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Piauí­, in Brazil’s Northeast, Becomes Honey Hub

Brazil produced honey The northeastern Brazilian state of PiauÀ­ answered to 27.7% of total honey exports from Brazil. The information was supplied by the Brazilian Ministry of Development, Industry and Foreign Trade (MDIC). The export value in October 2007, which stood at US$ 1.9 million, was 75% greater than that of September.

"Piauí­ has always surpassed its export goal. The state has a huge production capacity, and we are seeking more and more training in the sector, so that we are able to win other markets.

"This positive percentage for honey exports had a special character due to the fact that the European embargo was lifted. This indicates that we have abided by all of the rules imposed by the European Community," explains the manager for Beekeeping Projects at Sebrae (Brazilian Service of Support to Small Business) Piauí­, Francisco Holanda.

According to data from the MDIC, Piauí­ ranks among the six leading honey exporter states in Brazil from January to October this year. Canada and South Africa have increased their imports of Brazilian honey.

Piauí­ recorded an increase of 62.7% in export revenues during that same period. The Brazilian Northeast is responsible for the processing of 10,910 tons of honey/year, and Piauí­ alone produces 4,500 tons/year.

The state of Piauí­ is estimated to have 25,000 beekeepers, distributed across more than 200 municipalities. The micro-region of Picos accounts for 60% of the state's honey production.

Data from Sebrae show that Brazil exported US$ 14 million to the United States between January and September. This represented 89.6% of all the Brazilian honey sold overseas. With the reopening of the European market this scenario should be changing soon.

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  • João da Silva

    David MendonÀƒ§a
    [quote]I suspect an industry critical to SP would have got help from the Federal Government, while the Piauiese were left hanging. [/quote]

    You are absolutely right. Please read my comments regarding Value Added Products with respect to Honey. This has been the case not only about PiauÀƒ­ and honey, but all other products and states.BTW, I made some money years ago exporting Honey.

    [quote]Look at foreign-language Federal websites and they generally ignore Piaui, or are less than positive. The lady at the Paris Embratur office couldn’t even find Piaui on the map for me! The advice and support given to Piauiese companies is TERRIBLE. It largely consists of telling them to go to irrelevant trade shows in the southeast: another helpful boost for the SP economy.
    [/quote]

    Another truth and well spoken. Unfortunately the industries in SP consider the educated North Easterners as idiots.I have met some nice educated people from PiauÀƒ­ and liked them.Hardworking and honest. A friend of mine confirmed it

    [quote]I am impressed to see anything even vaguely positive written about Piaui by a Brazilian source.[/quote]

    Why should they write positive about PiauÀƒ­, when they can hold the information on it,buy the products for a low price and sell it for a greedy profit? It makes me sick.

  • David Mendoza

    The Piauiese did well.

    I spoke with an MEP on the European agriculture committee blocking Brazilian (largely Piauiese) honey a few months ago. Apparently NO Brazilian official had contacted the committee. Reading between the lines, I have the impression that the honey ban was simply a deal to get Spanish and French support for the beef ban. It could have been overturned, rather than the Brazilians just having to cave in. I suspect an industry critical to SP would have got help from the Federal Government, while the Piauiese were left hanging.

    Look at foreign-language Federal websites and they generally ignore Piaui, or are less than positive. The lady at the Paris Embratur office couldn’t even find Piaui on the map for me! The advice and support given to Piauiese companies is TERRIBLE. It largely consists of telling them to go to irrelevant trade shows in the southeast: another helpful boost for the SP economy.

    I am impressed to see anything even vaguely positive written about Piaui by a Brazilian source.

  • P. Lienard

    BTW stating data with their actual source is not what you have done so far (but I’ve just arrived!
    cheerio and enjoy making your killings!

  • P. Lienard

    Mean market and lizard brain!

  • CH.C.

    To P/L (Profit and Loss)
    “I have also been working in ERastern Africa and let me tell you that for far away area (far away from town), wih no cash moving around (or not much), $20 a month is a fortune and allows people to actually go around quite a bit.”

    Sure. They haved no car and are in need of no car.
    Thus they dont need oil, they can use wood for the kitchen.
    They have no healthcare…and are allowed to die….but free.
    They go to school for a few years and then stop, because they cant afford.
    Electricity ? Ohhhh yessssss….they just heard of it but have none….of course.

    In Piaui it is no different in most places. May I then compare Brazil to some very poor African countries ?.
    Ohhhhh and Piaui is not the only state.

    But….but….P/L this is exactly what I have been doing……FOR YEARS……HERE IN THIS FORUM !!!!!

    To their defense, threy dont have the wealth that Brazil has.

    And this is what I have been saying in this forum….FOR YEARS.

