thinking' nukes of their own. Both have the technology! ...among other tech, that we don't even want to talk aboutsmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/shocked.gif

That's also another reason for the lessening of Iran sanctions, because there will certainly be new members of the nuclear club. It is both a gamble and threat to Beijing, but I think Washington has given the Green Light to nuclear expansion.(So much for Mr. Obama's 'former' nuclear position, huh? What's a few nukes between friends?!) Did I not tell you Brazil was noticably missing from the HEU turnovers? smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gif

Did you see the Indian program of 'nuke preparedness' for the Kashmir region? India/US -afraid- Paki nuke will fall into Taliban hands.smilies/angry.gif India has already indicated that if that scenario unfolds, they will immediately 'first strike' with nukes! Iran having nukes is one thing. smilies/sad.gif Taliban having nukes is not even acceptable to Iran. Forget North Korea or Iran, those Paki nukes are not secure enough for -anybody-, and the Indian position becomes almost 'sane' to just turn Waziristan into a slag heap(low-intensity/3-5KT should do it). smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/cool.gif Problem solved!smilies/cry.gifsmilies/cry.gifsmilies/cry.gif
Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 02, 2013

Part 1 of 2

Ricardo: Lloyd, regarding the thread: “Central Banks and US Dollar”

I am reconstructing that thread as well since the thread had excellent information about the currency markets and the currency wars.

That thread was one of the most popular threads on the Elite Trader Forum, and when they deleted that thread on January 19, 2013 that thread had over 140,000 viewers.

Lloyd, you said about “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People”: “Definitely a parasite, b-b-but spreading their cancer around the world, eh?

I want to remind you about what “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” is all about as follows:

Goldman Sachs is the most powerful Mafia family in the United States in every way, and more profitable than any of their peers:

1) Goldman Sachs the Pillage People
2) Lucchese
3) Bonanno
4) Gambino
5) Colombo
6) Genovese



Note: “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” has two members of their network of thieves placed in strategic positions in Europe one as Prime Minister of Italy – Mario Monti – and the other one as European Central Bank President - Mario Draghi – I wonder how “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” will perform against their peers in Italy.

Mark J. Carney, the former governor of the Bank of Canada, having spent much of a career in investment banking with “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” and their network of thieves – and now Mark J. Carney moves on to his next racket as the new governor of the of the Bank of England.


Here is how “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” peers are organized in Italy:

Organised crime families in Italy


Although the original Mafia in Italy are from Sicily, the problem of organised crime in Italy is something that affects the entire country. Today there are believed to be 4 or 5 main Mafia families operating in Italy and in many cases with criminal enterprises spanning two or three continents. These Mafia families in Italy have up to several thousand members. The main mafia groups in Italy are outlined below.

The Sicilian Mafia in Italy

The Sicilian Mafia is the original mafia in Italy and dates back to the 19th century. The term Mafia is not one that is actually used by members of this crime organisation in Italy. The term cosa nostra or ‘our thing’ is preferred by Sicilian mafia members. Like all mafia groups in Italy, the Sicilian Mafia operates a code of honour and has a strict hierarchical structure. Recruits to the Mafia are sworn in to the family through secret ceremonies, after which point they become mafia members and are expected to stay so for life. The Sicilian mafia is most famous to the outside world because of its branch in America which arose out of mass migration from Sicily in the late 19th century. Inside Italy, The Sicilian mafia is particularly known for its assassinations of high profile figures including police chiefs, judges and politicians.

The Naples Mafia in Italy

The power of the Naples mafia was recently attested to when in 2004 police were literally surrounded and made hostage by a whole neighbourhood when they tried to capture a leader of the Naples Mafia. The Naples Mafia in Italy is known as the Camorra. The origins of the Naples Mafia are believed to date back to the 19th century when it was formed as a prison gang. Over the years inmates were released and began to operate their criminal enterprises in and around Naples. Today there are believed to be about 7000 members of the Naples Mafia who operate in about 100 small families. The criminal activities for which the Naples Mafia is most known are cigarette and drug smuggling as well as counterfeiting.

The Calabria Mafia in Italy

This mafia family in Italy is known as the 'Ndrangheta. The origins of this mafia group date back to the 19th century when a group of Sicilians were expelled from Sicily by the newly formed unified government. These Sicilians settled in the Calabria region and began to form small crime groups. Today the Calabria Mafia is believed to have about 6000 members who are particularly hard to infiltrate because the organisation is based on blood ties and marriage.

The Puglia Mafia

The Puglia Mafia is known as Sacra Corona Unita or SCU which means the sacred united crown. This is the newest of the Mafia groups in Italy and only became known in the 1980’s. It is believed to have originated as a prison gang whose inmates settled in the Puglia region upon release. This Mafia gang collects money from other Mafia families in Italy for landing rights in south east Italy, which is a lucrative enterprise because this is where all the smuggled goods and people from Eastern Europe are most likely to land.

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Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 02, 2013

Part 2 of 2


Note: It will be very interesting if the Italian mafia decides to eliminate their competition, mainly a predator that is moving into their turf to pillage everything in sight.

I can't wait for the movie to come out “The War of the Mafias” - how “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” got their ass kicked by the Real Italian mafia.



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“Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” is specialized in all kinds of Scams, Swindle, Fraud, Naked Short Selling, overpriced IPO's, sub-prime garbage, and innovative ways to screw people at any time, and anywhere around the globe.

The revolution against "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" is just starting in the United States......

The city of Oakland should get together with at least 100 other cities around the country that have the same interest rate problem with "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" and work together to void all these contracts.

If "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" has participated in any way in interest rate manipulation then all these contracts should be void, and all these cities should start a lawsuit against "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" to recuperate the interest rate that they paid during that period.

Basically, you are an idiot if you still are doing business with "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" and their network of thieves.

I wrote a number of times on Brazzil magazine trying to alert the corporations and the government employees at all levels to not do any business in Brazil with "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People", and I took the time to explain why they should not do business with these crooks and very unethical people.

It seems to me that it does not matter how much information is published on a regular basis, but there are always a bunch of fools that never learn their lesson until they lose their money to people such as Bernie Madoff and "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People".

The world is waking up and people are realizing that “Goldman Sachs the Pillage People” is nothing more than a big “FRAUD” and a big piece of s**t.

Their culture and smooth way of operating might impress some fools with their sleek ways, fancy clothing, smooth talking, expensive wine and dine, and over rated diplomas from the top schools, they can use all that camouflage, but behind the mask they are just a big piece of s**t and nothing else.

In March 2012 I posted the following on Brazzil magazine: “I am sorry to say that, but companies such as "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" will destroy the Brazilian economic and financial system as they do in every place that these crooks do business.

I know well the Brazilian mentality and they a ripe for "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" to clean them up to the last dime.

It is a waste of time to bring that subject up here on Brazzil magazine, because the Brazilians from all kinds of corporations, and also the fools that work for the government at all levels are going to learn a lesson the hard way, when "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" turn Brazil and the entire financial system in Brazil into the chaos that we have today in Greece.

Brazilians should look at Greece to see what is in store for the future when you fools do any type of business with world-class crooks of companies such as "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People".

For "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" it will be like taking candy away from kids - and these guys are going to set up Brazil for a big fall as they do everywhere they conduct business.

They are going to pillage everything in sight in Brazil, and the gullible Brazilians are going to bend over and let "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" do what they do best - they screw everybody that they do business with.

I can't be more clear than that about what is in store for Brazilians and the Brazilian economy with the compliments of "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" and their network of thieves.”

There is so much crap going on here in the United States, and also in Europe than is not even funny - and these guys have the balls to criticize Guido Mantega - the one person who is fighting against the non-sense coming out of the US Federal Reserve and also from the European Central Bank.

If anything Brazil should avoid doing any type of business with "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" and their network of thieves.

Today, "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" and their network of thieves, control Greece, Italy, the European Central Bank, the US Federal Reserve and Treasury, and their latest conquest is the Bank of England.

It seems to me that the "Goldman Sachs the Pillage People" Mafia family and their network of thieves are trying to take over the world one country at the time.

And you can bet that these crooks also want to set Brazil for a fall for them to pillage everything in sight.

You have to be a JACKASS and an idiot to do any type of business with these crooks.

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Limpopo Knows....
written by Lloyd Cata, March 02, 2013
// Limpopo stems from the Sepedi word for waterfall. It's also the province in which Polokwane [Pietersburg] is located. Beautiful country. // -Limpopo

// My sincere apologies and thanks for clarifying. In our language, it implies something else.Shame on me for being so rude and crass. // - João da Silva


See, my friends, this is exactly why I do not try to overly 'practice' my language skills in public. It results in sometimes comical and sometimes hazardous misunderstanding. smilies/sad.gifsmilies/cry.gif

Apparently our esteemed moderator has mistaken "waterfall" for "water closet" in which my understanding 'was' that Limpopo was Cel. Ederson's bathroom attendant.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif Now that clears up why, I pondered, someone with such understanding of world events would be cleaning lavatories, not to mention taking care of the wiping function smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif Esculpa!

Now even though my understanding was in error, I was in no doubt that you were from the envvirons of excellent 'water closets', smilies/grin.gif. ...which would also account for your knowledge of Mali and other venues.smilies/wink.gif
Reply to Lloyd Cata - Joao da Silva and Ederson
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 02, 2013

Ricardo: Regarding the “Currency Wars” - you guys are going to enjoy watching these videos:

Paul Craig Roberts Interview on February 28, 2013

http://youtu.be/agWgGWiUoSs

Interview with Paul Craig Roberts former head of policy at Department of Treasury under Reagan, and the editor at The Wall Street Journal, founder of Institute for Political Economy, and prolific author. We speak about the crashing economy and why it is collapsing, austerity, corruption, Greece, the IMF, and Paul explains some of the complexities of the ill fated money system that is destroying us.


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Gerald Celente - Alex Jones Radio – March 1, 2013
http://youtu.be/p55-SD6Drvg

Feds Preparing for Economic Implosion. Alex also talks with Gerald Celente about the disintegrating economy and what is in store for America in the months ahead.

The Trends Journal® is the World's #1 source for the most important trends that are shaping the future. The Trends Journal® shows you how these trends will affect your life, how to profit from them, and what to do to avoid pitfalls. Regardless of business or profession, the Trends Journal® provides insights, strategies and opportunities to help you navigate these treacherous, unprecedented times.


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Gerald Celente - Trends In The News - "Out Of Balance" - (22 Feb 2013)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...mpHCnW0-3g

FED's monetary policy "packs punch", China's Yuan spreads it's reach & The White House refuses "legal opinions" of drone killings to congress. Original release: 2/22/13.

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Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 02, 2013

Ricardo: We should adopt in Brazil some very good Chinese common sense.

Los Angeles Times – March 1, 2013
http://www.latimes.com/news/na...1692.story


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written by João da Silva, March 02, 2013

Apparently our esteemed moderator has mistaken "waterfall" for "water closet" in which my understanding 'was' that Limpopo was Cel. Ederson's bathroom attendant


The (not so) esteemed "moderator" is a mere peasant and not a linguist nor an expert on geopolitics like Mr.Limpopo, Dr.L.C.,Dr.Rickey Amaral,Dr.McCray & Mr.ASP.smilies/sad.gifsmilies/cry.gif

Having reminded y'all of my humble background, all of you make sense. Of course, L.C. went AWOL for a long time and perhaps didn't read (or ignored) Cel.Ederson's comments on Sufis,Sunnis, the influence of Saudis in that part of the world, his prediction of events "the day after" the "Arab Spring", etc;

But...but...but...Dr.L.C.'s latest comments on Iran, the Japanese Gambit and the Indian's eagerness to turn Pakistan into slag heap are very fascinating. In this aspect, Rickey and he share very similar views.smilies/shocked.gif

My questions: 1) Are the Yanks going to make peace with Iran or lob a couple of nukes on them ? 2) Why is the "Empire" so upset with their sidekick Bashir Assad and want to throw him out?

P.S. to Rickey : You must know by now the Brasilian billionaire Jorge Lehmann and Warren Buffet joined hands and bought HEINZ. (I read Lehmann borrowed $ from BNDES to finance the deal). I don't have to tell you who the previous owner of HEINZ was .smilies/wink.gif
Tricks, Traps, Treachery, ...and The Truth
written by Lloyd Cata, March 02, 2013
// ...what the US did to Japan during Reagan. They thought their currency would allow them to buy the US, but lo-and-behold, ...they suddenly have a real estate meltdown. //

As I was re-reading, I wanted to expand on this. Right this minute, the trap is being set. Look please at the Brazilian real estate picture, from Amazonia to Sao Paulo(!). Think of Sao Paulo as Tokyo; there was a time in Tokyo that one(1) square meter of Tokyo was worth more dollars than could be stacked to the Heavens, right? How is it then that now I look at Sao Paulo prices and find New York more affordable? Ohhhh, ...when the Japanese 'thought' they were RICH, and truthfully, on paper, they were! They were buying US real estate(assets) in massive purchases. They managed to offset the pain of their "looming real estate collapse". Yet, their economy was never the same. They had lost the "momentum of opportunity" by not restraining their GREED! This is also a emerging dilemna for the Chinese today. If they allow their economy to be so 'imbalanced' by the "assumed value of things"($), surely when the Truth overcomes their assumptions, things wind up different for everyone, ...except those who fostered through entertainment and propaganda, false assumptions.

It is due to my years 'watching' these scenarios unfold that perhaps my perspective does not immediately register in the minds of many. If my failing is in interpretation, please pardon me. Yet, I hold all up to the "mirror of history", and it is through that mirror that I interpret events.

Some may wonder of my phrasing Aristotle as my Master, as he is my source for 'everything' that exists in the known universe. Truly, the only greater 'teacher' is my Lord And Savior, Jesus Christ; for he has shown me the Truth of what lies beyond.

There is much in history and theology that is more instructive than the 'education' that is being promulgated today; where in Texas schoolbooks slavery is interpreted as TansAtlantic Commerce. Like those enslaved were not 'people' at all. Even slavers are alloewd to hide under the skirts of Liars! Did I not say that, "...education is only as good as the Truth of the matter"?

Sadly, the 'hot money' has already infected your economy, and it will only get worse, because as your 2016 Olypiad approaches the 'fever' will rise. There will be protest, which economic theorists will propose potions and panaceas to correct your -thinking- as to what is happening. Your not really 'sick', ...the 'market' will correct, right? No, my friends, the illness will be fully upon you -after- you wake up from your grand Carnival of Sport. What will you do then, as the 'bubble bursts'? Your glorious sunshine shall be as night! Do you not hear the wailing in the streets of America(OWS) that was shut down by State Security, ...it is no secret. the USA cannot be Egypt! Even if Pharoah does reside at the White House.

To be sure, everyone will make money on the way up; Tricks, Traps, & Treachery. Greed and Avarice are like putting the already sick economy in a filthy environment. Surely, this 'patient' will not survive, ...unless 'drastic' action is taken. So, the 'best and brightest' will be given 'powers' to save this poor imbecile who has managed to come to such a poor state. The 'markets' must be addressed first(TARP) because it is 'the' mechanism by which we live. (((???))) Such blasphemy has never been more EVIL since the Birth of Christ! What is this Market that rules the lives of Men? I have recently, as have you, seen that in these United States of America 'corporations' are classified as 'people'. I have not the words for such ignorance, but do you see how it follows the Logic of Imperialism and the Gospel of Prosperity(that since the age of 5 years I have yet to find in any Bible).

Solutions? No Brazil, I have not the solution for you! Yet I humbly interrupt your present joy and expectation of Olmpic Gold that you may see that "all that glitters is not gold".

Which brings me back to the Corruption of society, because did I not say that, "Drugs and violence destroy your past and present, but corruption destroys your future"? There has been progress on this front in Brazil. Not as much as I would like; given my memory of my dear Sister Dorothy Stang, who did give her life in the same 'cause' as my brother Che. However, the battle against corruption must continue, because it is through this mechanism that 'traitors' abound, ...and some do believe the propaganda of Liars.

"Even the poor and illiterate know injustice when they see it." - Lloyd Cata

(I have not forgotten you Dr. Amaral, but I am going over some notes I made when I was a candidate for employment with the Goldman people) smilies/wink.gif
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 02, 2013

Look please at the Brazilian real estate picture, from Amazonia to Sao Paulo(!)


Very rich prose (and pompous, as usual).You really think you know the geography of Brasil well eh,dude?>smilies/sad.gif

It would sound more scholarly and pompous if the sentence had been written:

Look please at the Brazilian real estate picture, from Oiapoque to Chuí (!)

Besides this suggestion, I have nothing else to add to your truthful statements on the Brasilian real estate "picture".smilies/cool.gif

For Chrissake, L.C., Tokyo is a small place like Singapore, whereas S.Paulo is not. Why place so much emphasis on "vertical Expansion", while there is plenty of scope for horizontal one? smilies/angry.gif
Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 02, 2013

Ricardo: That article said: ""This carnival on CCTV was a violation not only of ethics, but of the criminal code regulations that the death penalty not be carried out in public," wrote human rights lawyer Liu Xiaoyuan on a microblog. Many others, however, applauded the execution of the four drug traffickers for unusually heinous slayings that had galvanized the public."

Just a reminder: Let's not forget that the guillotine was very popular in France during the "French Revolution", and did work well for the French. And since corruption is completely out of control in Brazil today - we could adopt that effective French model to clean up the corrupt political system in Brazil.

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Vertical Expansion vs Horizontal Expansion, ...and the Colonial Model
written by Lloyd Cata, March 02, 2013
// You really think you know the geography of Brasil well eh,dude? // - João da Silva

Geography is a subject that covers the entire world. It is where we live, everyone. Remember what I said about religion - limits and boundaries. Well, my astute friend, nationality is no better. That we live in different mansions, we are all universally tied to this planet. Do you close your windows like the communists? No, we 'know' what Horizontal Expansion -means-, right? It means moving someone else out of the way, huh? (Belo Monte...like Zionists) Whereas Vertical Expansion concentrates the risk of failure, or as I sometimes say, "the consequences of success".

Ohhh, just because I have been missing from this forum does not mean that I am not watching you closely. Could a new Pope make the difference? Certainly! Could you reject the drumbeat of 'markets' trying to tell you how to live your lives? Certainly, because of 'your market', that they wish to do business. You are rich! Yet so poor in understanding that sometimes I agree with the Swiss about navel-gazing.

Now, I see both H/E and V/E moving rapidly in Brazil. I really don't have to see every tree to know that the destruction of Amazonia is proceeding, and all you concern yourselves with is whether it was greater yesterday than today. I know there is drought and flood, where it was not before. As I say, Mother Earth/Gaia is where I live. I am watching the planet very carefully these days, because I have told many, and I tell you now, "Aristotle is coming, because the death of Socrates is not the end of the story!". If you desire better interpretation perhaps the good Mayor of New York would impart to you how one hurricane cured him of his ignorance, eh?

Now that may sound pompous, or delirious, or delusional, but soon enough the Truth will emerge, and ignorance will be banished from the face of the Earth. Perhaps there is one among you who knows something of what I say, perhaps they can interpret it for you, in a way you can understand, but before you pass judgment perhaps you should look around, ...or maybe in the mirror. Your Horizontal Expansion will create strife if not balanced and your Vertical Expansion will create strife if not balanced, so which is the focus of 'discretionary funds' for your 2016 Olympiad? How many favelas will you raze? Will you provide for the 'people' to move horizontally while you build vertically? Yes, there is such a 'program', but we all know it is just a bandaid, ...I looked! The vertical 'price' after the World Cup will climb with the success of the Olympic construction. The horizontal price is climbing due to the drought in the US(not the first time. US Farm Crisis http://goo.gl/GFLcN ) I don't pretend to know what your market will do, but the projection is up-up-up, ...no, Sao Paulo is not Tokyo, but if your pricing is already like New York, where is it to go? Already there are huge sums in peoples heads. Shall we ask the formidable asp how much those cabanas will go for after 2014?

You see, I did not only go to New Orleans for Katrina Recovery, I also went to study, which is what I do 'everywhere' I go. New Orleans is better today than yesterday, and one reason is the Feds(FBI) took over the police department(#1 improvement!). Still not the best, but no longer terrorizing the people. What I was looking for was weather patterns of the Caribbean; you see I look for changes, and not for what remains the same. You might say, 'everything changes', and in that you would be correct, yet when you connect-the-dots the 'causality' of the change become apparent. It is there that one must focus for study, instead of the distraction of minor events.

Of course, you don't 'need' a Brazilian Pope, because as I am assured Brazil is a secular state. Yet, you do need a better understanding of the world,...even your world that you -think- you can change without consequences.
And Should You Wonder Of My Dialect...
written by Lloyd Cata, March 03, 2013
I humbly present to you my tutor;

http://goo.gl/UA8Lb smilies/smiley.gif ...because he was also the most comical writer of his time. smilies/cheesy.gif So try not to put others in the box of your imagination. After all, "Shakespeare was a better analyst of humanity than Freud". smilies/shocked.gif

Should my outcomes match my desires, smilies/grin.gif I would like to bring the Greeks back to Broadway, ...maybe Lincoln Center smilies/cool.gif. I have several contemporary issues that I think Socrates would be delighted to debate smilies/cheesy.gif

Replacing humans with non-suicidal robots
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 03, 2013

Ricardo: In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert discuss the annoying human qualities like hunger, fear, love, lust, desire and need that get in the way of maximum GDP growth. Replacing humans with non-suicidal robots would get rid of environmental concerns as well as all these GDP busing pesky human problems like hunger and fear, but would the courts be even able to look at the algorithm of should the robot turn killer? They also discuss a robo-pope as the first truly infallible one.

In the second half of the show, Max Keiser talks to author, comedian and gold bug, Dominic Frisby, about death crosses and gold prices and about the independent currencies whether the Keiser dollar, the Frisby pound or bitcoin.


Keiser Report: Who stole from you? A Robo-banker – March 2, 2013
http://youtu.be/r0-c_3EKKzM

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'US drifting away from blind allegiance to Israel' – March 3, 3013
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 03, 2013

Ricardo: This could be a sign the Israeli lobby is losing influence in Washington.

'US drifting away from blind allegiance to Israel' – March 3, 3013
http://youtu.be/GU92VWDnFYk

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Rickey, Rickey, Rickey
written by Lloyd Cata, March 03, 2013
I tell you something one day, and the next day you present 'headlines' to explain what I just said? smilies/shocked.gif Maybe Iran is more important than Israel when the BET is $600+T? Oil and dollars, my friend, in complete harmony, and a lot of that $600+T is in the hands of Jews. smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Did you know that Goldman&Sacks owns through Real Estate Investment Trusts, the largest blocks of 'sunshine' land in the US? Great tracts of land in the US sunbelt. Yet, they claim(testimony in Congress) that they have "no proprietary interest in solar energy". L.B.- "We just put 'deals' together, Senator". If solar really takes off in the US, Goldman will still be the #1 player. Now that we have cheap panels...well, lets just say its an 'opportunity' to "hedge" all that money in oil. (#genius). Which is why they truly only employ the best and brightest to carry out these schemes. I don't like it, you don't like it, but we are hostage to the drama, ...until the world either saves us or joins us in our misery of corruption. "Sequestration" is now the Law in the USA! smilies/grin.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cool.gif

BTW, how's Germany doing with solar,smilies/cool.gif I hear everyone has it (subsidized)? B-b-but it beats Russian gas, and Libyan oil every day for pennies, huh? I'll be watching this, ...the Germans are not known for chasing their tail, I have to give them that - results.smilies/tongue.gif
Ricardo's hatred of Jews
written by Limpopo, March 03, 2013
Ricardo, your hatred of Jews and Israel from the outside appears very profound. Was there something within your experience as a member of the financial world that led you to despise these people so? You speak of the Jewish lobby and its influence; can you be more specific for those of us who actively read your editorials? Could you offer examples? Is it financial aid? Food support and subsidies? Military assistance?

