Brazzil

In reality today there is a lot less reason to Panic regarding the United States show of power than a few years ago.

There are many trends that are at work today that will take care of any possible US threat to South America.

By the time the US is done in Afghanistan and in Iraq, and even possibly in Iran the US Army is going to look like the Soviet Army after they lost their war in Afghanistan in the late 1980’s and from that point on the US Army probably will look like the Russian Army after the Soviet Empire collapse.

Please don’t forget that many foreign countries are getting tired of supporting US government constant deficit spending to finance its adventures around the world and these people are aware that the piles of US dollars they have been accumulating are declining in value by the second in world markets.

The other major trend is the Baby Boom generation that is finally here and it will cost the United States every dime that they can muster; almost overnight the US population aged over 65-years old is ballooning from the current 40 million people to about 75 million people and every year that goes by in the coming years the US economy has to carry the extra cost of another wave of 3 million retirees on its back.

Never mind the current state of the US economy that still running on fumes and on foreign money with collapsing major institutions, and even run in major banks have started at this point. It is not a pretty picture of a collapsing and imploding old Empire.

In a nutshell: who is going to finance the US new adventures in South America?

The Chinese?

I don’t think so.

In essence the South Americans are afraid of a ghost.

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Hm, what can i say......

OMG Nao li nada pq to uma preguissa de ler esse livro a cima...

By the way, for the people who did not grasped my point.

In a nutshell: Military over spending killed the last two world superpowers – the British Empire and the Soviet Empire.

Military over spending does the trick every time.

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any one trying to make this out to be some kind of usa military maneuver to threaten enemies in south america , is way off base of reality.

there is no way the united states is going to try to use military force to get something in south america .if it is going to do something, its going to be under the table with manipulation.

its not in the united states interest to do anything like that now, militarily or under the table manipulation.this article is right in the sence that the united states doesnt have control over what happens in south america , at this time. correa will close the base in equador. like they said, there was little activity in the paraguay base.its all pretty flimsy.

notions of some delta force military base in the amazon, ready to go rambowing their way into possecion of the riches there , are fairy tales.

it reminds me of the jornal do brasil article, pointing out false rumors , lies about a text book in united states schools, saying a part of the amazon was under international domain ( meaning they had the right to invade if something was done wrong) ,were untrue. they had been spread by nationalists in brazil trying to scare people .even after this article came out, there were teachers in schools trying to say it was still true.

the united states should be trying to figure out how to do good ,solid , integrity type business with brazil, for the new oil discoveries, so they dont have to be tied to chavez or the middle east or russia.

ratcheting up old ghosts from the cold war just isnt the way it is now. its a differant dynamic in south america.

Just look at what is happening in Afghanistan.

The US Army is having as much trouble as the Soviet Union had before its collapse.

Afghanistan is the end of the line and where former superpowers are buried.

For all practical purposes the US Army is becoming impotent.

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The US once again, cruising for a bruising worldwide… The meddling into other nations internal affairs, the antagonizing of other people and governments, the disrespect of international laws and agreements, the terrorizing of poor nations to establish control, the American military intervention, and on ever-expanding fronts.

The American identity has become one measure in terms of gains, wars, casualties, closely followed by rhetorical non-sense to justify such aggression, all in the name of the bottom line, profit!

The Pentagon is a nest of state sponsored terrorism across the world and will not stop short of anything to attain their objectives. The former excuse use to be communism, now, it’s narcotraffic or international terrorism, different label, same attitude. The american crusaders will lie, deceive, kill, control in order to remain not a “superpower,” but “supreme power.” The predatory American politicians are not to be trusted, ever!

American foreign policy elements are "monolithic” (i.e. the Russians are taking it over) and some ruthless “conspiracy" (i.e. protect our national interests) to convince the american people, who besides being extremely ignorant, the worse, they are shameless indifferent.

The US has become a sick nation of warmongers. The American psyche has reached a crisis point, stressed to the max, and grown into foolish disheartened superficial thinking, with far reaching implications and animosity of other countries.

I would be ashamed to be an American.

Costinha

The perceptions of most people around the world are influenced by images in Hollywood movies but there is a big difference between this false perception and the realities facing the US Army in such places as Iraq and Afghanistan.

What has been going on in Afghanistan since 2002 is a clear example of the declining US military capabilities and its impotence in achieving military goals even in a country that was already in pieces from long years of fighting another war.

Old perceptions can die a slow death.

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The U.S. Military is not losing it's power or abilities; this perceived weakness comes from it's misuse as a police force or occupying force. This is the same military that has swept across huge stretches of territory in record time every time it has been tasked with an attack since the end of Vietnam. The use of U.S. armed forces in diplomatic struggles or in aid of commercial interests is a aberration and hopefully the U.S. public is getting wise.

There is no feasible plan to take the Amazon for any reason nor any reason to warrant doing that. I'm pretty sure U.S. military planners think so too. Unfortunately there are a lot of european descended people in the south of Brasil who think they have some use for it though they have never been there and couldn't make a go of it if they went; the future of the Amazon is in the native and mixed people who are living there now. The way forward for Brasil is to educate and develop the present inhabitants of such regions.

Dewolfe

The original title for this article: "United States Announces IV Fleet Resumes Operations Amid South American Suspicions".The editors of this magazine changed it to: "Is the US Navy After Brazil's Oil? Some Brazilians Think So", which is more sensational and politically correct to use.

Also interesting to note is that the author cites references from "Carta Capital" and "Folha". I presume that he can read Portuguese and if so, should access more Brazilian News Magazines and research further to find out what the "Other Brazilians" think.

I did enjoy reading the comments of Ricardo, Coastinha and asp, though Ricardo summed it all by saying:

In essence the South Americans are afraid of a ghost.

Instead of being afraid of a "ghost", our foreign policy should be to maintain our existing friends and cultivate new ones. We don't show our greatness nor leadership by saber rattling or teaming up with losers. I think Ricardo Amaral understands what I am saying.

THINK AGAIN

the US has a total volanteer army and russia and the british did not .

the prees is killing the US military like it did in the NAM eara the congress and there sepicail intrest groups are another major concern .

the bigest reaso the are there is the open water piricy going on the the waters off the SA & CA including the islands .

dozens of pravit yatchs have been robed , small cargo ships and the likes are also getting hit .

and as i remember the last 4 joint fleet operactions the USA paid for the fuel for the brasilian navy .

and a navy moving around is not a show of force .
when they want to show force they block your ports over fly your captial and sweep the skys and sea of you air force and navy

to me they are just a bunch of guys on there boats having fun .

and dont even think if they were to put into port in brasil the local
boost in cash would not be a wind fall fro that city .

look at the ports in spain , portugal , italy , and other places making money hand over fist of the saylors .


you miss informed brasilians keep think every one is after you

your country has been around for 246 years longer than the US .

it is your leaders making you what you are .
as it is ours making the US look like fools
for there stupid mover around the world

enough said

Says: miss informed brasilians keep think every one is after you

Corrected: well informed Brasilians know the US is threatening our sovereignty.

There...

Costa

Hi João, I am back. I returned a week ago and have been catching up without commenting. I still have quite a few articles to read, not sure if I will finish them before I go home to my country in a week.

Here is a website that you should find interesting. www.oecs.org I recommend reading the following document which is located at the bottom of the home page first. 7th May, 2008 "OECS: Draft of New Treaty"

See you here.

Unfortunately there are a lot of european descended people in the south of Brasil who think they have some use for it though they have never been there and couldn't make a go of it if they went

An interesting conspiracy theory.The "Blue eyed" German and Italian descendants in Southern Brazil are conspiring to invade and destroy the Amazon rain forest. At least we have a "feasible" plan unlike the Americans.

The way forward for Brasil is to educate and develop the present inhabitants of such regions.

Who is going to do it, the Swiss?

at my last count brasil had
4 frigets working
28 small patrol craft
1 sub not so goon shape
1 aircraft carrier a musem piece

237 other boats in different states of ill repair
all under stafed by nocoms and there officers only out to
better themselves in the eyes of there familys .

joao what is your plan for the amazon .

mine would be build a fence around it of just one wire .
and any one cross it with the intinsions of planting ,cutting
taking would spend the rest of there lives
in jail
and that would be politicans to start

joao what is your plan for the amazon

My plan is a hybrid one of our Minister of Long term planning, the General in command of the Amazon, that of "A Brazilian", "Gringo", RA and your good self.

It would not work for the following reasons:

1) The Minister of long range planning spent most of his adult life in U.S. The press is more interested in making fun of his heavy Bostonian accent.
2)Nobody wants to hear what the General has to say.
3)"A Brazilian" is a pariah in this blog!
4)"Gringo" is a Gringo and hence to be persecuted ruthlessly.
5)RA is another Brazilian with a heavy New Yorker accent! The press would hound him too.
6)You another well meaning American.
7)Finally me, I don't work for the government.

Conclusion: Não vai dar certo

btw, are you already ashore in B & B?

Hi João, I am back. I returned a week ago and have been catching up without commenting. I still have quite a few articles to read, not sure if I will finish them before I go home to my country in a week.

