Blacks Become Majority in Brazil, But Power Remains with Whites

Brazilian blacks The news is out. Brazil, with a population of 191 million people, is no longer a country of white majority. The credit now belongs to the 49.6% black or mulatto population compared to the 49.4% defined as white and this is set to increase in coming years with that percentage increasing to 54, according to a recent report from the Rio do Janeiro Federal University.

Professor Antonio Paixão from the Rio University's Economy Institute believes that since Brazil is no longer a white majority country, "we need a policy of diversity," which is a great challenge for the political establishment.

The black birth rate is also higher than that of the whites or Europeans descendents, so the big question is whether Brazil is prepared to face the fact that blacks and mulattos are becoming a solid majority, and how this will influence legislation, asks Paixão.

But current reality shows another picture, with a considerable degree of discrimination for the blacks: the basic food basket for a black person demands 76 hours of work compared to the average 54 hours for a white person.

Similarly illiteracy among blacks runs as high as 20%, but only 6% for whites.

Since Brazil was the last country in the region to grant slaves freedom in 1888, blacks have always been at a disadvantage in education and work opportunities, points out Paixão.

Similarly, access to tertiary education for blacks is far more up road, since most of them are condemned to work to subsist, while white families can afford to pay for their children's education.

The administration of Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva is credited with having invested heavily in the social and economic integration of the black people, for example by imposing a policy of quotas for blacks in universities.

Nevertheless power in Brazil rests with the whites who hold the strategic posts in politics and the economy.

But some blacks have had outstanding careers, mainly in sports and the arts. One of them is the world famous former football star Pelé and another the musician-composer Gilberto Gil. Both have held cabinet posts, but as a white initiative towards supporting diversity.



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  • dnbaiacu

    WestCoast and Forrest Brown
    [quote]1 Obama is not black just part , so if he fails in some sort of way
    the real blacks will have a way out .

    What real Blacks are you talking about? [/quote]

    This just goes to show that the “machine” that was behind Obamas election knows exactly what they are doing. The race card has been played to the limit. And a comment like this with a subsequent reaction shows how people are being affected over the Obama “effect”.
    It’s simple. Obamas racial make-up ,, not to mention arabic name,, symbolizes how “everyone” for the most part is represented by and responsible the mess the world is. In the end no one will be able to say it was because one race or another ruled the world. (China’s a mess, so Asians can’t claim to be any better 😉 Blacks had their day with “Egypt”. And that has come and gone.
    [quote]Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.[/quote]

    This essay proves one point prophetically written thousands of years ago.

    [b] well know, O Lord, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step. Jerimiah 10:23
    We are in the middle of an experiment brought on by man himself. What happens when he tries to rule himself. 🙁 🙁

  • dnbaiacu

    Actually many are waking up to the fact that Obama is a “laranja”.. So was Bush for that matter. Anne Wortham pretty much summed it up. For a minute I thought there was a chance for “interlude” of hope albeit brief. That maybe this administrations programs stand a chance at easing some of the fear.. BUT “swine flu” has arrived. 🙁 I hope it is just a good brief distraction. But I won’t hold my breath. The next flu season in October will let us all know if this is here to stay. Schools have closed.. This ,, as if we need anything else to happen so soon. But it is all part of the sign of the times.
    Be prayerful

  • dnbaiacu

    The Way To Look At Brazil
    Lets’ stick to the subject.

    Brazil ( really,, all of South America) is like a huge plantation. It’s ruling elite are OVERSEERS.Similar to the role Isreal and Saudi and Joranian sheiks play in the Middle East..OVERSEERS. The rest are just the ignorant masses. Anglo America is the MASTER.. U.S slaves are just better fed.

    It’s really that simple.
    This is all about polarities. Universal laws never change 😉

  • dnbaiacu

    Relax WestCoast….
    Joao is not the enemy.. Chill.

    1) click on the quote icon ( directly to the left of the 1st smiley face)
    2) shift double click left , in front of and behind whatever you want to copy, ( it will turn blue)
    3)return mouse to the center of your placed quote icon and click.

    You’ve copied quotes that easier to understand 🙂 🙂

    Joao is not a racist. If so, he’s good at disguising it. Lol ..But he is really good people.

    And anyway racists should be “pitied” ,, not fought with.. Feel sorry for them.
    Look over expressions .. You will have more fun with this and learn. And it keeps the dialogue open.
    Just a suggestion.

    😉 😀 🙂 🙂

  • dnbaiacu

    @ work , plenty of type o’s in above post
    oops 🙂 I hope you got the point anyway. The people “think” they are choosing. When they are really being manipulated. It’s the whole seduction tactic of inflict pain, promise pleasure. 😉
    Like a virgins first time . And she never experiences orgasm. 🙂
    Utopia is just not in mans reach. He can’t do it on his own.

  • dnbaiacu

    Asp and Forrest ….
    I think people should take politics in bigger increments than 4 and 8 year terms. For example… How do we that the DEBACLE that was the Bush administration was not deliberate and intended????? … We shouldn’t give these that much credit for being that stupid.
    If one takes the perspective that the Bush adminstration “pushed in” ( AS IT WAS) to pave the way the administration of CHANGE which Obama willfully took on., possibly other ,albeit”politically incorrect conclusions can be drawn.
    In fact conclusions that will be in complete to the plan symbolized on the back of the dollar bills in our pockets.
    Obama is a “sweet talker” who is visually appealing. He is doing as he is told. Fully aware of the consequences some of which “Anne Wortham” points out.
    Asp , as a friendly suggestion, brush up on political science. . The machine has you thinking exactly as they want you to think.
    The truth is , Obama is destined to hand the U.S sovereignty to the U.N. , with the rest of the williing world following suit. These varied “global crises” are getting us closer and closer to that end. 😉 He’s the “powers that be” poster boy. And no one can dispute that.

