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Obama Increases Pressure on Brazil to Get Boeing’s F-18 Fighter Planes

Under secretary of state Ellen Tauscher The United States is still very interested in selling 36 F-18 fighter planes to the Brazilian Air Force and the Obama administration seems to be increasing the pressure to get the deal and win the competition with France and Sweden.

The latest message from the US, according to Brazilian daily O Estado de S. Paulo, is that such a sale would be very good to bring US and Brazil closer and well as to turn the strategic relation between the two countries into a deeper and more dynamic tie.

Ellen Tauscher, state under secretary for Arms Control and International Security, who works very closely with state secretary Hillary Clinton and was in Brazil to deliver a letter from her, told o Estado:  "This is a great opportunity for deepening our relationship with Brazil… The most important in this agreement is our relationship with the Brazilian people and the Brazilian government."

She didn't show any modesty when praising the American product, made by Boeing and comparing it to the French competition, the Rafale, manufactured by Dassault.  "We are not confused over what we are offering: we still have the best plane, the world's biggest airspace company and we are still the United States of America. We believe that, in the end, these are the parameters."

Starting from the very top everybody in the Obama administration is personally committed to this deal: the president himself, Defense secretary Robert Gates and the secretary of state. Tauscher seems to have only Brazil's interest in mind when she says, "Frankly, it would be a shame if Brazil doesn't get the best plane and the best opportunity."

Why should Brazil buy the Boeing fighters? Because they are the best, they have the best technology and Brazil will get technological transfer, she says.

Can the US be trusted? Brazil had some bad experience in terms of technology transfer. American vetoed the deal when the Brazilian government tried to sell Super Tucano military planes to Venezuela just four years ago. Washington argued then that the aircraft had sensitive American technology. 

This will not happen again Tauscher guarantees: "This is a new government and a new sale. We assure the transfer. This is an unprecedented offer of transfer of technology."

And what does unprecedented mean? Tauscher explains: "The deal includes a bigger transference than it was contemplated originally. Boeing is the world's biggest airspace company, there is opportunity for generating jobs well beyond the production of these 36 jets." 

Is there a chance the US Congress might interfere to prevent the technology transfer? "They cannot interfere. The American Congress would have to pass a law to block the technology transfer and since the Executive wishes to deepen the relationship with Brazil, this is not going to happen."

And how the US would react if they lost the competition? They would be disappointed of course, but the  under secretary adds: "We will still be friends."

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  • fergie

    The people posting this anti US BS should shut up. The US has millions of undocumented Brazilians living and working in this country sending money back to Brazil.

  • Forrest Allen Brown

    the french and swiss are cut of the same cloth
    france never won a war and swiss never fought one

    but during ww2 the swiss did shoot down US bombers and did let all german slave laubor trains move through its country
    along with hideing all the gold the germans stold from other countries and jews , and still are doing so .

    I say dont sell brazil a thing they do not deserve the planes or the friendship of the US just because they are the 5 largest holder of US curence , they do not abide by any thing that they do not control or claim to be theres.

    and mr,french man try to run a computer with out US software or equipment .same with brazil .

    if you think the french plane is better
    put a brazilian polit in it and we will put a cain cutter in the US plane and bet the US plane will win hands down

    Brazil always plays the martyrs for some reason poor pitty me

  • Matthias

    Truth of the matter is, the USA’s influence is on a sharp decline, and this fighter planes are more than just jets: it’s a military alliance! Why on Earth should Brazil strike a deal with the remnants of the Roman empire when the Arabs are gaining ground? I say go French and “Vive la France!”

  • Double-Dot

    US_Male
    Ok maybe mah friend is what you said. When you come from a poor country your gonna resent the land of the free and home of the brave. I hear ya.

    He’s not a bad guy though.

    Cut him some slack.

    God bless America

  • USA_Male

    Double-Dot
    [quote]Double-Dot: How sure are you that mah friend Costinha is an American hater and suffers from an inferiority complex?[/quote]

    [quote]Slimebucket Costinha: Poorly educated and no respect for any nation but their own, amerikans will throw an embargo against you. Why can’t Americans just wake up smell the coffee and get along with everyone else ? Hence, 9/11![/quote]

    [quote]Slimebucket Costinha: Arrogant americans coupled with a terrorist government and corporate greed, is a BAD combo. Classic american posture, deny the past and keep repeating it.[/quote]

    [quote]Slimebucket Costinha: I just canÀ¢€™t resistÀ¢€¦. À¢€œVive La FranceÀ¢€Â and À¢€œDown with the US of A.À¢€Â[/quote]

    [quote]Slimebucket Costinha: God Mess Amerika,[/quote]

    I know you are going to make ridiculous comments to avoid dealing with it directly. How do you feel about the way he talks about 9/11 and our great country? You know, the one you repeatedly keep blessing.
    If that moron is in the Brazilian Air Force then I can see why Brazil can’t escape third world status. Look the childish comments from his or her last posting.