Thanks for the message. Are u in Brazil or Miami?. Not worth reading all the articles. Just read that of Ricardo Amaral.

Here is a website that you should find interesting. www.oecs.org I recommend reading the following document which is located at the bottom of the home page first. 7th May, 2008 "OECS: Draft of New Treaty"

I did go through the website and I will later on read the "Draft of New Treaty". But it seems that Alberties have taken over your country! There is an interesting blogger from Alberta and I hope he reads our comments!

Did you have a good trip?

"Who is going to do it, the Swiss?"

The answere is no old man, only the Cok Les Tina's have a chance with the Darwininan treinemento tactics of the Ape Bra's Zillions and thier ill horded gains.

.....TOTALLY OBSESSED !!!!!

Instead of going to Brazil......dont you think it would be wiser to go to a country producing 10 millions barrels per day !!!!!

Such as Saudi Arabia !

Ohhhh and they could include ALL the small OPEC countries : Kuwait, and all the Emirates !!!!

Easy targets !

Why are brazilians totally paranoïac ?????

"Who is going to do it, the Swiss?"

I thought you assassinated Ch.c and are pretending that you didn't do it.It is not going to work, Simpleton. Ch.c is alive, well and good health. He is in Cairo,having a hard time

Why are brazilians totally paranoïac ?????

I don't know, Ch.c. But I am hurt by the comments of your friend "Dewolfe". How could he make irresponsible comments accusing us the Southerners of destroying the Amazon?

Do you think that this "Dewolfe" found his degree in a detergent pack? We need a complete report on this issue.

yes a bit late in the year but nice still .

picked up clear view boat so we are just paddling around
looking through the bottom and seeing fish turtles .

and lunch swims by often .new zeland in starting to warm up
may head far south but go by perth and see some old friends in the down under
if they would ever stop all the import inspections

would the brasilians beleive i was going to take there oil , and culture
if i came by with the pale horse under me !!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry....but is Dewolfe a Swiss ???
Funny his statement.
Not only the USA lost the Vietnam war, they were ridiculized when the U.S. Embassy was taken as hostage in Iran. And they lost face in Somalia.

This said the Amazon DOESNT belong to Brazil contrary to what BRAZILIANS say. There are 8 or 9 countries owning the Amazon.

Proof again that you take as yours....what is NOT totally yours !

But coming from a Brazilian.....NORMAL ! Isnt it ?

And I repeat that Brazilians are paranoïac because on top of the countries I mentionned as easy targets....there is also....VENEZUELA !!!!
With far more proven oil and gas reserves than all of Brazil in the Carioca, Tupi fields....including the Samba and Bossa Nova fields.

Samba and Bossa Nova fields are the name of your NEXT discovery ! Did not you know yet ?


Stupid question Joao : what is Brazil going to do with their ethanol industry.....apparently so much more competitive than oil ?
Hmmmm......laugh....laugh....laugh....laugh !!!!!

"Are u in Brazil or Miami?."

No, At the moment I am in St. Croix, one of the three US Virgin Islands visiting.

"Not worth reading all the articles. Just read that of Ricardo Amaral."

I am almost ready to read his.

"...it seems that Alberties have taken over your country!"

Everyone is welcome as long as they behave themselves.

My trip was good just a little bit long this time---spent a month at anchor in Kuwait waiting for cargo. We went to the usual ports plus Jebel Ali, UAE. Those quys are really putting their oil profits to work. The port and other close areas which I could observe were completely transformed when compared to the last time I was there in the summer of 1999.

Piracy was at its peak in the Gulf of Aden in April and May with over 15 incidents. At least 4 vessels were taken. We did not have any problems however, we were ready for them.

Dewolfe is a middle aged American, no degree at all, but I have lived and traveled in the Amazon with Amazonense. Perhaps I shouldd have left out "South" as a descriptor since in this case south is North of Cuiaba or so.

The point is financial interests from outside the region are inimical to the well being of those born in it. The Government repeatedly has to crack down in order to guarantee any future at all to the people or the rain forest.

You (Brazilians) don't have feasible plan at all until you stop this destruction of the land and people.

I am hurt and resent any comparison to Chc; that was ad hominem and a low blow.

My point about the U.S. military is they are quite capable of pounding any three South American militaries into component parts but have no incentive to do so. We are as a nation friendly to all peoples our corrupt government aside and there is no chance we will attempt to take any territory in South America by aggression.

All this talk is a case of young men trying to put themselves forward as wise and deserving of leadership; clearly any consideration of facts makes this absurd.

Dewolfe

Some Brazilians think so? LMAO. That's a good one. If we're going to talk about "what some brazilians think" then we're in for a long one.

Are these the same Brazilians that played a childish game of reciprocity (even though they were completely unprepared to do so) to the identification standards placed by the U.S. for every country on the planet after 9-11?

Are they the same Brazilians that were outraged and protested when a Brazilian was killed during a time of terrorism in England, who lived in the very same building as the terrorists, yet stand silently by while their own police force murder children on the streets of Rio?

Are they the same Brazilians that believed that the two Brazilians who died in U.S. jails a year or so ago after being picked up by Massachusetts police for traffic violations (big surprise ) and ingested the cocaine they had in their procession with intent to distribute, causing them to have cardiac arrest, was a result of police brutality towards Brazilians?

And finally, are these the same Brazilians who swallowed hook, line, and sinker the fraud perpetrated by Brazilians on Brazilians that the U.S. has textbooks teaching our children that the Amazon is "international territory"?

yes the military took a hit in somila .
only because the press & government would not let them do what they were there for .
and yes then there was the movie about it , and a lot of good men died for the fools they were trying to protect , when was the last time you hurd or saw a sentor or congress man die for something the military wanted them to do .

another thing about somila the men that died in the black hawk crash and there people lost there lives but 9 men took over 1500 of them with them ,
and the main war loard had two exwives new york city living on welfare at the time !!!!!!!!!!!

IN iran again the goverment told the military to stand down we will talk it out , yea carter the idot , then when regan took office that very day he was sowrn in the people were set free ,
Why you should ask , becaus regan told them we will come over and take them at all coast .
and again NAM not a loss to us who served A LET DOWN becaus the people of the US had let us down we came home to
people calling us baby killers & rapers of young girls .

why well jane fonda the bitch , and the sorry ass press
i am glad to have out lived most of them whom hurt all of us my they never find peice in death , you to jane

SO go a head and beleive what you want . and you will be as dumb as most electid officals .
hiding in fear for there lives and jobs by spenning hatered for others to keep the eyes off them and tere rong doings

How could he make irresponsible comments accusing us the Southerners of destroying the Amazon?

Because it's true. Joao, the riberinhos and trabalhadores Rurais in various parts of Para refer to grileiros as "Gauchos". For them, anyone from the south is a "Gaucho", and yes, most gauchos/grileiros in the Amazon pose a more immediate threat to the safety of communities and individual livelihoods than do make-believe US armed soldiers, the Bilderbergs, NGOs or whatever other conspiracy your military and government feeds you to believe.

Ironically, as some here bitch and moan over the "impending US invasion" (yawn) and the Brazilian government has made it their recent mission to complicate the operations of non governmental organizations (all under the banner of "the Amazon is ours"; in another piece of state propaganda on this site, the author is gushing over the fact that Cargill will invest another 69 million to harvest and export more from Brazil. Where's the yammering from usual suspects? NADA. Just like when the Pope announced to help SI and those being victimized by thugs in Raposa Serra do sol. Double standards?

As long as the government here programs ladies like Costinha and Abe, to throw their hissy fits about "the evil empire" whenever the Amazon is mentioned, the Government can continue with their business as usual incompetence in the Amazon. Most farms are owned by politicians, no surprise. Just look who owns MT. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

Here's a lovely tribute to grilieros...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vz-56Ei9Aw&feature=user

Regarding the Oil, I agree with Ricardo on this one. But not only is the US military suffering war fatigue, but many Americans now see the Republican reptiles in their true slithering form. So, American's don't want another silly war over oil. The American military is overspent, as is the patiences with most rational thinking Americans. They do exist.

Now, that might not stop Good Ole Georgy from lobbing one over to Iran as he's heading out of the white house to stand trial for war crimes in the Hague.

I became confused when I heard these terms which reference the word service.
Internal Revenue Service, Telephone Service, T.V. Service, Civil Service, City & County Public Service, Customer Service, and POLITICAL SERVICE This is not what I thought service meant. But today,
I overheard two farmers talking, and one of them said he had hired a bull to service a few cows. BAM!!! It all came into perspective. I now understand what all those service agencies are doing to us.
I hope you are as enlightened as I am.

3)"A Brazilian" is a pariah in this blog!
4)"Gringo" is a Gringo and hence to be persecuted ruthlessly.

Nice! I quite like the BANG or explanation mark after the word "Pariah". As for being persecuted, it's the cross I bare, but I'll be putting it down because I hear y'all need the wood.

“My point about the U.S. military is they are quite capable of pounding any three South American militaries into component parts but have no incentive to do so.”

Was not the same said about Vietnam? Or even Iraq, as well as Afghanistan? Keep dreaming american rats!

“We are as a nation friendly to all peoples”

Good stand-up comedy… Friendly nation! Yeah…. I believe in Santa Claus, don’t you?