In the light of such criticism, you never make mention of Muslim militancy in Africa and the oppression and famine it has produced.
If you had any empathy with Africa, I think you would be alarmed at your county's arming of extremist Muslim governments for what purpose?
Why is your country pouring billions and billions of military aid into Egypt? What exactly is Egypt's threat? How many F-16s does Egypt need? It now has 250 and is expecting more paid with American debt that is regularly forgiven. How many tanks does your country expect to give Egypt? How many does it need? It now has 1,130 M1 Abrams? Why? Are you aware of the thousands of M60 Pattons your country held in reserve in Europe? Do you know where almost 2,000 upgraded M60s have been delivered? As Egypt grows closer to the s**ttes, why does your country feel compelled to continue the arms rush to a country your president can't even determine is an ally?

Your rally cry is the Israeli lobby, but from the outside, a lot of north African countries must be very, worried at the moment.
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written by João da Silva, March 03, 2013

I humbly present to you my tutor


Há,há, Dr.L.C., the fella who wrote "The Canterbury Tales"?smilies/cool.gif

No wonder sometimes you spell & write like a Toff.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

Alas, the Sun never really set on the "Empire".smilies/shocked.gif
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written by João da Silva, March 03, 2013

If you had any empathy with Africa, I think you would be alarmed at your county's arming of extremist Muslim governments for what purpose?
Why is your country pouring billions and billions of military aid into Egypt? What exactly is Egypt's threat? How many F-16s does Egypt need? It now has 250 and is expecting more paid with American debt that is regularly forgiven. How many tanks does your country expect to give Egypt? How many does it need? It now has 1,130 M1 Abrams? Why? Are you aware of the thousands of M60 Pattons your country held in reserve in Europe? Do you know where almost 2,000 upgraded M60s have been delivered? As Egypt grows closer to the s**ttes, why does your country feel compelled to continue the arms rush to a country your president can't even determine is an ally?


Great questions by Lt.Waterfall!

Though they are addressed to a "Naturalized American", I readdress them to our distinguished fellow "Native American" blogger who sometimes can be as slippery as the proverbial eel.smilies/wink.gif

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written by João da Silva, March 03, 2013

To: Lieutenant. Waterfall

Read this scandalous link, please:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_...plant?lite

Ah don't think L.C. has ever set his foot on Chad or Mali.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Limpopo: "Ricardo's hatred of Jews"
written by Lloyd Cataa, March 03, 2013
My dear Limpopo, you must understand poor Rickey's perspective. Having been tutored in 'high finance' by the most excellent instructors of RutgersU, smilies/smiley.gif and most familiar with the "comrades on Wall Street", smilies/shocked.gif he is only giving account of his 'experience' in such matters as Jewish business practices. smilies/angry.gif

Having been in the employ of Jews throughout my professional career, I have seen 'changes' among todays Children of God that were not present in my youth. For one, the assassination of Mr. Rabin, destroying the momentum for Peace, and ushering in the Zionist State that Israel is today. Secondly, lets not forget, that it was Israel that supplied nuclear technology to the previously racist government of South Africain order to advance their agenda of colonialism and imperialism. Thirdly, -today- Israel looks to expand its influence in North Africa in coordination with AFRICOM to sustain the Empire. They must do something for their -share- of the spoils, no?

Now, I have been watching this dance for almost 40 years. I watched as they performed one atrocity after another until even Arafat, their most hated enemy, put away his guns for a chance for Peace(what could have been...). Sadly , it was not enough. Still his people suffer the oppressive boot of occupation, colonial expansion, and genocide.

Yes, the Palestinians reject violently such agendas. See, Israel simply takes a page from the American Westward Expansion and applies it to Palestine. What could be wrong with that? Why would the Americans object to such behavior, it is " How the west was won!", right? The "indiscriminate casualties" of Progress. This is why the propaganda of 600 years has finally revealed the Truth. What of this do you deny? Though in some quarters it is said these things were done 'for their own good', as they were only savages/terrorists in need of proper 'education' to behave civily while we stole their property. Of what -other- excuse to steal what is not yours do you present? Because the same excuse has been used for 600 years!

As I said, I am familiar with Jewish business practices(South Bronx/Bathgate Ave/1962), so working with and for them was never an issue, ...until when working for the Zionists - they stole from me!

Now understand that Jews and Blacks in the US where 'comrades in arms' for civil and equal rights. Well they know that those signs saying 'Blacks were not allowed' was meant for them too!
However the success of the movement, funded with Jewish money(NAACP/ACLU), and mobilized with Black bodies resulted in a serious rift which left the Blacks on the wrong side of the 'color line'. The Jews had legitimate access, and well we know what happened with the Blacks, despite Oprah and Jay-Z, most are still on the wrong side of the tracks. You see they never did go infor 'terrorism', even during the bloody days of Vietnam. Note that it is Mr. Obama's caucasian friends that his enemies portray as communists and terrorists, huh?

The Jews are not the only ones to take advantage of Blacks or anyone else who in need. See, it is -needy- people that attracts them. Ergo, my comment in the #economist on the subject of corruption. See, needy people are easily corrupted if you supply their needs. Are not our Chinese brethren going through the same torment of corruption that resulted in the death of the British -spy- and the imprisonment of a high official, and his wife? Do you not think the UK/USA does not care about who is sneaking money out of China, when it is going through their banks?

The Empire, the Jews, and the Saudis all have agendas for North Africa, and with the anti-American Jihad just about over, all these jihadis actually are not welcome back home, so the expansion southward. All under the umbrella of 'terrorism', which allows -any- expenditure to defeat(5000+K/$2T). Our Jewish friends and our Saudi friends are both heavily invested in "the profits of chaos", and what better way to expand into the territories of savages and terrorists?

What say you, Limpopo? Or does our esteemed moderator have it correct that the washroom attendant is always silent, listening for that bit of talk that might make him rich?
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 03, 2013

Secondly, lets not forget, that it was Israel that supplied nuclear technology to the previously racist government of South Africain order to advance their agenda of colonialism and imperialism.


Now wait a sec. Are you saying that South Africa also has the "Bomb"?If so, to drop on whom,old chap? Do they also long range vehicles to carry the Nukes? Please clarify these questions AS(A)P.
Mister Cata
written by Limpopo, March 03, 2013
I don't remember reading anything from our esteemed moderator concerning silent washroom attendants wanting to be rich. Actually, I'm rather tired of the humor and insults on this blog.
João da Silva
written by Lloyd Cata, March 03, 2013
http://goo.gl/Jt2CH

From the queens own rag. And I have further evidence of British intrigue in this drama! smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/angry.gif

Poor Limpopo, has Cel. Ederson not aquainted him with our customs here.smilies/wink.gif There is much history there in South Africa, which I am sad to say left me little time for Mali, as it was C.A.R. which did capture my attention during the Franco-American 'kidnapping' of Mr. Aristide.

We have yet to explore the depths of the waterfalls.smilies/shocked.gif ...and I did so want to discuss with him the merits of SA Justice. smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 03, 2013

I don't remember reading anything from our esteemed moderator concerning silent washroom attendants wanting to be rich.


Nor do I for having written such a comment! I was honest in apologizing for literally translating "Waterfall" in Sepedi to our lingo and re-translate into American English. smilies/sad.gif

Actually, I'm rather tired of the humor and insults on this blog.


Unfortunately, the Yanks lack subtle sense of humor and hence I don't think the "Naturalized" and the "Native" ones meant to insult you (or me for I have very thick skin).

Cheers
I think ...
written by Sacana Bacana, March 04, 2013

the next pope should be from the U-Nut States of America, don't you ?

Costinha
Ricardo Amaral
written by Lloyd Cata, March 04, 2013
Excuse me for interrupting on the Jewish question, as I know you may have aspirations in the financial world that I have long ago given to history smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cool.gif

However, your Mafia analogy is not quite right, sir. You see, what was once the Mafia(La Cosa Nostra) http://goo.gl/lkz2B is now legitimately intertwined with both the US Gov't and the financial industry. Believe me, those banks just didn't start these schemes on their own. It goes back a long way, and you can only really see the interaction in the archives of the Knights of Columbus.

Being as that organization has somewhat slipped in the seam/shadow of American culture, it is where I begin for inspection. After all, these folks are the 'good' Mafia. Surely, sometimes in the same family as the goombas, but the educated elite who did not go for the 'street action'. They have the education, money, and political connections to remain above the drugs, sex, and violence of their less informed/streetsmart family members.

There can be no doubt that these progeny of the Mafia families are in the best financial houses around the world; Berlusconi is going nowhere, huh? So, when we find gambling(derivatives/shadow CDO's), loan-sharking(mortgage industry), money-laundering(drugs/Iran/etc), price-fixing(LIBOR), gun-running(Fast&Furious), corruption(TARP),...etc, ...etc, ...etc, you know that this criminal behavior is 'what-they-do'.

As the newly elected Sen. Elizabeth Warren asked the top US 'regulators', ~"Why after all this criminality has no one gone to Jail?(!)". You know why; Omerta! The Emperor may now -legally- snatch you off the street, put you in (hell/Guantanamo) Indefinite Detention, or just Summarily Execute you as an 'enemy-of-the-state', without evidence, trial, judge, or jury. What the hell happened, while you entertained yourselves with your "exceptionalism"?(?)

This is not 'fiction', 'imagination', or 'delusion'. Have I not said that, "we can be of different minds, and different opinions, but we cannot be of different realities, because that is madness". Have you no thought on how this could happen to our Constitution and Bill of Rights? Nothing more than arse-wipe, and I wouldn't use it for that as it might infect me with such inhumanity and ignorance!

This is nothing more than I have told them in their journals. Yet, "Ignorance is Popular", so I must understand, and wait for my Masters arrival, that this ignorance is banished from the land, before the idiots do something 'really' dangerous; and you never know what it will be(!) Who knew a Tunisian street vendor would incite the Arab Spring, ...or that truly American 'incident' ( http://goo.gl/lkz2B ) would lead to the First American Revolution?(!) Truly, the NRA wants to be 'ready'....

So look around you, and look in the mirror, but most of all, hold the Truth up to the 'mirror of history', ...and that is how you can see the Liars(!) You know I will not do your research for you! (more about 'mirrors' another time, as you know I like Fairy Tales, and one of my favorite subjects was Optics - as my Master had no microscope)

It once got out-of-hand, so we have that great metropolis in the desert called Las Vegas. Little did we know that as the Vegas money began to flow, the political corruption in the USA just increased enormously. I -think- this was the first direct infusion of the cash infiltrating the political and financial underpinnings of the present US regime responsible only to its 'members'. There was some hint of this during the 70's, but they weeded out the small time thugs to make way for the new 'agenda'. This is only coming clear to me as I look at the present 'arrangement', but as Mr. Amaral indicated; there is the hand of La Cosa Nostra in all this chaos, of that let there be no question. I speak not of the goombas and petty street thugs(crime families, who Dr. Amaral pointed out previously), but the seats on the boards of the Empire(Corporations ARE People!). ABSOLUTELY CHILLING! ...as I said; "I do not have the words for such blasphemy and evil smilies/sad.gif
Correction....
written by Lloyd Cata, March 04, 2013
In my statement, I mentioned 'The Knights of Columbus', and it was not to impugn the reputation of that organization, simply an indication of which "datasets" are of particular note in my analysis - understand? smilies/cool.gif

That I may use from time-to-time obscure datasets in no way changes the facts or the Truth. It only indicates that my analysis is just that - an opinion based on my observation, and the reader is advised to "do your own research", because though I 'try' to be Truthful, I too may be in error!

["To err is human...", and I have yet to escape my Humanity, nor shall I try, until I am subject to God's Judgement.] - Lloyd Cata
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 04, 2013

IMHO, the Krauts lost both the wars, but....but....but...right now, they have upper hand in ole Europe. No crapper, mate. smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

What say ya?
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 04, 2013

Excuse me for interrupting on the Jewish question


A wise move on your part, ah must say. They are very smart folks, just like the Arabs, Buddhists, Aryans, etc; even before the Christianity & Islamism were founded. After all both the religions came up from the ancient Jewishland(sounds very rhythmic with England). I have no problem in dealing with them nor the Mohammedans. Love the felafels they both make (rare to find in Brasil smilies/sad.gif).

In short ah don't have issues with any religion, unless someone tries to shove it up my popo. All I want is for our country to remain secular. BTW, I am not cheering for one of our cardinals to be elected as the next Pope, either!smilies/cool.gif
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 04, 2013

I haven't finished with you yet nor intend to , because ah think you are one hell of a knowledgeable person, even though you ran out from this blog. Just like ch.c! May his soul R.I.P. somewhere in N.Africa.smilies/sad.gif

In one of your long winded, but entertaining & highly informative comments in this thread, you mentioned that your "ancestors" did not know Jesus Christ. You seemed to be apologetic, while you know full well that your ancestors were in the Americas much before J.C. was born and practiced no known religion. In spite of it they knew how to plant food, build things and live a peaceful community life. You may not be acquainted with Mali, sir, but...but...but..., you should be familiar with the "ancient civilizations" that existed in the Americas even before the first Pope was installed in Rome.

It is great to hear you quoting Socrates, Aristotle, Chaucer, etc; But...but...but.... have you heard of one Xingu scholar?smilies/sad.gif
My Ancestors Will Never Apologize! God's Judgement Shall Come First!
written by Lloyd Cata, March 05, 2013
To steal a man's inheritance, ...given by God, should be as to make him apologize for breathing. So it is with their last breath did my ancestors resist the evil that descended from the East, to corrupt an entire hemisphere.

My friend, you must understand, that I bear malice to no one, for God has released me long ago from the fear of enemies; therefore I have none!(...of this I do not count Ignorance, because it is passing thing, just Popular at the moment.) http://goo.gl/luNoO smilies/cool.gif I learned long ago that Hate is a tool of Evil, and is usually fatal to the hater. Besides, it simply is not good for the digestion. smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Of course, we were here long before my Lord and Savior was born. Before Moses lead the Jews out of Egypt, ..."Yea, men did break down the walls of Paradise to gorge themselves on what satified their appetites, forgetting their lesson on what not to eat". smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/sad.gif We 'know' who we are! ...and the truly sad thing is many will seach the entire universe and not find themsleves.)

To say we didn't have God is 'ignorant' and part of the propaganda of the Liars! We simply worship 'all' that God is/has given. We 'appreciate' what was given, for it did 'nourish' us, body and soul. That some say this is "absence-of-religion" makes it perfectly Christian to murder an entire culture. I also heard, when it even mattered; "that was so long ago. You should 'get-over-it', this is the 21st Century!". Well, that is always a possiblity, because you know that Love, Compassion, and Mercy were integral to all men from the beginning. Not a result of 'religion'. These are God's gift to 'everyone', not just those who prostrate themselves before alters. What a shameful lie, that someone taught us how to live a godly life. It is the worst lie/outcome of Christianity to ever be perpetrated on Humanity. THEIR -GIFTS- WERE POISON, DESTRUCTIVE TO BOTH BODY AND SOUL!(...or does your 'mirror of history'lie to you also?). It is another lie, "You had nothing...", LIAR, we had 'everything'!, Do you know, in some First Peoples language there is no word for "want"? Because we -understood- that God, All God, God Everlasting, had given what was 'needed', ...and we were fruitful and did multiply. Not -perfect-, because as we know 'perfection' did not arrive until the Birth of Christ!

(Truly, it is to be lamented that Adam did not face his Father with the bloody carcass of the snake, "This one cast eyes upon my wife...". How things might have been different!) Note, in this Jews and Muslims agree - Old Testament. Truly there is more agreement among the children of Abraham than most would suspect. Does not the King of Jordan readily admit that his Jewish 'cousins' have rights which he respects, ...to the point that he is willing to join them in putting the boot to the neck of the Palestinians, eh? "How the West was Won", 600 or 6000 years later, the same propaganda of lies and ignorance.

Are 'we' to believe -now- that these Liars! are any different now, given the situation in the world? History only repeats because they have you on the hamster wheel, ...and as I watch the Palestinians, ...and now Africa - to be raped again, there can be no forgiveness because the 'same' behavior is EVIDENT today,huh?

I receive a 'compensation' for injuries during my military service, and I accept it as a token of my service to the American people(i think we went over this some years ago - public service/conscription). Yet, let me tell you something the Liars will never understand, and don't want you to understand;

"Compensation is neither reparation nor restitution, ...it is recognition; of accident, error, or injustice". My people are still waiting for the Truth, for Mercy, and for God's Justice. You will find them, the Remnant, still face Heaven and ask God why we were made to suffer as we were, ...and for me it was Jesus Christ who provided the answer!

As for your reference to that ideologue from the Middle Kingdom; there is much in his narrative that is noteworthy, but you will find that he was always doing the bidding of his 'native' country;
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written by João da Silva, March 05, 2013

As for your reference to that ideologue from the Middle Kingdom; there is much in his narrative that is noteworthy, but you will find that he was always doing the bidding of his 'native' country;


I wasn't talking about the "scholar" from the Middle Kingdom, though the info you provided is a news to me. smilies/shocked.gif

I was referring to your Brasilian cousins who are being "civilized" by Dave Cameron & many other Europeans, who no doubt owe their allegiance to their native countries-just like the one from the "Middle Kingdom".smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif I think you would do a better job.smilies/cool.gif
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 05, 2013

Ricardo: Joao, you wrote the following - "I haven't finished with you yet nor intend to , because ah think you are one hell of a knowledgeable person, even though you ran out from this blog. Just like ch.c"

Joao, ch.c does not have a choice since as usual he must be spending some time in jail in his native Switzerland.

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Reply to Limpopo
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 05, 2013

Part 1 of 3


Ricardo: You can read about US “Operating Clueless” that the Us has been running in the Middle East and now in Africa at:

US “Operating Clueless”
http://spengler.atimes.net/vie...20&t=18895


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Regarding Israel and the “Israeli Lobby” you can read and watch the videos at:


Israel, the Zionists, the Jewish Lobby and Iran
http://israelzionismjewishlobb...gspot.com/

...It doesn't make sense, and goes completely against the self-interest of the United States as a country to continue this close relationship between the United States and Israel.

Unless the United States want to become obsolete and irrelevant even faster than it is happening – the close association of the United States with Israel will just serve as a distraction to the US government as the US economy and financial system become less important and influential in the new world order of the “BRICS” with half of the population of the planet and the place were the real economic and financial action is going to happen in the coming decades.

The United States can place all its eggs in one basket the Israeli basket and become irrelevant and immaterial at the speed of light in the new world of the 21st century - or the United States can wake up and start paying more attention to the world of the future.

There are many things that are happening that gives us a clear signal that the relationship between US/Israel is reaching the end of the line.

We have reached a major turning point in global history and the world is changing as never seen before and there is nothing the Jewish Lobby can do about to stop the events that are already underway.

The world is changing faster than you think, and there is nothing you can do about it on your efforts to try to keep things as they were in the past.

Most countries around the world realized that there are more important things around the world related to the future such as India and China with almost 2.5 billion people than little Israel with 7 million people.

The reality is: Israel with 7 million people is immaterial and irrelevant in a global population of 7 and very soon 8 billion people.

The world don't revolve around Israel and its never ending troubles.

As the economic and financial power moves from Europe and the United States to the Asian countries – All the leverage that Israel has had in the last 60 years becomes completely irrelevant, and obsolete on this new world of the 21st century.

That's a fact!!!!!!!!

It's crazy for the United States to continue to give Israel all kinds of support as the United States has been giving in the last 60 years.

The world has changed in drastic ways, and even the United States is becoming a former superpower faster than most people has realized.

Right now the United States is going through the late stages of a life cycle of a superpower - all superpowers have the same life cycle: birth, maturation, old age and disintegration.

The United States and Europe have reached the old age stage, and now they are moving to the disintegration stage – and we can see signs of that all over the place.


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Israel and World War III
http://israelandworldwariii.bl...r-iii.html


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The U.S. Military Industrial Complex
http://thefinalcollapseoftheus...mplex.html


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Reply to Limpopo
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 05, 2013

Part 2 of 3


Here is what I wrote about last year about AIPAC and the Israeli Lobby. The same old annual routine is going on right now in Washington DC.


February 22, 2012

SouthAmerica: Why they don't close the US Congress for 3 days - March 4-6, 2012 - that way all members of the US Congress could attend the annual AIPAC Policy Conference and get their orders directly from their masters:


The annual AIPAC Policy Conference in Washington, D.C.
http://www.aipac.org/pc

...The annual AIPAC Policy Conference is the largest gathering of the pro-Israel movement. Thousands of participants come from all 50 states to take part in “three of the most important days affecting Israel’s future.” The 2012 conference will be held March 4-6, 2012, in Washington, D.C. Thousands have already registered, don’t miss out on this truly remarkable experience to be in our nation’s capital with thousands of fellow pro-Israel supporters.
Confirmed Speakers:

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
Israeli President Shimon Peres
President of the United States Barack Obama
Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
Senator Carl Levin (D-MI)
Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-CT)
Senator Johnny Isakson (R-GA)


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AIPAC-WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
http://youtu.be/5qYy3N7PZgc

More Than 50% of U.S. Senate to Attend AIPAC POLICY CONFERENCE


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The “Jewish Lobby” has too much power and heavy influence regarding the US government annual budget and foreign policy.

More than 50% of U.S. Senate usually Attend the AIPAC POLICY CONFERENCE to “pay homage”
to their masters.

President Barack Obama, and a bunch of his pals from the US Congress will attend the event to pay homage to their masters; the act of respect and allegiance made by a vassal to his lord

Israel is beating the drums of war against Iran louder and louder – the war did not even started as yet, and look around the impact that is already having in the US economy, and in collapsing Europe with oil prices skyrocketing and making a bad economic situation even more precarious.

Here again is a prime example of Israel creating a major problem for the United States in the short-run and also in the long-term. Israel is forcing a situation that goes 100 percent against the self-interest of the United States as a country and the American people.

The US economy is a mess it does not matter which way you look at it, and the last thing the United States needs today is to get involved in a new “Pandora Box” in the Middle East.

The United States needs today more than ever to start taking care of business at home and start creating new jobs for the new generation, and find a way to take care of the baby boomers that are going to explode in numbers in the coming years.

If you don't understand something regarding what I am trying to convey to you. If you don't understand that the world is changing faster than ever before, and what you see regarding all these collapsing economies in Europe it will also arrive in the United States.

Remember the s**t is hitting the fan in a massive way, and it will not be a pretty sight for all of us.

You can bet on that.

In a nutshell:

The Party is Over for the “Israeli Lobby”....


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If you read the article: “Silencing The Critics” by: Paul Craig Roberts dated February 20, 2012 – He said on this article: “Many suspect that the Israel Lobby used its clout with TV advertisers to silence critics of the Israeli government’s efforts to lead Washington to war with Iran.”
http://www.paulcraigroberts.or...e-critics/

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Reply to Limpopo
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 05, 2013

Part 3 of 3


Most of the "Jewish Lobby" agenda goes completely against the short- term and the long-term self-interest of the United States and the American people.

The United States can't afford to start another war, this time against Iran.

This country is bankrupt, it needs to borrow trillions of US dollars from countries from around the world for its economy to stay afloat.

The United States has a “crumbling infrastructure” everywhere you look at – and you can see for yourself the information and videos on that subject at:

The Crumbling of America – History Channel – (August 2009)
http://youtu.be/zBSPcIGGcIc

2hr. special for History channel about America's crumbling infrastructure. Be afraid, be very afraid!