    And how is the country wealth shared….in Brazil ?
    Well just look at your ranking, not done by me, which ranks Brazil within the bottom ten in this planet.

    And as to your question : Do you guys, provide trustworthy resources to sustain your claims and critiques?
    I do.
    No one else do. Not even you P&L. Just refer to your first disagreement. And thus far you still have provided…..NONE.
    That is the problem I face with so many ignorants and idiots here.

    They even cannot pinpoint the big voluntary errors published in many articles on this site by your government statements, Government agencies, apparent stats which contradicts others stats in the SAME article !
    And when I underline them with my sarcams, I am the one who is wrong….of course !
    You see from idiots you can expect only idiots comments ! What else can they really say ! Uncommon sense is the norm….in Brazil society !

    As I say often, to idiots, just tell them how good they are. And let them screw themselves in their own maths and explanations. And take advantage of that when their error works in your favor, and correct them when their errors work in their favor.
    Over time Millions can be easily earned that way.
    And this is what I do. Smile.
    Yessssss…if you are stupid enough to offer bonds with the world highest interest rate after inflation (a spread of well over 10 % in the long maturity bonds) I am going to buy some ! I will even leverage my investments with borrowings. Ohhh noooooo not at your crazy rates obviously, but a rates available elsewhere, such as Switzerland, Japan just to name 2.

    A killing is nearly guaranteed and this is what I do.

    I must really laugh…when I read here or elsewhere, that your rates are at historical low, when this is not true at all, and when they are still the world highest…..after inflation, and after 17 or so rates cuts !!!!!
    A more decrepitated state of mind doesnt exist outside Brazil !
    I WILL write more details on that shortly in a future forum comment !
    Yesssssss…….Brazilians and other emerging countries, are just the worst visionaries on earth.
    You just screw yourselves more….every day ! No need to push you, you plunge by yourselves.

  • P. Lienard

    As I am new to this site, let me ask something. Do you guys, provide trustworthy resources to sustain your claims and critiques? It is essential if one is not to contribute to the ambient paranoia. Discrediting a journalist and what he says if he is wrong and keep bullshitting is a duty, discrediting the press is no good as it is an essential counter pawer and I believe it has been efficient at some point in Brazilian history (Color etc.)

  • P. Lienard

    About the pompous title, yep I agree but what I was talking about is the small content that there is in it. I still believe that at a regional level, it will have an effect. Maybe slow at first but development in such backward regions takes time. About the value added to your basic goods, yes indeed that is the doom (for the time being) of many tropical countries having many resources. Taxation could play a role there in enhancing the interest in transforming in the country instead of sending abroad unprocessed goods. (high tax for goods being exported without transformation. Facilitating the creation of industires of transformation is essential and hasn’t been done enough. But still you have to launche the pump, if I may say so and you have to do that in a difficult environment (corruption, captive markets etc)

  • P. Lienard

    It seems that we are sharing more positions than I thought (according to what I read in your last message). I do agree that education is essential but sometimes the conditions to provide that education are not there (for political reason, a historic dimension like coroneis controlling areas in the Nordeste…) what do you do. Do you keep criticizing for sure but you also get involved and try to break that circle the most effective way, by giving people the means to oppose decision taken by others. It starts by making them capable to provision for their near future. If I do not need a bunch of reais to eat today, or tomorrow or.. and I know that I have a somewhat stable revenue, though small, I have some space for choice. Then we can start imagining diverting some of that money (after expending a bit) for schooling one of the kid and then that kid finds a better job and send money back for the smaller one etc. I might be repeating myself but I have seen that happening in a very short time in Eastern Africa, in something like 10 years (of course the first trained people do not go to university and learn fairly basic trade). But it works and if you know how corruption is afflicting those countries, you would find that amazing.
    I’d gladly share thoughts with you guys. I like that and it keeps me alert on what I read!
    Take care

  • João da Silva

    P. Lienard
    Sorry, I punched the wrong key and sent the message before I finished writing!

    It is true. What we need is to educate the youngsters, especially in the North Eastern states , at least to high school. Employing them to cut sugar canes, in building construction, etc; are not giving them a better future,but to ensure that they always remain poor and ignorant.BTW, I am yet to see the press screaming about deteriorating educational standards or government talking about the measures tht are being taken.

    To end my comment, my first comment in the other thread on “Brazil needs foreign help to save the Amazin..”, it was meant to be sarcastic and not to offend anybody. As I have stated many times before, Brazil has riches and unfortunately our elected leaders do not know how to manage the riches for the benefit of all. There again to elect smart leaders, a country needs educated voters who understand the consequencces of their votes.