"our corrupt government aside and there i no chance we will attempt to take any territory in South America by aggression.”

What do you call what is happening in Colombia as we speak?

You know what? I am not surprised by your obnoxious statements… It fits the “ugly, ignorant, and indifferent American portrait.”

Costinha

PS Gringonorreah… If I want the advice of a dullard, I'll slap you on the back of the head and wake up that little peg legged hamster that operates the drool-powered waterwheel of thought in there. Until then, sit in the corner and wait until some either speaks to you or spits at you, got it f**ko?

Are they the same Brazilians that were outraged and protested when a Brazilian was killed during a time of terrorism in England, who lived in the very same building as the terrorists, yet stand silently by while their own police force murder children on the streets of Rio?

Or administrators...

http://noticias.terra.com.br/brasil/interna/0,,OI3011365-EI5030,00.html

How many millions will the family of Luiz Carlos Soares da Costa get from the Brazilian Gov? You think there will even be an inquiry? An apology?

How is the pedophilia business? Being arrested lately?

Costa

PS Gringonorreah… If I want the advice of a dullard, I'll slap you on the back of the head and wake up that little peg legged hamster that operates the drool-powered waterwheel of thought in there. Until then, sit in the corner and wait until some either speaks to you or spits at you, got it f**ko?

ha ha ha - You know it's going to be a great day when Brazil's politeness poster boy pops by further propagating the Banana Republic's well earned rep as being educated and civil. What's the problem, ball juggler, you've given up trying to actually make a point? Hurts your brain, eh....

It must be the loneliness living in Canada, the most boring secluded place on earth. Thus, I understand your motives and emotional depression, Mr. ½ Gringo, otherwise the entire world goes by without even noticing you canadians.

Poor devils, they must import almost everything into their country, they produce nothing, no art, no music, no industry (other then american and few), no culture, bad food, cold place, vastness of frozen wasted land. But, a few cute polar bears, that they do have, I admit.

Canadians drink Brazilian coffee from an English teacup and munches a French pastry while sitting on their Danish furniture having just come home from an Italian movie in their German car.

Yes, I fell sorry for you, ½ Gringo, nothing to do but go around saying “Eh” over and over again to people who reply with their own “Eh.” In canada, their civil war was a bar fight that lasted a little over an hour. But they know what to do with all the parts of a buffalo.

Oh Canada, a good place to sleep of course, but not much else… Oh boring boring Canada, your boringness has become cruel and unusual punishment to your native son, Gringonorreah. That ½ Gringo is a moron who personifies Mr. Boring (the canadian in him) with Mr. Arrogant (the american wannabe in him).

How can I summarize Canada? Well, it’s -460°F outside, life as we know it, ceases to exist, but them Canadians start saying "Cold 'nuff for ya?"

OOOOoohhhhh Canada!! ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…….


Costinha

PS Did I mention Canada is boring?

Yesss...you are right "My point about the U.S. military is they are quite capable of pounding any three South American militaries into component"

But you were NOT capable in Vietnam, Somalia, Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan !!!!

Thus having the capability and/or the capacity is ONE thing but DOING IT is.....ANOTHER THING !!!!

Sorry for you idiot but the story is the same as David against Goliath !!!!!
Goliath....DID NOT WIN.....to my knowledge.
And Americans DID NOT OR ARE NOT WINNING in the countries stated above....to my knowledge.

And this is wether you like or not.
After all...FACTS ARE FACTS !!!

This said.....I love the American citizens...not those governing you. and I really mean it !
and I have nothing against Bush in particular. After all, all the important decisions are voted by the politicians lawmakers.

But i can also compliment you when compared to the EU.
Alltogether they have a vast and developed army. And when there was the war in Serbia,Kossovo etc the europeans had not the balls to fight them.
They implored Clinton who first said, correctly, he has no interest in participating. After more begging and begging finally America said OK.
America was at the fore front for the bombings. And the EU were on the side ! smiles
Better yet the EU caressed their navel of how performing they were against, apparently the 4th largest army in the world that Serbia was.
My ass, Serbia never was the world 4th army. They had very very old tanks and planes dating back to WWII !!!!!

2 Goliaths were needed to fight 1 David !!!!

Conclusion : WHAT A SHAME to both the USA Army and the EU army !

Laugh....laugh....laugh !

It must be the loneliness living in Canada, the most boring secluded place on earth. Thus, I understand your motives and emotional depression, Mr. ½ Gringo, otherwise the entire world goes by without even noticing you canadians.

That’s what our politicians think when in attendance at G8 meetings catching a glance of Brazil's representatives on the front lawn whining to come in and be accepted.

As to the rest of your typically ignorant rant, you have no idea what you’re on about as usual. Culture, art, music or technology, for a young nation of only 30 million plus Canada beats Brazil hands down in just about everything other than that little girl’s sport your simple masses cling to called football. Although, Canada’s 14 year olds trample yours in this sport as well.

In the end, I don’t really care what you think of Canada (although I’m pleased you hate it so much that you’ll never set foot there, and that can only be a good thing for us). I’m not a silly chest pounding nationalist. There are indeed things I don’t like about my country, although you've missed the mark. The great thing is; I can leave and have left.

You’re just a complete and total raging idiot, a pathetic ignorant yob, and unfortunately for you, there is no escaping that.

Escape? I am glad you brought that term up… Canada certainly cannot escape the grip and influence of your big brother, just south of the border; you are part of their circle of influence and control. Canada is the United States’ 51st State, population 30 mil composed of ugly pale boring citizens with a funny habit of saying “Eh.”

Brasil beats canada in every economic front… Be it industrial (remember Embraer versus Bombadier… hehehe), agriculture, energy, minerals, technology, cultural, tourism, and military.

Canada is like the scared kid hiding behind his daddy’s legs, that is, his uncle Sam. I don’t like anything the US stands for but Canada, come on now brother… Wake up and smell the roses!

I am totally indifferent to Canada, Canada does not count, Canada has no influences in our lives, Canada does not even register on our radars. Let’s face it, canada is nothing more then an after thought in Brasil. The only thing I mind about canada are the freaking canadian visitors/immigrants asking for directions and annoying us in Rio. I usually tell them to get lost.

Gringonorreah, you are a moron, it’s your legacy, deal with it… Or pardon me, if you are not a moron, you are doing a first-rate impression of one!


Gringonorreah… What makes you such an moron? Is it the flawed family birthing process of the father sucking the infant spawn from the mother's rectum and spitting it headfirst into the tin bath?

Costinha

PS I love You Man… Hehehe

The man with itchy genItalia living north of Italia.

I think you drank some of that moonshine prepared by Gringo. Do you realize that the drink was made from Gringo’s fermenting dirty socks mixed with canadian dry, and aged in his mother’s basement?

I think I am going to throw you back into the gutter where you belong.

Costinha

Costinha, my ignorant synaptically devoid friend, if you think Brazil’s $9,531US GDP per capita versus Canada’s $38,200 means that Brazil is beating Canada under every economic indicator out there, then you’re living in an even more remote and bizarre reality than the one Brazil already provides for. Brazil’s illiteracy rate is 30%, poverty is 40% and the stupidity rate hovers around 80%. Burning the Amazon to plant sugar cane is not going to change that anytime soon, no matter what bulls**t your politicians shovel you.

However, I’ll concede that Brazil does top Canada in a number of other areas though. 43,000 murders per year (3% solved) compared with 600 (90% solved) is quite the accomplishment. Violence, illiteracy, poverty, prostitution, corruption; this is where Brazil excels. True, Canada does not glow prominently on the global radar, and Brazil certainly does; for all the wrong reasons. I’d not be too proud of that. If it were not for the sun, Brazil would be Russia. Only dumber.

Regardless, I told you already I don’t really care what you think of Canada. (I guess I need to write that in crayons for you to understand, or better yet in Brazil, graffiti on the side of a wall). I’ve not lived in Canada for decades, so continue if you will wasting everyone’s time posting nonsense about a Nation that won’t let you in; it doesn’t rankle me in the least. It probably annoys other people trying to actually participate in this blog, but we know that is exactly what you and Abe´s objective is. You’re simply ignorant trolls, aping insults you hear from the tranys you work under.

How hard can it be to say: Costinha regurgitates his food and eats it like Brazil´s national bird the Urubu, he´s a sweaty putrid potato sucker who is jealous of the whimpering crackheads and the ass kissing trany whores who employ him. He is no better than a stringy rotting piece of crap who has delusions about being the horiffic rotting cheeseball in the rat infested reeking sewers of Rio.

Nothing to hard about stupid insults, now how about some real facts and debate or shut the f**k up and let the adults talk… mmmmkkkk

No surprises here either, the fellow (Gringonorreah) is not even a full Gringo, but a half of one…. he is canadian, eh!

Now then, lets start with some real data based on the raw output and wealth of nations… source at (http://www.marketresearch101.c...-economies). Just go to that webpage and take a look… Oh… Oh… Looks like Canada is below Brasil!