Throughout world history, great civilizations have survived and extended their rule through dependence on great infrastructures. Rome had its roads and aqueducts. The Mayans had their pyramids and palaces. But what happens when society neglects its infrastructure? Right now, the U.S. infrastructure is collapsing and it impacts every single person in this country. In the first half of the 20th century, our bridges, highways, tunnels, dams, levees, ports, water and gas pipelines were built during the greatest age of construction the world had ever seen. But now these steel and concrete achievements are deteriorating. More than 70,000 of our nation's bridges are rated structurally deficient. Massive grid failures have left millions in the dark. 25,000 miles of commercial navigable waterways and locks have exceeded their 50-year design life. Everything from dilapidated levees to pipelines to railroads is past their expiration date.

http://shop.history.com/the-cr...p?p=104694


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Here is what the crazy, warmongering, neurotic, raving lunatic, and insane Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had to say yesterday at the annual “AIPAC” meeting in Washington – the major “Israeli Lobby” machine in the US:

Netanyahu's Hawkish Squawk: 'Iran attack getting closer' – March 5, 2013
http://youtu.be/JT4R7udVpbY


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'Americans lose money and jobs at expense of Israel' – March 4, 2013
http://youtu.be/4MFynfbnPXo

Americans are losing both their money and jobs by sending financial help to Israel, a political analyst tells Press TV. Addressing the recent AIPAC annual policy conference in Washington, Israeli Minister of Military Affairs Ehud Barak has boasted about Israel's Iron Dome short-range missile system, which is mainly funded by the United States, calling it Israel's cutting-edge missile technology. According to a White House fact sheet, US President Barack Obama has said that "despite tough fiscal times", he "fought for and secured full funding for Israel" in fiscal year 2012, including $3 billion in Foreign Military Financing. Press TV has conducted an interview with Alison Weir, executive director of If Americans knew, from Sacramento, to further discuss the issue of US providing financial support for Israel.


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AIPAC-ing a Big Punch: Israel ups Iran war rhetoric in push for US aid – March 4, 2013
http://youtu.be/_ZMaxCXVlgc

Explicit warnings of military action against Iran are coming in hot and heavy at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee conference in Washington. Israel's most ardent supporters are pushing for greater US backing. But the meeting is drawing fire itself, with protesters staging a somewhat colorful demonstration. Among their concerns is aggressive settlement expansion on occupied Palestinian land, and warmongering by Netanyahu. RT's Gayane Chichakyan reports on aims and aspirations of the conference.


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'US aid to Israel could dodge sequester to compensate Pentagon cuts' – March 3, 2013
http://youtu.be/6JN8inVcnuc

The ambitious goal to be formally designated as the United States' "major strategic ally" is apparently on the agenda at the annual American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee gathering that's kicking off in Washington, known as AIPAC. If the plan becomes legislation, it could oblige the US to support Israel diplomatically and militarily if it strikes Iran.

Robert Naiman, policy director at Just Foreign Policy, says that it could also exempt Israel from any reduction in foreign aid that might result from budget cuts.

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written by João da Silva, March 05, 2013

So many things are happening so fast that one gets a feeling Ricardo's premonition that we are on the verge of WW3 is well founded. smilies/sad.gif

Pope resigns. Noth Korea successfully tests its nuclear device.Now we find Commandante Chavez in his final days:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_...emies?lite

Two American military attaches are expelled from Caracas.

I wonder what the morrow brings to us.smilies/cry.gif
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written by asp, March 05, 2013
cata, anybody using the word "empire" and che is their brother, needs to put his star war toys away and try to face reality...

the truth is, you cant put together five sentances together that can really describe what is happening down here in brazil...it is so far off and in your "america is the villain of the world" mindset that i can hardley trust what you can say about any other place in the world

as a matter of fact, joao, get ready for a lot of fantacy to start flowing, bulls**t and anything but the truth about what his legacy in south america was....beleive me, i get no pleasure that he is dead, i feel the same way i will feel when they say chenny has died, or w...the very same...i just know the goddamn truth, its in our faces, its in brazil's face, the last 12 years or the underworld hook up of farc and their huge support by him, its documented in many ways, in arms sales, support, aid....and, farc has raped brazil, just absolutly raped it...the hook up with the giant drug gangs all over is enormously valid....brazil is the largest crack user in the world...if any one thinks this is criticising brazil, they are crazy, brazil became a cash cow for farc and thier supporters like him, by flooding the market with codaine and arms and crack....this is fact...this is our lives who live here...and it was big money for the sellers on the other end...just like miami was built on laundered money from banks because of coke....

and suitcases of money to various canditates...the definition of the word imperialism...as is the support of farc....

are we going to here any of this in the next days?

you heard it here...
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written by asp, March 05, 2013
they just had a moment of silence for him in the congress and president is speaking

i hope they also have a moment of silence for all the victoms of young kids killed by lost bullets in the drug wars he was giving support to , by aiding and abetting farc....the pictures of the young beautiful kids they have shown over the years lost to the bullets of these wars...for sure, personal responsibility from the shooters is first on line...is heart breaking...its just no diffferant from the crtiticisms that american policies get for their involvement in these kinds of actions...at least lets tell the whole truths...we all know the american shameful actions...we hear them over and over ...we all know them...but , we wont hear about this other side , will we?
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written by asp, March 05, 2013
they are already saying the usa killed him...what the f**k
How do you understand America?
written by Limpopo, March 05, 2013
I'm having a difficult time understanding America. You have the highest corporate tax in the world; is that true? You have no money to keep a major aircraft carrier at sea. Your air traffic controllers are being cutback, as is your airport security. The government is letting illegal aliens loose, and portions of the borders will be neglected. The president offers America two choices: caring for sick children or children in economic duress. Your unemployed beg for relief as you hurriedly move your industrial base to China. The pentagon is laying off thousands, and the first thing your secretary of state does is give the Muslim Brotherhood 250 million dollars? Did I understand the news correctly? Is this true? Is it even possible? You have already given them a huge American air force and army; what more could they possibly need? I thought you people were running out of money? How much more secure you would be if you weren't so busy destabilizing the world.
asp
written by João da Silva, March 05, 2013

as a matter of fact, joao, get ready for a lot of fantacy to start flowing, bulls**t and anything but the truth about what his legacy in south america was....beleive me, i get no pleasure that he is dead, i feel the same way i will feel when they say chenny has died, or w...the very same..


May Chavez's soul RIP, ASP. Its a pity his "Guru" in Havana has outlived and outlasted his "allies and enemies" since 1959. His Guru's dynasty would last forever, thanks to the Bunda Mole policies of yr government. But...but...but.. I doubt Chavez dynasty will continue.smilies/sad.gif

BTW, did Lt.Col.Hugh really promote FARC? I doubt it. He was friendly to us the Brasilians and I have no complaint. He was indeed a "counterweight" to L.C's friends from the "Empire" and now that he is gone, we have to fight the "Empire" all alone.smilies/cry.gif

As Limpopo asked it correctly, "How do you understand America?".

I don't think L.C., Rickey, Adrian, you et all understand America. I don't blame y'all, because I don't understand Brasil either, even though I know it from N to S & E to W. smilies/cry.gif
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written by João da Silva, March 05, 2013

Your unemployed beg for relief as you hurriedly move your industrial base to China.


Great question by Capt.Limpopo.Does anyone care to answer?

P.S. to Limpopo: They didn't really move their industrial base to China "hurriedly". They started it in 1976 or so and been doing it slowly, but steadily. Of course we started our romance with PRC about 12 years ago. Not too late to "moderate" our love affair!!!!!
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http://www.insightcrime.org/gr...-venezuela

this describes traficing routes of farc coke runs throught venezuela
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"While Chavez’s colorful insults steal the headlines, the issue of greatest importance—the influx of thousands of rifles and millions of rounds of ammunition into a region rife with black market arms trafficking—has received scant meaningful attention. The illicit arms trade stocks the arsenals of Colombian rebels and international narcotics traffickers, and the Venezuelan military has already inadvertently contributed dozens of its old FAL assault rifles to this trade. A 2003 study by the RAND Corporation found that weapons, some of which “are registered to the Venezuelan Armed Forces…routinely move from Venezuela into Colombia.” These findings are corroborated by a variety of sources, including Colombian government officials and defectors from the main rebel group, the FARC. In an interview that appeared in Jane’s Intelligence Review, a former member of the FARC’s ‘16th Front’ claimed that the rebels “…brought in rifles from Venezuela, such as used FALs in lots of 50…” from a supplier in Maracay, Venezuela’s main garrison town"

this is an excerpt from the article above, and it sais that some of these arms are going to narcotics traficars !! some of those arms are coming into brazil..this is exactly what im talking about

these are the real stories..this is what is what affected brazil during this period that goes back to beiramar and pcc hookups with farc...its simple math...the results of these coke arms hookups are in our lives here in brazil on a daily basis...the crack dens...not just rio and sao paulo...the frequent busts of cocaine, forget marijuana, the heavy s**t is the coke/crack and arms...that is the heavy violence and organised crime at its highest leval in brazil...farc is high organised thug violent drug dealers and kidnappers and arms dealers, doing business with high organised crime in brazil...

im not saying he sat in the drivers seat directing the s**t...im not saying that at all, im saying he was involved...he participated in it, it was part of his under the table schemes, tying into his political agenda...and in some way, he shares some small responsibility for the rape of brazil by this heavy coke/crack/arms traficing into brazil and all the shared bus burning/ ak47 trade secrets being passed back and forth
João da Silva
written by Lloyd Cata, March 06, 2013
// I wasn't talking about the "scholar" from the Middle Kingdom, though the info you provided is a news to me. //

Now you see...(different 'datasets' reveal unexpected answers, hhmmmm?), why the Chinese want that Koumintang hideout called Tiawan? Tiawan, like Israel has never been more than an imperial outpost. There's also the matter of Diego Garcia, which the Chinese would dearly love to just erase from the map, but that would be WW3!

The Asian realignment proceeds, and the lines, both economically and militarily are changing daily. Washington has neither the resources($) nor the political will to challenge China, at this time(noises). You can be quite sure the best and the brightest are working the problem, b-b-but if the last major US adventures are any indication, those Tigers are very nervous. Which means they are going to have to deal individually with the Dragon(...as China wishes and the US is in no position to 'intervene'). Stay tuned..., which one will go nuclear first? Japan or S. Korea? Both 'conservative governments, and with a Lib in the White House, and presumably another(H) to follow in 2016, well...

// I think you would do a better job. //

Ohh no, my friend! Didn't I just say that I was headed back to the reservation. smilies/cheesy.gif If this is 'civilized' smilies/angry.gifsmilies/shocked.gif then I have really been mis-informed. We are not there yet as a species, ...still playing with fire. The animal instincts, predatory appetites, and ignorance of consequences are front and center, no matter the glitter and rhetoric of Davos. A little more subtle and refined, but do not 'get-it-twisted', there are 2 sets of books in play; Blood & Treasure. We know who is giving Blood, and we know who is reaping Treasure. *** RECORD PROFITS BOOST WALL STREET TO NEW HEIGHTS ***, ...it begins again.smilies/cheesy.gif
What Nonsense! Chavez Lives!
written by Lloyd Cata, March 06, 2013
I am not saddened by the passing of Mr. Chavez from these environs. Indeed, as is the 'tradition' of some of my people(!), I celebrate his life, that was for the most part spent in 'service' to his people. Some may say that he was; a 'lousy worker', shiftless and immature, led astray by bad company, and generally of an anti-imperialist nature. It is for God to Judge, yet for myself I am of good cheer that his work, his 'attempt' to change the paradigm of greed and ignorance, his life, was given in service to his people.

So, though I may denigrate the service of others in the political sphere, I recognize which are -for- the 'people', and those who are -for- themselves or others. Do you now see why, in the Western Dialect, "Corporations ARE now People". Is it not an 'honorable' thing to 'serve' the People?

Please join me in celebrating the Earthly passing of César Estrada Chávez, servant of the people of Venezuela.

Surely, his life assures us that the Revolution continues! It is only to perceive who are the actual opponents; so, by the "Blood of Christ" I tell you, it is God versus Dollars(Blood&Treasure). I pray that those in Rome will be guided by the Holy Spirit, that they may choose wisely, because 'this' choice, at 'this' time, will decide how much suffering the Body of Christ must endure before God's Judgement. Amen.

(I have pressing business, so will be missing for a 'minute'. Did I not tell you when I last left when I was going?(North Africa). I will respond to each inquiry(asp) as time permits. Make no mistake, it is good to be back among friends!)
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written by asp, March 06, 2013
"Earlier in the day, Maduro was more belligerent in tone as he announced the government had expelled two U.S. diplomats from the country and said "we have no doubt" that Chavez's cancer, which was first diagnosed in June 2011, was induced by "the historical enemies of our homeland."

"He compared the situation to the death of the Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, claiming Arafat was "inoculated with an illnes"

i mean, my god, the bulls**t is flowing from maduro...this is what chavez built his revolution on, making the usa the big boogy man...while he is involved in actions that contributed to decimation of brazilian society through coke/crack/arms drug sales

let the bulls**t roll, i look at comments in american news outlits and no one really understands this blatently easy to prove dynamic...they will never really get chavez if they dont totaly understand this dynamic im talking about...it will be a sham...he will probably be sold on a tee shirt in the near future, capatalism at its best, just like with che...

people are saying chavez was worth 2 billion dollars....if there is any truth to that, my god , what a hypocracy

have a great trip cata, see if you cant research a little more about brazil , since you cant seem to put together any coherant analysis of what is going on down here...which makes me very leary of your analysis of anything else going on in the world
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written by João da Silva, March 06, 2013

have a great trip cata


I too join you in wishing L.C. a great trip. Do you think he is going to the Vatican to participate in the Conclave?smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 06, 2013

Please join me in celebrating the Earthly passing of César Estrada Chávez, servant of the people of Venezuela.


I agree with you, though I wish he had continued to govern Venezuela and stepped down when his folks wanted him out. It was they who elected him and non-Venezuelans can not interfere in the internal affairs of a sovereign nation. If the people think Nick Maduro is the ideal candidate to succeed Cel.Chavez, they will and if not to the candidate of the opposition.

The question now is whether Maduro will respect the constitution of Venezuela and call for the election in 30 days time. We will know in a few days time. Interesting times, as we have election for the new Pope in a few days and Venezuelan election for the President in a few weeks.

Have a great trip.
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written by asp, March 08, 2013
hey lolyd caka doodoo

i just read your unbeleivably ignorant statements on the thread about bus burning in santa catarina, where you imply its the usa sending the drugs into the scene like its punishment

you stupid ass hole...the f**king drugs, coke and crack and arms are coming from once chavez supported son of a bitches the farc

this is just proof you dont know what the f**k you are talking about, you cant put 5 sentances together that have any validity about brazil but you ramble on like one stupid mother f**ker about it

get you f**king s**t together for gods sake

"lolyd cata, south bronx born and raised, indian black and greek, served in viet nam....all credible admirable things, what the f**k went wrong with loyld cata to make him become lolyd caka doodo in the head?"

asp 2013
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written by João da Silva, March 08, 2013

Chavez being embalmed & kept in a mausoleum ? Sounds grotesque. smilies/shocked.gif
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written by wisemann, March 08, 2013
where there is smoke there is fire
where there is stink there is s**t

http://empirestrikesblack.com/2013/01/henrique-capriles-radonski-israels-man-in-venezuela/
Hugo Chavez - RIP
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 09, 2013

Pepe Escobar
Battle for Latin America ahead? 'US to demonize Chavez post-mortem' – March 6, 2013

http://youtu.be/hl5UD_Ul230

The main question now is who will become Venezuela's new leader. Some analysts suggest it will be hard for the US-backed opposition to overturn Chavez's policies. However, Pepe Escobar, who's an investigative journalist and Asia Times Correspondent covering Latin America, says the demonization of Hugo Chavez in the US will continue after his death


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The Young Turks – March 6, 2013
Hugo Chavez - What Success Can We Actually Learn From?

http://youtu.be/P5HZrHotS3U

"For the last decade in American politics, Hugo Chavez became a potent political weapon -- within a few years of his ascent, he was transformed from just a leader of a neighboring nation into a boogeyman synonymous with extremism. Regularly invoked in over-the-top political rhetoric, Chavez's name became a decontextualized epithet to try to attach to a political opponent so as to make that opponent look like a radical. Because of this, America barely flinched upon hearing the news that the Bush administration tried to orchestrate a coup against the democratically elected Venezuelan leader."*


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Wilkerson: US Isolated in Latin America, Not Venezuela and Cuba – March 6, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...q2-wvmjueg

Lawrence Wilkerson, Collin Powell's former Chief of Staff says that Obama should have the courage to normalize relations with Venezuela and Cuba.


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Gerald Celente - The Vinny Eastwood Show - March 7, 2013
http://youtu.be/Vwg6UhvXs2A

Gerald talks about the global depression we are already in.


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A new French Revolution might be underway in France?

All the French people has to do is bring back the original guillotine that has been in storage since the last great French Revolution.

They might need to sharpen the blade for the guillotine to work well then line up the banksters and corrupt politicians and voila - problem solved....


Keiser Report: Chase, Bully & Attack! - March 5, 2013
http://youtu.be/Xq9R9Sc9biw

In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert discuss HFT and QE3 rat-bots chasing and bullying the world into a Great Depression. They also discuss the dangerous situation of France once again becoming a peripheral country to German.

In the second half of the show, Max Keiser talks to Pierre Jovanovic, French radio talk show host and author of Blythe Masters, about the smell of not napalm but revolution in the air in France where unemployment is worsening, suicides by jumping in front of a train are up drastically and Goldman Sachs says workers need to cut their pay by 30%. They also discuss history repeating itself as Germany once again finds itself looking for its gold as in Wagner's Das Rheingold.






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written by asp, March 09, 2013
the way chavez supported farc , who have been raping brazil,im surprised you wouldnt be demonising chavez also, ricy..he was a blow hard

very surprised...

oh yeah, the coup....i guess it doesnt matter he tried his own coup...but, these things dont matter when we just want to make the usa look bad even if chavez is an imperialist who contributed destabalisation to the region....

hypocracy can be fun
The collapsing US economy...
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 09, 2013

Keiser Report: Bitcoin Millionaires vs Paper Billionaires – March 9, 2013
http://youtu.be/_t39jCXXIrY

In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert discuss both the Dow and bitcoin hitting an all time high as the Fed continues to print $85 billion per month for Wall Street handouts whilst the sequester cuts $85 billion from services to the poor, the elderly and soldiers. They also talk about house prices tripling to all time highs in Hong Kong (thanks to quantitative easing) whilst 'surreal' ghost cities are built in mainland China but which nobody can afford and about how incomes in America are collapsing - thanks to quantitative easing.

In the second half of the show, Max Keiser talks to Charles Hugh Smith of OfTwoMinds.com about both socialism and capitalism leading to debtism.

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written by asp, March 09, 2013
and, actualy, i am a person who is very sensitive to how brazil is treated by its neighbors...maybe oversensitive

because, i thought it was some bulls**t when moralas, after hanging around with fidel and chavez in cuba, nationalised petrobras and put the bolivian flag over it....nothing wrong with nationalising the oil, but, the show of putting the flag over petrobraz, with the troops standing by was right out of the fidel playbook...with chavez grinning in the background (metaphor) moralas put on a dramatic presention , looking like the cuban revolution ...just like it....a blast from the past

and it was like a little dog peeing on brazil's leg....

being the cash cow for these players,what with farc camping out and giving money to correa in equador, the chavez support and letting them run coke and arms through venezuela into the amazon area , brazil is on the short end of the stick in the bolivarian revolution, especialy getting to be the great example of getting petrbras internationaly photo opped for moralas to have his fidel moment in the sun...


i dont know ricy, that made me pissed for what happened to brazil....were you? i guess how chavez is perceived in the usa is more important to you than what he actualy did to brazil...what a two faced freind he is
The US economic system is completely broken....
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 09, 2013

Bitter Pill: The Exorbitant Prices of Health Care – February 22, 3013
http://youtu.be/I4yIlbh0CwE

Steven Brill talks to TIME about his cover story on the outrageous pricing and egregious profits that are destroying our health care.


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Adding Up and Breaking Down Health Care's Big Price Tags – February 25, 2013
http://youtu.be/cxMqCnR7vtQ

Why does a few days of lab work end up costing more than the price of a car? Judy Woodruff interviews journalist Steven Brill about his Time magazine cover story about how and why the private marketplace isn't working in the health care industry.

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Hugo Chavez attributes
written by Limpopo, March 09, 2013
Hugo Chavez, besides being for the little people in their struggle against capitalism, somehow, like his contemporary Yassar Arafat, deified the odds to become wealthy in his own right, and in a country where the average salary is roughly 13,000 dollars, managed to acquire a fortune estimated to be more than a billion dollars!

He is a wonderful example to the rest of the world of what an individual can do when inspired by honesty, integrity, a dedication to principle, a love of freedom of the press, judicial equality, and a humble demeanor. No wonder ruthless dictators around the world are shedding tears at his passing.
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 09, 2013

He is a wonderful example to the rest of the world of what an individual can do when inspired by honesty, integrity, a dedication to principle, a love of freedom of the press, judicial equality, and a humble demeanor.


A fitting obituary note to the departed, but...but...but..(soon to be mummified) Leader, my dear fellow. smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

Poor fella doesn't get a "decent" Christian burial nor Jewish cremation.smilies/sad.gif

But...but...but... the least Nick Maduro can do is to invite some leading Egyptian experts on Mummification to do a prim and proper job on the "El Comandante", before he is put into the glass case and displayed to the public.smilies/sad.gif
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written by asp, March 10, 2013
they should just stuff him and make a trophy out of him to put up on the wall with his endless speeches running on an i pod hidden in his mouth....
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written by João da Silva, March 10, 2013

they should just stuff him and make a trophy out of him to put up on the wall with his endless speeches running on an i pod hidden in his mouth....


I was talking to my "better and more intelligent half" about the issue of "Mummification" of our heroes. She cant recall one such "Mummification" in our history.smilies/shocked.gif

The "Spanish Americans" have the history of turning leaders (?) like Perons, Kirchners,Chavezes, etc; into cult figures. But...but...but... in spite of our several faults, we the "Portuguese Americans" don't give a s**t about our "departed Leaders".smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
João da Silva
written by Lloyd Cata, March 11, 2013
// ...in spite of our several faults, we the "Portuguese Americans" don't give a s**t about our "departed Leaders". //

Ashes-to-ashes, dust-to-dust - Madade Tussauds would have done just as well. This 'cult-of-personality' has never been effective, when only the Truth will survive the verdict of history.
Joao da Silva and Ederson - Watch this Great Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 11, 2013

Ricardo:Joao da Silva and Ederson I like to suggest that you guys watch this Great Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TED – March 2013
Allan Savory: How to green the desert and reverse climate change

http://www.ted.com/talks/ alla...and_rever
se_climate_change.html


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Correct web link
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 11, 2013
Correct link to video
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 11, 2013

Ricardo: I don't know why I am having a problem with the link to this video?



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Corbett Report: International Law? - March 8, 2013
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 11, 2013

Corbett Report: International Law? - March 8, 2013
http://youtu.be/2_A7FAfm6kg

Truth. Justice. Accountability. The idea of an international rule of law appeals to our innate sense of justice, but the most horrific plans are often cloaked in the most beautiful lies. Just as the ideals of international law are used to cloak the imperial ambitions of the globalists, so too is the idea of seeking justice in these controlled courtrooms a phoney pipe dream. Join us today on The Corbett Report as we explore the only real solution to this problem: removing the bodyguard of lies from the power elite and to withdrawing ourselves from the systems that seek to legitimize their rule.

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Ricardo and climate change
written by Limpopo, March 11, 2013
Ricardo, we watched your video. Interesting, and there may very well be something to this. However, in some of the locations on this planet where there is desertification, such as north Africa, there is a permanent high, which brings extremely dry air from the upper altitudes down to the surface. Sometimes, these highs wander, but for the last seven thousand years there has been one parked over north Africa, and no amount of goats or sheep are going to persuade it to move. Highs can insure a scrabble-poor existence, but they make for great flying weather.
Ricardo, thanks for the link...
written by Lloyd Cata, March 11, 2013
Corbett Report: International Law? - March 8, 2013
http://youtu.be/2_A7FAfm6kg

...and now you see why I think this is an excellent medium for Truth.

Did you catch the "Council on Foreign Relations(CFR)" reference? Very important! http://t.co/mSluScUBpy

This is an article that 'every' Egyptian should read. Sadly, most will not be able to 'interpret' the underlying 'threat' to -destabilize- Egypt if it does not bow to the wishes of the Empire. BLACKMAIL! ...or we will 'overthrow' the elected government by subterfuge and discord.