    [quote]Ah also think that you make a lousy salesman, by pissing off our potential customers for F-18.[/quote]
    Who cares. Brazil’s business is a mere bag of shells.

    [quote]You a commie agent?[/quote]
    No but you obviously feel comfortable around that kind.

  • Double-Dot

    US_Male
    [quote]So you are fine with that defeatist ala inferiority complex America hater Costinha[/quote]

    How sure are you that mah friend Costinha is an American hater and suffers from an inferiority complex? Ah think he is a one of the top men in the Brazilian Air Force and does a cost/benefit analysis before taking a final decision to buy or not . Ah think that he has a similar attitude of his Swedish buddy ch.c. Ah don’t think that ch.c is an American hater either.

    Ah also think that you make a lousy salesman, by pissing off our potential customers for F-18.

    You a commie agent?

    God bless America

  • friend of chc

    American-MaleÀ¢€¦. What are you looking for?
    Sperm sample? I donÀ¢€™t do fruit-cakes, for that you should look for a guy on this board answering by BobÀƒ£o. This is a very versatile individual able to handle AC/DC & Homo fluid exchanges with yourself!

    Anything else? Now then, Hushhhhhhh, plant your ass on the gear shifter of your pink Cadillac and let slam your head first into a brick wall like a gay crash test dummy that your areÀ¢€¦. Questions?

    God Mess Amerika,

    Costinha

    Hehehe

  • USA_Male

    Spineless Double-Dot
    [quote]Hi mah buddy,

    I didn’t write the previous post! I would never call ya a Goddamn Commie, because you are not. Ah think there is a commie impostor here that wants to drive a wedge between the great people of Brazil and the Americans.[/quote]

    So you are fine with that defeatist ala inferiority complex America hater Costinha justify the killing of your fellow countrymen on 9/11. Maybe you should move to Paris and get a new pot supplier. You’re gutless.

  • Burning Steppes

    Oil = War
    Suppose USA sells the jets to Brazil. Brazil has a lot of oil and is way nearer than middle east… Therefore, if a war pops out there, USA already “knows what Brazil has in the air”. Result: to know the enemy is to have a step further… Who knows wether countries will become allies in times like these. IÀ‚´d better bet countries will treat others as enemies.

  • Double-Dot

    Costinha
    [quote]Double-Dot (or Double-Pot)? As an aviator myself, I do appreciate this topic as well….[/quote]

    This is the real Double-Dot , not an aviator, BUT…BUT… I also appreciate this topic. What four engined aircraft do you fly?

  • friend of chc

    May the Best Aircraft Win!
    That is, the Rafale (by Dassault Aviation)!

    Double-Dot (or Double-Pot)? As an aviator myself, I do appreciate this topic as well….

    Technically comparing all the airframes in the competition, they are actually very similar in performance and endurance. However, Brasil can not overlook the unreliable american history in this deal. Today is Obama, tomorrow some other type of GW Bush and a congress’ mood, and they will undercut Brasil and not honor past contracts. Frankly, Brasil does not need that aggravation when there are other better alternatives, such as the Rafale.

    The Rafale makes sense for several reasons: Brasil & France are very close allies and being working together for decades (i.e. the Mirage). The French technology [u]is not[/u] dependent on the US. That alone, is the deal breaker. Brasil will benefit much more with France in lieu of several combined projects, then a deal with the US. From a political stand, it is also time for Brasil to say “NO” to the US.

    In short, Brasil has much more to gain in buying the Rafale other then the F-18. Sweden’s airplane, is an unproven airframe design and it depends on US technology, making it a very poor choice. Anyway, I am curious to find out what the Forca Aerea Brasileira will pick!

    Costinha

  • Double-Dot

    Costinha
    Hi mah buddy,

    I didn’t write the previous post! I would never call ya a Goddamn Commie, because you are not. Ah think there is a commie impostor here that wants to drive a wedge between the great people of Brazil and the Americans.

    Ah also think you being a qualified aviator, should take a look at our F-18 s and send an e-mail to your President Mr.Chavez recommending to buy them for your Air Force. May be you could test fly this fine aircraft made in the good ole U.S. of A, before signing the contract. If you want, you can bring in your Swedish buddy ch.c to finance the deal. He wont be of any use in evaluating the performance of our high quality F-18s as their country cant even design and manufacture decent paper kites.