  • dnbaiacu

    West Coast
    It’s not about whether racism or confusion over what shades of brown will get one discriminated against. We are all aware this foolishness exists in Brazil. The discussion was more so on the way civil rights will be won in Brazil.. If ever. And the fact that the gains in the U.S can’t be compared to whatever gains can be obtained in Brazil . The psychological infrastructure of the whole phenomenon is different. Undoing the government sponsored myth that racism doesn’t exist in Brazil in the pysche of Brazilians black and white is the biggest obstacle to overcome. Wanting to believe this.myth. Remaining in that state of denial , is easier. People usually take the path of least resistance. Brazilians DON”T fight. It’s a passive country. They have never really had a war worth mentioning.
    This isn’t going to change anytime soon.A revolution on the civil rights level is highly improbable. And of course the government counts on that.
    But there is no need for an individual to wait for the government to “liberate” him or her. And remain “shackled mentally .In Brazil , the process is best tackled “spiritually” for the individual. There is really no real time for a full scale civil rights movement. And what purpose will it serve in the short term? You will have a mass of uneducated people “MOVING’ nowhere. And with little purchasing power. The level of education in the U.S is what made the movement there unstoppable. Blacks were far too educated to remain as oppressed as they were. That’s pure evolution.
    Brazil has heavily depended on the ignorance of the masses. From a global perspective Brazil was not and is not , meant to be a first world country. ( this is where the Catholic church comes into play, but that’s another story).
    So rants such as “Afro-Americans” “fight and unite mantra doesn’t apply.
    At the end of the day money knows no color in Brazil. You can glide through the whitest of social circles there if you have it. Hands will trade where there is money to be made. Now whether you will end up marrying one of their daughters is a different story altogether. But that isn’t a newsworthy or strange phenomenon. But you can trade yourself up with exceptional skill or ability in an area or money. Brazil is very “class” oriented. And you can almost break into any class if you have something to offer. At the end of the day they aren’t that clueless as was the U.S when it realized it stood to lose more holding blacks down.
    In short, the die hard racists like any all over the globe only take issue with their bloodline being “mongrelized”. … That’s their issue. Their “rebellious” daughters are going to to what they want to do at the end of the day …. right? 😉 But let their fathers hold on to their silly unfounded fear that whites will disappear.
    Again,,, until that FEAR is done away with through a global elevation in SPIRITUAL consciousness, institutionalized racism will always exist. Fighting it is a waste of energy.
    What I personally do with my black and brown relatives is make sure all that have interest learn how to read. And encourage them to start businesses. And support them in any way possible in that endeavor. That is really all you can do. No waiting for the government by us.! I have extremely educated people in my family in brazil. And white we are not.
    That’s why I say “racism isn’t the issue” because it really doesn’t prevent you from getting what is due you in the long run. As the fellow posters Joao and Costinha demonstrate , good connections can be made that aren’t partial to color.
    Like I also pointed out. The sensitive nature of the ‘Brazilian” can readily put him in contact with a force that will INSURE he gets enough education on all levels to live a productive life. Not “rich” necessarily , BUT productive and making a “contribution” to society. I know plenty of them 😉

  • dnbaiacu

    For Those Who Want To Believe
    [b]The earth will never be destroyed[/b]

    [quote]A generation is going, and a generation is coming; but the earth is standing even to time indefinite.
    Ecclesiasted 1:4[/quote]

    [b]The earth will ALWAYS be inhabited[/b]

    [quote]For this is what the Lord has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the [true] God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: À¢€œI am the Lord, and there is no one else. Isaiah 45:18

    [b]The earth will be filled to capacity. NOT overpopulated[/b]

    [quote]Further, God blessed them and God said to them: À¢€œBe fruitful and become many and FILL the earth and subdue it
    Genesis 1:28[/quote]

    [b]With ALL types of people living in peace. The black , white, brown and everything in between[/b]

    [quote]And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore.
    Isaiah 2:4[/quote]

    [b]N MORE FOOLISHNESS OVER RACE!!!!![/b] 🙁 🙁 😀 😀

    No more fear of a gene pool being eliminated.. No more opression!!! 😀 🙂 🙂 🙂 Pure Satanic FEAR MONGERING. !!!
    The opposite of FEAR is [b]LOVE[/b]
    [quote]There is no fear in love,
    1 John 4:18[/quote]
    [quote]À‚ He that does not love has not come to know God, because God is love.
    1 John 4:8[/quote]
    It’s all self- explanatory. Strive to reflect [b]LOVE[/b] to overcome [b]FEAR[/b]
    [quote]And God went on to say: À¢€œLet us make man in our image, according to our likeness,
    Genesis 1:26[/quote]

  • dnbaiacu

    Tjat’s right!!! 🙂 Race is hardly the issue anymore unless you make it. At this point we are ALL in the same boat as “evolution” would have by “conquer and divide”tactics that have existed since the fall of man.
    It was great to see this side of “Costinha”… 😀 :D. i was taken aback. 😉 😉