Mr. Kerry would do well to understand that this is not 1950, ...but the choice is Egypt's, ...or I should say that the choice should be Egypt's. Now from this you see that the 'choices' some make are the desperation of the 'real' threat to Egyptian sovereignty.
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written by João da Silva, March 11, 2013

This is an article that 'every' Egyptian should read. Sadly, most will not be able to 'interpret' the underlying 'threat' to -destabilize- Egypt if it does not bow to the wishes of the Empire. BLACKMAIL! ...or we will 'overthrow' the elected government by subterfuge and discord.


There we go again to my favorite and fascinating topic. Hopefully our new but distinguished fellow blogger Limpopo expresses his points of view on the maiden pilgrimage of John Kerry to the M.E.

By coincidence, I was talking to my neighbor and friend (an ole warrior) who mentioned about Bar Lev line, which was breached by the Egyptians during the Yom Kippur war. He didn't know how they did it within less than 3 hours. But...but...but.. his point was that the Egyptians are very smart and have been secular so far and it would be a pity if they let the Muslim Brotherhood start turning the country into an "Islamic Republic".smilies/sad.gif

Dr.L.C., how was Caracas?smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Libyan Muslims torture Christians!
written by Limpopo, March 11, 2013
Libyan Muslims torturing Egyptian Christians? This is an outrage! The only people qualified to torture an Egyptian Christian is an Egyptian Muslim! Egypt will probably go to war over this!smilies/tongue.gif http://www.foxnews.com/world/2...islamists/
Islam, Muslim Brotherhood, and Other "Explanations" for War...
written by Lloyd Cata, March 11, 2013
João, sorry you require 'interpretation' of Mr. Hauss' words. Did I not say people are distracted by minor events( http://goo.gl/lHBXi ) and must focus on the 'causality' of events...( http://goo.gl/SxRM1 )smilies/wink.gif

Do you forget that this is a calculated move, by both superpowers, and we know who won, because it was neither the Arabs or the Israeli's. Sadat sued the US/Israeli Alliance for peace. Egypt became a defacto 'client' of the US($). Let me tell you something; once again, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan are being squeezed into support for the Empire, and the "Islamic Kingdom of Saudi Arabia" could care less about an Egyptian, Palestinian, or Syrian, ...they already have their 'seat' at the table. smilies/shocked.gif

The Sunni/Shia 'divide' is being used to fracture Islam(!), and there is no price that is too great for this outcome. So, Syria(Assad/Christians) will also fall to the Sunni/Al Qaeda Alliance. Surely there are guns in the pipeline for the rebels, and the US was waiting for word from Rome(?) because after all, what happens to Syria's Christian(Assad) community? B-b-but let'snot forget the Shia of the Gulf(UAE/Bahrain) who are under persecution from US Allies( http://goo.gl/nJ17j ) smilies/sad.gif

You see, Washington 'must' get a deal tha the Vatican can live with, no? The Vatican is somehow not interested if the Islamists take over? Better the Devil you know, eh? Libya, same story. Guns to the terrorists, resulting in one dead ambassador, right? NO DEAL,...yet(!)

This 'threat' to destabilize Egypt could have serious consequences for everyone around the world. Egypt is one of three(3) power centres on the AFRICAN continent; the others being Nigeria and South Africa(Limpopo!). The 'agenda' of the Empire was to make Libya a 4th centre, but unfortunately a little street vendor in Tunisia had other ideas. The repercussions still linger, ...Syria. smilies/sad.gif

What say you, Mr. Limpopo, ...now that we have sorted out your credentials! As you see, everyone must identify not so much with education or occupation, but with 'ideas' worthy of discussion. smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cool.gif

Ohhh, and I wanted to pass something along to -asp-, and all those who travel by bus the highways and byways of the world. You know my travels do take me to places high and low, but always thank God for safe arrival;

// Ex-pats Who Take The Bus //
http://goo.gl/QHnE6


Saudi/Israel alliance
written by Limpopo, March 11, 2013
The Saudi/Israeli alliance. This is no secret. The disbelief of those on the outside concerning a possible partnering of those two has long masked their mutual interest. Indeed, they have historical ties. Anatolia, the Hittites, and a wandering clan of Ammorites are not the only begetters of the Jews. Moses may have come out of Egypt, but the Saudis knew the Jewish God long before the Jews technically existed.
To deny such truth is akin to acknowledging the Roman Church as the historical seat of Christianity, which would be a joke. Doubters can begin simply with the Constitution of Medina and work backwards or forwards at their leisure. The Jews and Saudis share a very common history, as do the Jews with Yemen.

But perhaps Egypt is the key. The natural enemy of Egypt is not Israel. The fact that Israel and Egypt ever fought each other speaks poorly of Arab pride, not of an inborn hate Egypt and Israel have for each other. It also says much about Syria and the world's ability to dupe the Egyptians.
The apparent enemy of Egypt is Saudi Arabia. Didn't the Egyptians fight the Saudis in a pro-longed war that the Egyptians refer to as their 'Vietnam?' The three apparent powers in the Middle-east are Iran, the Saudis, and Egypt: any two together would constitute an evil alliance, but among the three, the Saudis, as long as they maintain a secret alliance with Israel, will always remain on top, for Israel acts as their lightning rod against Egypt and Iran.
And Israel benefits too in intelligence and having the Saudis turn their backs at appropriate times, such as when a reactor has to be bombed or an ammo dump destroyed in the Sudan.
The Saudis loved Mubarak for a reason and now distrust Obama for his ignorance and meddling. Neither the Saudis nor Egyptians are stupid; the Egyptians know what the Saudis are doing in Africa and are using the Iranians to bolster their position and to smuggle arms across the straits into Yemen. The Saudis know it, and any bomb the Israelis can plant on a Shia munitions factory in the Sudan is probably much appreciated. This is just a little reminder; a full explanation would require a lengthy book.

Old and boring news
written by Limpopo, March 11, 2013
This is probably old news to those with an interest in the Middle-east, but it is still very relevant. http://www.ynetnews.com/articl...00,00.html
Actually It Was Honduras...
written by Lloyd Cataa, March 11, 2013
Since I am looking for Mr. Santo negotiations with FARC. These negotiations are not in US/Chamber-of-Commerce interests, nor in the 'strategic interest' of certain parties. You must be made to 'fear' what you cannot save yourself from, ....which in the end is yourselves! smilies/cry.gifsmilies/cry.gifsmilies/cry.gif

Really, another journey to northern climes awaits this humble servant and student, and I must prepare body and soul for a winter like no other. Perhaps, like my friend the Bear, I will sleep all winter smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cool.gif
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written by João da Silva, March 11, 2013

Old and boring news


It might be old, but...but...but... not boring. In mah last post which went into cyberspace, I had complimented you for your originality and not posting links for us to read like a "High school Principal". Alas, you had to send me to a link.smilies/shocked.gif

Actually It Was Honduras...


L.C., Did your "Missus" tag long with ya to Honduras ? If she did, my warm regards to her!smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 11, 2013

Ex-pats Who Take The Bus //


Don't ya ever give this B.S. to me, ole boy. Some two decades ago, I took your Greyhound from FL to CA as a tourist. Horrible experience. Even at that time our Long distance buses were more comfortable and reliable. As I keep on saying, we can be faulted for many shortcomings, but...but...but... there are several good things about us that the "ex-pats" are unable or unwilling (or both) to appreciate.

BTW, I strongly urge & recommend that both foreign and domestic tourists not come to our state. They can all go to Rio which is much cleaner, hospitable and has a highly sophisticated infrastructure exclusively built to cater to the needs of the tourists. smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Sorry, Joao
written by Limpopo, March 11, 2013
The only reason I did so was to authenticate or lend credence to what I suggest or write. As someone without the credentials of either your esteemed Ricardo or Doctor Cata, I sometimes wonder if anyone will believe what I might suggest, especially when it comes to the complex relations between nations of Africa and the Middle-east. I promise not to post any more links.


But take heart; I did politely warn you of the potential for redundancy of the link; it was also short and to the point: perhaps even short enough to capture the interest of even the shortest attention span.
Who Is The Real Threat To Brazil?
written by Lloyd Cata, March 12, 2013
// farc is hooked up with a rougue element in the paraguay army , and this is a devastating fact , since i always knew some of the other contributors to this decay from coke and arms flooding the market is coming from paraguay // - asp

http://goo.gl/TrrcR -- Ooohh! We are watching this little troublemaker!

How did we get from FARC(Colombia) to Paraguay? Hhhmmm...

I hear there's a big, big drugs and arms market down there(Paraguay/Argentina/Brazil) border. Quite a little bazaar that some compare to Marrakech.

Funny that such a market should spring up in the -south- of Brazil, when I would think such activities would be more suitable to 'insignificant' locales like Belem. Perhaps I should ask a Brazilian banker, huh?

Better you should get acquainted with the subject of 'intelligence' before you profess to have any. smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Limpopo....
written by Lloyd Cata, March 12, 2013
// especially when it comes to the complex relations between nations of Africa and the Middle-east. // - Limpopo

Ahhh sir, I am aggrieved of your decision to leave the forum. Particularly any part my poor social skills have done to influence your decision. Certainly my loss, as I see that you have a keen mind that does look at the 'causality' of events and not just the circumstance of the moment.

Perhaps we will come across each other again in this medium, because I am always telling 'stories', and I think you have one in you that is ready to be told. May as well tell it here first, since it will go no futher than this forum, eh? C'mon, tell us what you see when you look deep into the waterfalls? smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cool.gif
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written by asp, March 12, 2013
hey lolyd caka doodoo, i heard the farc /rougue paraguai hook up on a real news report down here in brazil,not your stupid armchair quarterback /million miles away ignorant observations

put your f**king star war toys away and come back to reality, and take the darth vadar doll out of your anus
Not leaving the forum
written by Limpopo, March 12, 2013
Mister Cata. My English is somewhat confused at times; I do not always get the point or get my point across. I'm not leaving the forum. I just promised Joao that I won't offer anymore links. I did not understand they were frowned upon.

And I'm certain that you have a lot of 'stories', Mister Cata. I certainly enjoy your posts, for it is easy to see that your analysis is based on considerable study. Stories? I really have none, but I have a friend who has a passion for anything related to the Antonov AN-12 and Africa.
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 12, 2013

Mister Cata. My English is somewhat confused at times;


Not really. Master Cata has the habit of not reading the others comments fully and thus coming to hasty conclusions.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

Never mind him.Please tell us more on Antonov A12 & Africa.
Limpopo, I Await Such A Book
written by Lloyd Cataaà, March 12, 2013
See, my friends, how Mr. Limpopo does 'connect-the-dots'. He truly 'reminds' us all how the 'mirror-of-history' presents Truth that is not found among all the headlines smilies/cool.gif
Links Not Welcome?
written by Lloyd Cata, March 12, 2013
Yikes! ...have I stumbled into some changed venue, where I am even unfamiliar with the language and custom. Decidedly, I must continue my inspection of what has happened here during my absence. smilies/shocked.gif
Greyhound Travels!
written by Lloyd Cata, March 12, 2013
// I took your Greyhound from FL to CA as a tourist. Horrible experience. // - João da Silva

Ahhh, FL -->>CA, Certainly a trip worthy of a 'grand turista', as you see I have taken the same journey along our infamous US-10/20 highways via Greyhound.

You see, when I had concluded my 'formal studies' in engineering, my poor brain was simply overloaded with 'data', which 2 years of pure science and mathematics can do. In the end, for those who have experienced such a phenomenon, the subjects merge into one Universal Truth, and so you will understand when graduate students become confused as to whether they are doing physics work, mathematics, chemistry, or electronics; the formulas for solution require the same 'tools' for resolution.

In any case, I purchased a three(3) month Greyhound Pass; less than $400 at the time, and you could go 'anywhere' Greyhound goes. Just the ticket! An American adventure, I felt like Alexis de Tocqueville, leaving the blackboard behind to begin a Grand Journey. Surely I did traverse the USA six times in that 3 months, always taking a different route north-south/east-west, covering all the states except two(2?)

When I hear people speak of how they have seen America, I just smilesmilies/smiley.gif Yes, my friend, it is not a pleasant journey, even today! Those buses are also carrying unpleasant people, and the sanitary situation would sometimes gag the staunchest traveler.(Suggestion: Go shopping, and take your own food on such journeys) smilies/sad.gif

However, there is nothing like such escapades to relieve the brain of its indominable ability to 'calculate'! smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cool.gif

Perhaps, our dear moderator did not see my final words of that 'link', or perhaps he should ask the nearest bus driver as to the Truth of my words, eh?
Pope race and odds
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 12, 2013

Ricardo: The Cardinals have reached the homestretch, and Italian Archbishop Angelo Scola still ahead of the pack, but Cardinal Scherer of Brazil started making his move and he just passed Ghana’s Cardinal Peter Turkson to take second place.

Cardinal Scherer of Brazil is gaining ground on Italian Archbishop Angelo Scola, and there's plenty of space for the Brazilian Cardinal to arrive in first place at the finish line.



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March 12, 2013

Italian archbishop Angelo Scola is favorite to be the next pope ahead of Ghana’s Peter Turkson and Odilo Scherer of Brazil, bookmakers said Tuesday as cardinals prepared to choose the new pontiff.


Bookmakers were also taking bets on the official name that the successor to Benedict XVI will take, with Leo, Peter and Gregory the favorites.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/3...-next-pope

Irish bookmaker Paddy Power and Britain’s William Hill said Scola’s chances had improved dramatically and both gave the Milan archbishop odds of 9/4 to be the next pope.

The likelihood of a first African pope diminished meanwhile as the once highly favored Cardinal Turkson dropped down the betting rankings, while Cardinal Scherer leapt up the table.

William Hill put Turkson in second place on 7/2 and Scherer, the archbishop of Sao Paolo, in third at 4/1. Paddy Power put Scherer second at 4/1 and Turkson in third on 6/1.

Italian Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone — the Vatican camerlengo, or chamberlain — is at 6/1 with William Hill and 10/1 with Paddy Power.

And so on...

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Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 12, 2013

OK, L.C., now that we both agree that Greyhound is not the right kind of mode of transport for people like us in the good ole U.S. of A., shall we get back to Mr.Nimpopo's comments titled "Saudi/Israel alliance"?

I must confess that his "observations", though news to me , make sense. They are totally different from what we are lead to believe by the MSM.

He wrote:

The three apparent powers in the Middle-east are Iran, the Saudis, and Egypt: any two together would constitute an evil alliance, but among the three, the Saudis, as long as they maintain a secret alliance with Israel, will always remain on top, for Israel acts as their lightning rod against Egypt and Iran.
And Israel benefits too in intelligence and having the Saudis turn their backs at appropriate times, such as when a reactor has to be bombed or an ammo dump destroyed in the Sudan.


My question to Mr.Limpop:

If such is the case, do the Saudis with their vast oil wealth also provide "Financial aid" to Israel?smilies/shocked.gif

You L.C., being a leading authority on Conspiracies, have anything to add?smilies/cry.gif
Children of Abraham
written by lloyd cata, March 12, 2013
As I was reading the gospels of Mark and Mathew, I discovered where Moses appeared, sanctifying Christ as the Son of God.

Now you must understand that this is blasphemy to most Jews, but the Muslims also 'recognize' Christ as Prophet. After all, before the Zionists came to power in Israel, churches, temples, and mosques were side-by-side throughout the Muslim world. Seee how/when Mr. Rabin's assassination did change the landscape, particularly with respect to Iran. Thus reigniting the divide in the Islamic world between Sunni and Shiite sects. So, the re-emergence of Al Qaeda(Sunni) against the Iranian(Shiite) is not so surprising.

As far as Saudis supporting Israel, you need to fully understand the US position of economic and military support for 'both sides', no?

Or, as I have said, "The Personal Paradise of Death -vs- The Ultimate Agenda of Armageddon", sponsored by the US government and financed with the a$$ets of the American people.

Or, when I am in a 'conspiratorial' frame of mind, I just watch our esteemed former governor Jesse Ventura, who is much, much better at exposing such things. I am sure his explanations, given his illustrious career will be much more 'entertaining' than anything I would imagine smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cool.gif
The Question of News and Entertainment
written by Lloyd Cata, March 12, 2013
// I must confess that his "observations", though news to me , make sense. They are totally different from what we are lead to believe by the MSM. // - João da Silva

This is second time in this thread that you have been given 'news' not propaganda, so we come back to; "...an education is only as good as the Truth of the matter", because as you see, it is not taught in your schools or disiminated by your media, nor mine!smilies/sad.gif

Where, pray tell, is our Aviator, who favored Brazzil over many Western journals? Has he found enough 'runways' in Colombia to support the US 'forward-operating-bases'? Perhaps he is busy charting his 'flight path' between Cartegena and Port Stanley smilies/cheesy.gif
Ricardo Amaral
written by Lloyd Cata, March 12, 2013
How very 'atheistic' of you to broadcast the 'odds' of such an outcome! Do you know that my God works in 'mysterious ways'? Yet, understanding that The Holy Spirit has not taken up with you, yet(!), I await the results with prayer and belief that God's Will Be Done. Of this I assure you! Amen
Star Wars, ...And Other Imaginary Concepts
written by Lloyd Cata, March 12, 2013
// put your f**king star war toys away and come back to reality, and take the darth vadar doll out of your anus // - asp

Is it the climate that affects you in such a way? You do understand that "Star Wars" is a Ronald Reagan production, Starring Dick Cheney as Darth Vader? What are you eating that makes your brain do such extraordinary gymnastics with the Truth?

I am not going to post the 'news' of such ignorance as Star Wars(x), or who is having anal difficulties smilies/grin.gif, but you do know that I still like Avatar(...now that you consider the concept of First Peoples!)
US/Al Qaeda "Interests"
written by Lloyd Cata, March 12, 2013
Mr. Obama is about to embark upon the Second Coming of Pharoah to the Mid-East. The pomp and ceremony of the trip is sure to keep the world tuned in for anything 'unexpected'.

Now we know that he is no 'great leader' to the Israeli people, much less the whipping boy for the Zionist leaders of Israel. His 'inability' to even question the Occupation and Expansion of Greater Israel, will be 'front-and-center', but expect to see Mr. Obama cheerfully propose unwavering support for Israel, unquestionably and under 'any' circumstances. NOT EVEN A FICTITIOUS ROAD MAP! They may as well be US settlements, huh?

What I would caution Mr. Obama, is to be wary of Zionist 'protocols' smilies/wink.gif, which the Jews are known to erect as subservience to their Ideology. Maybe Mr. da Silva will remember when Brazil's Lula went to visit the Holy Land, but managed to side-step the trap of Idolatry. To think that someone of limited -education-, certainly not of the caliber of Mr. Obama, would understand the 'protocols' of such a visit is instructive. For Mr. Obama to 'ignore' the lesson could -unintentionally- worsen the 'state-of-affairs' on the ground.

Mr. Obama wants no parts of the 'settlements' question. Whatever 'line' the Israeli's draw will be the 'policy' of the United States. When he has made that 'clear' to everybody from Tel Aviv to Teheran, we shall see the fruits of his journey, because it is not a Journey for Peace. It is an understanding that, "there will be no Palestinian State under his presidency!"

The second part of his journey will be to extend his hand to the Muslim Brotherhood(al Qaeda proxy) in Egypt. This is where he must be 'firm' and make sure the Sunni's/Al Qaeda understand that 'we-can-do-business'. His appeal with be 'bread' for subservience, befitting Pharoahs edicts. The Egyptian military is in no position to 'switch sides' right now! Mr. Obama knows this, Mr. Morsi knows this, and if he doesn't - 'news' to me.

As I said, there is a 'certain doctor' to be dealt with, so be prepared for 'anything' as a display of 'defiance' to the 'interests' of the United States. The evidence of what I just said is the corpse of one dead US Ambassador, who lost his life 'entertaining' such 'interests'. Mrs. Clinton can't tell the American people that, so ...

I wish Mr. Obama and his entourage a safe trip to the Middle East. I hope he is praying for the success of his work, b-b-but I 'remind' him that just as in his 'drone posture', there are also "consequences for success".
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 12, 2013


Now you must understand that this is blasphemy to most Jews, but the Muslims also 'recognize' Christ as Prophet.


I don't think well informed people of Jewish faith will consider it as a blasphemy. BTW, few years ago I was talking to a highly educated Muslim who has studied Koran and he confirmed what you are saying. Except that the poor fella didn't understand why the Christians suddenly started considering the Muslims as their enemies.I could make out he was not well versed in Geopolitics like L.C. & Mr.Nimpopo.

Where, pray tell, is our Aviator, who favored Brazzil over many Western journals?


Our Aviator files the flight paths and flies to distant places in his own mysterious ways.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

BTW, how can be sure that your real name is not James G. Janos?smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Limpopo, March 12, 2013
Good question; do the Saudis support Israel with financial aid? In a most round-about way, it certainly does! The Palestinians are 99% Sunni. As the Saudis open their coffers to their spiritual kin, they do so with the apparent awareness that an armed Palestinian diaspora is a threat to the royal family as much as it would be to the Israelis.
Take note. The Palestinian attack on Jordan alarmed the Saudis. Jordan is part of the cult of royalty in the Middle-east and a loyal Saudi ally. The Saudis were unable to protect their younger cousins through force of arms, but someone did answer the call to protect a Sunni monarchy, and they did it with class. That rescuer of the royal pride was none other than the Zionists.
Have no doubt about it. The Israelis saved face for the royal family.
As a result, when the young Saudi princes wanted to rattle the Israelis with shouts of bravado, someone within the royal house came down hard on them and more or less told them to cool their heels.
The Saudis were rattled years earlier by Egypt's attacks on Saudi Arabia, which resulted in something of a standstill. I'm sure the Saudis laughed hysterically when only a few months later, the Zionists beat the crap out of the chest-thumping Nassar. Don't underestimate the Saudis or Egypt, they learn through experience, but so do the Zionists. The Jews are playing within the rules set forth for them by the Saudis, and they are doing it well. They are guarding the royal family's back, especially when it comes to Jordan.

Yes, we all know the Zionist Jews are wrong. The right of return as it relates to the Palestinians should never be extrapolated to the descendants of pigs and lesser primates, the Zionists. Indeed, the Israelis should take at face value every promise ever made to them by anyone. But as long as they continue to believe in the promises of their God, they will remain in their homeland and of possible use to those neighboring countries who see in them a measure of faithfulness.

So, in a round-about way, the Saudis, while not entirely endorsing the Zionist lifestyle, probably don't wish them any harm at the moment, especially as Iran begins rattling its sabres in earnest.
NPR Radio - Brazil
written by Lloyd Cata, March 12, 2013
Listening to reporter from Folia speaking about the 'new' progressive Catholics; Father Marcelo Rossi. Let me remind you that a Pope does not have to be selected from the Curia!
See, I Told You, ...Limpopo Knows!
written by Lloyd Cata, March 12, 2013
// As a result, when the young Saudi princes wanted to rattle the Israelis with shouts of bravado, someone within the royal house came down hard on them and more or less told them to cool their heels. // - Limpopo

...which they -refused- to do, thus funding the "Islamic Jihad", which has its more radical elements in Al Qaeda.

So, you see tha there is more going on here than a few firecrackers hitting Israel.

// Lloyd Cata - Huffington Post
10/05/2012
The Jordanian king sits in the middle of a very dangerous and volatile neighborhood with some 40% of his population being Palestinian. I can not imagine the forces he has to contend with to keep Jordan together. It is not easy, and there is not much he can do other than to 'appear' to be a "benevolent dictator".

It is in 'nobody's' interest for Jordan to blow up, and the king is going to have to readjust his thinking on his US/Israeli partnership. As long as 'everyone' is clear, "Democracy is not the be all/end all of Jordanian life". A delicate position given the "Arab Spring", but the king is not above 'mass murder' either to defend his throne. It is what he was "born to do", and he takes it as seriously as Queen Elizabeth. //

Now Jordan becomes the 'staging ground' for the overthrow of Assad, and Jordan has no room to 'entertain' Palestinian aspirations for statehood. He has no interest of assisting them in this struggle.
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 12, 2013

See, I Told You, ...Limpopo Knows!


Told who, L.C.?>smilies/sad.gif
Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 12, 2013

Ricardo: There's a lot of money from around the world that people are betting on this race to see who will be the next Pope.

