Brazzil

That story pisses me off but what else is new in the unbalanced world in the aftermath of 400yrs of slavery?

You have to remember that because someone call thenselves white does mean that they are white.

In Brazil tons of people that are from other races call thenselves whites.

arabics,armenian, mix italians,portuguese,spanish. and mix indians(mamelucos and cafuzos/)

ex:

If you go to Brazilian date sites you will see that 90% of the people that call thenselves white are not white.

a person from libano in Brazil is white.Same person in america is arabic.



I found another day a article where 67% of the people in puerto rico feel that they are whites.

the same question was made in new york and only 29% felt that they were white.

Tenho 14 anos de graduação trabalhando nos 14 anos. E para não ser jubiliado tive que aceitar me acusarem de esquizofrenico, preciseipedir ajuda as embaixadas, tentaram me envenar e me matar. No final, pra não ser jubliado, só me aceitaam na univesidade mediante atestado médico psiquiatrico.
Será que me querem na universidade? Talvez não. Ou temos dúvida?
Naa Escola Politécnica, me assediaram psiquiatricamente e me condiconaram a não matriculado, para não passar na matéria e ser jubilado. Colocaram sósia de ex-namorado para forçar um surtar psicológico, apenas pra justificar a falta de qualificação racial pra lá estudar.
Sem comentários. Posso estar correndo risco de vida. Ou então...
Sou um psicopata. Creio que sou um psicopata, quem vai contra ao veridicto da nobreza (provincianismo) USPiano? Ninguém. Só louco.
Enlouqueci, Se não me acharem em casa, nem me procurem no hospício.
A USP é frequentemente acusada de matar seus alunos, e os acusarem de loucos. E serem acusados pela polícia de negligentes.
Arrancam todos os dentes de seus alunos, sem anestesia, abdusem os veteranos a ponto de os colocarem como exemplo para didatico para professores que não conseguem quorum em suas aulas. Nos fazem de verdadeiros palhaços, e nos vendem aos supermercados.
Eu AMO a USP. E voces?

Benedito Ubiratã da Silva
Instituto de Geociências da USP

It is very interesting article about racism in educational system in Brazil. If you are not white, forget about your future. I did pharmacy program in the UFSC. For a mixed person and poor, it was necessary to struggle against all odds. I worked in a medical lab during the night, in restaurants as a dish washer and night clubs doing the same kind of job.

After more than 3 years, people said that I was smart and a hard worker, but I was not German and I was not Lutheran, so I would not go ahead. A professor said to me that it is better to be pure black or pure native because a mixed people are low racial level. Any way, I finished the program and I moved ahead.
I registered in Biochemistry graduate program of UFPR and discover racism. I saw Professors preferred to give upgrading marks for somebody to get an “A” only for high- middle class people.

I finished my basic credits, and I needed to make more than 12 credits to get an “A” to upgrade my “Cs”. Nobody wanted to be my advisor, so an English Professor decided to give me a chance. I got “As” in many courses because my advisor was a foreigner and is recognized in science. Many people used to call me “Indian” because I have mixed race. However, I struggled and worked hard. Less than one year working in the lab, I had excellent results and I did 5 publications for International magazine. At that time, CASPE performed evaluation of Graduate Program (Master program go directly to Doctoral program). I passed to enter a PhD program directly and many students and professors complained about the Department decision. Thanks to the power of my advisor.

I finished Doctoral program and I got an “A” in my thesis. I went to USA doing post doctor program. I did not do well in the USA because my English was very poor and I had a family problem from a divorce. I came back to Curitiba and I applied for a substitute professor position in organic chemistry. They did not accept me but they hired a blonde girl who finished her undergraduate program in Chemistry in that year (she was good look). I could not believe that racism is a big issue in the Brazilian educational system. Therefore, I decided to move to another country.

I went to Canada and I started a new life. After 8 years, I got a Diploma in Chemical Technology, a specialization in Pharmaceutical Industry, and another Diploma in Pharmaceutical Research & Development Technology. Sometimes, I feel desire to go back home. I sent already my resume to many universities and pharmaceutical company, however, nobody cares.

Many people advise me to not come back to Brazil. I always remember some funny situations, for example, Jacob’s daughter who got only “As” in the entire graduate program, never wrote a project, and had 3 pregnancies during the program and got the Grant from CNPq during 3 years without doing lab works and finally she dropped the program.