Notice that many countries making the list is not due to their industrial might but oil reserves, as the case of Canada. The Canadian economy is really very narrow with major revenues coming from petroleum proceeds, simple as that. Otherwise, Canada would be a poor frozen country full of half-gringos running around saying “eh” to each other.

Moreover, do you know the meaning of per capita? Retard ½ Gringo Master Bates?

You simply mixing oranges with apples to fit your absurd lack of common sense; can not compare 190 million Brasilians versus 30 Million canadian monkeys, can you?

Gringão, I am under the assumption that you know how to calculated per capita… maybe that leap is wrong, do you know what a calculator is?

Nice try wanker

Costinha

PS: ½ Gringo, the turbo idiot running on fumes… I love Man!

Because it's true. Joao, the riberinhos and trabalhadores Rurais in various parts of Para refer to grileiros as "Gauchos". For them, anyone from the south is a "Gaucho", and yes, most gauchos/grileiros in the Amazon pose a more immediate threat to the safety of communities and individual livelihoods than do make-believe US armed soldiers, the Bilderbergs, NGOs or whatever other conspiracy your military and government feeds you to believe.

I have not been to that part of the country for years.Nevertheless, what you say has reason when one thinks about the number of Ministers that come from RS. When they lost the elections, they went and occupied important posts in Brasilia and took their capangas along with them and they in turn bought (or grabbed) lands to plant soy for exports.

I watched the youtube video clip you recommended and I have seen similar ones before.I am not surprised for the simple reason that our current President, during his campaign for his first term, had mentioned several times that he was in favor of building cities in the Amazon. That was the precise reason why he created a "Minister of Cities". I dont know if you recall that the first minister was Olivio Dutra! What came as a surprise to me was that the first Minister for Environment was Marina Silva and she lasted for almost 6 years!! Now we have Carlos Minc who has declared that he does not know much about the Amazon, but was forced to take up the post "because Brazil needs him".He is currently getting on the job training and by the time he finishes it, the hydro electric dams on Rio Madeira, Rio Xingu, etc; would be generating energy.

Who cares about the Indians? We are more interested in watching the "novelas" on our brand new LCD TVs and really don't know where Amazon is.

My trip was good just a little bit long this time---spent a month at anchor in Kuwait waiting for cargo. We went to the usual ports plus Jebel Ali, UAE. Those quys are really putting their oil profits to work. The port and other close areas which I could observe were completely transformed when compared to the last time I was there in the summer of 1999.

Piracy was at its peak in the Gulf of Aden in April and May with over 15 incidents. At least 4 vessels were taken. We did not have any problems however, we were ready for them.

Forrest is right again about resurrecting the IV fleet when he said:

the bigest reaso the are there is the open water piricy going on the the waters off the SA & CA including the islands .

dozens of pravit yatchs have been robed , small cargo ships and the likes are also getting hit .

and as i remember the last 4 joint fleet operactions the USA paid for the fuel for the brasilian navy .

What flags were those 4 vessels flying.Were they prepared like you guys? What happened to those vessels?

This is what Ricardo is proposing. They are "really putting their oil profits to work" and if they do, why cant we? Though we don't have that much of oil, like they have.

A correction on my previous comment:

My trip was good just a little bit long this time---spent a month at anchor in Kuwait waiting for cargo. We went to the usual ports plus Jebel Ali, UAE. Those quys are really putting their oil profits to work. The port and other close areas which I could observe were completely transformed when compared to the last time I was there in the summer of 1999.

My answer:

This is what Ricardo is proposing. They are "really putting their oil profits to work" and if they do, why cant we? Though we don't have that much of oil, like they have.

Sorry about the muck up!

Your "if you think Brazil’s $9,531US GDP per capita versus Canada’s $38,200 "..... is in fact even much worse than that.
Because the Brazilian GDP of US$ 9'500 is PPP adjusted.
In fact their ACTUAL GDP per capita is BELOW US$ 6000.- while Canada has a nearly similar GDP PPP adjusted or actual GDP...per capita.



Ohhhhhh....and Brazilians have been brainwashed by Bin the Crook more than once.
They also believe that Embraer is larger than Bombardier.
When factually the 2007 total revenues of Embraer was US$ 5,2 billion and Bombardier nearly Us$ 18 billion.

They also swallowed the government disinformation (pure lies) that the flex fuel engine was developed by Brazilians engineers, while Brazil has given the award to BOSCH....a German company.

Brazilians have lies, cheats and hides..... printed in their genes !

Their constant "caress their navel" is in fact to hide the well known
Brazilian Inferiority Complexion !

Brazil is and will remain for eternity an under developed country both
mentally and economically.

Just look at how proud and superior Brazilians are with their exports obsession that will total Us$ 1000.- ANNUALLY---PER CAPITA....in 2008 !

Or said in simpler terms, in per capita :
- Half of Thailand!
- 13 times smaller than Canada
- 25 times smaller than Switzerland

But they caress their navel 50 times more than citizens from the 3 above countries !!!!
They better scratch their head and find out why they are so
UNDER PERFORMING !!!!

A self analysis neither Lula cant perform....in view of his University attendance !!!!
Nor the millions of Brazilians who got their SP University degree....in a detergent pack !!!!

Nor the millions of Brazilians who got their SP University degree....in a detergent pack !!!!

Thank God. I was lucky enough to get my degree in a fortune cookie in a Chinese restaurant in Recife

Costa Rica lighten up!

Come up to Canada, and have a cup of Brazilian coffee and donut on me, then come to Alberta and fill your pockets with some tar sands to bring back home as a souvenir, strap on some hockey skates and go for a spin on the ice..and finally I will bring to Montreal to meet some beautiful woman...or no????...

Rio has the most beautiful women in the world, in addition to Maracana Stadium and Flamengo football, plenty on my plate!

You ought to come to Rio and see paradise!

Costa

PS Chronicle Herpes Carrier - CHC, you are the result of a drunk masturbating over a tank full of spawning guppies.

Costa,

Will the BOPE leave me alone if I go?

He's talking about Montreal dear costa, Montreal for gosh sakes. Don't you have a clue just how many beautiful Brasileiras there are / have been in Montreal? Where you think 1/2 and 1/2 made his debut?

I'm glad CH came forward with the right and proper stats again as always. US$6000 per capita for Brazil you say? Works out to be pretty accurate an estimate of what we've wired or hand carried down there to help out a little bit each year. It's just cash so the end effect certainly has not the impact of Shelly's efforts and contributions but hey, who said gringo's are all cheap and cold hearted b_turds looking only after their own or own wallets like the infamous politicos?

Sorry, jon/gringo but here we say Duh? not Eh? Maybe the popularised variant of Henry Winkler fame comes out once in a while but that's because we love to stick our heads in the non-tar sands and live in the past.

you need to run up to
host van dike just to the right of ST Thomas and left of Tortola & north of St Jhons
head to Foxeys bar for the full moon madness parity that will be thursday your time dont drink the tea at the door it is made of the local mushroons , you know the ones that grow from under the cow patties .

I have run into 27 small boats looking to take over the Pale Horse but with all the fire power I have on board the battle only last only about 45 seconds ,
we have found if you take out there motors they will toss there guns overbord and want help so we leave them adrift on the ocean .
as any country you are off the coast of will not send there navy out to pick them up as they would have to put them in jail and they would loose there money !!!!!!!!!!!!

one way they are hitting yatches is to act like they are broke down you go by to help them and take them on board then they pull knives and guns rob you if you are luckey they leave .

a person i know was taken off his ship off the coast of OMAN held for 6 months till the shipping company paid them off

that is one of the reasons the fleet is on watch to keep it from getting bad up and down the waters of SA,CA ,NA and think brasil does not even patrol there own coast for drug smuglers , and other contraban

Bobão… Long time no see!
written by ..., July 16, 2008
How is the pedophilia business? Being arrested lately?

Costa

You obviously have me confused with E Harmony(Pedophilia)!

If it were not for the sun, Brazil would be Russia. Only dumber.

I spit my coffee all over the keyboard on that one!!!!!!!

Your "if you think Brazil’s $9,531US GDP per capita versus Canada’s $38,200 "..... is in fact even much worse than that.
Because the Brazilian GDP of US$ 9'500 is PPP adjusted.

Now there’re ya´ve gone and dunnit, Ch.c! It was bad enough pea-brains couldn’t wrap his mind around a simple economic principle written in layman’s terms, but then you’ve gone and complicated things with the purchasing power parity. I bet you just exploded his wee-tiny stink filled skull with that one. Nice job.

Costa, have a looksy to this list of Nation´s and their GDP per capita (PPP US$) http://hdrstats.undp.org/indicators/5.html

This list from 2007 has Brazil behind Serbia. SERBIA!
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html

BTW Costa, the link YOU posted claims 99% literacy in Brazil. I’m still laughing.

and Brazilians have been brainwashed by Bin the Crook more than once.

Brainwashed, CH.c? Costa and Abe are the government’s SOCK PUPPETS. They question nothing, believe everything and worse, they spend their waking hours on-line pushing the government’s propaganda and lies. In terms of analytic abilities, I’ve stepped in puddles that were deeper than these two.