The odds are changing and you can place a bet on your favorite Cardinal.

This is not a joke - you actually can bet on a number of Cardinals just like a horse race and they give the odds according with the chances that a certain Cardinal has of becoming the next Pope.

I would not be surprised that they already have fixed the result of the race and an Italian Cardinal will be the next Pope.

People are betting thousands of dollars on their favorite Cardinal.

The Brazilian Cardinal has a chance to win this race and his odds is 4-1.

I wonder if people also can bet in exacta and trifecta bets.


*****


By the way Lloyd, on the first voting that they had today at the conclave there were 115 first places - every Cardinal voted for himself to be the next Pope.

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Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 12, 2013

The Palestinians are 99% Sunni. As the Saudis open their coffers to their spiritual kin, they do so with the apparent awareness that an armed Palestinian diaspora is a threat to the royal family as much as it would be to the Israelis.


A great post, Limpopo. But...but....but...what role does Lebanon play in this scenario? Are they dispensable pawns in this great chess game?

Another question: Bashar (?) Assad was (and probably still is) a Brit. Why would L.C.'s Empire and its minions on the "Island" would want to get rid of him?
Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 12, 2013

Ricardo: It will be very interesting what happen in the coming months and even years.

How about if Pope # 1 decides to come out of retirement and take another shot at playing Pope.

What happen to Pope # 2 ?

How Pope # 2 is going to handle the situation?

Will Pope # 2 consult with Pope # 1 on a regular basis?

There was a time in the past when they had 3 popes at the same time.

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Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, March 12, 2013

By the way Lloyd, on the first voting that they had today at the conclave there were 115 first places - every Cardinal voted for himself to be the next Pope.


Ricardo, the election of the pope reminds me of that of a "Sindico" of the Condos ! smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Limpopo doesn't know.
written by Limpopo, March 13, 2013
Sorry, Mr. Joao. I don't understand the British connection to Syria. My deepest understanding of the area almost stops at the Golan Heights.

Lebanon? Gee, that would be an excellent question for the many Christian Arabs living in Brasil to answer.
I pretty much threw my hands into the air and walked away from Lebanon after the King's forces locked heads with the Syrians during Black September and tossed the PLO out, who then belatedly slipped away to Lebanon and became fodder for the Druse.

To understand that moment you really have to have a flow chart. You have the King's army fighting the PLO after the Israelis dealt with them on approximately 500 different occasions; you have the king's army being commanded by a Pakistani; you have an Iraqi force of uncertain loyalty in Jordan for what reason; you have Pakistanis standing in confusion; you have the wonderful King of Jordan absolutely tearing his hair out after dealing with the PLO; you have Nixon urging the Israelis to prepare to defend a Sunni monarchy, and you have three aircraft carriers of the American fleet preparing to get involved.
What a mess. Jordon as a country deserves far more credit than they have ever been given by anyone. Many people feel the Israelis saved the day without firing a shot by their buildup on the border and their overflights of the Syrian invasion force. Maybe so. But Jordan is blessed with an incredibly worthy royal family. Their leadership will never be fully recognized. And yes, despite the mistakes, they have proven themselves friends to everyone and thoughtful. They are the moderates in this world, the unrecognized heroes who have dealt with incredible stress.

Sorry, back to Lebanon. I think the perception is that the Syrians stole it from the Christian Arabs with help from Iran, but I'll leave it to someone else to tell me. Good question. Someday, I'll ask Ederson or do some serious study on Lebanon.
Vatican Oddmakers
written by Lloyd Cata, March 13, 2013
Yes Ricardo, I do know about such gambling, and would not be surprised to find some church clerics engaged in these activitiessmilies/sad.gif
Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 13, 2013

Ricardo: Lloyd, they still taking bets on the Pope race. Here are today's odds in case you decide to make some money.

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/i...a-se.shtml


The bad news is that the Brazilian Cardinal odds on that race went from 4 - 1 to 5 - 1.

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Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 13, 2013

Ricardo: Lloyd, here is more info for you:

Bookies offer odds on who will be next Pope – March 12, 2013
http://youtu.be/L2pViYmY1kI

Irish bookmaker Paddy Power said on Tuesday that the choice of the next pope is set to be the biggest non-sporting event the company has ever taken bets on.

"So far, only after two days, there is more than a 100-thousand euro bet on the various candidates," said Paddy Power Spokesman, Rory Scott.

Scott said the company expected that even more money would be bet this time than in 2005, when Benedict XVI became pope.

"The betting was massive at that stage as well, it was over a (m) million euro placed. And this time we think it will be much bigger than that," he said.

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Limpopo
written by Lloyd Cata, March 13, 2013
My favorite contemporary philosopher - Khalil Gibran( http://goo.gl/uaEHh ) was Lebanese. I think everyone should read "The Prophet" once in life. Many things about life, living, and Humanity is in this book. For me, the best Eastern thinker to migrate to the US. If all the Muslim haters would read this book they would have different opinion about what great thinkers have come from the Middle-East, adopted Western culture, but certainly not Western 'values'.

// He used to say : "I am not a politician, nor do I wish to become one" and "Spare me the political events and power struggles, as the whole earth is my homeland and all men are my fellow countrymen" //

...and so you may see where 'some' of my dialect comes from, for I have had many 'tutors'.
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 13, 2013

Limpopo doesn't know.


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Lebanon? Gee, that would be an excellent question for the many Christian Arabs living in Brasil to answer.


I know several "Christian Arabs" and believe it or not they are clueless as to what's going on in the "Lands of their Ancestors".

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You came out with another info (about the Jordanian Monarchy) which is again news to me! Late King Hussein of Jordan was portrayed as a traitor to the cause of the "Palestinians" by the MSM (fully backed up by the ex-Soviet propaganda machine). Thanks for enriching my knowledge.

Sorry, back to Lebanon. I think the perception is that the Syrians stole it from the Christian Arabs with help from Iran, but I'll leave it to someone else to tell me. Good question. Someday, I'll ask Ederson or do some serious study on Lebanon.


When you talk to my good buddy Cel.Ederson (if at all he has time to attend you & me), please do convey my warm regards. Please also tell him, I am around in this blog and look forward to be in touch with him.smilies/wink.gif
Ricardo
written by Lloyd Cata, March 13, 2013
Hope you don't have any money in the 'game', because it sounds like somebody at Vatican Central is going to clean up when none of the 'betting' picks wears the Crown.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/shocked.gif
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, March 13, 2013

Ricardo, you better listen to following advice given by L.C.:

Hope you don't have any money in the 'game', because it sounds like somebody at Vatican Central is going to clean up when none of the 'betting' picks wears the Crown.


You must have read about the Vatican Bank, the ex-butler of the ex-Pope, etc;smilies/cry.gif

If I had any money, I'll bet on the Cardinal from "Down under"smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
King Hussein a traitor?
written by Limpopo, March 13, 2013
I laughed when I read your comment, Mister Joao. A traitor? Good Lord! When he was 15 years old he was present at his father's assassination by the Palestinians for reportedly trying to have a discourse with the Zionists and bringing some semblance of peace to the area. He himself has survived several assassination attempts. King Hussein was also a gentleman. When one of my friends married a Jordanian girl, the king stopped by to wish them well. He was a good man by any measure.

This thread has been particularly interesting. Within the topic range of selecting a new Pope, the Catholic Church, the death of Hugo, and the Middle-east and Africa, there were many points that relate directly to Brasil and, I believe, should be noted. However, the topic requires a bit of thought. Your Doctor Cata was to the point when he hinted at a need for the Islamic factions to increase the size and scope of their spheres of influence. I think he was correct. It only takes time, but what is happening to Brasil seems preordained and follows a past cycle that in many cases around the world has ensured some degree of success for those wishing to increase their influence. Only time will tell, but for the moment, Doctor Cata's opinion are certainly worthy.
Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 13, 2013

Ricardo: First, I didn't bet any money on this Pope race. I learned a lot about gambling, but I am not a gambler myself.

Second, today the bookmakers in England had Argentina Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio odds to become the new Pope at 40 - 1

Some people from Argentina must have made a ton of money.



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Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 13, 2013

I laughed when I read your comment, Mister Joao. A traitor? Good Lord! When he was 15 years old he was present at his father's assassination by the Palestinians for reportedly trying to have a discourse with the Zionists and bringing some semblance of peace to the area. He himself has survived several assassination attempts. King Hussein was also a gentleman. When one of my friends married a Jordanian girl, the king stopped by to wish them well. He was a good man by any measure.


I didn't mean to be disrespectful to the late King, but...but...but...merely wanted to point out that how little we Brasilians know of that part of the world & how much the MSM distorts the facts. For eg. No world press would have given the news about the King wishing your friend and his Jordanian wife all the best. However, if her Majesty the Queen of England had gone to Timbuktu and run into the wedding ceremony of one of her "subjects" to a local and complimented the couple, the event would be broadcasted to the entire world. smilies/sad.gif

This thread has been particularly interesting. Within the topic range of selecting a new Pope, the Catholic Church, the death of Hugo, and the Middle-east and Africa, there were many points that relate directly to Brasil and, I believe, should be noted.


I wholeheartedly agree with you.Distinguished old friends such as Dr.L.C. ( I ain't going to let him roll over us), Rickey ( He is more of a technocrat & should really visit the M.E!!!!), my neighbor ( a defiant one who learned his fighting skill in South Chicago) and you, the disciple of Cel.Eddie are making the thread interesting.

But...but...but... coming back to the election of the Pope, I was stunned that it is an Argentine. Argentine Catholic church has always been behind the Brasilian one. So how is he going to reconcile the "differences"?

I think Dr.Cata shot the bolt this time, by predicting that the Yanks would prefer one that they can control.smilies/sad.gif Ah don't think Cristina would allow the Gentleman to be submissive to the "Empire".smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

It is your turn L.C. You licking your wounds?????????smilies/cool.gif
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, March 13, 2013

Some people from Argentina must have made a ton of money


I don't think the street cleaners in B.A. or Mendonça made tons of money, Rickey!

Nevertheless, it comes as a big surprise to us. I am not yet sure the Brasilians are overjoyed that a "Hermano" was elected (or was it selected?) as the Pope, nor the influence he will have on the Brasilian "Catholics". Will He motivate the Brasilians to go back the "Catholic Way"?.

One has to remember that the Brasilians are very secular (The constitution says so) and far advanced than many of the "Spanish American" countries. Or am I wrong on this?
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, March 13, 2013

Hi Ricardo,

Read the following link,please!

http://www.estadao.com.br/noti...8230,0.htm
Benevolent Dictators, and other Royal Fairytales
written by Lloyd Cata, March 14, 2013
http://goo.gl/F1JhD

This period left no question, as I believe Mr. Limpopo alluded to, regarding "The Kingdom of Jordan" and its Palestinian 'subjects'.
(..if only they were so subservient to Israeli edicts, huh?)

The Kingdoms position has not changed one bit, and if used as a 'staging ground' to topple Assad, the king should be wary of Iraqi/Iranian meddling in his house(CIA stronghold). There could still be a surprise development between IRAQ and SYRIA, as Iranian Shiite proxies.

Remember, the devious suicide bomber who killed the 7 CIA people in Afghanistan was a 'trusted' Jordanian working for Al Qaeda.

What I really want to know is, "what" happened/is happening with the Libyan Intelligence Service? Outside of Mossad, L-I-S is probably the best in the region and operating worldwide. If Al Qaeda wants to kill US ambassadors,-perhaps the US will find 'work' for L-I-S(?)...it would be the -first- time they switched sides!
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Err, ...it WOULDN'T be the -first- time they switched sides!
written by Lloyd Cata, March 14, 2013
(exciting times) smilies/smiley.gif
João da Silva
written by Lloyd Cata, March 14, 2013
Sir, "I am never disappointed in the work of the Holy Spirit!"

There is so much in this selection that brings hope to the marginalized of the world.

I would go on about the significance of Il Papa being a 'former' Jesuit, but it would take volumes(research!).

...and if you know anyone who 'won' on this selection, please advise them that they should pray for guidance; after all his name is now Pope Francis(of Assisi), and that in itself speaks volumes...

Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 14, 2013

There is so much in this selection that brings hope to the marginalized of the world.

I would go on about the significance of Il Papa being a 'former' Jesuit, but it would take volumes(research!).


I dunno Doc. I wonder if all the Argentinians and their President are overjoyed at the choice. Posted below is a link. Though you can not read Portuguese, I am sure Rickey or ASP will be able to brief you on it:

http://www.estadao.com.br/noti...8321,0.htm

It would be interesting if the publishers of the Brazzil mag go back and interview Dr.Leonardo Boff again and get his views.smilies/wink.gif

Another "person of interest" to express his views is none other than Capt.Astiz.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
João da Silva
written by Lloyd Cata, March 14, 2013
// ...predicting that the Yanks would prefer one that they can control // - João

? Did I entertain a prediction- or outline the criteria? Seriously, I begin to wonder as to the education of those who see one thing and speak another. It is my only wish that this affliction will also pass with the coming demise of Ignorance.

There is much more I would discuss with you about the 'work' of the Holy Spirit, but it has been a busy week in world events. Surely, you cannot disagree on that point! That you may find some 'illumination', not from my words, but those who came before me; for it is from their 'instruction' that my 'opinion' is formed. If I am in error, it is from their instruction that you may find the Truth of the matter. So, I am pleased with this discourse in Theology, and I wish to thank Dr. Boff, because he has added to my Faith, Understanding, and Truth of this world, ...and the next!

Bravo Rome! Because although my Mother Church may have the affliction of Evil, with the help of the Holy Spirit and God's guidance, she resists the influences of 'others', and moves back to the mission of the Church, which is to do the Work of Christ, and that is a teaching mission
which does have healing properties. Surely my heart is much better with this selection.

//"Spare me the political events and power struggles, as the whole earth is my homeland and all men are my fellow countrymen"// - Khalil Gibran

//"Above all, always be capable of feeling deeply any injustice committed against anyone, anywhere in the world. This is the most beautiful quality in a revolutionary."// - Ernesto "Che" Guevara

So, you see we end where we begin, ...because a man must 'build' his own wheel or else he is chained to the "Wheel of Fortune" designed by 'others'.

I am going to move on from here, and perhaps eventually our esteemed moderator will -return- to the subject of Argentina. Certainly, while all eyes are on Venezuela, there is more subtle agendas for your southern neighbors(Paraguay!). It is telling that you have not been paying closer attention...

(João, I am not oblivious of you -thinking- that my 'prediction' was for someone aligned with US interests. Yet, please consider the present relationship, and you will see that this choice is in the 'interests' of all the Americas, huh?)

I'm sorry not to respond to other comments as I depart this thread, but I am hopeful we will discuss those issues in another, in greater detail. For now I must get back to my Earthly duties... smilies/smiley.gif
Ricardo - Elite Trader Is Not Alone...
written by Lloyd Cata, March 14, 2013
...as their is always the 'urge' to censor disagreement, and that is why the Martyr-of-Reddit, Mr. Aaron Shwartz, has relinquished his life. While I do not endorse his methodology, his struggle to expose the Truth is what I celebrate of his life. That every death should have such purpose would please my God to no end...
Paraguay?
written by Limpopo, March 14, 2013
At the moment, it isn't obvious to the majority, but then again, Doctor Cata is certainly not in the majority. Most insightful people are not.
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written by asp, March 14, 2013
"Above all, always be capable of feeling deeply any injustice committed against anyone, anywhere in the world. This is the most beautiful quality in a revolutionary."// - Ernesto "Che" Guevara

I hope that son of a bitch felt deeply about the injustices he commited
asp
written by João da Silva, March 14, 2013
"Above all, always be capable of feeling deeply any injustice committed against anyone, anywhere in the world. This is the most beautiful quality in a revolutionary."// - Ernesto "Che" Guevara


You don't have to be a "revolutionary" to as this question. Enough to be a hardworking "peasants" like our esteemed good selves.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 14, 2013
Paraguay?

At the moment, it isn't obvious to the majority, but then again, Doctor Cata is certainly not in the majority. Most insightful people are not.


We know about Paraguay and the hidden "desires" of the "Empire". Doc.Cata thinks that we Brasilians are a bunch of fools. Unacceptable to ASP & me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Off topic: When is the best time of the year to visit Limpopo (No tourists, just the ones who appreciate Mother Nature)?

You been to the Victoria Falls?
A Final Note on His Excellency Pope Francis
written by Lloyd Cata, March 14, 2013
As you may well gather, as I have said, there are two Books that are all I need for Truth; The Holy Bible(Old&New Testament) and the Works of Aristotle.

It is from these 2 books that all other thought progresses outward. So I am going to leave all with this as I reach outward; and you know I do so love Fairytales, so if you would kindly read Ken Follets "The Pillars of the Earth", perhaps the lights will come on and you will see the Truth in the 'mirror of history', and then perhaps when we once again discuss the Work of the Holy Spirit we will be on the same page. This book sits to the right of my Bible. I leave to you to discover who sits to the left of Aristotle smilies/wink.gif

"Faith is easy. It is the Truth that is hard, ...but we try!" - Lloyd Catasmilies/wink.gif
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 14, 2013

so if you would kindly read Ken Follets "The Pillars of the Earth", perhaps the lights will come on and you will see the Truth in the 'mirror of history', and then perhaps when we once again discuss the Work of the Holy Spirit we will be on the same page. This book sits to the right of my Bible.


"The Pillars of the Earth " sits in my bookshelf along with many books of other authors. My wife is a big fan of Ken Follet (like myself). This book has even been made into a movie and is available on Netflix. We are awaiting the launching (in paperback) of his recent book "Winter of the World". Follet is a great writer. I am glad you like his work.

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written by Limpopo, March 14, 2013
It's the loudest during May and June, but it's also the wettest. I don't know enough to tell you how to avoid the tourists. A lot of people like the falls when they are not so loud or wet. They may still have helicopter tours if you like photography.
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 15, 2013

It's the loudest during May and June, but it's also the wettest. I don't know enough to tell you how to avoid the tourists. A lot of people like the falls when they are not so loud or wet. They may still have helicopter tours if you like photography.


Thanks for the info, Senhor.Limpopo. Might choose March/April. I'd like to spend at least a month in S.Africa. Photography has always been my hobby, ever since I was a kid.smilies/smiley.gif
Victoria Falls Railroad Bridge
written by Limpopo, March 15, 2013
Be sure to give the bridge a moment or two; very historical and a worthy monument to history. Erderson seems to recall that several airplanes have flown under the bridge, one in particular, many, many years ago, a Cessna 180 flown by a fun-loving young man who, after accomplishing the feat, performed an aileron role while climbing away from the scene of the crime.
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 15, 2013

Erderson seems to recall that several airplanes have flown under the bridge, one in particular, many, many years ago, a Cessna 180 flown by a fun-loving young man who, after accomplishing the feat, performed an aileron role while climbing away from the scene of the crime.


Sorry, the young Pilot of the Cessna 180 didn't commit any crime,but...but...but.. he had his fun and survived. Probably he was a model aircraft designer like Herr. Heinrich Dorfmann and knew the amount of "stress and strain", the particular aircraft in question could take.It is all a matter of "calculated risk".smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Precisely
written by Limpopo, March 16, 2013
Well said, Joao, very well said, indeed! I'm going to have the following words etched into my headstone. 'It was a calculated risk.' But not just yet; I have a few more of those calculated risks to take. smilies/wink.gif Thanks. you made my day.
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written by Limpopo, March 16, 2013
Roll, not role! Good grief!
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 16, 2013

Thanks. you made my day


Happy to know that.smilies/smiley.gif

I was looking at the pictures and the building history of that Bridge,Limpopo. It was a splendid feat, indeed. The view from the air must have been breathtaking and the maneuver exhilarating. Did the Cessna have a camera fitted? smilies/cheesy.gif

Roll, not role!


Even my built in spell checker doesn't differentiate between "Role" and "Roll".smilies/grin.gifsmilies/shocked.gif
Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 17, 2013

Ricardo: Lloyd, you will appreciate this information regarding Pope # 2 - connect the dots and...


Pope # 2 – Francis I

Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio of Argentina became Pope # 2, and the new pope gave an insight into his choice of the name Francis in an audience with journalists - I thought of St. Francis of Assisi.

Franciscans are those people who adhere to the teachings and spiritual disciplines of Saint Francis of Assisi – and the most prominent group is the Order of Friars Minor, commonly called simply the "Franciscans." They seek to follow most directly the manner of life that Saint Francis led.


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New pope explains how he chose the name Francis – March 16, 2013
http://www.mercurynews.com/nat...me-francis

Pope Francis offered intimate insights Saturday into the moments after his election, telling journalists that he was immediately inspired to take the name of St. Francis of Assisi because of his work for peace and the poor -- and was embraced by another cardinal amid applause inside the conclave.

...But he said he was inspired immediately after the election when he thought about wars. St. Francis of Assisi, the pope said, was "the man of the poor. The man of peace. The man who loved and cared for creation -- and in this moment we don't have such a great relationship with creation. The man who gives us this spirit of peace, the poor man."


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The Franciscans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciscan


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The Inquisition and its major players: the “Franciscans and the Dominicans”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Inquisition

...The complaints of the two main preaching orders of the period, the Dominicans and the Franciscans, against the moral corruption of the Church, to some extent echoed those of the heretical movements, but they were doctrinally conventional, and were enlisted by Pope Innocent III in the fight against heresy. As a result, many Franciscans and Dominicans became inquisitors.

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Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, March 17, 2013

As a result, many Franciscans and Dominicans became inquisitors.


Are you echoing the thoughts of Cristina Kirchner, Ricardo?smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
The "Currency Wars" and the coming currency meltdown
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 17, 2013

Keiser Report: Financial Pearl-Harbor – March 16, 2013
http://youtu.be/7IiNGHEDSsg

In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert ask why China fears currency war. They also look at Johnson & Johnson's big loss on Venezuela's currency devaluation and what this means in a currency war world where major devaluations can happen at any moment.

In the second half of the show, Max Keiser talks to Jim Rickards, author of Currency Wars, about which nations are winning the war.

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My Goodness, Sects, Cults, and 'Other' Ideologies Mascurading as Christians!
written by lloyd cata, March 18, 2013
// ....many Franciscans and Dominicans became inquisitors. //


Funny how 'this' selection of a Jesuit brings Hope and a New Spirit to the Church. There ARE those among the 'players' in the lives of men who will challenge this Pope. They should remember what happened after Kruschev challenged the Church, "Where is your army?" Perhaps it is time the Western Imperialists learned the same lesson.

As far a Rome is concerned, the Italian prelates must accept that this Pope not only understands the lingo, but has Roman blood that does not bow to his Argentine heritage. No better man to bring "soap and water" to the Vatican Curia.

Having been made to obey the will of Romes edicts, particularly at a time of inhumanity and injustice, certainly gives Pope Francis a 'special responsibility' to the 'victims' of such acts, no matter where they are in the world. After all, if there is one thing that this Pope, and every Pope, can agree with; "The Truth Is Universal & Everlasting", ...or as I have said, "Only the Truth survives, and can only be seen in the 'mirror-of-history'."

Joao, 'fool' is a very serious charge, and I try to use it sparingly as it points to mental defect, which is sometimes mistaken for ignorance. Your wife's selection, and your enjoyment, of Ken Follett's work only points to your ability to make wise choices. His books do weave a mirror-of-history into the fabric of his narrative. You see, I have read the Bible many times, spent 2 years with Job, 3 years with Corinthians, and cannot put one sentence together from either Book, however it is the 'fabric' of the narrative that compels my soul. It is an obscure trait not readily evident in todays dialogue.
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written by asp, March 19, 2013
"lloyd cata is a fool"

asp 2013
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 19, 2013

Ricardo: Joao, you asked me: "Are you echoing the thoughts of Cristina Kirchner, Ricardo?"

The answer is no.

I don't read about what Cristina Kirchner is doing in Argentina - unless is something that the international media brings up to the world to see it - for example when she took the private pension money to use the money for other purposes.