    I just wish I can convince more people to look for TRUTH where they might suspect it may be. It is getting ugly out here. Yet we are not without hope. 🙂

  • dnbaiacu

    [quote]they use some techniques of condomble to win followers…

    [b]The point exactly[/b]
    Everything BUT giving people accurate knowledge of the scriptures. Good you took note of that. This is the mass deception I am describing. Cultural tendencies are exploited to deceive. And the “powers that be” know exactly what they are doing. This is what I find so disturbing. There are “societies” that have actually taken a stand to deceive. Those that don’t know ,or know and choose not to live the truth are getting the raw end of the deal. This is probably the part you don’t agree with.. I understand.
    A while back someone asked , “what is this TRUTH you are talking about?”. .. To not get controversial my response is ,, ‘you’ll know it when you hear it. And more than likely it will come to you whether you pray for it to come or not. You just have to “recognize it. But if you sincerely pray for it to be revealed to you. It will be delivered , somehow , someway.

    Don’t you like how there are so few comments , but yet so many hits? 😀 😀 😀 :D. We have an audience.
    Keep your points coming. I liked that point about the “racket” that is Universal.

  • dnbaiacu

    kid rasta
    LOL .. You don’t want to mess with “Costinha” especially if his stats are just about right give or take a few percentage points
    As for blacks and their issues anywhere? Forget about it, short or longterm. WHO raised the Alert level to 5 for the swine flu. There are more pressing issues.. By design. I wouldn’t put this past being a “population control” measure. Manufactured in a lab. The flu is expected to hit developing nations worse.
    Forget civil rights.
    Wash your hands. 😉 🙁 😮

    And Obamas a distraction.. Don’t you get it? He made it pretty clear in his campaign that he is for “everyone”. Meaning not any group in particular. Blacks are hit with unemployment worse than anyone in this economy. And with what is going on now the “economy” is going to pale in the background as this virus progresses.
    You’d do best to get your head out of the clouds and seek and accept the TRUTH.

  • dnbaiacu

    type o
    [quote] But is the messed up where it really counts.YOU [/quote]

    But if the MIND is messed up where it really counts. YOU CONTROL THEM

  • dnbaiacu

    Your points were great.!
    Fortunately for Brazil , it is a very “sensitive” country. Which will give the average citizen an upper hand in percieving where the TRUTH lies. And this despite the institutionalized efforts to keep the masses ignorant spiritually and otherwise. (And again I refer to Catholic church domination) They sponsor passivity on all levels. And this is why the continent continues to lie in the “missionary” position. This will not changed as is promoted by Lula and gang,and imagined by those that don’t understand what is really going on. Brazil is experiencing being “brought up” by foreigners the world over behind the scenes.
    To see through the deception requires a certain level of sensitivity which can be accentuated further by KNOWLEDGE. The key is you have to WANT it.
    Brazilians overall love JOY. They seem to value that more than any presupposed security money can buy,, which mindset predominates in American culture.
    The preoccupation with the sense of “joy” gets them caught up in Carnival and the emergence of all the “estatic” type religious movements of recent decades, and Candomble. This is the true face of Brazil as the article indicates. The Wizards of Oz behind the scenes know it’s all distraction and deception.. They KNOW this. So the power is and will always REMAIN in their hands until their “Fathers” time is up.
    And I am not trying to talk in parables. But there is what is called the “Father of the Lie”.. The million dollar question is if we believe he exists.
    That’s why the whole “Fight and Unite” concept has ultimately failed. It’s based on a LIE also. And the fruits of it are exactly as our fellow poster outlined.
    [quote]. African Americans: Highest divorce rate, highest drop-out rate, highest illiteracy rate, highest murdering rate, highest drug-addiction rate, highest birth rate, highest poverty rate, and so onÀ¢€¦

    I say, bro, that should keep you busy for the next 200 years!

    God mess america, [/quote]

    Blacks lost focus on their true source of power, “spirituality” BUT that is which is based on TRUTH. So continuing to believe spiritual lies despite every oppurtunity available in a country that is a super power , is the reason why the negative statistics Costinha points out exist. So you can have all the “civil rights” advances they give you. But is the messed up where it really counts.YOU STILL CONTROL THEM! Civil Rights mean nothing in the end if you still can’t manage to navigate through society due to the breakdown at home and in the community.
    Brazil has ALWAYS been predominately a country of “color”. But the ruling elite in the end are subservient to Anglo America and the rest of Europe. It has always been that way behind the scenes. So of course these “overseers” are intent on controlling their masses with spiritual and academic ignorance. And no one can dispute this. And that’s how it rolls.
    Not to even mention the unfounded fear of whites thinking they will disappear if their aren’t “established and institutionalized” boundaries. This fear is based on thinking that every white woman is interested in being with a black man. And every black man is interested in being with a white woman. That’s silly!!! Are some THAT insecure??
    But that’s exactly what the powers that be feed off of and promote. Therefore “institutionalized racism and ignorance”.
    The TRUTH THEY don’t want you to know is this:
    [b]Further, God blessed them and God said to them: À¢€œBe fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.À¢€Â
    In the future,,, with a variety of races , in their various pure forms (some mixed yes) . The earth will be populated to capacity and reproduction will STOP by divine order.
    The EARTH WILL BE FILLED. NOT overfilled , but FILLED.
    Not knowing this gives full to support the notion that somehow whites will be eliminated.. Plain Silly from the Creators standpoint.When the truth is there will utimately be a variety of races in there purest forms and some mixed in tact. Never to disappear.
    But is what happens when TRUTH is hidden. And people don’t know it , or accept. So they stay dominated by FEAR.
    The time is now to wake up.. Search for more truth.. Don’t settle for what you think you know. 🙂
    Peace to all!