    God bless America and F-18s

  • friend of chc

    Psyco TalkÀ¢€¦. Sponsored by Double-Pot.
    LetÀ¢€™s do some Psyco-Talk with Double-Pot, the knucklehead. First things first: I think you got a hold of some bad weedÀ¢€¦. Try changing your supplier!

    On the other hand, I see why you feel the way you do, knucklehead. Watching too many John Wayne movies, huh? I bet you watched the movie À¢€œPatton,À¢€Â and À¢€œSaving Private Ryan,À¢€Â didnÀ¢€™t you?

    Thatˢ۪s OK, there are many more amerikans from that cowboy culture that have the same frame-of-mind as you do. That putative domination of savage people (i.e. Native Americans), the arrogant disrespect of other traditions & cultures, and much too oriented toward white america. However, in the 21st century, that appalling approach no longer serves you well (i.e. 9/11).

    You see, many of us around the world grew-up watching with anger, the images of death and destruction of the poor, the people of color, the children and the elders, as the result of american foreign policy (too many american wars to mention here). Invariably, these tragedies reveal the violent and greedy underbelly of america, domestically and internationally. [b]Being At War Is As Amerikan As Apple-Pie![/b]

    Arrogant americans coupled with a terrorist government and corporate greed, is a BAD combo. Classic american posture, deny the past and keep repeating it.

    Double-PotÀ¢€¦ Until the next time, do you get a clearer idea of how pathetic at this you are? You are the human equivalent of a bidet?

    I just canÀ¢€™t resistÀ¢€¦. À¢€œVive La FranceÀ¢€Â and À¢€œDown with the US of A.À¢€Â

    God Mess Amerika,

    Costinha

    Hehehe

  • Double-Dot

    A Question to the CEO of Supra Shoes:

    Are you saying that the French Toy fighters are diesel powered and use religious jeans and shoes made in Jordan as ammunition instead of real cluster bombs?

    God bless America and save Brazilians from the commies.

  • Double-Dot

    Commie Costinha
    [quote]
    Double-DotÀ¢€¦ Whatever is eating you must be suffering horribly.

    Americans appear to be jealous of every nation or ethnicity, even poor Canada![/quote]

    The only thaig eating me is your wannabe western Europeon ingrate mentality. Why would we be jealous of every nation or ethnicity? We have them right here. And there’s a reason why they want to come and stay here. Poor Canada? They can afford to maintain a military that is smaller than our Boy Scouts because they sit on our border. Since the poor Canucks don’t have to spend money on a real military, they can piss away tax dollars on their disaster government run healthcare system that sucks so bad that one of their former prime ministers had to send his wife to “Amerika” to have an operation that she would’ve waited six months for in poor Canada.

    [quote]Why can’t Americans just wake up smell the coffee and get along with everyone else ? Hence, 9/11! [/quote]

    Ah don’t feel like growing a beard and ordering the wife to quit school and wear a burqa. Those are the scumbags who killed 3000 of mah people on 9/11 you knucklehead.

    God bless America

  • friend of chc

    Cuz it’s easy? Now wait just a minute COZ!
    Noot so fastÀ¢€¦. Knucklehead!

    Double-DotÀ¢€¦ Whatever is eating you must be suffering horribly.

    Americans appear to be jealous of every nation or ethnicity, even poor Canada! Poorly educated and no respect for any nation but their own, amerikans will throw an embargo against you. Why can’t Americans just wake up smell the coffee and get along with everyone else ? Hence, 9/11!

    God Mess Amerika,

    Costinha

    PS:

    Traveler asks À¢€œdo the losers always hate the winners?À¢€Â That is indeed a good questionÀ¢€¦. Ask the coach of american soccer (everyone else call it football!) team!

    By the way, Mr. Traveler, did you know that light travels faster than sound. This is you appeared bright until I heard you speak.

    Hehehe

  • Double-Dot

    ———–
    [quote]do the losers always hate the winners?[/quote]

    Cuz it’s easy.

    God bless America

  • Travelr

    Why . . .
    do the losers always hate the winners?

  • Double-Dot

    Costinha
    That’s right! Run away from mah point.

    [quote]As Charles de Gaulle would have saidÀ¢€¦.À¢€Â Je suis fier de mon cul quand je vois ta gueule.À¢€Â[/quote]

    If it wasn’t for brave Americans, the plagiarized quote you just luxuriated in would be in German.

    Run along little one and stop pulling the cape of Superman.