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Cristina's Cross, ...Will Pope Francis Help Her Carry It?
written by Lloyd Cata, March 19, 2013
// when she took the private pension money to use the money for other purposes. // -Ricardo

Oh, you mean like when the US gov't tried to 'indict' her for accepting money from Hugo? Well, after 'witnessing the most expensive and corrupt election in the world last year(US disenfranchisement campaign, which is still in play - voting rights), perhaps Hugo was sending money for lessons in Democracy; because it appears Venezuela knows how to conduct real elections.

Malvinas Forever!
Back-To-The-Future; "I Only Took It From Thieves, Savages, and Terrorists"
written by Lloyd Cata, March 19, 2013
...and any excuse will do when your 6000 miles away from home, huh?

Once again, Argentina is not alone in trying to redress 600 years of imperialism; they are only on the front lines where the real action is, yet we know that sometimes the one who started the fight gets away while the one who struck back is named the perpetrator. Such is Justice in a world filled with propaganda-driven media. For those in search of Truth, surely they will not be disappointed! Of this I have been assured, ...and you know very well, by Whom!
asp 2013
written by Lloyd Cata, March 19, 2013
//"lloyd cata is a fool" //

...and that may very well be true, but I try to compensate with the 'common sense' provided by others. Yet, sometimes we find ourselves in 'strange lands' with 'strange customs'. Perhaps you sir have found yourself someplace where you ought not to be! Sadly, I -think- it has damaged the your ability to compensate. Stay tuned, ok?

Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, March 19, 2013

for example when she took the private pension money to use the money for other purposes.


Maybe her Guru was none other than our ex-Prez Collor, who is probably providing "Consulting Services" to the Government of Cyprus also. smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 19, 2013

perhaps Hugo was sending money for lessons in Democracy; because it appears Venezuela knows how to conduct real elections.


Y'all missed my post in the first thread.smilies/smiley.gif

Yr comment to ASP:

Perhaps you sir have found yourself someplace where you ought not to be!


Our distinguished fellow blogger knows more about "Plantation Politics" than rest of us the "natives".smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Goldman Sachs is it a Cancer or just a Parasite of the US financial system?
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 20, 2013

Ricardo: Here is the link to my new blog:

Goldman Sachs is it a Cancer or just a Parasite of the US financial system?

http://goldmansachsthepillagepeople.blogspot.com/


And we will continue the discussion about this subject at the Asia Times Online Forum:

Supreme Court Refuses To Hear Goldman Sachs' Appeal To Financial Crisis Lawsuit
http://spengler.atimes.net/vie...67#p450567

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Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 20, 2013

Ricardo: It looks like the Cardinals in the Vatican, did not do a background check before they decided to chose Pope # 2.


Bitter Past: Pope Francis and Argentina's Dirty War – March 19, 2013{/b]
http://youtu.be/WqM3WeRl7Z4

Last week over a billion Catholics around the world watched as the Vatican conclave elected Jorge Mario Bergoglio as the next Pope. But now, as researchers like Professor Michel Chossudovsky of the University of Ottawa are pointing out, Bergoglio's past points to his likely involvement in crimes against humanity. This is the GRTV Feature Interview with your host James Corbett and our special guest Professor Michel Chossudovsky.

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written by asp, March 20, 2013
oh yeah, lloyd, stick up for the blowhard , chavez, like he is such a noble example...you and sean penn and oliver stone...

you cant just look at the ugly reality of chavez without some referance to the american boogy man because you have your world view with your binoculars backwards stuck up american hemmoroids, not able to acknowledge the other stank asses around...how can you stand the smell?

im right where im supposed to be, pointing out things pseudo cultural marxists like you have no idea about what is going down...

you sit thousands of miles away making dogmad rhetorical judgements saturated with your skewed flawed agenda

im more for real help for the poor than your discombobulated notion of what could help the poor

did i link you up to the reality about cuba's health care for poor cubans? that is the problem with pseudo cultural marxists who think these marxist social health systems in countreis like cuba are noble and pristine, when they are really scary...poor people deserve health care that they dont have to be afraid of...and yes,the usa is as bad in its capatalistic way...so save the obvious rhetort...but dont hold up health systems that are frightening as something pristine (yes, i know you personaly didnt make a statement about health systems, but, i see that is the big deal fidel and chavez supporters live for in their arguments portraying these scum as noble)
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, March 20, 2013

But now, as researchers like Professor Michel Chossudovsky of the University of Ottawa are pointing out, Bergoglio's past points to his likely involvement in crimes against humanity.


I would be very interesting to know a little bit more about Prof.Chossudovsky & his "political affiliations". It is strange that he "taught" in Chile during Pinochet regime and in Argentina during the "dirty war". What exactly did he "teach"?smilies/cheesy.gif

Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, March 20, 2013

Sorry, it should read "It would be very interesting ................"

BTW, i have never heard of Prof.Chossudovsky before. May be Dr.Lloyd Cata knows him personally. smilies/wink.gif
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written by asp, March 20, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebw3U_gWPAI

we lost one of the great interpreters of brazilian song, emilio santiago

what class.....rip emilio
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written by Limpopo, March 20, 2013
Is anyone besides me laughing at the expressed wishes of Brasil's president and the president of Nigeria, Goodluck Johnson, to reform the UN security council and make it more democratic? Make the UN security council more democratic? What about the rest of the United Nations? How about changing the entire institution. Does anyone believe the United Nations is anything more than a loathsome collection of thugs, despots, dictators, and theocracies that deprive their citizens of the very rights the UN supposedly honors?
Sorry. It's my rant for the week. I'd think more of any country that made a nominal contribution to the UN than one that appeared to buy the nonsense the institution was selling wholesale.
Indeed, rather than speak about the need to democratize the Security Council and the UN in general, I would appreciate hearing from those countries that by their opinions revealed a true and greater interest in what was happening in the world when it came to the rights such countries purport to champion.
Why do I care so little about the failure of this and that Pope and the Church as an institution when compared to vastly more injustices in the rest of the world?

For instance, where can I read anything opinion-wise and worthy from reform oriented countries concerning the slaughter in Chechnya? The people living there estimate up to 250,000 of their citizenry have been slaughtered, but where is the opinion of those seeking democracy of the security council concerning such a subject? It is even more of a joke when countries champion affiliations with Russia, the country reported to have perpetuated the slaughter.

I hate to post links, but if anyone is interested in what hell looks like, here's an interesting link. And no, it's not your usual African refugee camp but, instead, is a graphic essay in the war in the Caucasus. http://hotterthanapileofcurry....us-region/ It's a little violent, but it's the real world of which the reformist rarely make mention.
The Dirty War was a disaster, but compared to what hidden war was it even comparable?
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 20, 2013

Is anyone besides me laughing at the expressed wishes of Brasil's president and the president of Nigeria, Goodluck Johnson, to reform the UN security council and make it more democratic?


I am and have been laughing for years at this attempt.smilies/cry.gif

I have written in this blog and elsewhere that U.N. itself is a "failed" institution. It started losing its credibility after the "accident" that killed Dag Hammarskjold (IMHO).smilies/cry.gif. Enough to read the names of the Sec. Generals of the U.N. after Dag's demise to get an idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All the recent global "events" indicate that U.N. is about to meet the same fate of the "League of Nations".smilies/sad.gif
Reply to Limpopo
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 20, 2013

Ricardo: I have no use for the UN, World Bank, IMF, and the US Federal Reserve.

It would be nice if all these dinosaurs went out of business.

NATO the criminal organization also should go out of business.



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Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 20, 2013

Ricardo: Joao, on that video it's the first time I came across Prof. Michel Chossudovsky's name.

When I was watching the video the same thought came across my mind: It is strange that he "taught" in Chile during Pinochet regime and in Argentina during the "dirty war".


Bio: Prof. Michel Chossudovsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky


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Joao, you can reach prof. Michel Chossudovsky at:

Global Research - The Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/contact

The Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG) is an independent research and media organization based in Montreal. The CRG is a registered non-profit organization in the province of Quebec, Canada.

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Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 20, 2013

I hate to post links, but if anyone is interested in what hell looks like, here's an interesting link.


It is a very informative link, that is alternative to the MSM . The news about a quarter million people slaughtered doesn't appear in the news media I read or watch. From that link, I somehow landed in another link that talks about the "Argentine Military junta and the Catholic church. One particular stretch of the article drew my attention:

What happened in Argentina under the military government of 1976 to 1983 constitutes one of the worst examples of state repression since the end of the Second World War. But Argentina under Videla cannot be put in the same category as Cambodia under Pol Pot or Uganda under Idi Amin: it is a highly developed country with an almost entirely European population... by setting aside the rule of law in order to be freer to deal with society’s enemies, the generals and admirals who controlled the State infected it with a political, economic and moral gangrene which rotted every organ of government through and through.17


Argentina can not be put into the same category as Cambodia of Pol Pot or Uganda of Idi Amin, because its a "highly developed country with an almost entirely European population"!

The high echelon of the Catholic Church (as well as the members of their Armed Forces) in Argentina were also of "European Stock" and I wonder how they conducted the "dirty war" against fellow Europeans.smilies/shocked.gif
asp
written by João da Silva, March 20, 2013

we lost one of the great interpreters of brazilian song, emilio santiago


Even Chamacoco is mourning and wishing his soul RIP, ASP.smilies/sad.gif
"Plantation Politics"
written by Lloyd Cata, March 21, 2013
Ny dear Mr. da Silva, when you have spent 50 years studying the last 600 years of Plantation Politics, ...well, I must confess to some bias on the part of Truth. When you find the Lie, I'm sure it will be Page One smilies/shocked.gif

// IMHO, the Krauts lost both the wars, but....but....but...right now, they have upper hand in ole Europe. // - João

[Cyprus comment - next thread] Little bity Cyprus(0.2% of Euro economy) "Threatens World Markets!!!"

Huh? How did that happen? If you don't know maybe you should ask someone(?) Actually, I am somewhat of a fan of Celso Ming, your 'native' authority on such matters. Perhaps you should get on his blog and ask such a wise Brazilian personage how it happens that a tiny island with only 0.2% of EU(...just EU) can 'collapse' world markets, make Wall Street shiver, and send the Germans home tearing their hair out, over the mess 'they' created. As you say, "they lost both wars". smilies/cheesy.gif

[[[he-he-ho-ho-ha-ha]]] TINY LITTLE CYPRUS HAS THE BALLS TO TELL THEM "HELL NO!" ...and the EU actually have to go back home and rethink their entire 'bail-out' strategy. WHAT...!!! (...see what even little balls can do when you have some, ...and I know women who would give the imperialists "What-for?", so I'm still waiting to see if Dilma is one such woman) smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cool.gif

Well, one can hope, and you know I like novelas too, as "Xica" was one of my favorites smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
The Master of Waterfalls And Aerobic Bridge Displays
written by Lloyd Cata, March 21, 2013
I was not ignoring your US/Egypt/Israel/Saudi/etc arms supplies, sir. Other than to say you are correct, I thought I had answered the question in the previous thread;

// You see financing chaos is "what we do!". It is an Art and Science of "creating conflict", with which to 'market' your main export; goo.gl/22xFS. My friends the outgoing SecDEf Panetta put it clearly, ~"cutting the US defense budget is economic suicide" // - Lloyd

You really don't want the US to stop producing weapons of mass murder do you? Beware the 'consequences-of-success'! After all, there was a time when you 'imagined' that US economic failure meant disaster for Brazil
smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif I guess you got over that, huh?smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cool.gif
Limpopo
written by Lloyd Cata, March 21, 2013
...and there was some commentary directed your way;
Venezuela's Upcoming Elections, a Test of Brazil's New Pro-democracy Stance

Perhaps you should look there, instead of gazing into waterfalls smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/cool.gif BTW, how high is that bridge? I'm thinking 'base-jumping', ...or would that offend the populace? Don't want to get on the wrong side of the Law. As I have said; "A man must live between the Law and God's Justice, never knowing when one or the other will end this journey we call life". smilies/cool.gifsmilies/smiley.gif
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written by João da Silva, March 21, 2013

Perhaps you should get on his blog and ask such a wise Brazilian personage how it happens that a tiny island with only 0.2% of EU(...just EU) can 'collapse' world markets, make Wall Street shiver, and send the Germans home tearing their hair out, over the mess 'they' created. As you say, "they lost both wars"


May be the good old Krauts didn't want to twist the Bear's tail.smilies/wink.gif

Well, one can hope, and you know I like novelas too, as "Xica" was one of my favorites


I am not too fond of novelas, but glad you are. You must get lot of insight into the "Brasilian way of life".smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Aristotle, ...Once Again!
written by Lloyd Cata, March 21, 2013
Of all the wonders of the known Universe, which my Master did teach me, he also taught me the humility of trying to explore the minds of poets. For he knew not what God had determined for Mankind. Of this I also plead 'illiteracy'. It is the 'exploraton' of the poets which leads to the Discovery of the Way.

[Religion, which has limits and boundaries, is intolerant of Artists. Knowledge is the Art of Discovery" - Lloyd Cata]

There is no place in the Universe, and Beyond, that does not capture my imagination. So if shall explore the minds of the poets, you must forgive me because it is a 'inherited' affliction.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/smiley.gifsmilies/cool.gif
..."exploration"...
written by Lloyd Cata, March 21, 2013
...pardon me, I have some eye strain this AM. It was 'documents week'. Something every engineer dreads. We may love the work, but doing the paperwork is tough, ...but most necessary, for those who must come after to 'evaluate' your work, and hopefully go forward.

There were few things more frustrating than arriving to repair some difficulty and not finding any documentation. Well, like my father used to say, "If you didn't bring it, you better invent it, because failure is not an option". You see, I also come from a long line of engineers smilies/wink.gif
The Clergy Must Wonder....
written by Lloyd Cata, March 21, 2013
..."how is it that this man proposes to live by the Knowledge of two(2) Books?"

Of this I answer; there are 2 hemispheres of your brain(?), they have 'scientifically-proven' different function(?), ...so I will leave to you to 'discover' how two Books can have impact on the Harmony of brain function. That one side is dominant is only due to the 'composition' and 'environment' of the person.

Did I not say, "Shakespeare was a better analyst of Humanity than Freud"?

Well, back to documents; all sorted and categorized. Now to scan them into the 'document server', back up on SIMM card, and prepare for publication(which allows me to recall/transmit to/from most digital devices or formats. Such is Progress! smilies/sad.gifsmilies/tongue.gif
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 21, 2013

BTW, how high is that bridge?


Since you come from a " long line of Engineers", I would imagine your dad or grandpa would have told ya the history of the "Bridge", when you were still in your diapers.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
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written by asp, March 21, 2013
" we all wish we were artists..."
asp 2013

"we all wish we were sex objects..."
asp 2013

"im glad as hell i dont think like lloyd cata"
asp 2013
asp
written by João da Silva, March 21, 2013

"im glad as hell i dont think like lloyd cata"
asp 2013


I like him, though he is quite a bit confused fella. Mixes politics, religion, geography (which he doesn't know much about), Novelas, Celso Ming,Bible,Greek philosophy, Windows 7, "First People",Engineering, etc;etc;etc; (did I miss anything else?)smilies/cheesy.gif

But...but...but..., in spite of his shortcomings, he is a jolly good fellow.smilies/grin.gif

Since his "lineage" consists of Engineers, I urge you to invite him to fix the leaky roof of your luxurious cabana.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Bridges To Nowhere...
written by Lloyd Cata, March 21, 2013
I'm sure it is a wonderful bridge, as there are always wonderful 'monuments' to ingenuity of man. Yet, you understand that it is the waterfall that impresses the conscience, no? Is it so strange that even Brazil 'values' its waterfalls more than their bridges, huh?

However, since you seem enthralled with the majesty of such Afrikaner engineering, surely I must look into the history of such an 'artifact'. You know I will use 'datasets' that can have unexpected 'facts', so be prepared for an analysis that illuminates such a marvel. Well you know that I have personally crossed many a great bridge, and always on the other end did find the destination I sought. Therefore, my opinion of such a 'bridge' must include its past, present, and future functionality.
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Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 21, 2013

However, since you seem enthralled with the majesty of such Afrikaner engineering,


Lloyd, you are very mule headed (or pretend to be?) at times!smilies/shocked.gif

For God's sake, "The Bridge" has nothing to do with the ingenious "Afrikaner Engineering". I think the good ole Limeys had something to do with the design and construction, though ah ain't too sure. Maybe Mr.Limpopo would throw some more light on this issue in his impeccable,prim & proper Queen's English (in spite of he being a Kaufer (?))

BTW, the "Local Populace" at the bottom of "The Bridge" is eagerly waiting for you to do the "Banji Jump" you have promised.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
The Bridge to Nowhere
written by Limpopo, March 21, 2013
After you investigate the history of the bridge, you will see, indeed, that it was once, unfortunately, the bridge to nowhere. In a way, it may still be. You can also leave the Afrikaners out of it. It was designed and built in England, if we are speaking of the same bridge. Three cheers for Cecil!
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written by João da Silva, March 21, 2013

After you investigate the history of the bridge,


HE has no intention of investigating the history of "The Bridge". Too bloody busy watching his "Novelas".smilies/sad.gif
The Queen's English!
written by Limpopo, March 21, 2013
Joao, we must be posting at the same time. Your reference to 'prim and proper' English amuses me. When I was young, one of my best friends, a solicitor in Sydney, gave me a royal chewing and offered that my use of the Queen's English would result in its eventual destruction. At the time, I thought he was only joking until I asked others if, perhaps, what he had said was true. They assured me that my English was definitely rural and colloquial at best. I vowed to learn real English and began listening to myself. I was in my early twenties before I finally mastered the English W. It is still of such a quality that it gives me problems. Thank heavens for dogs.
Joao and Chechnya
written by Limpopo, March 22, 2013
In reference to a past blog about Chechnya. I am having the most difficult time understanding Chechnya. They can't have it both ways. They can't claim to be the oppressed while at the same time attacking other countries such as Dagestan in an effort to enlarge their empire. If it wasn't for the Russians beating the them back again, they would have taken Dagestan. In addition, It's difficult to extend my sympathies to those who believe in slavery based on gender, religious oppression, the stifling of creative freedoms, or wry pronouncements by their president that women are property and that a brother has a responsibility to kill a sister if she trespasses on the family honor, as does a husband to his wife.
By the way, the Muslim-on-Muslim violence in the area surrounding Chechnya is just as shocking as it is in other places of the world. I'm really surprised the world press cares so little about the cultural violence of the area. Chechnya has a long list of valid claims against the Bear, but their public relations department is largely failing them at the moment.
The logistic's train is also much shorter than it was for the Russians in Afghanistan, and something tells me the Bear has a score to settle with the Sunnis.

If anyone has the slightest knowledge of the area, they will understand why the Russians are backing Syria against the Sunnis and lament America's support of the rather bizarre and apparently very counterproductive 'Arab Spring.'
I'm sure the Russians are pulling their hair out over Iran but what else can they do? Even they are sanctioning Iran, which never makes the world or Western press. They, too, are annoyed by Iran's bellicose manner, but in their unofficial war against Saudi Arabia, my enemy's enemy is better than no friend at all. The world press is completely and wrongly ignoring the big picture and Russia's position. I hope the best for all the countries involved in this complex mess, even Chechnya, but the outlook today is rather grim.
Limpopo Speaks, ...And The Truth Shines Through
written by Lloyd Cata, March 22, 2013
...not all the Truth, but after long hours of gazing into waterfalls, the picture emerges, and this is what distinguishes real Artists from the fakers, ...who 'market' propaganda for their own 'interests' smilies/cool.gif

Bravo Limpopo! See, it is not a persons heritage, nationality, religion, race, gender, education, income, or status, that distinguishes them from others. It is their ability, means, and 'inclination' to discover the Truth of things. It is not 'all' the Truth, or a Perfect Truth, but it is what cannot be denied is coming forth from the 'mirror-of-history'. smilies/wink.gif

...and so, I am very pleased that there is Truth in South Africa, whether the messenger be Black or White!smilies/smiley.gif
The Church in Brasil
written by Limpopo, March 22, 2013
Okay, I read the article by Mister Boff several times without completely understanding his point. However, it did lead me to ask a few questions of my own, especially as it concerns the power of the church in Brasilian politics that perhaps only time will answer.

I am intrigued how, in America most precisely, one must profess a deep belief in the value of the personal religious experience to succeed in politics yet, somehow, go out of the way to abandon those same values as leaders. I am not well versed in American politics, but I am interested why American politicians stand in front of the cross and quote the Bible but yet have no problem voting against the Bible in life or openly creating world situations in conflict with their, supposed, core values.

I'm just curious, for at the moment, there seem to be four future presidential candidate possibilities on the conservative side in America that seem to hold tightly to their beliefs and religious core values: two black gentlemen, Allen West and Ben Carson, and two whites gentlemen, Paul and Ryan, each of whom seem very capable of perhaps sweeping the conservative vote. But what chance do they really have in a world that preaches and demands one thing but openly expects another. It seems very confusing, and I wonder if Brasilian politicians follow, for the most part, the American formula. From this point of view, it almost seems immoral and counterproductive. Anymore, do such people as the aforementioned gentlemen, even have the possibility of being elected? It seems currently that true religiosity is a career sinker when it comes to national politics. Is religion mostly for looks in Brasil, too?
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 22, 2013

Joao, we must be posting at the same time


Right. We both must have punched the "send" button at the same time. Your solicitor and your other friends were wrong in persuading you not to speak like Colin Firth.smilies/sad.gif

I don't know about your spoken English, but....but....but.... you write like a TOFF.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Your essay on Chechnya is great. Informative and thought provoking.The comment by Dr.L.C. on it gives me an impression that he is not too familiar about that part of the world. Probably looking at the World Map to find out where exactly in the African continent Chechnya is located.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Finally Some Relief From Both Illiteracy And Ignorance...
written by Lloyd Cata, March 22, 2013
// Probably looking at the World Map to find out where exactly in the African continent Chechnya is located. // - João da Silva

Since I am not -as- familiar with the environs of Grozny, I will pay a visit to the Clinton Library, that I may find the propaganda value of US/Russian relations. smilies/cheesy.gif

Surely, I have 'tried' to be informative, and if I find that illiteracy is as 'popular' in Brazil as ignorance, ...well, is there any doubt that I will let you know? smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Please continue Mr. Limpopo, since it is agreed that you have some measure of relief for illiteracy and ignorance. smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cool.gif
Help me understand America
written by Limpopo, March 22, 2013
Didn't the American president champion the cause of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, as did members of his cabinet? Didn't he go to Egypt and openly praise the organization? Wasn't it described as an important cultural element of and for the population? If I remember right, the presidential praise was never-ending. Didn't the American president jump to the forefront with incredible military gifts of tanks and fighter bombers to help Egypt defend itself from a non-existent enemy? Isn't America making huge financial sacrifices to give hundreds of millions of dollars to a country that not so long ago kidnapped the son of its transportation secretary, Ray LaHood, and held him hostage, while it cuts aid to its own disadvantaged and elderly?

Didn't the American president swagger to the podium in an attempt to ensure that the American population and the world would forever associate him with the Arab Spring?

Now I ask one question. Is this same president aware that in Egypt the population is rioting and protesting and taking on the state police to fight against the oppression the American-backed Muslim Brotherhood has brought to Egypt? Are the papers wrong? Are the televised new's reports wrong? Are the riots and shootings and beatings only a harmless soccer game gone wrong? Can the American president tell the world that the bonfires engulfing his much-beloved Muslim Brotherhood offices are actually open-air fires for after-the-victory party treats for some peaceful celebration?

Why is he so pleased with the Muslim Brotherhood as Egypt's own citizens are rioting against them? I have so many questions. Maybe we do need someone new on the Security Council, but I hope it is a country with a creative approach to the world's problems instead of what the world has long been experiencing. I know in my heart that Brasil would be the spearhead of change! I wish the American president the very best, but the news reports I'm seeing are very confusing and troubling.