  • dnbaiacu

    @ Afro-American
    You got it all wrong . And you are embarassing. Your whole “unite and fight” concept is HISTORY. The dynamics of Brazils history with slavery as compared to the U.S is different. And the only REAL reason things changed as rapidly as they did in the U.S is because the previously established inequities and separatism would only serve to weaken the U.S in the long run. Brazil is the way it is mostly due to the domination of the Catholic church. The mindset is completely different. The Protestant pysche propelled the “Civil Rights” movement. The very structure of the U.S government “allowed” that event to take place. And much of that had to do with EDUCATION on a higher level that is available in the States to those that care to take advantage of it. It’s not like that in Brazil.
    Until you understand that South America ITSELF is a plantation , you won’t understand all the dynamics @ play. Your RANT doesn’t fit.

    [quote] or stupid isht like LOLOL mentions above (“love”).[/quote]
    And what was that?!!!! 🙁
    You need to check yourself. I am Afro-American and Afro-Brazilian. And I know as well as you should know that blacks have survived atrocities in both countries due to LOVE (which is basically some element of spirituality. The CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT STARTED IN THE CHURCH. !
    CHURH=HOUSE OF GOD=LOVE . Get it?!!!
    If the “powers that be” succeeded @ eliminating that home base there would have been no Civil Rights Movement.

    I had to respond , not to further divide us (as humans in general but esp as a fellow black) because I don’t want the forum thinking we all think alike with the FIGHT AND UNITE idealogy.
    It’s a new day.. that’s not going anywhere. The forces against that are much bigger. The battle is spiritual. And that is the “isht” I was referring to.
    An elevated consciousness is going to get one through the days ahead.. And it’s not partial to color.. We are all in the same boat.
    But if you are not into that your only other lucrative option is to directly align yourself to the “powers that be” and their “societies”. And get paid during the short time they rule.
    If you are going to play the middle of the road, you are just a drop in the ocean. Subject to “evaporation when the time comes.
    We all have to choose. And GOOD will prevail in the end.
    This is not a black/white thing.
    It’s a human thing.
    I enjoyed Asp’s comments. Hello Joao 🙂 .It’s always good to hear you. Thanks for speaking up.

  • dnbaiacu

    Has there ever been a black country turned into a white one??? [/quote]

    No,,, and there never will be. It’s genetically impossible. Unless a “serious experiment” is done.
    This is why racism by presupposed necessity is institutionalized the world over. So blacks need to deal with it.. And learn to take care of themselves as much as possible within the confines of division based on fear. (A reason why the establishment has been unwilling to date , to share the power. )
    It’s ok really 😉
    True power lies in your personal extent to access the “force”,” holy spirit” “energy” from the Creator. Not recognizing that fact,, black , white or whatever will greatly limit your peace of mind, which is your only real source of power in the days ahead.
    Don’t let these conspirators dominate you with their FEAR MONGERING.
    Take CONTROL with LOVE.
    In the end , Good will prevail.. If you don’t read the Bible at least pay attention to Hollywood. The Devil likes to tell us some of the Truth so much to the point we don’t take the urgency seriously. The joke will be on most of humanity. The current powers that be will be able to gloat saying “I told you so” 😀 😉 🙁
    But fortunately their time in control is limited and running out. This is why so much is happening , so fast , in so little time. They are putting the system on lock down.. BEWARE!
    Searh for , and LIVE the TRUTH.

  • West Coast

    1 Obama is not black just part , so if he fails in some sort of way
    the real blacks will have a way out .

    What real Blacks are you talking about?

    In the Unites States, they have a rule that has been around since slavery. It is called the one drop rule. If you have one drop of Black blood, then you are Black. We don’t have the paint chart like the Brazilians do. We can’t pick our race. They put Black on your birth certificates. They used to put Negro or the “n” word.You could say that all of the Black people in the U.S are part Black. I don’t know anybody Black who does not have European blood.

  • forrest allen brown

    Look at it this way
    1 Obama is not black just part , so if he fails in some sort of way
    the real blacks will have a way out .

    @ look to his education ! a real smart person would never want to be president .
    you are held up to to much shite from every one if congress fails it is your falt.
    if congress fails you it is your falt as you cant lead then down the right road .

    again i say term limits for every one in government .
    read below makes sence even if you have a multi party system

    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

    Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The president does.

    You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    You and I don’t control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash.

    The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party.

    She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts — of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red .

    If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it’s because they want them in IRAQ

    If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it’s because they want it that way.

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like “the economy,” “inflation,” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power.

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

    Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

  • João da Silva

    [quote]Brazil ( really,, all of South America) is like a huge plantation. It’s ruling elite are OVERSEERS.Similar to the role Isreal and Saudi and Joranian sheiks play in the Middle East..OVERSEERS. The rest are just the ignorant masses. Anglo America is the MASTER.. U.S slaves are just better fed.[/quote]

    OVERSEERS? Right, as usual. 😉 😀 😉 8) 😛

    Pragmatic too. 🙂

  • João da Silva

    [quote]Joao is not a racist. If so, he’s good at disguising it. Lol ..But he is really good people. [/quote]

    Thanks, DnB. I think “West Coast” went ballistic when I used the word “our blacks”. When I said that I meant our fellow “Brasilian Blacks”. I don’t think that people like Forrest,ASP, Costa, you, me are racists. That includes this woman Anne Worthham whom Forrest cited.We all place more importance on “Brain Power” regardless of color,race, etc; Unless one understands the concept of “Brain Power”, he/she will always focus more on Race and remain isolated from the world.