    God bless America

  • frind of chc

    Double-Dot versus French-Fries
    A shining example of american neuroses while feeding his fat behind on French-friesÀ¢€¦ You may rename French-Fries to Freedom-Fries, but you will still be a lardass amerikan.

    As Charles de Gaulle would have saidÀ¢€¦.À¢€Â Je suis fier de mon cul quand je vois ta gueule.À¢€Â

    Double-Dot, you have no more sense of direction than a bunch of firecrackers. My advice to you, sign up for some French lessons at Berlitz, sell your condo and move to Paris.

    Meanwhile, I will choose to sip on fine French wine and some delicious PÀƒ¢tÀƒ© de foie instead of McDonaldÀ¢€™s greasy hamburgers washed down with Dr. Pepper. And as far as the French hating all things amerikan, I must agree!

    Up yoursÀ¢€¦ God Mess Amerika.

    Costinha

    Hehehe

  • Double-Dot

    Costinha
    [quote]Hey there Double-DotÀ¢€¦. Long time no see![/quote]
    Long time no care.

    [quote]JACKY GLENNA À¢€“ Up yoursÀ¢€¦. Mr. Anti-French, next time you go to a mind reader try and remember that you are entitled to a substantial discount, due to your mental instability![/quote]
    He made a great point you wishy washy , Francophone, pseudo intellectual. How would you have defeated Hitler? With a pate knife? With one of you warped plagiarized Leninist quotes?

    [quote]God Mess Amerika[/quote]
    Up yours!

    God Bless America

  • friend of chc

    May the Best Aircraft Win!
    That is, the Rafale (by Dassault Aviation). Besides, the French is the closest ally of Brasil, and their technology is À¢€œindependentÀ¢€Â from uncle Sammy (that god damned freak olÀ¢€™ bastard).

    Hey there Double-DotÀ¢€¦. Long time no see!

    JACKY GLENNA À¢€“ Up yoursÀ¢€¦. Mr. Anti-French, next time you go to a mind reader try and remember that you are entitled to a substantial discount, due to your mental instability!

    FergieÀ¢€¦ Darling – Here is a useful tip: eat 2lbs of spicy Indian curry and then fart your head back out of your ass.

    God Mess Amerika,

    Costinha

  • ch.c.


    Aren’t we forgetting that Brazilian men are unfaithful ?

    NEVER EVER EVER HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM

  • Double-Dot

    [quote]The US has millions of undocumented Brazilians living and working in this country sending money back to Brazil. [/quote]

    ThatÀ‚´s a good news. instead of these undocumented friends sending their money to Brazil, they could always buy F-18À‚´s at discounted rates from the U.S. government and send the planes to their country.

    God bless America and the F-18s

  • Johnny Rotten

    Buy the Frenchy Planes
    Brazilians – go buy the Frenchy crap and Lulu/Chavez can kiss each others greasy butts and take a cut for themselves and the politicians.

    USA rules. Ha Haa ha!!

  • Double-Dot

    [quote]F-18 Fighters[/quote]

    I urge all mah Brazilian friends to buy F-18s. They are made in the good ole U.S. of A, unlike the French Toy planes built in the Commie Republic of China.

    God bless America

  • Zico

    French Jets
    The don’t carry guns, just very sophisticated communication devices to call the Pentagon for help. Considering that Brazilian pilots flying these things just get to play with their toys all day in absence of any threat (as long as they stay away from the favelas) let the pilots decide which plane is more fun. What a total joke.

    And in the end, Lula is not going to Buy American, it’d piss off his mento, Hugo. Comedy demais.

  • ch.c.

    How many French men does it take the defend PARIS?
    At least French men are more faithful than Brazilian men .. NEVER EVER TRUST A BRAZILIAN GUY NOT EVEN FOR RELATIONSHIPS

  • JAY GLENN

    F-18 Fighters
    Ellen Tauscher, state under secretary for Arms Control and International Security, do not mention what the F-18 do not have.
    THE FRENCH MANUFACTURED THE AIR SPEED INDICATORS THAT BROUGHT DOWN THE BRAZIL TO FRANCE COMERCIAL PLANE. (THEY WERE REPLACED WITH INDICATORS FROM GOOD YEAR AERO SPACE)
    IT WOULD BE IN THE UNITED STATES BEST INTEREST TO SEE THE FRENCH SELL BRAZIL MORE FRENCH CRAP. When CHAVES invades BRAZIL THE USA CAN COME TO THE RESCUE.
    Just remember France would be speaking German now if it were not for the USA.
    How many French men does it take the defend PARIS?
    NO one knows itˢ۪sˢ۪ never been done.

  • friend of chc

    Trust the US?
    Do you believe in the Santa-Claus?

    Costa

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