I have not been to that part of the country for years.Nevertheless, what you say has reason when one thinks about the number of Ministers that come from RS. When they lost the elections, they went and occupied important posts in Brasilia and took their capangas along with them and they in turn bought (or grabbed) lands to plant soy for exports.

Joao, sadly in some areas it is literally a war zone (did you see the reports from Thailandia at the beginning of this year?), and this, IMHO, is one of the reasons your government wishes to control information coming from that part of the nation, OR, to create a new villain to side track attention. The government has proven over the decades that it can’t control the mobs, coronels, pistoleiros or the grileiros in the region (in some cases the politicians are one in the same: Jader?) and I opine that they don’t want to even try anymore. They want people in the south to believe that it is an international conspiracy behind much of the region’s madness and not a national crisis begat of political ineptness and social apathy.

Who cares about the Indians? We are more interested in watching the "novelas" on our brand new LCD TVs and really don't know where Amazon is.

And how sad is that?

Come up to Canada, and have a cup of Brazilian coffee and donut on me, then come to Alberta and fill your pockets with some tar sands to bring back home as a souvenir, strap on some hockey skates and go for a spin on the ice..and finally I will bring to Montreal to meet some beautiful woman...or no????...

Jon, Costa hates Canada because he can’t drink at a boteca with his shirt off, scratching his nuts with one hand, and caressing his fat manboobs with the other, screaming about the Evil American Empire while breaking periodically from fondling his nuts to slap some tranny on the ass as she walks by looking for her mark. That makes the civility of Canada boring to most Cariocas. That is also why many civil Brazilians despise many cariocas, too. I can´t say all becasue in 6 years I´ve actually met one or two that were OK.

Your "if you think Brazil’s $9,531US GDP per capita versus Canada’s $38,200 "..... is in fact even much worse than that.
Because the Brazilian GDP of US$ 9'500 is PPP adjusted.
In fact their ACTUAL GDP per capita is BELOW US$ 6000.- while Canada has a nearly similar GDP PPP adjusted or actual GDP...per capita.

All this stuff really has to do with inflation. It probably has strong correlations with the growth of an economy (per capita GDP) but it really is not a measure of wealth. U.S. or Canadian wages just rose over time with the average rise in the price of goods.

The big numbers just look impressive.

Gringo,

Re: Costa

Je comprende...

"Forrest is right again about resurrecting the IV fleet...."

The resurrection of the IV fleet in this case was not enough, since "...the restart of (the) IV Fleet (came) without any ships and equipment...."

That said, a resolution was passed recently in the UN which would allow other countries naval vessels to enter the waters of somalia in pursuit of the pirates. The passage of the resolution was an achievement but I am still confuse about the naval resources part.

During the numerous times that I have transited the Gulf of Aden I have yet to encounter a naval vessel from any country. One would think that they would be all over that area because of the vital importance of that body of water to international commerce and the amount of ships that transit that area to and from the Suez Canal and Red Sea ports. Hopefully I will see some difference when I return.

"What flags were those 4 vessels flying.Were they prepared like you guys? What happened to those vessels?"

One was a japanese tanker, a french cruising yacht, a spanish fishing vessel and a German cargo vessel.
I have no idea of their state of preparedness, we carry four armed exbritish military personnel plus a complement of hardware to outfit most of the ship officers aboard my vessel. Besides that we put in effect antipiracy measures before we enter the Suez Canal south bound and increase these measures before we exit the Red Sea into the Gulf of Aden.
The vessels were eventually released after a ransom was paid. Those that took the french vessel are now rotting in a french jail. After they were paid and the vessel was released, they were picked up by french special forces in the desert of Somalia.

"This is what Ricardo is proposing. They are "really putting their oil profits to work" and if they do, why cant we? Though we don't have that much of oil, like they have."

The answer to that question is one that I have been trying to figure out for quite awhile now. Before I went to work, we were debating why the price of gasoline was so high in Brazil since most of the oil to produce it was from brazilian fields. At that time I said and still believe that petrobras and the government should not be in the business of providing subsidies because they provide a false sense of relief and the pain caused when they are eventually lifted is worse than the gradual price increase now.

Part of my conclusion about what is lacking in Brazil's politics and politicians is country above self and vision. Do not get me wrong, Brazil's politicians are not the only ones who struggle with this, but in Brazil it is an epidemic....so much resources, lots of corruption, no vision and an uneducated mass. All of these leads to a country that always can but could never achieve greatness.

By the way, when I get to my country I will be giving some of the politicians a tongue lashing on the issues of leadership and achieving greatness. My country is at a cross road right now in regards to heinous crime, something unheard of a few short years ago.

Gringão says “Costa hates Canada,” what a dickhead! I don’t hate Canada, never had and probably never will… What is there to hate about Canada, really? Nothing… absolutely nothing, because Canada is simply immaterial.

On the other hand, listening to your senseless uber-babble verbiage more inflated than your dad’s blow-up doll of Denis Rodman, that’s tough!

Canada economic dependency on the US is of paramount importance to Canada, not the US. The United States has provided Canada with much of its investment capital, technology and know-how. Canada is the American 51st State. The US imports only low-tech raw materials from Canada, that is, petroleum and fisheries. If Canada did not have any oil, Canadians would be living in Igloos with an economy comparable to Uganda’s.

One more thing to take into account, the current Brasilian volume index does not account for the recent Oil reserves finds, altogether 5 times greater than all Canadian combined reserves.

Now then, Canadian boys and girls, go back to your respective corners and remain quiet until spoken to, or else… smack!

Gringão … You are a strong argument against cloning!

Costinha

PS I Love You Man

"you need to run up to
host van dike just to the right of ST Thomas and left of Tortola & north of St Jhons
head to Foxeys bar for the full moon madness parity that will be thursday your time dont drink the tea at the door it is made of the local mushroons , you know the ones that grow from under the cow patties."

I have to get over there one day and check the bar out. The last time I was here some friends invited me for a weekend sailing trip over there, but I was to busy taking care of business here. Since I spend more time in Brazil when I am not working whenever I am here my time is filled with activities.
This time I will not have anytime either since in about 10 days I will be on my way to my country, St. Kitts.

Piracy is increasing all over and for me there is only one way to face it, fire with fire.

Costa Rica,

Where the hell do you get your statistics..from the bottom of detergent packs!

Canada has the second largest oil reserves in the world, some argue the largest, but proven about 275 billion barrels. Venezula may be even larger when their heavy oil is factored in. Just do some basic research before you jack...sorry..spout off!!

The sentence below should be:

Part of my conclusion about what is lacking in Brazil's politics and politicians is not placing country above self and vision.

I think what you meant was Jacking Off Nerd, am I right JON?

It must be a canadian thing… twist figures around. It is that bitter cold forcing your nuts way up into your body, causing irreversible brain damage.

J.O.N., “Dry Ginger Ale” isn't enough reason to hate Canada. Canada, American 51st State… I say, let Bush invade it and get it over with! And what is it with that silly flag, the uninspired boring leaf!

Starting this year, 2008, all new cars in Canada are be equipped with the following warning: Objects In Mirror Are Dumber Than They Appear.

Costinha

PS Did I mention how Canada is so boring?

I just finish readimg Ricardo C. Amaral piece about renationalizing petrobras. Before I read the comments, I have to say both he and I came to the same conclusion as follows:

"Part of my conclusion about what is lacking in Brazil's politics and politicians is not placing country above self and vision. Do not get me wrong, Brazil's politicians are not the only ones who struggle with this, but in Brazil it is an epidemic....so much resources, lots of corruption, no vision and an uneducated mass. All of these leads to a country that always can but could never achieve greatness."

I do not think renationalization of petrobras is the answer right now maybe sometime in the future. That said, there is enough profits being generated by petrobras now to get started on his economic plan if politicians with vision are willing to put brazil's interest first.

Although I understood what Ricardo is trying to say in the article, he needs to stop spending so much time in his articles on the United States and its problems and instead concentrate on Brazil. Using key points as examples of mistakes Brazil should not make is one thing a continual discourse on the US and its problems is another. The article is suppose to be about fixing Brazil.
In my opinion, the article was disjointed as if it was written in a rush. He did not clearly explain why petrobras should be renationalized and why renationalization would benefit Brazil.

On another topic, it is goog to see that as an economist he has realized that there is no such thing as pure capitalism. Maybe there is another social democrat in the making. Now back to the comments.

Hi,

I just got to read all your comments made today and thanks.You are absolutely tight about Ricardo´s article and I hope he gets to see your comments.I have mentioned to him before not to dwell too much on the problems the U.S. has, but to concentrate more on Brazilian problems. I hope he joins us to make the discussions more interesting.

Part of my conclusion about what is lacking in Brazil's politics and politicians is not placing country above self and vision. Do not get me wrong, Brazil's politicians are not the only ones who struggle with this, but in Brazil it is an epidemic....so much resources, lots of corruption, no vision and an uneducated mass. All of these leads to a country that always can but could never achieve greatness.

This is something Ricardo should write and discuss with us. There is another Brazilian writer by name Augusto Zimmermann, who is based in Australia and writes good articles on this issue. Zimmermann does not participate in this forum, but Ricardo does.