    As for the comments of Anne, I tend to agree with Forrest/ASP. Why are they judging ObamaÀ‚´s performance on his being Black and not on his intellectual ability? Why don’t they simply say he is the new POTUS with formidable problems to solve in the coming years? If you recall, we have discussed about “laranjas” before and you guys have a brand new one.;-) (I don’t think “West Coast” understands the term)

    Regardless, it is great to hear from ya. 😀

  • West Coast

    How do we that the DEBACLE that was the Bush administration was not deliberate and intended????? .

    The Bush administration was deliberate. Bush Chaney and Rummy were intent on turning the U.S. into a 3rd world country. They ran things like they do in any third world country. He put his incompetent cronies in high positions. He doled out billions of dollars to his buddies with no bid contracts, like Blackwater, Haliburton, Bechtel and KBR. All of our manufacturing has been moved to china. He out sourced everything. We have to call India for anything. When they couldn’t outsource , they brought in illegal aliens to take our jobs.

  • West Coast

    First of all, you got YeagerÀ‚´s first name incorrect. It is “Chuck” and not “Chick”.

    Sorry, that was a typo on my part. I know his name is Chuck. I have the Right Stuff Video.

    Yeager broke the sound barrier much before JFK was elected (May be Forrest could refresh my memory. I think it was in 1953 in a X-15 ramjet prototype).

    I know when he broke the sound barrier. I put that in there so everybody would have a reference point. At the time Kennedy was President Yeager was Director of flight test operations and Commandant of Aerospace Research Pilot School at Edwards Air force Base. So you would not become an astronaut unitl Yeager said so.

    I’ve been to Edwards many times. A lot of your shuttle pilots train at Edwards. When you get to Edwards you see the NASA planes with their NASA tail markings. There are NASA business Jets They are white with a blue stripe along the side. Al of the NASA planes have this blue white color scheme. Except for the shuttle.

    Our blacks didn’t go overboard with Lula nor are going to lose their equal opportunities when he is gone.By making such statements, you are attributing a new trait to Lula as the “Champion for the cause of Blacks”, which is naive and incorrect. To my knowledge, he never raised racism as an issue in his two electoral campaigns. The blacks here don’t consider him as their “Great White Father” either and you have to take my word for it.

    I notice you said our blacks. Like you own them. How do you know what your Blacks think. Your are the White man and they tell you what you want to hear. How can he raise racism when there is no racism. Nobody is going to raise that as a campaign on that as an issue unless they are running for mayor of a favela.

    Somebody likes Lula. He has a 70% rating. Don’t listen to what Lula says. Watch what he does.

    By the way Obama is x-ing out all of Bush’s stupid policies, like stem cell research and torture.

  • João da Silva

    [quote]So I look for this same thing to happen when Lula leaves office. All of Lula’s policies will be X’ed out. [/quote]

    First of all, you got YeagerÀ‚´s first name incorrect. It is “Chuck” and not “Chick”. Yeager broke the sound barrier much before JFK was elected (May be Forrest could refresh my memory. I think it was in 1953 in a X-15 ramjet prototype).

    Secondly, you make a wrong assumption by making the following statement.

    [quote]So I look for this same thing to happen when Lula leaves office. All of Lula’s policies will be X’ed out. [/quote]

    Our blacks didn’t go overboard with Lula nor are going to lose their equal opportunities when he is gone.By making such statements, you are attributing a new trait to Lula as the “Champion for the cause of Blacks”, which is naive and incorrect. To my knowledge, he never raised racism as an issue in his two electoral campaigns. The blacks here don’t consider him as their “Great White Father” either and you have to take my word for it.

  • West Coast

    written by dnbaiacu, April 29, 2009
    Tjat’s right!!! smilies/smiley.gif Race is hardly the issue anymore unless you make it. At this point we are ALL in the same boat as “evolution” would have by “conquer and divide”tactics that have existed since the fall of man.
    It was great to see this side of “Costinha”… smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif. i was taken aback. smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif

    I just wish I can convince more people to look for TRUTH where they might suspect it may be. It is getting ugly out here. Yet we are not without hope. smilies/smiley.gif

    That’s why they have those code words in job ads, because it is not about race. Everybody knows that when you see “good appearance” in an ad that means whites only. Just look at your media. There are now blacks in your tv commercials unless they are playing soccer or doing the Samba. If they are on TV shows they are playing maids. When they have the big fashion show in Sao Paulo there are no Black models. How do you account for that. They interviewed the top designer and he said he could not find any good black models. Could not find one. Amazing. All of the newspaper writers are white.
    go to the Embraer jet factory. No blacks work there. How about the stock market and banking. None. But it is not about race.