Professors in university even only highlight their backgrounds. For instance, a professor spent time in class talking about her Japanese heritage and how French people treated her well instead of giving a good class or the stupid statistic classes and so many courses taught for people not qualified and all those people pretending to be smart and for what?
This is Brazil.

Antonio Teixeira
azteixei@mailcity.com

You have too many young Blacks that are depending upon you to lift them up. If not you, who else can become their advisor and give them the chance that you received? Your people are counting on you. As for the"mixed" race label. Being a Black American I often laugh at it for those that think such a title makes a difference to the whites that are racists. As my mother once told me. The whites use to say, "if you have one drop of black blood in you, you're black". They don't say it anymore...that don't stop them from thinking though..do it? baebae519@yahoo.com

As a person that has visited Brasil over 15 times and is married to a Brasilian, I feel somewhat qualified to comment on these matters.
Brasil is very different from the United States because the government does not invest in the public educational system. This means that the majority of the people branco, preto, mulato ou indiano do not have access to a good educational basis. It has become clear to me that one must attend a "good" private school in order to prepare for a good job or college/university. The problem of racism exist in Brasil but is slightly differnent than here in the United States. While racism here is directed at Black people, in Brasil its directed at non-whites which is about 70% of the population. Its clear by watching Brasilian television that everyone does not have the same opportunity to get the best positions in Brasil. I subscribe to both tv Globo and Record and can remember only seeing one black reporter (Record). Mulatos e Indianos are totally missing, expect the competition for the carnaval samba queen - they pulled out some beauitiful mulatas for that competition. My wife is a morena claro and our daughter is closer to her than me (black American). We are planning to live in Brasil but the educational system has me concerned. I don't want my daughter to be handicaped from the start. In general, Brasil is a lot more friendly place to live than in the U.S.

I know of several Afro-Brazilians who are here in the US. All of them want to return to Brazil because their heart longs for their homeland. However many compare their life here in the US to that back in Brazil and common sense tells them to stay in the US. Things that seem average to Americans seem like good achievements to these Brazilians. For instance some have managed to purchase homes and nice cars and obtain high paying careers. I think that the most disturbing statement that one of them made to me was that people here in the US treat them like serious professionals in their careers. That would leave me to assume that in Brazil their skills and qualifications get questioned quite often. So to them the US seems to offer better upward mobility.

I have lived in Brazil on two separate occasions for a total of nearly 3 years and my husband is brasiliero. We have been living in the states for the past 4 years but we plan to move back to Brazil when my husband graduates from college. My husband is pardo, or what some might call indio, and had a hard time getting into college in Brazil. He's a hard worker and a bright guy but he constantly ran into difficulties when he tried to go to school. He also had trouble finding good paying jobs, I think because of his skin color. He worked for a white man who owned a hotel in Sao Paulo and was expected to work the as a waiter and busboy for more than ten hours straight without a break for lunch or to rest for a few minutes. He and some friends who were black, were not offered any food or water the entire time they worked and at the end of the day, when my husband called attention to the fact that they had not been given a break or been able to eat all day the man told him he was sorry and tried to give him 10 reais (about 4 US dollars) as compensation. My husband looked the white man in the eye and told him, "I'm not your slave" and walked away. I am certain he and his friends were treated this way because of their skin color. Things like this unfortunately go unnoticed in Brazil because many brasileiros don't like to admit that racism even exists in their country. Likewise, many call claim that racism is not racism but rather classicsim. Nothing will change until people are willing to recognize the ugly face of racial discrimination and call it like it is.

The Black has lazed and fornicated away his share, and is not entitled to s**t.

Now in the US, black children from families with a working father are just as likely to do well in life as white kids, so you whiners shouldn't blame being black (accident of birth) for being n****rs (self-inflicted).

When we can say the same in Brasil, we can claim that we are as racially advanced as the USA. Till then, let's admit that we're just more comfortable with each other here in Brasil.

Puerto Ricans ARE whiter on the island than in New York, dumb f**ks, it's the dark poor who come to NY, not the white middle and upper classes.

Carolina Brígido must be retarded! If grads are 17 or 18% non-white, than the uni is not a whites-only club!

Yep, the title is stupid - Carolina must be Brasilian!

Oh, yes, of course, it's so easy to blame the white man for your own incapability! It must be a widespread conspiracy against the noble blacks in the whole world, considering that blacks are everywhere the social scum. But do you know what's interesting? It's interesting that if you pick any white country with an Asian (Oriental) minority, the Asians always do better than the native whites. What's behind it? Do the ugly whites supress blacks, but support Asians? Or is it, my God, genetics???