By the way, when I get to my country I will be giving some of the politicians a tongue lashing on the issues of leadership and achieving greatness. My country is at a cross road right now in regards to heinous crime, something unheard of a few short years ago.

That is the proper way of demanding action from the "politicos". Unfortunately in Brazil, the educated middle class is clueless as what to do and is becoming submissive to the "Elected Rulers". I think that we are going to pay a heavy price for our indifference in a few years time.

Joao, sorroy to go so analytic / paranoid on you but why is it the your post is the second to make "politicos" a quote in this thread? You are already there so the "price" will be not so heavy for you as compared to those to be there "in a few years time". My surmise is you are either riding or hiding something and in either case not really doing anything. "Submissive" is the only course open for the middle class unless forrest et al return all clandestino like and equip a few good men to clean out the house and dig a new well properly distanced from the outhouse occupied by more than a few incumbants. Ditto for you that have reached and become comfortable with your ultimate level of impotency.

Hi Simpleton,]

Joao, sorroy to go so analytic / paranoid on you but why is it the your post is the second to make "politicos" a quote in this thread?

No need to apologize for going analytic or paranoid on me. I can not help associate the word "politcos" with "ladrões". As you might know, in this country, voting is obligatory. First you have to put up with hours of "propaganda eleitoral" where all the candidates talk about the same thing. "Educação", "Saude", "Segurança", "Lazer", etc; Year after year, the same crap is mentioned and bombarded into all the homes. The voters are clueless about what the candidates are talking about.Then they vote for one who is TVgenic (if at all the word exists) and LIES a lot.Once he or she gets elected, he has only one thing in mind: How to better his life and that of his family (Remember, most of the candidates are jobless and they are looking for a fat salary). His voters´interests are the least of his concern. May be in your country, it is different, but here it is a fact.

You are already there so the "price" will be not so heavy for you as compared to those to be there "in a few years time". My surmise is you are either riding or hiding something and in either case not really doing anything.

I am not riding nor hiding anything. I am saying that we are breeding a bunch of lotus eaters who fall easy prey to the propaganda. Now that you goaded me into commenting further, I think we should cultivate Lotus in the Amazon to feed the world, instead of sugarcane to produce Ethanol to export. Coming back to main topic: Unless we think about a feasible plan for the country, taking into considerations several factors like demography, technology, geography, etc; (ask a first year MBA student, he will elaborate more), our LACK of planning is going to reflect negatively in a few years time. Believe me.

"Submissive" is the only course open for the middle class unless forrest et al return all clandestino like and equip a few good men to clean out the house and dig a new well properly distanced from the outhouse occupied by more than a few incumbants.

No comments! Don´t dig my mouth further

Ditto for you that have reached and become comfortable with your ultimate level of impotency.

Never ever become too comfortable with anything. The life is a challenge and always question the wrongdoings. Or have you forgotten what Dalai Lama preaches? In case you did, let me repeat: "Assume responsibilities and live dangerously" Or was it Sun Tzu? Clue me in please.

If you have further questions, please do not hesitate to address to Forrest or better still Ch.c

I have a question for you.

Why you never have something good to say about Brazil?

Everything that you say about Brazil is negative and bad.

Why do you hate my country so much?

In my opinion you are a real pain in the ass.

.

and things will change (or not).

Ricardo, you must not focus on ch's lack of positive comments re: nossa pais. He is not a real pain'na, he is a realist arse.

Glad I could get you stimulated Joao. Appreciate your focus but I'm not sure what you mean by "don't dig my mouth further". Was that a typo "a" for "ur"// or was that an ohh well, hmmm? Nothing on T Sun, what's the Sung Meoung Moon situation these days? Still thriving? Made it sul/oeste to your local?

Since your dastardly long lived files on everyone would likely broach me, I'll dredge this up in order to prevent your punch the lights out line - I've been accused of not stepping forward and taking responsibility - but only in Brasil!! (fitting in is good but not my forte - fine line difference between reveling in one's uniqueness and not giving a rats)

been there many times in my other boat none sence i built this one .

yes open gun fire is the right reply to all thoes who wish to do harm to another vessel and its people .gun power and salt water do mix.

what part of St Kitts you from ? how about Neves from there !!!!
getting over populated yet .

spent more time on St Lucia built the oil termnial there in the 80 there for 6 months , place was very nice , but know to much drugs and thieft going on .

the UN only said you could chase them into waters not patrol the waters and the navy have to stay out 100 miles we dive in close so they can see out lights when they come out well its on .

gives me and some of my old nam eara buddies something to do after all its not a civil matter any more .

what is the name of ship you are on and who do you work for ///

we keep the SSB on to the BBC most the time but listen on the 8 band

Although I understood what Ricardo is trying to say in the article, he needs to stop spending so much time in his articles on the United States and its problems and instead concentrate on Brazil. Using key points as examples of mistakes Brazil should not make is one thing a continual discourse on the US and its problems is another.

written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 18, 2008
I have a question for you.

Why you never have something good to say about Brazil?

Everything that you say about Brazil is negative and bad.

Why do you hate my country so much?

But that's the way it always is. One can never point to so-called "negative" statistics or realities concerning Brazil without "hating brazil" or being a "brazil hater".

As long as the fingerpointing continues and the masses refuse to take responsibility nothing will ever change....for the better anyway.

Trying to "justify" the unfortunate realities at hand by showing their existance in other parts of the world does nothing but further the acceptance of these realities already so deeply engrained and accepted.

Accountability.

Now, who wants to take some wagers on whether D. Dantas will ever see the inside of a jail cell for more than a few 24 hours again in his life?

Why don’t you go back to where ever you came from? Yoy buttass ugly arrogant american…

Correction:

But that's the way it always is. One can never point to so-called "negative" statistics or realities concerning the United States without "hating the USA" or being a "usa hater".

There… Costa

once again c**ksta. Everyone always has negative things to say about the U.S. They've been doing it for many decades and we accept it. It's ones right, especially if they live there.

But you keep on keepin' on. Keep pointing those fingers.

Costa Rica,

You spend too much of your time downloading all that questionable material...your brain is mush and your hands are twisted and gnarled

so why do millinos of people a year spend there familys fortune to get there by hook or crook .

walk across the deserts , getting robed , raped , killed by the ones they paid too get them to the promised land .

just at a chance they may get to live in a place even the wrong have more rights than the free have in there own lands .

that doing the things that they have to do is better pay than the slave wages they have at home .

go there one day and look at the face of a person from any where who has made it , no more blans expresion on there facese

That’s me baby… Now then, do you want to smell my finger?

Your clue meter is now reading zero; lets see if this registers: Get Lost, canadian monkey!

Costa

PS Canada sucks!

in fighting in the leadership
over spending by the leadership
the peoples miss trust of the goverment
funding of other countries
oversized military spending
unable to control its own borders

Since your English is so miserably bad, I think you could express yourself better by farting instead!

Yours truly,

Costinha

Costa,

MANGE LA MERDE!!

MANGE LA MERDE to you 2!

Jon Boy, Va te faire enculer… Me faut retourner à la pute qui m'a accouchée! On t'a bercé trop près du mur? Hehehe

Au revoir,

Costinha

PS Canada, LA MERDE!

"There is another Brazilian writer by name Augusto Zimmermann, who is based in Australia and writes good articles on this issue."

I read a few of his articles here before. Hopefully one day he will participate in the discussions.

At this moment I would like to address Ricardo on a very important issue that should have been a corner stone of his plan--education.

After reading the comments, I got the answer to the education issue and other questions that came to mind as I was reading Ricardo's article. Shelly should not have had to ask about education for readers to find out that the profits from petrobras would be used solely to finance the plan projects and not the other budgets of the government. That said, I like the plan except the fact that education was left out of it.

The education of brazilians should be a big part of this plan. At this moment in Brazil there are quite a few companies, petrobras included, who are not only employers but also educators because of the state of Brazil's educational system. These employers took on this role because it is in their best interest if they want to remain competitive and continue to grow.
The proposed plan will add thousands of people to Brazil's workforce. Brazil does not have, and under the present educational system will not have a qualified workforce in order for the proposed plan to be viable or successful. One cannot continue to depend on companies to take on the role of educators and if the plan is implemented they will not be able to do so because of the expence. Thus, these companies will look else where for qualified workers.
Brazil need an educated work force at all levels for this plan to work. The plan is the perfect place to completely reform the educational system through out Brazil without state and federal interference, plus the added advantage of a stable budget.

The future for all Brazilians can be a bright one if Ricardo's plan is embraced, but that future is also dependent upon total educational reform taking place and being implemented at the same time.

"what part of St Kitts you from?"

I am from the first village located west of the war memorial which is on the main waterfront road before the Ocean Terrance Inn. From my home it is about an easy 15 minutes walk eastward to the hotel.

Both islands are not over populated but the population is growing. The main problem right now is the 17 to 25 year olds who despite of a first class educational system have lost their way. 4 of them were sentenced to death this past Tuesday for murder. Now to see if the government will carry out the sentence.

At this moment I would like to address Ricardo on a very important issue that should have been a corner stone of his plan--education.