    The Blacks of Brazil will never unite and fight They prefer to unite and white. Black have always been told that there is no racism in Brazil. They are even free to pick their race. What a concept. Just like going to the paint store and picking up that chart. Here’s an example:

    brancarao –a very light-skinned mulatto, so light as to appear almost white;

    caboclo/a — literally means copper-colored; applied to Indian or mestizo;

    mameluco/a — offspring of white and Indian, sometimes including black;

    cabore — offspring of black and Indian;

    cafuso — offspring of Indian and black parents;

    cariboca — a mestizo, part black and part Indian;

    cabrocha — a feminine dark-skinned mestizo type; and

    cabra — a brave mestizo of African, white and Indian ancestry.

    As a result of this, and Black of Brazil are not Dumb, they figured out that to better the race, to give their children a better chance, they would have to produce offspring with a white person. And unfortunately this is still the case today. Whites are saying there is no racism. It reminds me of the scene in the stars wars movie where ole Ben approaches the roadblock and the guards all of sudden are convinced to let them through.

    What is amazing is that the biggest proponent of Civil Right for Blacks is a white man, Lula. When he is gone it goes back to what it was. When Lula leaves office, the Black population will shrink. Blacks will go back to that paint chart.

    When John Kennedy was president. He appointed the first Black astronaut. A group led by Chick Yeager, The right stuff, broke the sounds barrier, was against it. Yeager said they are are trying to force a Nigger on us. After they killed Kennedy, Yeager got this guy kicked out of the astronaut corp.

    So I look for this same thing to happen when Lula leaves office. All of Lula’s policies will be X’ed out.

  • asp

    anne worthham has a lot of holes and generalisations in her statement….
    there is a whole lot to celibrate by having obama in office now…

    people just dont get that he would like to get out of nationalising banks or bailing out auto makers as soon as posible

    he was handed this shit on a silver platter by the horrid disgusting administration before him, and, any sane thinking individual can easily see that the unregulated, greedy , viscouos hyper capatilism of the last 8 years just didnt work and has brought america to its knees…

    obama has got his hands on the problems and is trying his solutions to deal with it. any one who doesnt give him the benifit of the doubt to take a few years to see if he can fix this horrible situation , just is cynical or against him from the get go

    ive never seen an american president take so much shit in the first 100 days as obama has had to put up with

    i have really seen the most ridiculas things said about him…im giving him some years to see if he can make it work…i have faith that he will take care of business and not bungle and drop the ball as the last administration did over and over and over….

  • forrest allen brown

    ANNE WORTHAM A black American wrote
    Fellow Americans,

    Please know: I am Black; I grew up in the segregated South. I did not vote for Barack Obama; I wrote in Ron Paul’s name as my choice for president. Most importantly, I am not race conscious.
    I do not require a Black president to know that I am a person of worth, and that life is worth living.
    I do not require a Black president to love the ideal of America.

    I cannot join you in your celebration. I feel no elation. There is no smile on my face. I am not jumping with joy. There are no tears of triumph in my eyes. For such emotions and behavior to come from me, I would have to deny all that I know about the requirements of human flourishing and survival – all that I know about the history of the United States of America, all that I know about American race relations, and all that I know about Barack Obama as a politician.
    I would have to deny the nature of the “change” that Obama asserts has come to America.

    Most importantly, I would have to abnegate my certain understanding that you have chosen to sprint down the road to serfdom that we have been on for over a century. I would have to pretend that individual liberty has no value for the success of a human life.

    I would have to evade your rejection of the slender reed of capitalism on which your success and mine depend. I would have to think it somehow rational that 94 percent of the 12 million Blacks in this country voted for a man because he looks like them (that Blacks are permitted to play the race card), and that they were joined by self-declared “progressive” whites who voted for him because he doesn’t look like them.

    I would have to wipe my mind clean of all that I know about the kind of people who have advised and taught Barack Obama and will fill posts in his administration – political intellectuals like my former colleagues at the Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government.

    I would have to believe that “fairness” is equivalent of justice. I would have to believe that man who asks me to “go forward in a new spirit of service, in a new service of sacrifice” is speaking in my interest.
    I would have to accept the premise of a man that economic prosperity comes from the “bottom up,” and who arrogantly believes that he can will it into existence by the use of government force.

    I would have to admire a man who thinks the standard of living of the masses can be improved by destroying the most productive and the generators of wealth.

    Finally, Americans, I would have to erase from my consciousness the scene of 125,000 screaming, crying, cheering people in Grant Park, Chicago irrationally chanting “Yes We Can!” Finally, I would have to wipe all memory of all the times I have heard politicians, pundits, journalists, editorialists, bloggers and intellectuals declare that capitalism is dead – and no one, including especially Alan Greenspan, objected to their assumption that the particular version of the anti-capitalistic mentality that they want to replace with their own version of anti-capitalism, is anything remotely equivalent to capitalism.

    So you have made history, Americans. You and your children have elected a Black man to the office of the president of the United States , the wounded giant of the world. The battle between John Wayne and Jane Fonda is over – and that Fonda won. Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern must be very happy men. Jimmie Carter, too. And the Kennedys have at last gotten their Kennedy look-a-like. The self-righteous welfare statists in the suburbs can feel warm moments of satisfaction for having elected a Black person.

    So, toast yourselves: 60s countercultural radicals, 80s yuppies and 90s bourgeois bohemians. Toast yourselves, Black America. Shout your glee Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Duke, Stanford, and Berkeley. You have elected not an individual who is qualified to be president, but a Black man who, like the pragmatist Franklin Roosevelt, promises to – Do Something!

    You now have someone who has picked up the baton of Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society. But you have also foolishly traded your freedom and mine – what little there is left – for the chance to feel good.