    I apologise for the unwarranted personal attacks on your good self. Please feel free to participate in the forum and express your views.However, watch your flanks (from Ch.c and “A Brazilian”). 😉

  • João da Silva

    P. Lienard
    [quote]Even if or when we disagree, I have a much higher esteem for him, than 99 % of the other forum members. [/quote]

    As you can read, Ch.c and I have known each other during the past one year.He is very abrasive and goes into name calling ,though under my coaching he has become more diplomatic recently 😉

    However one cannot deny the fact that he knows a lot about the Brazilian economy ,politics and the press. Many times, he and other Brazilians in this blog question the numbers provided by the government through the mainstream media which are becoming mouthpieces for the government.

    For example, the headline of this article is quite pompous in saying that PiauÀƒ­ is becoming Honey Hub. If you go through the article it does promote the state of Piaui, its politicians and the state and Fedral government “Civil Servants”. However, if you look at Ch.c’s analysis, you will find that the money entering is not all that big and this business may provide temporary employment (usually with low wages) to many , while enriching few “Coroneis”. You may ask why?

    Nowhere in the article it is mentioned in what form the honey is being exported. I bet it is in bulk quantities to the importing countries where it is packed and sold under their own brands,thus adding VALUE to the honey.If the packing and labeling is done in PiauÀƒ­ , the Cooperatives can bring more money to the state and generate more business for local industries.Unfortunately, this is not restricted only to honey nor the state of PiauÀƒ­. We are happy to export commodities and build up our foreign reserves and consequently kill our small and medium sized industries that were exporting Value Added Products. Leather products and Finished wooden goods industries in the South are other examples that come to my mind. I don’t have to explain to you in length what happens to a commodity based economy.

    Ch.C says:
    [quote]Instead of letting these people earn us$ 10, 15 OR 30 US$ per month, put them all at basic/middle schools, those succeeding in the Universities, and in 20 years from now ABJECT poverty could be a thing of the past.[/quote]

    It is true. What we need is to educate the youngsters, especially in the North Eastern states , at leat to a high school

  • P. Lienard

    I have also been working in ERastern Africa and let me tell you that for far away area (far away from town), wih no cash moving around (or not much), $20 a month is a fortune and allows people to actually go around quite a bit. And I am not kidding. I know for an outsider it means shit but for them it is life saving. Getting medication and sugar for the sick baby, school fees etc. And in the context of many people getting that amount of money it starts a small scale cash economy which means more small business, services delivered etc.
    My job is among other things to run experiments in a lab and yes indeed I have to run stats test as soon as I gather data.
    And although my first comment was somewhat ironic, I still maintain that in the given situation it is amazing for those people to have that amount added to what they already make can make a huge difference. That does not mean that it right that they have to live is such povery when other people are just so rich. But then we go back to some of the comments I wrote on the other side for the other article. Wealth is not properly distributed and although Brazil is a democracy, it still has some work to do to integrate every segments of ts population.
    Also if you have traveled to Brazil or Bolivia, or Argentina or… you will certainly have noticed that you have pockets small or big (depending of the country) of development, quasi first world like. Those pockets need to be enlarged. But clearly you haven’t had yet a class of rich people who have felt concerned about doing that as in Europe in the 19 centurey and in the USA in the beginning of the 20 century. What I hope is that a market economy could do that as I have seen it starting to do it among some pastoralist populations in Eastern Africa. Injection of small amount of money, helping launch small trades, having people starting to worry about learning a craft etc. goes a long to launch tht process of development. Check that program developed by those guys from MIT. With very small investment (sometimes no more that $100/200 given to a few people), they succeeded in developing large area by some sort of chain reaction (they have done that with simple to use pumps and fertilizers). Knowing all that for having been in direct contact with such people, I still maintain tht getting out of the gutterin which those people are in absencia of a concerned government or ruling class o people, is an impressive achievement.

  • ch.c.

    ooops….continued……for Lie&hard
    ….next time, please do what you pretend your job is and show us how good your interpretation of the data is !

    Please do, I welcome you and lets agree or disagree with Your or my interpretations of common or uncommon sense.

  • ch.c.

    continued for LIe&hard
    I must laugh with your “Math and stats are good. I do that all day long to process my data but what you should not forget is there is a moment where you have to interpret your data.”

    Is that what you have done in reading the article ?
    Is that what you have done in reading my first comment ?

    Not at all. You did no maths in the first reading and no maths on my comments.
    Your only interpretations was : IMPRESSIVE ACHIEVEMENT !!!!!

  • ch.c.

    !!!!!!
    straight talking…is certainly worth more than cheating, hiding and lying as the Brazilians governments and medias do.

    And Lie&hard, sorry but again you should go to basic maths. Re-read what I wrote. The beekeepers in Piaui dont earn US$ 30.- per month.
    This was a forward looking statement for a few years out when you will export a “lot” of honey to the EU
    They dont even make US$ 20.- today.
    Because the US$ 226.- yearly….per beekeeper, as I said, is the VALUE OF THE EXPORTS, without taking in account the intermediaries, transportation to the port, warehousing, packaging, and still….the cost to grow the bees.And the….TAXES !!!!!

