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Where is Brazil's Barack Obama? PDF Print E-mail
Written by John Fitzpatrick   
Friday, 01 August 2008 18:42

Barack ObamaThe US presidential candidate, Barack Obama, has just made a triumphal tour of Europe during which he was feted by the region's political leaders and cheered on by crowds in Germany. Whether Obama becomes president will depend on American voters and not foreign fans and his race will undoubtedly play a part. It has taken a long time for a black presidential candidate to appear in the US. 

In Brazil, which is said to have the largest number of people of African descent outside Nigeria, there are no black or mixed-race political leaders with any chance of standing as presidential candidates in the foreseeable future.

While the US has never had any president with black blood that we know of (although George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are believed to have fathered mulatto children) this may not be the case in Brazil. President Fernando Henrique Cardoso once said that he had a "foot in the kitchen", a way of saying that he had some slave blood and his features confirm this.

There have been almost 40 presidents since the Republic was established in 1889 and some are bound to have had African (and/or) Indian) blood. Artur da Costa e Silva, who was military dictator between 1967 and 1969, is one example of someone with non-white blood. It is unlikely that any of them would have seen this heritage as an advantage or boasted about it in public. (It may have been different in private as Brazilians are often proud to claim Indian ancestry.)

Since Americans have an oversimplified view of race, Obama is regarded as a black man who happens to have a white mother rather than a white man who happens to have a black father. To state the plain truth and call him a mulatto would be to commit a politically correct sin in today's America.

There are currently no black or mixed-race political leaders in Brazil, unless you count Cardoso or the culture minister, Gilberto Gil. Gil may be a great entertainer but is a political lightweight.

The most prominent hands-on black politician in recent years was probably Benedita da Silva who was deputy governor of Rio de Janeiro state and assumed the governorship in 2002 when Anthony Garotinho stood down to stand as a presidential candidate. Although she was hailed by the liberal media outside Brazil because she came from a favela, she turned out to be as unimpressive as most Brazilian politicians.

She and Garotinho became involved in a slanging match over the chaotic state of Rio's finances. Garotinho, a populist who has been accused of involvement in corruption, treated her with disdain and even said he would disinfect the presidential palace after she and her family left and his own wife, Rosana, became governor.

He denied this was a racist statement although it certainly sounded like one to most people. Benedita da Silva became a minister in President Lula's first administration but was forced to resign after being accused of using public funds during a private visit to Argentina.

Another prominent black politician was Celso Pitta, the son of a white father and black mother, who became mayor of São Paulo in 1997 after Paulo Maluf stood down to be a presidential candidate. Pitta was the second black person to hold this position. He quickly became bogged down in corruption scandals and his administration was marked by incompetence and inefficiency.

He was suspended from office on one occasion and even briefly jailed. Instead of trying to accuse his opponents of racism (as any American politician would) Pitta tried to portray himself as a pathetic loser. He once put a placard on his car windscreen which said something like: "Poor hard working black man."

Earlier this year, a scandal involving credit cards issued to public employees who used them to go on spending sprees led to the downfall of Matilde Robeiro, minister for racial equality and one of the few black members of Lula's government. Unlike Pitta, she wasted no time in adopting American tactics and claimed (perhaps truthfully) that she had been victimized for being black and a woman.

There are also no influential black church leaders as is the case in the US. The Catholic Church and the various evangelical churches are firmly in white hands although much of their work is carried out in areas where most people have black blood. Likewise, the trade unions and social movements like the MST have virtually no black leaders and there is only one black judge on the Supreme Court.

He is only there because Lula insisted on having a black presence. There are no black millionaires outside sport and show business and black faces do not feature on television in anywhere near the proportion of black or mixed race people in the country. It is rare to see a black face on the cover of a magazine, presumably because the publishers and advertisers believe they will not attract sufficiently well-off readers.

The idea that black and mixed race people are uneducated and fit only for menial or manual jobs is rife. I have a black friend who is an engineer and has an MBA. She said that when she started her first job, her boss presented her to the rest of the team and stressed that she was a professional so they would realize that she was not a cleaner.

When she goes into designer stores for clothes or beauty items, the staff never approach and ask if they can help her since they assume she cannot afford the prices. She worked for an American multinational that gave her opportunities for advancement that she believes no Brazilian company would have. This is the daily reality for millions of  Brazilians.  

There are some signs that black people are pushing a political agenda to improve their lot. The introduction of racial quotas in some universities is a start although this has caused resentment among whites.