    There is nothing in me that can share your happy obliviousness.

  • Florist (À¢€¦..oÀ¢€¦..) Brown
    How many times do I have to tell youÀ¢€¦ DonÀ¢€™t bark until spoke toÀ¢€¦. Got that?

    Otherwise, you will not get your dipping for your tics and, make you share the doghouse with a sneezing piglet!

    Your master,


  • forrest allen brown

    affirmative action When will it move to the white side
    your facts are some what off .but close
    what you did not say is the amount of blacks that are in prison in brasil
    in schools of higher education ?
    the number of them on the government food , housing .
    how many are still slaves in brasil ??????????

    the other thing you went by is 40 % of the jails population in the US are latino races most illegale

    the US may be a sad place for you but for many others it is a place where even people like you can get
    a life you would not have in your home country .

  • Ana Paula

    This article kept me wondering whether we have more blacks now because black Brazilians started to refer to themselves as blacks? With the quotas for blacks-our “positive action” many people are now in line to get their benefit, therefore the number of black Brazilians have increased.

  • João da Silva

    [quote]Hello Joao smilies/smiley.gif .It’s always good to hear you. Thanks for speaking up.[/quote]

    Hi Dnb, great to hear from you too. On this racial issue, I side with Costinha, ASP and you. We truly believe that “Brainpower” knows no color, race and is san FrontiÀƒ¨r.

  • João da Silva

    [quote]I know Afro-Brasilians have a long way to go to make up for past inequalities they have endured. But for most people in Brasil, we donˢ۪t feel superior to our black citizens. I for one, attended military (middle & high) school and my best friend ever, even today, is a black person from that same school I attended. I went on to study Engineering while he became a Dentist.[/quote]

    Ha ,Ha, Costa, the fact that you went to attend the Military School and then to study Engineering (IME/ ITA?) doesn’t come as a surprise to me! I always suspected it ;-). You rightly said that you don’t feel superior to our fellow black citizens.

    Great comments, Costa. I loved them.I endorse and share your views wholeheartedly.

  • Rod

    Peter Brazil isnt a white country are u crazy.

  • ….

    Kid RastaÀ¢€¦ YouÀ¢€™ve got it all wrong!
    One thing I really despise is to watch americans (À¢€¦..0À¢€¦..) holes of any color, being condescending to my country, be it politically, economically, socially, militarily and so on. The bottom line, you people donÀ¢€™t have a leg to stand on; american reputation is mush, imaginary, make believe, got my drift?

    There are of course exceptions to every rule, and I see from time to time. some americans demonstrating good will, but rarely. Actually, I agree with many points mentioned by À¢€œdnbaiacu,À¢€Â where most americans canÀ¢€™t and will never understand the Brasilian way of thinking, which is fine by me!

    I know Afro-Brasilians have a long way to go to make up for past inequalities they have endured. But for most people in Brasil, we donˢ۪t feel superior to our black citizens. I for one, attended military (middle & high) school and my best friend ever, even today, is a black person from that same school I attended. I went on to study Engineering while he became a Dentist.

    In fact, I donÀ¢€™t like to refer to him as a À¢€œblack man,À¢€Â but by his name, a dear friend of mine, like a brother. Conversely, he feels the same about my person, of northern European genotype. I am not better than him and he is not better than me, going both ways sincerely.

    I can certainly speak for myself, I am color blind judging someone by their character, not skin pigmentation. This may sound like a clichÀƒ© but it is the darn truth. My family, friends and acquaintances all seem to feel the same way I do. ThatÀ¢€™s the Brasilian conscience, not perfect, but better than the isolationism approach used by americans.


  • asp

    lots of good points , dnb….i might not agree with all
    but, you are certainly qualified to speak on the subject…

    i think its interesting that bishop mecedo of the universal church wrote a book a long time ago about candomble . it was a very detailed book. and, i notice they use some techniques of condomble to win followers…

    the thing about carnival that i get is, its a celibration that has enormous sub sahara african root much as a people looking for joy might be involved , its definitly a celibration of these african rhythms and dances , that has evolved to a afro brazilian expresion. if you look at all the afro diasporic cultures in the americas,they are forceful , joyous ,powerful expresions. in the states, look at jazz, funk , spirituals, in cuba, mambo, cha cha cha, rumba, gua gua co , haiti has a vibrant joyous popular music as does jamaica , with calypso and reggae , puerto ricans can vibrate etc

    the power of these sub sahara african rhythms and dances is a tremendous force that dominates anyplace they brought african slaves to their locations…and it is a very uplifting and joyous force

  • Kid Rasta

    Costinha…you got it twisted
    I’m an Afro-American, and while things are not a paradise here for Black Americans, they are NO where near as bleak as your so-called facts about us in your post above. I’m not in love with America, however, a Black American has a way better chance of prospering than Afro-Brasilians. For one thing, we have a much better chance at getting educated than Afro-Brasilians. We can go to college, which is extremely difficult for the average Afro-Brasilian. We are only about 13% of the population, but there is now an Afro-American president. That alone should tell you something. In the longer term things will improve for Black Americans.

  • ch.c.

    And what about…BREQUANTERO ? Short memory ?
    Brazil was mostly populated with blacks until the 1930s.

    In the years after slavery was outlawed, the white Brazilian elite launched a national program called branquemento or, in English, “whitening.” The goal of the program was to make the people of Brazil more white, and less black. How did the government do this? It encouraged white immigrants to come to Brazil and did not allow non-Europeans into the country. It also encouraged blacks to marry Europeans. Through inter-marriage, it was hoped that the population would acquire lighter skins.