I have reposted your recent comments under Ricardo´s article in the link:

http://www.brazzil.com/article...obras.html

I suggest we move to that link to discuss about his plan. I am sure that, if in the meanwhile the IV fleet decides to invade us to get our oil, Forrest and Bo will forewarn and give us its EDA and ETA on the Brazilian coast!

Thanks for reposting my comments. I await Ricardo´s response.

Now, who wants to take some wagers on whether D. Dantas will ever see the inside of a jail cell for more than a few 24 hours again in his life?

Nobody in his/her right mind will take up any wager,Bo. He is the Brazilian version of Carlos Slim

After reading the last edition of Veja today it looks like he had his hand in absolutely everything!!

After reading the last edition of Veja today it looks like he had his hand in absolutely everything!!

Bo, I have been following the news about this guy since 1997 and the story of the "privatização" da TELEBRAS. This guy was involved in the sale of Brasil Telecom to Oi/Telemar. Carlos Slim is the major shareholder of EMBRATEL that was bought originally by MCI-WorldCom and subsequently sold to Carlos.

Look at the new owners of Oi/Telemar/Brasil Telecom!! No way, DD is going to spend any time in jail.

Talking about "Veja", I hope you get to read the blog of Reinaldo Azevedo. He would tell you some interesting stories (and the commentators too). Stay tuned for further developments

from trinadad to the Bahamas porto rico is the worst by far .
ecept if they do something wrong there they quick get on a plane
and hide out in the states till it goes away .
its drugs in the lower islands like trindad , and beque
granada is more the pot and coke sales to toutrist .
ST lucia well to many young drunks wanting instant self gradafaction and no way to get it .
the islands with the more tourtist and tour boats have the worst time of it .
with no real way to get them good jobs and pay most will become domed to a very sad life .
i tell them all the time to try to get cruis ship jobs and to me it should be put into some kind of rule that the carbeine ships should have peoples from the islands they visit .
that would give some of them a chance to a good life .

last time i was on your island was may 2003 was there about 3 weeks
water was nice and clear christmass winds were gone

later next year we will be back on the adlantic side will stop by if you are at home

Look at the new owners of Oi/Telemar/Brasil Telecom!!

I thought it was just a namechange at first when Telemar changed to Oi. But I've noticed a significant different in their customer service and unfortunately, if believable, it has gotten worse!

And who is this guy???? My buddy, a paulista, told me he broke the Rio exchange once! These guys have sick money. No way they'll ever do time in Brazil.

And who is this guy???? My buddy, a paulista, told me he broke the Rio exchange once! These guys have sick money. No way they'll ever do time in Brazil.

Najib Nahas? He is one of the favorite villains (among half a dozen we have) for the Brazilian public at large. His comes very handy to play the role of a villain, when the media want to deviate the attention of the public from real issues. Nahas is really an investor that plays by the book and very similar to our "Opportunistic" investor Ch.c! When they arrest him, there is a big commotion and when they let him go, there is no publicity. Your paulista friend´s info about Nahas breaking the Rio exchange is a news to me. You know as well as I do, that the stock exchanges here are a big joke and depend on inside info. But compared to DD, Nahas is a small fish.

Even smaller a fish is Celso Pitta who is another villain and nobody wants to elect him for any political post (That way DD is smarter not to run for any elected office and to certain extent Nahas also)

There is a hue and cry about Salvatore Caciolla being brought back from Monoco. He was also supposed to have "broken" our central bank.

When the whole circus is going on, the merger of Oi and Brasil Telecom will be consummated smoothly, in spite of the current legislation NOT permitting it!

Was that a typo "a" for "ur"/

No Simp, I meant "further". If I had typed "farther", you would have jumped at the opportunity to remove my tonsils or conduct an oesophagectomy

Vai pra p**a que te pariu Vai dar meia-hora de Bunda!

Você é burro de dar dó

how was that can you understand that

Yoashol Father - stimulated once again - watch out for trolls!

Sorry, forrest, if you want to get right strait to the lack of brains of heshe .., you will have to do so phonetically not orally!

.., is not near any strait, heshe is probably not straight either.

CH, who's your tranny?

What is that? I think you tried to hurt my feelings… Did you little devil you?

Vai pra p**a que te pariu Vai dar meia-hora de Bunda!

Você é burro de dar dó

how was that can you understand that


Sorry, I can’t make it out… Not English, not Portuguese, maybe Papua-New Guinean? Ohhh… I see, you are trying to trick me again, huh? I told you before I don’t speak dyslexic!

Let me guess, your wife did it for you… two pees in the pot! She is just as illiterate in Portuguese as you are in English. How do you people communicate? I think you both are entitled to handicap parking… A new category for you: Dumb & Dumber.

Or go to the United Nations and file for a new language, Bo(bão), the pedophiliac, will baby sit your kids while you are gone!

Costinha

"later next year we will be back on the adlantic side will stop by if you are at home."

You are welcome to stop by anytime. Hopefully I will be there.

Both the re-activation of the IV Fleet and some reactions to it are typical of people who cannot understand properly the rapid wind changes the world is undergoing before our very eyes. Surely it's not a coincidence that the IV Fleet and the US Africa Command have been activated in the time frame of less than one year. Obviously, there's a lot of people in the Pentagon and the constellation of think-tanks that support the US military-industrial complex that still think that in the future the natural resources will continue to be grabbed by military means. And there are a lot of people here that believe it. Well, they are all wrong. As one can see from the examples of Afghanistan, Iraq, the Israel-Hizbollah clash, North Korea and now Iran, military might is becoming less and less useful as a foreign policy instrument. So, the establishment of an energy security framework for the urgently needed world economic reconstruction will require real cooperation instead of confrontation. The sooner people recognize it the better.
Obviously, the world won't become the Earthly Paradise and such new reality does not mean that efficient and updated Armed Forces will become a thing of the past. On the contrary, their availability will always be a good incentive for cooperation. So, even if the Brazilian offshore resources cannot be grabbed manu militari (the logistic troubles would be unsurmountable), it doesn't dispense Brazil with having a convincing naval deterrent force (not with aircraft carrier attack groups, a dozen submarines would suffice).

Has or is the US just taking oil from any place with out paying for it ???????

IF you have some sort of proof pleas post it as i and others are still under the

old rule we pay of oil from all not with arms , but with money .

if the US was just taking it from the middle east why then are they paying

over 4 bucks a gallon ??????

to take the natural resorce of a country one would have to in slave the nation .

like blegum did the the congo years back .
like hitler did in romaina
and russia did to all there so called states

i have not seen any proof the US has done any of this


costa

you must be able to read all i write as it offends you to a point

of using the lowest form of printed language there is

military might is becoming less and less useful as a foreign policy instrument.

This is a common mistake people make. Military might is not policy by another means, it is a social institution that perform social functions beyond giving people jobs, at least in the USA.

It allows the uncultured to have profession, the poor to have a "social upgrade", the violent, disturbed and antisocial to vent their violence without harming society, the unemployable to have a job, etc.

The military-industrial complex is much more than just business. It is a way returning tax payer money to the people and balance economy.

Without it they would have to think about what to do with all those people. Surely there would be social unrest and other problems.

In the land of the "free" they are just as free as a drug addict is to decide if he takes the next shot or not. Without the militarism the American economy would collapse.

Ironic, isn't it? They will continue until they destroy themselves.

In the current incarnation of the USA, peace is impossible. There will never be peace, because in order to keep their country going they need war.

Without wars the economical shock would be devastating.

There will be no peace while the USA exists

You sound like Ayotolla Komeinni. "USA is the Great Satan"

with out education if you are told something long enough you think it is true .

the time you should start to worrie about the USA is when the mexicans quit coming to the US

and all the brasilians leave as brasil is a better place to live .

at that point will other countries be taken back by all the mass ileagle amercian people coming to there countries demanding there rights ?????? that were given to there people in the USA

its interesting to hear some people from brazil, worrying if the united states is going to attack them , when farc is raping brazil every day...

besides various reports of blatent across border kidnappings near the amazon, the farc ties to huge drug dealing gangs in rio and sao paulo, is decimating these cites .

the biggest traficar in rio, fernado beiramar , was caught directly with farc. a recent notice in the news confirmed two leutenents of beira mar were observed doing more business with farc..

a recent report on brazil tv news, linced the pcc from sao paulo to doing business with farc...

the horible bus burnings and street attacks really went on the rise after beira mar was caught. the pcc went on a terrorist rampage shooting police at will in the streets. you dont think these gangs arent getting ideas from farc along with guns and dope ?

i see the faces of people in rio, now. they are tight and worried on a day to day basis. worried some horible street violence will erupt. while there are many factions involved in the arms and drug wars in brazil, farc is in the forfront of contributing to the urban crises in brazil.

while so much energy is invested in rising up to scream about the boogy man , the united states, there are much deeper factors contributing to the urban decay in brazil's cities.

the idea that the united states is going to come down to invade and militarily take over recourses in brazil , while being some interesting parlor chatter, is really a long way from reality. i guess its more interesting to chew over that than face the huge violent street reality that is ruining rio, one of the greatest cities in the world, as well as sao paulo...

right now to most people in the world RIO and SP are grate city from the air only
as the killings from the drug gangs in thoes 2 city are well know world wide .

when a person in jail can control the city by a phone call from jail well i would have to say the police have lost control of the city ,

and it is not just there in RIO and SP it is all over brazil any place you have poor uneduacated people to use


drugs to escape there lives through the sale or use well you have a fight on your hands.

when the police help the drug gangs , and political people and judges help the honest
cops and people are the ones killed .

no the US will never go after brazil oil by using the navy , they will stop the boats running from the amazon out to the ocean to transport drugs south and across the ocean to the MED and EU and vice versa .

as they are doing on the west coast from Pure and ecudor heading north to the US and over seas to other countries .