Understanding America - Correlation-vs-Causation (1)
written by Lloyd Cata, March 23, 2013
// Didn't the American president champion the cause of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, as did members of his cabinet? // - Limpopo

No. Simple -misunderstanding- which Benghazi corrected! smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/angry.gif

// Didn't he go to Egypt and openly praise the organization? // - Limpopo

Faint praise...(their candidate lost, period! smilies/sad.gif )

// Wasn't it described as an important cultural element of and for the population? // - Limpopo

The arrival of Pharaoh is always a momentous occasion. smilies/wink.gif

// Didn't the American president jump to the forefront with incredible military gifts of tanks and fighter bombers to help Egypt defend itself from a non-existent enemy? // - Limpopo

...excuse me, where you not paying attention, or a bit of navel-gazing? smilies/wink.gif
[...earlier in this same thread] Did you not see this 'answer'(?);
You see financing chaos is "what we do!". It is an Art and Science of "creating conflict", with which to 'market' your main export; goo.gl/22xFS smilies/angry.gif. My friends the outgoing SecDEf Panetta put it clearly, ~"cutting the US defense budget is economic suicide" - Lloyd

// Isn't America making huge financial sacrifices to give hundreds of millions of dollars to a country that not so long ago kidnapped the son of its transportation secretary, Ray LaHood, and held him hostage, while it cuts aid to its own disadvantaged and elderly? // - Limpopo

Remember what I said about 'choices'; you only get one! The fact that Mr. Obama made the right choice at the right time is to his credit, ...given the fact that 'any' other choice might have resulted in him dealing with "the doctor" instead of Mr. Morsi. smilies/shocked.gif

// Didn't the American president swagger to the podium in an attempt to ensure that the American population and the world would forever associate him with the Arab Spring? // - Limpopo

...and I also heard they found a likeness of him carved into the Pyramids. smilies/shocked.gif Truly he one of the ancients smilies/wink.gif There are those who profess Mr. Obama was groomed from birth, indeed before birth, to rule the world, smilies/cheesy.gif ...and if you looked deeply into his extra-curricular activities at Harvard we could clear this up[T-r-u-m-p]? But looking at Mr. Obama's meteoric rise to power, and given that 'that' rise was accomplished through the most incredible 'Luck' a politician can have, without being anointed. Look at the 'string' of incredibly flawed opponents he has faced in his political career smilies/sad.gif Even his reelection opponent, a capable man, was more his own enemy than Obama's 'victim', huh? Yet, he does have a decent jump shot, and a great Al Green impersonation, so you must forgive "the Esteemed Harvard-educated Constitutional Scholar" for a little "swagger". He IS the 21st Century version of Pharaoh, who has the Power, if not yet the Right, to kill anyone on the planet who "he" thinks is a threat to American/Western "interests". smilies/angry.gifsmilies/sad.gifsmilies/angry.gif Yet, you must forgive him his demeanor, as it comes with his 'hood-creds' smilies/cool.gif, cause you know he didn't walk that way at Harvard, huh? smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

// Is this same president aware that in Egypt the population is rioting and protesting and taking on the state police to fight against the oppression the American-backed Muslim Brotherhood has brought to Egypt? // - Limpopo

Same question! Same answer; smilies/sad.gif http://goo.gl/5fOVD
You see financing chaos is "what we do!". It is an Art and Science of "creating conflict", ...or do you find that concept too outlandish to grasp that it is American Foreign Policy to 'destabilize' what they cannot control smilies/angry.gif [[[Malaysia/Suharto/US anti-Communist Agenda]]] Makes -you- your own worst enemy. I hear Musharraf is making a comeback smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif, ...and you may indeed laugh, but there are 'millions' in Pakistan who are not laughing! smilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gif, because this man should be before the I.C.C., and everyone knows this, but he is the Paki-Leader that the West can trust, so he gets a pass, eh? Not to worry - Bush & Blair have the same pass, ok? smilies/cool.gif
Understanding America - Correlation-vs-Causation (2)
written by Lloyd Cata, March 23, 2013
// Are the papers wrong? Are the televised new's reports wrong? // - Limpopo

I will not dignify a response to that question! smilies/shocked.gif I'm sure our colleague, Mr. Asp, would interject at this stage with the appropriate adjectives... smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif Let me just say, "Your looking at the 'remains' of Iraq; goo.gl/uEXtk", ...are you not impressed with the MSM, that has no shame for its role in this travesty of LIES & LIARS(?)

// Why is he so pleased with the Muslim Brotherhood as Egypt's own citizens are rioting against them? // - Limpopo

Poor Limpopo smilies/sad.gif Time to get out of the waterfalls, and gazing skyward for the latest aerial feats of fantasy smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif Among all the species on planet Earth, only Humans have the ability to play a "double-game", ...and that is also the 'answer' for you question of Chechnya. I have no other smilies/sad.gif [...but for relief you might read "The Merchant of Venice" to understand the conditions of such behavior.] smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Further inquiries on "Understanding America" should be preceded by understanding Correlation-vs-Causation; http://goo.gl/HFdBL smilies/smiley.gif I assure you that unless you have prior -education- in Greek Philosophy it will make your head hurt! smilies/cry.gifsmilies/shocked.gif ...b-b-but right now I am "Trying To Understand Brazil", eh? smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/sad.gif
João da Silva
written by Lloyd Cata, March 23, 2013
I hope your continuing education is coming along; now that we understand that the significance of 'bridges' is where they take you, from Point A to Point B. Other than that they are simply 'monuments' of the moment. smilies/smiley.gif

If you have been following smilies/tongue.gif, perhaps you should ask the wife if she has this author on the shelf; http://goo.gl/ZFLha - David Hume. Methinks he has a translation of the Greek Dialect that can overcome your indifference to Logic! smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cool.gif

Oh, ...and I am 'trying' to understand the Brazilian Constitution, so if you could kindly point to a 'credible reference'(...even in Portuguese I would be in your debt. In advance, I urge you to acquaint yourself with these documents( http://goo.gl/VxBue ) as 'proof' that the present US government is a sham and a fraud. The only reason it is allowed to continue is through illiteracy and ignorance, so we see why proper education for all is neither desired nor welcome. "Ignorance IS Popular!", ...and also 'profitable' for those who promulgate propaganda. smilies/shocked.gifsmilies/sad.gif

I am also looking at the 'demographics' of those 100,000 students Brazil is sending abroad for further 'studies'; minorities and females. Of course you have the answer at your fingertips, but easier to ask your wife, huh? Apparently she has the education in your family smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cool.gif
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 23, 2013

I hope your continuing education is coming along;


Sure, it is. Slowly but...but...but.. steadily.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Re the constitution: Please access the link below and click on the button "BAIXAR". You can download it free of cost. If you have trouble in understanding Portuguese, your grandson will surely help you.

http://www.baixaki.com.br/andr...gratis.htm

Another link:Its a pdf file.

http://www.senado.gov.br/legis...ON1988.pdf

I dont think my wife has Hume´s books & later on I 'll check about the 100,000 students. I was among some "educators" last night and they fed me with too much wine to "re-educate" me. smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

Cheers to ya & Mr.Limpopo.
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written by asp, March 23, 2013
well, decent questions ,popo , and, mostly decent answers, cata, sometimes , you actualy made sence , for a change...some of your lincs suck

i could go into a huge discourse on the usa and how it was thrust into a role after world war 2 that it wasnt really prepared to handle, but, to be sure, the lessons of how frightening the reality of how dirty the world really was,drove many bad desicians as well as good ones...there have always been bad people waiting in the wings to abuse power...there are always money interests and greed fanning some peoples ambitions, that influence some bad desicions...as any where in the world...if the usa finances chaos, there is a fat line of others also...all the arab spring bulls**t, was a lot hype from the papers...what the f**k is someone in the usa position suposed to do? just totaly stay out? they cant interfere now because the brotherhood was elected, which didnt stop the usa in the cold war , but, in egypt, right now, it would be suicide to take a position inside egypt

its all f**king politics, everybody bulls**ts.....or does anyone think hugo chavez didnt bulls**t?
There's nobody like Lloyd Cata
written by Limpopo, March 23, 2013
Well, Doctor Cata, I for one enjoy your commentary and analysis. I am also quickly becoming your most junior disciple.smilies/smiley.gif I believe your 'chaos for profit' theory makes a great deal of sense, at least as it relates to the West. I do not know enough about Eastern economic theory to understand it with any degree of competency.

I am also intrigued by what you feel it takes to be a modern politician. I hope not all is lost. Although I am interested in the world, I am becoming interested in American politics to some degree and am following several favorites closely as they begin their posturing for the next presidential election.
Two of my favorites are Allen West of Florida and Benjamin Carson, but if I understand your position correctly, both men will probably fail as candidates. Both men have the highest moral standards, are patriots, well-educated, without agenda race-wise, are free of political scandal, and possess a great deal of foresight.

My personal history has led me to become something of a doubter when it comes to a 'national promise.' Therefore, I desire action and results, not promises, and as a result largely swing toward the conservative side, such as with West and Carson. Carson is up and coming, West is a proven leader, but again, under your 'chaos for profit,' it is unlikely that either man will be elected.
What a shame, but I think you point is valid; promises are one thing, but whoever has the larger potential for chaos should be the winner.
I did not mean to reference American politics, but I thought it might be useful for comparison. Thank you.
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 23, 2013

I am also looking at the 'demographics' of those 100,000 students Brazil is sending abroad for further 'studies'; minorities and females.


According to my wife, there is no quota system, but based on merit. If they get accepted by an university overseas, they get the "scholarship".

MEC is also doing another great thing. They also encourage the Federal Universities to accept foreign students to study here and grant Scholarship. I was shocked to know that there are students from Egypt and other "Islamic" countries in the Federal universities here.smilies/shocked.gif None from Saudi Arabia, though. We don't want the Mohammedans to introduce their Sunni, Shiite, Sufi politics in this country, do we? The best country to practice their "religious freedom" is your beloved native land (especially your "bairro" of Bronx). smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
asp
written by João da Silva, March 23, 2013

i could go into a huge discourse on the usa and how it was thrust into a role after world war 2 that it wasnt really prepared to handle,


Please feel free to go into "a huge discourse".smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif

I recall it was Lloyd who posted in this forum, the farewell speech of Ike warning about the danger of the "Military Industrial Complex" taking control of the world. Lloyd has been quite consistent in his "Geopolitical" views and we do appreciate his "centrist" position.
No, No, No...Limpopo!
written by lloyd cata, March 24, 2013
I neither desire nor encourage disciples! I am here to 'learn' also.smilies/smiley.gif ...and between our esteemed moderator smilies/cheesy.gif giving me the run-down and the formidable Asp giving me the low-down, I get a fair idea of the climate smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cool.gif

Life is a constant learning process. I know people who have been employed many years at the same job. They were good employees, and did their jobs well, but when the boss says, "good-bye" their life is destroyed! Of course, if you ask them what they 'learned' in all those years, what you find out is they only learned how to please the boss, ...instead of preparing for a life 'without' the boss smilies/wink.gifsmilies/shocked.gif

Besides, I am not the one to lead. When my Master arrives many leaders and followers will switch placessmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 24, 2013

Ricardo: Lloyd, you will enjoy reading about this news:

On Saturday, March 23, 2013 Pope # 2 went to visit Pope # 1.

Papa Francisco viaja a Castel Gandolfo para se reunir com Bento 16

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/m...o-16.shtml

O papa Francisco visitou neste sábado o seu antecessor no cargo, o agora papa emérito Bento 16, em Castel Gandolfo, residência apóstolica a 30 quilômetros ao sul de Roma.

O local foi escolhido por Bento 16 para se hospedar desde que deixou o pontificado. Os dois almoçariam juntos.

Trata-se de um evento inédito na história da Igreja Católica, já que é a primeira vez que um papa emérito e outro em plenos poderes se reúnem.

Francisco embarcou às 8h03 (de Brasília) em um helicóptero no Vaticano e aterrissou no heliporto da residência pontifícia às 12h15 locais (8h15 de Brasília), informou o Vaticano.

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Reply to Lloyd Cata
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 24, 2013

Ricardo: Lloyd, here is a video of the event:

On Saturday, March 23, 2013 Pope # 2 went to visit Pope # 1.

Pope Francis visit Benedict XVI at Castel Gandolfo{/b]
http://youtu.be/ufwyfr1otHk

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written by asp, March 24, 2013
i actualy like you, cata, ....besides the fact you dish up softballs i can hit out of the park , you have a lot i can respect...
asp
written by João da Silva, March 24, 2013

you have a lot i can respect...


Is it just a truce or an unconditional surrender?smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gif
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written by asp, March 24, 2013
neither....i like softball pitches
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written by asp, March 24, 2013
i keep telling people, these marxist aproaches dont care about racism

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/24/opinion/sunday/for-blacks-in-cuba-the-revolution-hasnt-begun.html?hp&_r=0
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written by asp, March 24, 2013
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 24, 2013

Re:The Church In Brasil. That was a nice essay about America & the Church!

. It seems very confusing, and I wonder if Brasilian politicians follow, for the most part, the American formula. From this point of view, it almost seems immoral and counterproductive.


I don't think the Brasilian politicians follow the American formula!! They have their own formula!!!!

I have been doing some research on the influence of "The Church" in Brasil, which is supposed to have the largest catholic population in the world. Some facts:

1)In 2000 around 74% of the Brasilian population was catholic, but....but...but... the percentage dropped down to 65% in 2010.

2) In 2012, only 5% of the population claimed that they practiced the faith.

3) During the past decade or so, the influence of the "Pentecostal evangelists" has increased considerably over the population as well as in Politics.

The reason for the decline of the catholic population in Brasil is the same as in other developing and developed countries. "The Church"'s clock stopped.smilies/sad.gif

I don't think the situation is different in Argentina and other LatAm countries. So the new headman of the Church has got a challenging assignment and that is to bring back the faithfuls who abandoned it. He has to review the current marketing strategy and alter it according to the "modern times".smilies/cry.gif
Get Back To All...
written by lloyd cata, March 24, 2013
Sorry I am 'out-of-office' smilies/cool.gif On my tablet, so still learning(limitations) #Nook (B&N). A present! I used to give my children technology when they were babies and now they give me technology smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/cool.gif

Still most comfortable with kybrd(...all thumbs) smilies/sad.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif




Mr. Asp, the Hatian Revolution was more than 100 years ago, and you can ask any Venezuelan about the Truth of the matter! The only question 'today' is whether the rest of the world will ' choose' smilies/wink.gif
Doctor Cata and Brasil's demographics.
written by Limpopo, March 24, 2013
I take it, Doctor Cata, that things are changing in Brasil, too, and that as in America, the Bible and the cross are merely religious keys to an ever-increasing secular world.

I also appreciate your comments on how the new Pope needs a new marketing strategy. Humorous but also very contemporary and probably very true. Your comment about the clock stopping for the church is something I would like to borrow in my discussions with others. However, I will gladly give you credit because it's true.

I want to add that I often have to read your comments several times before I believe I understand everything you write. While your words are easy to understand, they are often, too, well chosen.
Lloyd Cata
written by João da Silva, March 24, 2013

I know people who have been employed many years at the same job. They were good employees, and did their jobs well, but when the boss says, "good-bye" their life is destroyed! Of course, if you ask them what they 'learned' in all those years, what you find out is they only learned how to please the boss, ...instead of preparing for a life 'without' the boss


Your comment might sound cruel to your subordinates & peers, but it is true. During the mandate of FHC, many state owned enterprises and banks were "privatized" here. Hundreds of thousands of employees were not prepared for "a life without the boss".smilies/sad.gif

By now you must have mastered the Nook.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Only if you are interested
written by Limpopo, March 24, 2013
This is very quick but fascinating, but only if you love African history. Enter Gbadolite, Congo, into your search engine. When the map comes up, select satellite.
Gbadolite is a small community in the middle of nowhere. The only thing that warranted putting it on the map was an absolutely spectacular palace for which there are no adequate superlatives in the English language with which to describe it. It is to the east of the city. For more information concerning the palace, you can Google Mobutu's palace, Gbadolite.

If that alone doesn't amaze you, look to the southwest of Gbadolite at the runway built exclusively for Mobutu so that his chartered 747s and the Concord could pick him up when he wanted to go shopping or whatever.

Of course, no one will believe that the Concorde ever landed at a hidden-away jungle airstrip so that a dictator could go shopping or attend a frivolous UN function.

Africa is full of the most unlikely and unbelievable wonders. How incredible that a man who some believe stole 12 billion dollars from his country men died such a ridiculous death, but such is Africa.

Gbadolite goes hand-in-hand with Doctor Cata's theory of profit in Chaos, a theory of which I believe makes more and more sense.

What is happening to the palace and airport, which by the way possessed a magnificent terminal. After the usual obligatory revolution or insurgency, it is returning to the jungle.
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 25, 2013

This is very quick but fascinating, but only if you love African history. Enter Gbadolite, Congo, into your search engine. When the map comes up, select satellite.


I was interested and did exactly as per your instructions! Fascinating indeed.Did some further reading on Mobuto. I wonder what happened to all the money he stashed away in overseas banks.

Have you ever watched the movie "The Wild Geese"?smilies/cry.gif
Wild Geese!
written by Limpopo, March 25, 2013
That was a very popular movie within my circle of friends. We spent a great deal of time pointing out the differences between Hollywood and real life. The story of Executive Outcomes is far more thrilling, however. Indeed, their experiences in Sierra Leone eventually led me to examine the UN closely and come to the realization that the UN was a country club, dispassionate concerning suffering and disinterested in the truth.
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 25, 2013

Executive Outcomes!!

Eeben Barlow is still alive and even got his own blog.smilies/shocked.gif

http://eebenbarlowsmilitaryand...ot.com.br/

He sounds like Hardy Kruger. smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Watch these videos!!!!!!
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 26, 2013

Ricardo: Enjoy these videos:


March 24, 2013

European Bank Runs Could Spread Like Wildfire Due to Cyprus Banks - Laurence Kotlikoff

http://youtu.be/DYsLixDNIKI

Economics Professor Laurence Kotlikoff says banking problems in Cyprus "could spread like wildfire throughout Southern Europe and Northern Europe and into the U.S. because we have a banking system that's built to fail." Dr. Kotlikoff also says, "It's going to happen in the form of a crash in the bond market. Interest rates are going to skyrocket, and we're probably going to have high inflation because the government is printing money out the wazoo." Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with Economics Professor Laurence Kotlikoff of Boston University.


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What a bunch of thieves – IMF, ECB ….

'Cyprus deal pushes EU closer to French, Bolshevik revolutions' – March 25, 2013

http://youtu.be/DjN86xgzlUg

Depositors in the Bank of Cyprus, the biggest bank on the island, will reportedly lose from 30 to 40 per cent on their holdings above 100,000 euro as result of a bailout agreement which Cyprus and the troika of international backers signed on Monday.

John Laughland, the director of studies at the Institute of democracy and cooperation in Paris, believes that the developments in Cyprus share their roots with a number of historic revolutions.


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Gerald Celente - Trends In The News - "Wrong Again Ben!" - (3/21/13)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...3g&index=3

"Surprise... Ben Bernanke is wrong again! EU closer to banking union & Obama praises an "eternal alliance" with US and Israel."


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On this video Obama praises an "eternal alliance" with US and Israel."

I agree with Gerald Celente's opinion on this matter.

Supporting Israel in this blind fashion as the United States has been doing for decades – it goes completely against the long and short-term self-interest of the United States in the Middle East and around the world.

For some unjustifiable reason Israel demands that the United States keeps giving blind support to Israel even though most of this support goes against the short and long term self-interest of the United States and the American people.

There are many naïve people around the world who think that a country can be a friend of another country, when in reality, in the words of Charles de Gaulle, "in international relations, a nation has no friends, only interests."

If Israel still want a loyal friend, a protector and fun, then they should get a dog.

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Ricardo and Israel
written by Limpopo, March 26, 2013
Now really, Ricardo. Your hatred of Jews is so rampant as to border on the rabid. Seriously, Israel DEMANDS blind economic support? When will you present an unbiased breakdown of this blind economic aid that Israel is supposedly demanding from America? And if you ever do offer an unbiased assessment, will you please offer it in the historical context, such as compared to aid offered other countries at the same time, and will you please differentiate between grants and loans that were required to be paid back? And would you also make note of the fact that America asked Israel to become a strategic military partner from 1973 on and just what exactly that entails from America's point of view?

I'm not asking you to justify Israeli politics; I'm just asking you to define what you mean when you make such a statement that Israel demands blind support. Israel is a tiny country with meager resources. Actually, I'm surprised that your country asked Israel to become a STRATEGIC MILITARY PARTNER instead of the much larger Egypt, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, etc. etc. etc. And while you are at it, perhaps you could research an occasion when perhaps Israel saved America's butt at an American request?
I think you probably have a very limited knowledge of the value of the technology received from this alliance. Just as one tiny example, take America's much vaunted drone program. Many take credit for it, but the truth is that the initial use of drones should be credited to Israel. This is just one tiny example of what your country has received in exchange from the Jews, and the return doesn't stop at just technology. Israel's tactical experience and intelligence must surely be worth something, as is the land it makes available to store American weapons and equipment for an American STRATEGIC emergency.

I could probably learn a lot from you, Ricardo, concerning Israel, but you need years of study before we debate the issues fairly and make it mutually beneficial.
I surrender
written by Limpopo, March 26, 2013
Sorry, Ricardo. I almost fell into a trap that you set for anybody silly enough to fall into.
There will be no debate. You automatically win.smilies/wink.gif I have no desire to get myself involved in that endless, boring debate concerning whether or not the Jews are the devil's children and are ruining America. From listening to other's debate this topic, I believe I understand exactly where such a discussion would lead. It's pointless and hardly instructive. Whatever you think is fine with me. Have a happy day.
Reply to Limpopo
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 26, 2013

You wrote: “Actually, I'm surprised that your country asked Israel to become a STRATEGIC MILITARY PARTNER...

I think you probably have a very limited knowledge of the value of the technology received from this alliance. Just as one tiny example, take America's much vaunted drone program. Many take credit for it, but the truth is that the initial use of drones should be credited to Israel.”


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March 26, 2013

Ricardo:
First, Brazil does not need any technology from Israel.

You may not know, but Brazil has a company called Embraer, if that company can build jetliners, I guess they are capable of building drones.

By the way, even the Iranians can jam the drone technology and get control of these weapons.

Second, Brazil does not need Israel for anything – I want to remind you that Brazil has the largest population of Germans outside Germany – and the Germans are considered the smartest people on earth. A large number of Germans immigrated to Brazil after WW I, and WW II.

Americans are very proud of landing a man in the moon – but the entire American space program was developed by Von Braun a German rocket scientist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun


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Brazzil - Monday, 01 August 2011

The Time Is Now for Brazil to Build a Strong Military!
Written by Ricardo C. Amaral

http://www.brazzil.com/compone...tists.html

Conclusion:

The "Kill Switches" change everything, and only fools for now on would buy any military armament from the usual suspects.

Why would anyone even consider buying military armament that could contain "kill switches" and "back doors," which may disable, betray or blow up the devices in which they are installed? Chips can easily contain 2 billion transistors, leaving plenty of scope to design a few that operate secretly.

The Brazilian government has a great opportunity right now to build and fund its own defense and aerospace industry in Brazil, and leapfrog these industries into the future.

It's becoming obvious that Brazil should not buy any armament from foreigners; Brazil needs to build its own defense and aerospace industries, and today Brazil can accomplish that goal very easily.
The Brazilian government should award a major long-term multibillion dollar contract to Embraer's defense and aerospace subsidiary for them to develop and build a new line of fighter jets in Brazil, and drones for military use, as well as to catapult the Brazilian space program into the future.

The Brazilian government on its effort to building up large-scale defense companies in Brazil also should create joint ventures with companies such as Rheinmetall AG from Germany, or Alenia Aermacchi from Italy, and other defense industry contractors from Sweden, Switzerland, France, Iran and Japan.


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The U.S. Military Industrial Complex
http://thefinalcollapseoftheus...mplex.html

...The US taxpayer supplies Israel with foreign aid – mostly military armaments. In turn that creates more demand from the US Military Industrial Complex to supply armaments to countries such as Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, and so on…

...It's a waste of time to talk about peace on the Middle East, since there are too many American businesses that are interested that the Middle East mess keep going on forever.