    There was also an effort to whiten the history and culture of Brazil. Afro-Brazilian history and culture were not taught in the schools, no national holidays recognized heroes like Zumbi, and black people rarely appeared in films, television programs, magazines or advertisements. Blacks were often denied jobs because of their race and had fewer opportunities than white Brazilians.

  • Afro-American À¢€“ The Rebel Without a Cause
    Before worrying so much about Brasil, why donÀ¢€™t you turn your attention to your american inequalities. African Americans: Highest divorce rate, highest drop-out rate, highest illiteracy rate, highest murdering rate, highest drug-addiction rate, highest birth rate, highest poverty rate, and so onÀ¢€¦

    I say, bro, that should keep you busy for the next 200 years!

    God mess america,


  • João da Silva

    [quote]Unite and Fight[/quote]

    Happy to inform you that I passed on your Battle Cry to some of my “Afro Brasilian” colleagues and they thought you were trying to “divide and rule”. You ain’t going to change the mind of my “Black” nurse or “Brown” doctor.

    IMHO, this article doe not deserve any comments and your “Battle Cry” is going to fall on deaf ears.

  • asp

    it wont happen in brazil like it did in the usa….
    change for afro brazilians is going to happen in brazil, but , not like it did in the usa

    the usa is the usa and has its own perameters of how it developed. it had the kkk and jim crow laws after the carpet baggers and reconstuction.

    while brazil’s slave past definitly has immense ramifications on its present state, it just wont go down the same way as the usa…and who wants it to…the black white riff in the united states is wider than a 10 lane highway…races are divided in the united states…in an unhealthy and unnatural way…

    brazilians will find their way because when brazilians look in the mirror, they know the afro brazilian is a deep part of its identity.

    right now the biggest problem is the media and its depiction of brazil as sweden

    the only black shows are from the states and afro brazilians love them.

    if the media understood the tremendous comercial power of catering to afto brazilian sencebilities, it would go a long way to bringing other things in line

  • Afro-American

    Unite and Fight
    Black Brazilians should have had civil rights/Black power revolutions decades ago. Blacks in the United States constitute less than 14% of the total U.S. population but are represented in every level of government — from state (2 African American governors and several majors of U.S. major cities, from Atlanta, Newark, Washington, D.C., Detroit, and Sacramento), congress (i.e., Congressional Black Caucus), judicial (Clarence Thomas, unfortunately), and executive (President Barack Obama). We didn’t get by “wanting to be white” or stupid isht like LOLOL mentions above (“love”). We did it by fighting with our lives for the same freedoms whites take as a birthright long denied to Blacks. African Americans are only about 13% of the U.S. population, and while the struggle certainly continues, we’ve made tremendous progress in the face of white supremacy. As Afro-Brazilians are the majority of the population, it is absolutely offensive to anything related to “democracy” that white descendant people should continue to lord over all the countries resources while giving scraps (i.e., affirmative action) to blacks. The last line of this article was the most insulting thing I’ve ever read on race relations, relegating Blacks to “the arts” and sports. Afro-Brazilians, rise up and fight! Dont’ wait for the white man and what we call “Uncle Toms” to appease you in your status as second class citizen. Free your mind from colonial mentality; if not, you’re still a slave. Free your mind, and the rest will follow. You have nothing to lose, except your chains.

  • Chico

    This is Old News
    Brazil’s population has always been heavily weighted towards people of African descent. Brazil has never been good with keeping accurate counts for administrative reasons which also produced convenience for their political agenda; i.e., pale persons of European descent. Add the fact that many persons of African descent chose to identify or classify themselves as white when indeed they were not and you get years of deflated statistics. Now people see a black U.S. president and believe it’s not so bad to identify themselves as black. This admittance will help Brazil who should now focus their surplus savings into investments in infrastructure, police reform, education, and tax reform. All of these will not only help the black poor but the nation as well and move the country closer to being a first world country.

  • …..

    MamÀƒ£e Eu QueroÀ¢€¦ MamÀƒ£e Eu Quero
    MamÀƒ£aaaaaaaae Eu Quero MamÀƒ¡À¢€¦. DÀƒ¡ Chupeta, DÀƒ¡ ChupetaÀ¢€¦

    DaaÀƒ¡ Chupeta Pru NenÀƒªn NÀƒ£o ChorÀƒ¡À¢€¦

    MamamamamamamamamÀƒ£e Eu QueroÀ¢€¦ MamÀƒ£e Eu QueroÀ¢€¦ MamÀƒ£e Eu Quero MamaaaaaÀƒ¡À¢€¦.

    Fodam-Se Gringus FDPÀ¢€¦. Lalalala!


  • jg

    …I agree with Rasta… and then all the blacks and mulatos who wanted to be white for years… make the country appears to be white… when infact it was black

  • Kid Rasta

    Brasil has always been a Black country
    This is very late. Brasil has been a Black country for a long time. The percentage of Blacks in Brasil is greater than 50%. In order for the white establishment to maintain its grip on power, it has always lied about the percentage of Blacks in Brasil.

  • Peter

    Wow never thought such things could happen in reality…
    Humm a white country turns into a black country… When will that happen to the U.S. and all the European countries with massive immigration?

    Has there ever been a black country turned into a white one???

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