Who Is the Dumbest of them All… That’s Florist A$$ Brown!

Costinha

Hehehe

in spite of the horible violence, rio is still one of the most incredible cities anywhere...

that city has so much soul dripping from it. people still flock from all over the world...

the culture, the food, the beach life...it doesnt get much better.

i truly hope they find a solution to the problems...as for me, ill spend my money to fly to rio before id go to paris, london . miami, new york ( that is a close one, i love new york also)etc

...(continue) with the blessing from our President Al Mula bin Lula!

I guess paranoia and nationalism sells very easily, and Brazilians like it! Read below, I guess news such as the one below, don't make the headlines.

US nuke carrier in S. Atlantic exercises with Argentine Navy
The huge nuclear powered aircraft carrier USS George Washington has reached Argentine waters ready to begin annual naval exercises with its Argentine counterpart in the South Atlantic
USS George Washington
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The 2008 edition, named Gaucho-Gringo is described by the Buenos Aires media as an excellent opportunity for the Argentine navy Super Etandards to operate from a carrier since the country no longer has the 25 de Mayo and is limited to joint practices with the Brazilian navy carrier Sao Paulo.

This is the third time in 20 years that the US Navy participates with nuclear carriers, (Kitty Hawk and Ronald Reagan) in exercises with South American navies.

This year’s Unitas exercise edition begun in Brazilian waters, with the participation of Brazilian, US and Argentine vessels and now continues with Argentina playing the leading role.

In Buenos Aires the fact naval exercises are taking place is seen as a significant improvement in military relations with the US, which foundered when Washington insisted on the President Nestor Kirchner administration that Argentina should support and approve special congressional immunity for US troops.

This caused the freeze of US/Argentine military exercises in Argentina during several years. The USS George Washington and its support task force will not be docking in Argentine ports precisely to avoid having to request special immunity for US military personnel.

USS George Washington belongs to the Nimitz class, has a displacement of 97.000 tons and carries 90 aircrafts and a crew of 6.250.

On service since 1992, the nuclear powered vessel is 333 meters long, 78 wide and its superstructure is 74 meters high.

Chilean vessels will join the Gaucho-Gringo South Atlantic exercises.

However Uruguay will again be absent since the Socialist oriented current administration is contrary to military exercises with the US. However Uruguayan navy vessels and aircrafts have participated in the US backed Panamax exercises in the Caribbean.

The Uruguayan Navy is scheduled to hold naval exercises, --“Aguas Claras”--, with its Brazilian counterpart in both countries waters. Later in the year Brazil and Uruguay will join South Africa in “Atlasur” exercises off the African coast. By then Uruguay expects to have two new refurbished frigates acquired from the Portuguese navy.

http://www.mercopress.com/vernoticia.do?id=13330&formato=HTML

The US will be too preoccupied with a new commander in chief in a few months and the prospect of billions of barrels of oil in it's own arctic frontier

Shelly is just like a doorknob - everybody gets a turn!

The irritating, self-worshipping, mattress-soiling, deplorable wench, whose features resembled a fossilized rectum.

Slow Down, You'll Turn Your Milk To Butter.

Costinha

PS: Hehehe… KKkkkkkkk

The biggest threat to Brazil are its citizens. Especially those who think it is everyone else's fault-Brazilians like to blame everyone for their misery. When we stop playing the "blame-game", maybe I will take my country seriously. Corrupt politicians and failed governments all blame others when their own country is in ruins, when they have failed to keep up with the promises. Argentina did, Venezuela, Bolivia, Chile, Brazil, ..., BUT we continue to have illegal mass immigration to the US and Europe. South American countries continues to be backwards, a safe heaven for corrupt politicians and the like. To me South America has become more of a "communist club", where poor countries are in a "arms race"-playing the game "who has the biggest dick?", when most of its people are going hungry.

If the US wants to attack Brazil, it will do so and there is nothing that we can do about it. Buying junk from Russia will do nothing against the US mighty armed forces, we should defend ourselves against rogue SA states and terrorist organizations, which ASP has pointed out, are ruining our cities.


It goes with the old saying: “You can’t have your cake and eat it too”

Have I got the “HEIFTER ON HOOFS” for you… We named her Shelly, the Ugly Duckling.

Besides having a BIG mouth, we feed her live maggot larvae, her beef has a bitter taste to it, her hide is rough and smelly, but she is quite a humping breeder. If you looking for a reproducer, this cow is for you!

Shelly is not particular and will get banged by any bull in the herd, the wild thing is not quite broken yet and has a bad disposition. I categorize her as “Grade A Heifer.”

Costinha

PS Serious Buyers Only

c**ksuckerstinha,

Have I got the “HEIFTER ON HOOFS” for you… We named her Shelly, the Ugly Duckling.

My 5 year old son can come up with more intelligent jokes than you-certainly you are CH.C's retarded brother, suffering from serious in-breading issues.

Latest News From the NSF:

According to the National Science Foundation, c**ksuckerstinha's DNA has been studied and shown to have severe in-breading. According to the latest research findings, c**ksucker will not be a future breeding candidate. The NSF will spare humans and animals from coming into contact with c**ksucker's DNA by performing a vasectomy on the patient. The good news is that women can be sure that the next generation will have better genes, with more overall fitness. Brazilian women will rest assured that in-breading depression will not occur and that his poor sperm motility and forward progression will forever be kept in a frozen sperm bank for future research into DNA damage, borderline personality disorder and other mental illness."

Shelly... A Penny For Your Thoughts, And $20 To Act It Out!

Luv U

Costa

According to the Nasty Stupid Female, Shelly's DNA has been studied and shown to have a severe odor. According to the latest research findings, SHELLY will not suck any future breeding candidate. The NSF will spare humans and animals from coming into contact with Shelly's DNA by performing a vasectomy in her rectum. The good news is that the b..i..t..c..h.. can be sure that the next generation will have better genes, with more overall IQ. American women will rest assured that in-breading depression will not occur and that her poor infectious c.u.n.t. progression will forever be kept in a frozen septic tank for future research into DNA mutation, borderline personality disorder and other mental illness."

Luv U 2

Costa

fi brasil was not so anil rentintav
the US fleet would put into port there as they did years before the
military take over .

think over 8000 militayr personal spending money in SP and RIO

but then again think if you pissed them off as brasil would
by theft , or cops ,
maybe even costa trying to over charg for his mom and sisters

According to the Nasty Stupid Female, Shelly's DNA has been studied and shown to have a severe odor. According to the latest research findings, SHELLY will not suck any future breeding candidate. The NSF will spare humans and animals from coming into contact with Shelly's DNA by performing a vasectomy in her rectum. The good news is that the b..i..t..c..h.. can be sure that the next generation will have better genes, with more overall IQ. American women will rest assured that in-breading depression will not occur and that her poor infectious c.u.n.t. progression will forever be kept in a frozen septic tank for future research into DNA mutation, borderline personality disorder and other mental illness."

Hehehe, copy and paste moron? You could not come up with something clever, had to use MY IDEA, poor old you!

maybe even costa trying to over charg for his mom and sisters

Ahh, that really does explain a lot!

so long as you're not looking for something that has any backbone / stiffness to it and can't manage one tongue well nor lip service where due. Why pay gringo for IT's mom or sister?

Conversing with the Ital submariners that put into port was interesting. Didn't help the economy much but since no one had much interest in them like in yesteryears the cost penalty in future b_turds wasn't so high.

Do you have these “brain farts” frequently? I'm blonde. What's your excuse?

And quit wearing that silly sign in your forehead, Space for Rent.

Shelly baby, I promise I will respect you in the morning… But don’t forget to take the trash on your way out!

Kissies in the titties…

Costinha

The biggest threat to Brazil are its citizens. Especially those who think it is everyone else's fault-Brazilians like to blame everyone for their misery.

just ask
costa
costinha

The biggest threat to the world are American citizens. Especially those who think it is everyone else's fault-American like to blame everyone for their crazierly.

just ask
perckerwood
florist

THE OIL IS OURS....
TRY TO TAKE FROM US TO SEE OUR DEFENSES, MOTHERf**kERS!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE NOT LIKE IRAK YOU BITCHES>>>>

OBS: SORRY MY ENGLISH

USA can't even win a war against a tiny nation like vietnam or korea, Iraq ? lol... Rambo is retired,tired and ugly. Come to Brazil and we will kick your ass doing arrastao left and right to you gringos all day. lol lol... Brazil is going o rule the world in less than 20 years. God is Brazilian... USA is good to fight Panama and El Salvador, that's it !!! Also you guys suck at soccer !!! lol...

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