As I am sure you know, Mr. alleged European, the reason why Asians are not as discriminated against as Blacks have been is because first, Asians tend to constitute a much smaller minority group, than Blacks are, and thus, are viewed as much less of a threat. Second, historically and genetically, there are less visible differences between Asians and Whites than between Blacks and Whites. Look at many "White" people, and you will see very clear Asian characteristics, especially among Slavic, Germanic and Scandanavinan people, think Lance Armstrong, Claudia Schiffer and Leonid Brezhnev. Hence, Europeans often have a higher level of comfort in dealing with Asians, they are deemed to be less threatening, and there is less of a need to oppress them or "keep them in their place" through discriminatory laws and social barriers. Its interesting though that in none of those enlightened European countries has an Asian reached the Apex of national power/leadership .
Third, the interactions between Blacks and Whites, historically, have been hostile, think South Africa, enslavement in the New World, etc. The interactions between Whites and Asians, have generally been less hostile. Though Europeans colonialized China, India, etc. and subjugated the people in those countries, creating class and social inequality, they did not generally impoverish and "Jim Crow" the indigenous populations for extended periods of time. Even in colonialization, there remained a level of respect for the dignity of the indigenous Asian cultures. Why? The idea of White supremacy permits a hierarchy in which Whites view themselves as being on top, the least threatening non-White group next (Asians), Native Americans and mixed race people next, Blacks at the end. Why does it matter what White people think? Because the institutional power to oppress remains largely in their hands.
Fourth, Asian groups who migrated to European countries and the United States, were, obviously, of some financial means as they were able to use resources to leave where they were and come to a new country. Thus, the people who came were often middle class in their own countries, were not coming as dirt poor and destitute arrivals, so they had something to build upon. Black people who lived in the US (and Brazil) did not often have access to those resources, even after many generations and thus, had nothing upon which to build and had difficulty advancing in successive generations becuause their primary focus was on economic and physical survival. People worried about whether they will live to see tomorrow tend not to spend too much time creating elaborate plans for their futures and the futures of their children. Asian migrants were often not only in a position to plan for their futures, but to find ways to create opportunities for themselves to make it because they were not living in survival mode.
Also, because they were typically middle class, they likely were not targets of generational discrimination, likely had a strong sense of self that comes from believing that opportunities will be available for you, and thus, they had some sense of self worth that allowed them to more easily brush off racist treatment than were Black Americans/Brazilians who only knew a history of being subjugated. When you have a strong sense of your own history, its more difficult to become oppressed.
There are other reasons to challenge your insipid "genetic" assertions, but I think you get the point. While it is true that Black people in the US and Brazil often perpetuate their own oppression by buying into the very stereotypes that cheat them out of equality (ie education is for White people; things have ALWAYS been this way and won't change; I'll just settle for what I can get and won't find ways to beat the racisim in the system to get to where I want to go), the reality is that there are concerted efforts by many White people in positions of power to circumvent Black advancement. People with power always try to consolidate the power,reserve and maintain it within their own group. Anyone who denies the historical reality of white opposition to Black advancement and contends that Blacks are where they are as a group simply because they don't work hard and are "whiners" is intellectually dishonest.
People who give simplistic explanations for complex problems reveal themselves to be pretty stupid and uninformed.

nodice

FOR YOUR INFORMATION 71% OF ALL 200 MILLION BRASILLIANS HAVE SOME "BLACK AFRICAN BLOOD" FLOWING IN THEIR VIENS WHETHER THEY ADMIT IT OR NOT, WHETHER THEY KNOW IT OR NOT. DOES NOT MATTER HOW WHITE THEY LOOK.
THE FAMOUS BRASILLIAN MODEL "GISELLE" ADMITS SHES 15% BLACK BECAUSE BOTH OF HER GRANDMOTHERS (PATERNAL AND MATERNAL) ARE MULLATOS.
DID YOU KNOW THAT 25% OF ALL AMERICAN TOURISTS WHO VISIT BRASIL ARE "BLACK AMERICANS" WHO ARE MIDDLE CLASS AND UNIVERSITY EDUCATED? IT IS IMPORTANT FOR MULATTOS AND BLACKS IN BRASIL TO SEE THESE POSITIVE EXAMPLES OF SUCCESS , SO THEY IN TURN MIGHT STRIVE FOR IT.
I LOVE BRASIL