    To MGB ! You are somewhat wrong. Joao started in the forum around 1 year ago….only !
    And by now he is a lot better than when he started.
    Even if or when we disagree, I have a much higher esteem for him, than 99 % of the other forum members.
    Why ?
    He started to think, analyze objectively and not trust the published lies and brainwashings.

    And to Lie&hard again, your “The problem is you do not know anything about the absolute poverty you find in those area.”
    Maybe….only….should more appropriate, because you dont know anything about me.
    This said, as Joao wrote a few times on Brazil WEALTH, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE OR ALLOWED IN A MIDDLE INCOME COUNTRY, to have so much ABJECT poverty ?????
    As I wrote many times, No country on earth with similar GDP per capita, has as many poors as in Brazil.
    NOT ONE.
    Just look at your ranking for the wealth inequality and you are near the bottom.
    But the few worse than Brazil are MUCH POORER on the GDP per capita, effectively puting Brazil at the QUEUE OF THE QUEUE, WHEN ADJUSTED FOR THE GDP PER CAPITA.

    Instead of letting these people earn us$ 10, 15 OR 30 US$ per month, put them all at basic/middle schools, those succeeding in the Universities, and in 20 years from now ABJECT poverty could be a thing of the past.
    Yesssss shame to Brazil and their leaders. And shame to the high and middle calss too because they have no intention to incur the cost to help poors in their own society. Other nations must incur the costs….in the Brazilian minds. Yessss….they should pay….so that more money can be diverted from the programs and for their own benefits. End results : poors will remain poors without a good and satifactory education.

  • P. Lienard

    Makes sense

  • MGB

    KNOW each other? They have been trying to kill each other for years! 😉

  • P. Lienard

    You made me laugh there! So you two know each other?

  • João da Silva

    P. Lienard
    [quote]So let’s be gentlemanly. [/quote]

    To ask Ch.c to be gentlemanly is as futile as trying to domesticate a bull in a China shop 😉

  • P. Lienard

    And BTW have you seen at any moment in one of my interaction a term of abuse? I do not think so. So let’s be gentlemanly. That would be lovely.
    Best

  • P. Lienard

    Maybe so, but in terms of income for the individual beekeeper of Piaui, one the poorest area of Brazil, $30 is much more than what they are used to make. The problem is you do not know anything about the absolute poverty you find in those area. You can hardly judge the economical benefit it provides with criteria that you would use in one of the most developed area on earth. Math and stats are good. I do that all day long to process my data but what you should not forget is there is a moment where you have to interpret your data.
    Cheers
    The clown

  • João da Silva

    [quote]You are a clown…..Lie&hard.[/quote]

    [b]Lie Hard[/b] seems to be a better name for this fella 😉

  • ch:c.

    Nooo Lienard, Brazilians are dumb !
    How can you call a splendid achievement when 25000 beekeepers produce 4500 tons of honey ?
    This equals to 180 kgs per beekeeper over 9 months.

    Lerts do some basic maths :
    Brazil Total exports from January to September US$ 14 millions to the USA, thus yearly us$ 18,6 millions.
    This number represents 90 % of ALL your exports. therefore total exports in 2007 will be around US$ 20,46 millions.

    Piaui produces 27,7 % of total exports value, or US$ 5,66 millions.
    Divided by the 25000 beekeepers it means US$ 226.- yearly….per beekeeper.
    And these US$ 226.- YEARLY income IS NOT the beekeeper income, because it includes all intermediaries and transportation costs to the port because it represents the VALUE OF EXPORTS !!!!!!

    If you think it is a superb achievement for people to generate much less than US 225.- PER YEAR……SORRY BUT YOU TOO IS A JUNKIE BRAZILIAN.
    AND DO YOU CALL A HUB, when there is on average 1 truck…per day…during the course of the year ????

    Yesssss…Lienard, your name as LIE&hard is more appropriate.

    Why dont you go to basic school and learn basic maths since you dont even know what you are talking about.

    Ohhhh may be with the EU opening the beekeepers earnings may eventually total US$ 225.- or slightly more per beekeeper.
    Still they will earn US$ 20.- per month, may be US$ 30.- !!!!!!!

    Impressive numbers and impressive achievement ???????

    You are a clown…..Lie&hard.

  • Lienard

    You are just so dumb… sorry to say. Nothing in what you say is constructive! This is a splendid achievement if you go check on the ground!

  • ch.c.

    “The export value in October 2007, which stood at US$ 1.9 million,”
    Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…..what a great hub.
    You probably built the large needed infrastructure…..accordingly. Did you ?

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