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http://israelzionismjewishlobb...gspot.com/

September 17, 2012

SouthAmerica: The United States is probably the first superpower that let itself to be completely manipulated and influenced to the highest degree by an immaterial and irrelevant little country such as Israel.

In the 21st century makes even less sense for the United States to associate itself to this little country that is completely irrelevant (Israel) to the new world order – the world of the “BRICS.”

The real economic and financial action in the next 20 years will be generated in the world of the “BRICS” - and Israel means nothing to the world of China, India, Russia and Brazil. In the new world order Israel is nothing more than a little country (Israel is smaller than the state of New Jersey in the old USA) with a small economy with a GDP of $238.2 billion (2011 est.) compared with the state of New Jersey GDP of $ 497 billion for 2010, and a small population (about 7 million people, also a smaller population than the state of New Jersey with 9 million people)

When compared with other countries around the world such as Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa – the country of Israel is completely irrelevant.

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Reply to Limpopo
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 26, 2013

Israel, the Zionists, the “Jewish Lobby” and Iran
http://israelzionismjewishlobb...gspot.com/

There are many things that are happening that gives us a clear signal that the relationship between US/Israel is reaching the end of the line.

We have reached a major turning point in global history and the world is changing as never seen before and there is nothing the Jewish Lobby can do about to stop the events that are already underway.

The world is changing faster than you think, and there is nothing you can do about it on your efforts to try to keep things as they were in the past.

Most countries around the world realized that there are more important things around the world related to the future such as India and China with almost 2.5 billion people than little Israel with 7 million people.

The reality is: Israel with 7 million people is immaterial and irrelevant in a global population of 7 and very soon 8 billion people.

The world don't revolve around Israel and its never ending troubles.

As the economic and financial power moves from Europe and the United States to the Asian countries – All the leverage that Israel has had in the last 60 years becomes completely irrelevant, and obsolete on this new world of the 21st century.

That's a fact!!!!!!!!

It's crazy for the United States to continue to give Israel all kinds of support as the United States has been giving in the last 60 years.

The world has changed in drastic ways, and even the United States is becoming a former superpower faster than most people has realized.

Right now the United States is going through the late stages of a life cycle of a superpower - all superpowers have the same life cycle: birth, maturation, old age and disintegration.

The United States and Europe have reached the old age stage, and now they are moving to the disintegration stage – and we can see signs of that all over the place.


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August 26, 2012

SouthAmerica: Regarding the US government “Gravy Train” to Israel (that money pit) it is being delivered year after in the billions of US dollars – money that is very badly needed in the United States to help the states in the old USA that are all going broke one after another.


July 30, 2007

SouthAmerica: $ 30 billion dollars in military aid – for a country smaller than New Jersey – and about $ 8 billion dollars of this aid it is in cash

For a country with a GDP of around $ 140 billion dollars – why make peace in the area and risk losing the free ride.

Israel government annual budget is around $50 billion dollars including defense spending of around $ 10.5 billion dollars.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that a large part of the defense spending from the Israeli government annual budget goes to pay salary for the soldiers, pensions, health care, maintenance of arsenal including the nuclear arms and so on….

After all these normal expenses related to defense spending there is not much money left to increase the Israeli destruction capabilities. That is where the US military aid comes handy – and most of the bombs, guided missiles, and god knows what else that have been killing thousands of people in the Gaza strip, in Lebanon and so on – the carnage and death toll in that area comes with the compliments of the United States government – and all these deadly weapons have the label “Made in USA”.

Israel have been receiving military aid from the United States since 1973 – adjusted for inflation and in terms of current dollars probably the United States have invested over $200 billion dollars in military aid to Israel during the period 1973 – 2007.

The American investments in military aid to Israel during all these years are paying great dividends just look around in that area of the world – Lebanon, Gaza Strip, Iraq and so on…

And we usually use “Enron” as an example of what looks like a bad investment.

What would have happened if instead of giving all this military aid to Israel during all these years if the money had been invested instead in education, and a Marshall plan to help lift all boats in that area of the world?

I don’t blame the Israelis from wanting to keep the "gravy train" coming to Israel on a regular basis.

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Thanks, Ricardo!
written by Limpopo, March 26, 2013
I don't have time to go through most of your blog, and besides, I can't stop laughing from what I've already read. Apparently you don't pay much attention to what appears in Brazzil? Yes, I'm sure Embraer can build a drone. Brazzil had a recent story about it. It's being built in cooperation with the Israelis. I know, I know. No one could be so dumb as to write what you just did on Brazzil.smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Yes, and thank you for pointing out that Brasil has the second highest German population outside of Germany. That's impressive. During WWII, I had relatives visit Berlin. Of course, they were flying bombers built by stupid colonials, but their visit had an impact on your vaunted NAZIS. I think they bombed the crap out of Berlin and your vaunted NAZIS.

By the way, your super race lost both world wars against some very stupid colonials.

Perhaps the best Germans moved to countries other than Brasil? I think America got an idiot German or two. One of the names was Albert Einstein. Ever heard of him? I'm sure his impact on the world, however, was hardly a great as one of your SS escapees.smilies/cheesy.gif

The Germans are responsible for America's "entire space program?" Ricardo, that was a silly thing to say and far from the truth. You need to read up on the American space program. You've probably never heard of Robert Goddard, the pioneer of the liquid fuel rocket. Golly, your vaunted NAZIS knew him well. They utilized much of his pioneering information from many of his pioneer rocket projects.

I surrender, Ricardo! You have defeated me with your logic and facts. The fact that Israel exists at all is proof that there is no Hebrew God.

By the way. One of the finest German/Americans duringthe war was HERMAN GOERING"S nephew. Do you know what he was famous for? Bombing the crap out of your vaunted NAZIs from a B-17 of the eigth American Air Force. Too much history for you?

I think you owe the wonderful German/Brasilain population something of an apology.smilies/smiley.gif Me, too. My body runs thick with German blood.
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 26, 2013

One of the finest German/Americans duringthe war was HERMAN GOERING"S nephew.


There are some news articles that say Capt.Werner Goering was not the nephew of Herman Goering. He was born and raised in Salt Lake City and the son of German immigrant parents. His father had the last name of Goering and to jack of his self status among the ex-pat German community in Utah, he was supposed to have claimed he was Herman's brother.smilies/sad.gif

Werner Goering is still alive and probably listed in the phone book in Salt Lake City or elsewhere. May be we should call him and check.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 26, 2013

I think you owe the wonderful German/Brasilain population something of an apology


Finally someone acknowledged that Kraut Brasilians are wonderful people.smilies/wink.gif So are the Nippo-Brasilians, Turco-Brasilians, Judeu-Brasilians, etc;smilies/cheesy.gif

It doesn't matter what religion you were baptized, what color you are or what your nationality is. But....but...but... what you are is that counts the most.

Hope my comments meet with total approval of Dr.L.C. and our distinguished fellow blogger ASP. smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Reply to Limpopo
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 26, 2013

Limpopo, it's obvious to me that you belong to the “Jewish Lobby” and you are trying very hard to sanitize and spread propaganda in favor of your Jewish state.


You wrote: “Apparently you don't pay much attention to what appears in Brazzil? Yes, I'm sure Embraer can build a drone. Brazzil had a recent story about it. It's being built in cooperation with the Israelis. I know, I know. No one could be so dumb as to write what you just did on Brazzil.”


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Ricardo: Even after I gave you the link to one of my articles, you still making ignorant comments.

Brazzil - Monday, 01 August 2011

The Time Is Now for Brazil to Build a Strong Military!
Written by Ricardo C. Amaral

http://www.brazzil.com/compone...tists.html

...Unmanned Air Vehicles (UAV)

In January 2010 Ciedesh.com reported: "In November, during President Shimon Peres' state visit to Brazil, Israel and Brazil sealed a US$ 350 million deal for the supply of 14 Israeli Heron UAVs to several Brazilian law enforcement agencies.


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Limpopo: “Perhaps the best Germans moved to countries other than Brasil? I think America got an idiot German or two.”


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Ricardo: Limpopo, the scope of your ignorance is amazing....


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Reply to Limpopo
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 26, 2013

Ricardo: Here is an example of the “Israeli Lobby” influence in Brazil, and in South America in general:

November 30, 2009

The above article also said: “The Brazilian government also mentioned the fact that Lula had met Israel's President Shimon Peres and the leader of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, separately during visits they had made to Brazil during the previous two weeks. Just what these meetings achieved is anyone's guess. Peres did not even get the chance to take part in a planned public discussion as his security team said the hotel where it was due to take place was not safe enough.”

The truth is: a concerned Israel even sent President Shimon Peres to Brazil to preemptively meet with Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva before the meeting with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s – a meeting that for all practical purposes has achieved nothing for Israel since Iran’s president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad achieved all his goals regarding his trip to Brazil.


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November 19, 2009

I did not mention on that forum the negative demonstrations that did occur in Brazil against the Shimon Peres visit. Last week I did read in one of the main Brazilian newspapers the Portuguese version of the following article published by a Jewish website. The article said:
“'War criminal go home,' Brazil protesters shout at Peres”
Protesters in Sao Paulo demonstrated Thursday against President Shimon Peres' visit to Brazil and Israel's actions in Gaza, according to a report posted on Haaretz website.

“War criminal, go home” the protesters shouted at Peres as he arrived in the city to present a speech at a conference of local industrialists. Some of demonstrators held signs equating Peres with Hitler; others waved Lebanese and Palestinian flags.

According to Arutz Sheva, demonstrators carried placards with pictures of Arab children killed during Israel’s 22-day war on Gaza.

During Israel’s Dec.-Jan. onslaught on the besieged Gaza Strip about 1,400 people, mostly children and women, were slaughtered and thousands more injured.

In its report the UN Human Rights Council said the Tel Aviv regime’s attacks on Gaza constituted examples of war crimes and crimes against humanity.

The report concluded that Israel used disproportionate force in the war, deliberately targeting Gaza civilians, using them as human shields, and destroying civilian infrastructure.

Source: haaretz.com


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In November 2009, about one week before Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s visit to Brazil, Israeli President Shimon Peres arrived in Brazil to beg president Lula da Silva for him to cancel the trip of Ahmadinejad's visit to Brazil.

May 14, 2012

In a Nutshell:

Ederson, Brazil has a dog in this fight in the Middle East, since over 10 million people who live in Brazil are descendents from Syrian/Lebanese people, and Brazil also has a long business relationship with the Iraqis.

If anything regarding the Middle East there's a strong human connection between Brazil/Lebanon/Syria and Iraq.

On the other hand regarding the Jewish population in Brazil:

There are various estimates regarding the number of size of the Jewish population in Brazil in 2012.

One study estimated that there are about 80,000 Jews living in Brazil in 2012. But there are other estimates that shows that the real number of the Jewish population in Brazil it is closer to 50,000 people.

The current Jewish community is mostly composed of Ashkenazi Jews of German descent and also Sephardic Jews of Spanish, Portuguese, and North African descent; among the North African Jews, a significant number are of Egyptian descent.

Some Jewish scholars say that the only threat facing Judaism in Brazil is the relatively high frequency of intermarriage.

Size of Jewish communities in Brazil
São Paulo, São Paulo: 30,000
Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro: 25,000
Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul: 15,000
Curitiba, Paraná: 1,774
Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais: 1,714
Recife, Pernambuco: 1,173
Belém, Pará: 900
Piracicaba, São Paulo: 700
Salvador, Bahia: 697
Manaus, Amazonas: 627
Brasília, Distrito Federal: 624
Niterói, Rio de Janeiro: 600
Florianópolis, Santa Catarina: 420
Santos, São Paulo: 413
Campinas, São Paulo: 364
Pelotas, Rio Grande do Sul: 330
Santo André, São Paulo: 311
Petrópolis, Rio de Janeiro: 295
Osasco, São Paulo: 261
São Bernardo do Campo, São Paulo: 251
Barueri, São Paulo: 245

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Reply to Limpopo
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 26, 2013

Ricardo: Limpopo, before you continue with your silly comments - here educate yourself about a subject that you seem to know nothing about it:

Operation Paperclip
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip


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List of German rocket scientists in the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...ted_States


Note: Limpopo, I know that you are ignorant about Brazilian history, and I don't expect you to know anything about the relationship of Brazil with the German population going back 200 years.

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Joao and Goering's nephew
written by Limpopo, March 26, 2013
Joao, the possibility certainly exists that Werner Goering's claim to being the nephew of Herman Goering is false. However, it must be true because I got the information from the Internet.smilies/cheesy.gif In any case, literary license is warranted in defending German honor from the baseless assertions that Brasil has ascended to such heights because of its German population.
My God! Is that raving lunatic Ricardo aware that Brasil has bought a French aircraft carrier, French submarines, a fleet of French helicopters, and is dealing for an air armada of overpriced French fighter planes? smilies/cheesy.gif
Ricardo, I have a confession.
written by Limpopo, March 26, 2013
Ricardo, your intuition is as keen as your wit and ability to comprehend the world about you. Your assertion that I am a member of the Israeli lobby holds some truth to it. In 1978, I ate my first kosher hot dog. I knew then that the Jews had me in their grasp and have since struggled to free myself from their influence. Thanks to wonderful people like you, who will continue to educate us about the devil's children and offer stark comparisons between them and the peaceful countries that surround them, I will probably stagger someday to my senses and break free from their devious hold. Thank you, Ricardo.smilies/wink.gif By the way, it really was a great hot dog. Spicy, hot, and juicy. The stuff of which wonderful memories are made.

One more note to add. Is it possible that sometimes you don't realize when your friends are teasing you? Just wondering.smilies/wink.gif
The United States and "Hiroshima and Nagasaki"
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 27, 2013

The Real News Network – March 27, 2013

The Bomb Sends a Message to the World - Untold History

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...q2-wvmjueg


Peter Kuznick (co-author with Oliver Stone of The Untold History of the Unites States): The atomic bomb did not end the war with Japan, it was a threat to the Soviet Union that the US would dominate the post-war world


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March 27, 2013

Ricardo: Here is what I wrote regarding this subject and posted on Brazzil magazine in August 2009:

Reply to Asp
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 29, 2009

Ricardo: I never used the word genocide in any of my postings – that is your conclusion.

I said that the United States had two completely different types of nuclear weapons, and the US needed to test both nuclear weapons to see which one was the most effective nuclear weapon of mass destruction.

Get over your guilt trip, and stop making excuses. The US dropped the second nuke over Japan because the US needed to test the second nuclear weapon. It was just a scientific test to move forward the knowledge for mankind about nuclear weapons – as I hear all the time on US television when a bunch of innocent people die, because a US made bombs kill senior citizens, woman, and children – they are justified just as a case of “Collateral Damage.”

Please don’t feel bad since when you use the term “Collateral Damage” that fix everything, and becomes O.K. to destroy vulnerable and innocent people.


Just a reminder:

… the nuclear weapon "Little Boy" was dropped on the city of Hiroshima on Monday,[1] August 6, 1945, followed on August 9 by the detonation of the "Fat Man" nuclear bomb over Nagasaki. These are to date the only attacks with nuclear weapons in the history of warfare.

The bombs killed as many as 140,000 people in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki by the end of 1945, with roughly half of those deaths occurring on the days of the bombings. Amongst these, 15–20% died from injuries or the combined effects of flash burns, trauma, and radiation burns, compounded by illness, malnutrition and radiation sickness.

Since then, more have died from leukemia and solid cancers attributed to exposure to radiation released by the bombs. In both cities, most of the dead were civilians.

Hiroshima: "Little Boy" = 13 kilotons of TNT and it was a plutonium bomb = killed as many as 140,000 people

Nagasaki: "Fat Man" = 22 kilotons of TNT and it was a uranium bomb = bomb killed as many as 80,000 people


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The Nagasaki bomb, dropped by the Boeing B-29 Bockscar was much more explosive bomb (22 kilotons of TNT as opposed to 13) than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima three days earlier, and was a plutonium bomb, whereas the Hiroshima bomb was a uranium bomb.

Basically the U.S. dropped the second atomic bomb in Japan just as a weapon test, since they were two different types of atomic bombs, then the U.S. had to drop the second bomb, because they had to test which type of bomb was a more effective weapon of mass destruction.

As you can see the “Collateral Damage” in Nagasaki were just 80,000 people.

If you want to feel better about that event then just ask yourself why it was a case of “Collateral Damage” in the Nagasaki case?

Because all these innocent people – most were civilians - were in the wrong place at the wrong time – somehow they found themselves on the path of an exploding US nuclear bomb.

I saw the actual films that they have from that event when they went inside these cities after the US nuked them – and most of the people who were nuked to a crisp were senior citizens, woman and children. Neither city was a military target.

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written by asp, March 27, 2013
ricy, that answer was bulls**t then and its bulls**t now...

i just marvel at the idiots who think it was some test, with so many horrors that went down in world war 2,with my uncle waiting on th ships that would invade japan and possibly he could get killed or way more than a million japane, any punk bitch that wants to believe that crap can kiss my ass

f**k that, im glad my uncle lived to raise his family and im glad millions of japanese were able to live to raise their families

mother f**kers need to cram that s**t up their ass because its bulls**t
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written by asp, March 27, 2013
here is a translation in joisey for you, ric

dose mudda fuggahs betta shut da fug up about da a bomb being some kind of fuggin badda boom test, get da fug out a here
Reply to ASP - The United States and "Hiroshima and Nagasaki"
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 27, 2013

Ricardo: ASP, watch this video - it is well done:

The Real News Network – March 27, 2013

The Bomb Sends a Message to the World - Untold History

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...q2-wvmjueg

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asp
written by João da Silva, March 27, 2013

dose mudda fuggahs betta shut da fug up about da a bomb being some kind of fuggin badda boom test, get da fug out a here


ASP, I didn't know you are well versed in Arabic (or is it Hebrew or Swahili?)smilies/shocked.gif

I am proud of ya and so would be Doc.L.C. (if he condescended to read you post). smilies/cool.gif
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written by asp, March 27, 2013
cmon, ric, a book by oliver stone? that is your rreferance? hahahaha

so the generals think they could have won it by may...just send in my uncle to invade, and, maybe he could die, who gives a f**k, right?

oh, let the japanese emperer stay and they will surrender....bulls**t..the japanese generals were in charge, and, they dont surrender

what a lot of bulls**t speculation and hindsight crap

cables to the japanese ambassador in russia? the emperer might surrender......bulls**t...it was the japanese military who pushed for the war and they wouldnt surrender....why didnt they surrender after the first bomb?
bulls**t

oh yeah, it was worse than hitler....bulls**t

killing civilians ? it was world war fuking 2 for gods sake, every f**king body was killing civilians

this youtube was bulls**t
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written by asp, March 27, 2013
a wasted 18 minutes and 31 seconds

what hindsight crap, brought to you by oliver north, who brought you iran contras and shredding documents
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written by asp, March 27, 2013
f**k, its oliver stone, even worse, have you seen his docu on south america? pure bulls**t, he never mentioned hugo chavez farc hookup...what a f**king lie, if he lies about that, i sure dont trust his opinion on a bomnbs in japan
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written by asp, March 27, 2013
the day i let a movie director write the history of the a bomb, you know the s**t is over

seriously, he did some good movies, but, his political agenda is pure grade d s**t...he f**king lied like s**t in his south american docu...and im going to beleive this bulls**t...hahahahah
I suggest that you watch at least the video with Paul Craig Roberts...
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 28, 2013

Ricardo: Watch at least the video with Paul Craig Roberts.

Alex Jones Show – March 22, 2013
Paul Craig Roberts: Triple Bubble Implosion Coming

http://youtu.be/qiCcpyKiC_4


On today's show, Alex welcomes American economist and renowned columnist Paul Craig Roberts to examine the Cyprus bank crisis situation and America's own crumbling economy.


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The New “BRICS” Development Bank – March 27, 2013

The SABC brings you Breakfast with BRICS leaders and captains of the industry

http://youtu.be/bWCypiczGe4


The SABC brings you Breakfast with BRICS leaders and captains of the industry

Time: 1 hr. 43 min.


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The Real News Network – March 24, 2013

Government Debt and Deficits Are Not the Problem - Private Debt Is

http://youtu.be/dQ74wWIxe4E


Michael Hudson: Why do they call for governments to balance the budget by pushing the economy at large deeper into debt, while trying to save the banks from taking a loss?

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asp
written by João da Silva, March 28, 2013

If you have any "inside info" on the Venezuelan Presidential election, please pass it on to us. Also do you what happened to the "mortal remains" of our El Comandante?
asp
written by João da Silva, March 28, 2013

Oh, I forgot to request you to do us (Limpopo & me) a small favor. Limpopo claims that Werner Goering (your uncle must have been his contemporary) was really the nephew of Herman. But...but...but...I insist he is not. To set the records straight, do you think you could ask one of your buddies in IL to call the War Hero in question and check the veracity of the fact? If Herr.Werner is not in the good ole U.S. of A, he must be here in SC.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Cheers
Werner Goering
written by Limpopo, March 28, 2013
Joao, there is absolutely no resemblance between Werner Goering and his uncle, Herman Goering. http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypos...00x200.jpg
Limpopo
written by João da Silva, March 28, 2013

Joao, there is absolutely no resemblance between Werner Goering and his uncle, Herman Goering.


Limpopo, I've been telling you all the time, that Werner and Herman are not related. You never believe in what I say. You have to pay a little more attention to what your elders say.smilies/sad.gif

But...but...but.., I have met the gentleman on the left of the picture. He is a famous figure & owns half of Asp's Bairro (a bit dour & taciturn to my taste, though).smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
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written by asp, March 28, 2013
joao, i wish could, but, i cut all my midwest ties, and dont care if i never see a snow flake again
Reply to Joao da Silva and Ederson
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, March 30, 2013

Ricardo: Watch this video if you can.

‘Global thermonuclear war not that far-fetched’ - March 30, 2013
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2...arfetched/


PS: Joao, the positive side of the story is that we will not have to worry anymore about the coming meltdown of the entire international monetary system.

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Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, March 31, 2013

Ricardo, I accessed the link you posted and the following paragraph was highly amusing (?!) to read:



Put this in the world context. We are in the midst of the total breakdown of the Western financial system. As we saw, with the breakdown in Cyprus which is not a Cypriot problem; it is not even a Europe problem; it is a Western financial system problem where we are looking at the death of the Euro.


We looking at the "death" of the Euro? No, Euro was still born and I have been mentioning about it for years. I am not an economist, but any sensible "commoner" would have sensed it a long time ago.smilies/sad.gif The year before last I was in Europe and could easily make out how the "House of Cards" was going to collapse. The European "investors" were all fleeing to their "ex-colonies" in Africa to "invest and develop" the "dark continent".smilies/shocked.gif

PS: Joao, the positive side of the story is that we will not have to worry anymore about the coming meltdown of the entire international monetary system.


No Ricardo, We have lived through the melt down of our monetary system in the late 80's and early 90's and survived. In the event of of a thermonuclear war, we will still survive! I wonder whether you watched a documentary years ago that predicted that MG and the area south of it would not be affected by the nuclear fall out. I would imagine most of the "Dark Continent" also would survive, provided the South Africans also decide to stay "neutral".smilies/smiley.gif

BTW, I haven't yet bought "survival kits" to confront the much predicted Nuclear "Holocaust". smilies/wink.gif
asp
written by João da Silva, April 01, 2013

Any news from Caracas, ASP?

I was quite busy during the Easter weekend & completely out of touch with the world events. If the North Koreans had fired their Nukes over the "Western Civilization", I wouldn't have even known.smilies/sad.gif I don't think you would have known it either.smilies/cool.gif

BTW, I suggest we all move to the first thread, as the next important "event" in our continent is the Presidential election in Venezuela.smilies/cry.gif
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written by asp, April 02, 2013
well, i made the last post over there...yeah, they could have a nucliar war, and we wouldnt feel it down here. o vento sul would blow the fall out away

i know maduro will win, if he isnt a blow hard and helping farc, i have no problem, even if he is idealogicly aligned with fidel and farc...he should just help his people
Charlie Rose interview with former senator George Mitchell on April 3, 2013
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, April 08, 2013

Charlie Rose interview with former senator George Mitchell on April 3, 2013
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12858

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