A national black consciousness day has been introduced and is a public holiday. It is common to see young people wearing tee-shirts stating "100% Negro" (even though the wearer is generally more likely to be 60% Negro) or bearing images of Zumbi, the leader of the Palmares revolt, who was killed in 1695.

Going back three centuries for a hero shows that there are few modern role models for young black people and certainly none like Obama in the US.  There are also few signs that black people are organizing themselves or trying to put up black candidates in places like Bahia, Rio de Janeiro or São Paulo where there are large black communities.

This attitude probably reflects the more easy-going Brazilian attitude to race, which does not classify anyone with a mere drop of African blood as being black. However, the longer it continues, the longer we will have to wait for a black Brazilian presidential candidate.

John Fitzpatrick is a Scottish writer and consultant with long experience of Brazil. He is based in São Paulo and runs his own company Celtic Comunicações. This article originally appeared on his site www.brazilpoliticalcomment.com.br. He can be contacted at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .

© John Fitzpatrick 2008

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Benedita da Silva
written by Forrest Allen Brown, August 01, 2008
out of all the politicans to have been caught she a person of color was the only one to have to quit .

I FIND THAT SOME WHAT RACE INSPIRED

Matilde Robeiro yet another person of color thron to the trash in brasil

no racisum in brasil is there

not like the nasy old USA HU

more people of color doing grate things than any other country
in the world .

but we were the big slave traders ,
put down the black man and woman .

ask barba jordon
and obama and other black leadres in the US
ask them see whitch country they would rather live in .
the US or Brasil .
any black person in the US where would they rather live .
in a country like the US of a happy country like brasil

take that poll and see
for that fact
ask any poor person in brasil where would they rather live
brasil or the US
Finally
written by A Brazilian, August 01, 2008
A balanced point of view of the Brazilian racial situation, although I don't agree with much of what he says.

The statistics are manipulated to make the situation look worse, in order to justify the racism rethoric. At the same time leftist politicians keep trying to incite hatred among people, putting one against the other, with the filthy rethoric we all know leftists have.

They don't offer truth, only try to cloud people's judgement with hatred and resentment. This doesn't help anybody, except their own plans to seize power forever.
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written by João da Silva, August 01, 2008
At the same time leftist politicians keep trying to incite hatred among people, putting one against the other, with the filthy rethoric we all know leftists have.


Ya all might pounce on "A Brazilian" for this comment, but I wholeheartedly agree with him. The lefties love to incite hatred among people of different colors, states (North-South), encourage Xenophobia, etc;

My congrats to "A Brazilian" for his blunt remarks and I appreciate them.
Forrest
written by João da Silva, August 01, 2008
In your view, is our current ruler a WASP? smilies/grin.gif
Forrest
written by João da Silva, August 01, 2008
Where is Brazil's Barack Obama?


Ah, there is one. Our good buddy Dnb and I am sure he would not mind and nor should we! He is our consensus candidate, fully endorsed by Ch.c!!
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written by Brazuca, August 01, 2008
The idea of Americans (or Scotsmen for that matter) lecturing Brazilians on race leaves one wondering whether to laugh or cry. Such is the craziness in which we live.

Brazil doesn't have "black" people or "white" people. It just have Brazilian people -- end of story!

Latin ethnicity is supraracial. Latinos, let's not allow the Germanic barbarians to infect us with their diseased fixation on race. We've never had this unhealthy obsession with skin color and race as they have, so why start now?

By all means, take the good things and ideas they have to offer. But leave the bad!
Benedita
written by Shelly1, August 02, 2008
Although she was hailed by the liberal media outside Brazil because she came from a favela, she turned out to be as unimpressive as most Brazilian politicians.


Typical politician, no different from the US or anywhere else for that matter. In the old days, being a politician, meant that you were a serviceman. Nowadays, is a career for people with names such as Kennedy or Bush. Obama is not going to improve the economy or make miracles, however, he is a breath of fresh air and interesting. I truly hope he gets elected, this could turn out to be good for blacks in Brazil.

I have to agree- to a point with Brazuca. However, we as a society have also to agree that we have problems with racism. Not long ago, Blacks in novelas were maids. Not long ago, it was unusual to see a Black in college. We do have a black movement in Brazil,

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/42/132.html

However, I prefer to end with a quote, which summarizes Brazil's race issues:

""É preciso entender que a desigualdade no Brasil tem cor, nome e história. Esse não é um problema dos negros no Brasil, mas sim um problema do Brasil, que é de negros, brancos e outros mais", avalia Gomes
.

http://www.comciencia.br/reportagens/negros/03.shtml
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written by Brazuca, August 02, 2008
Not long ago, Blacks in novelas were maids.

That's because "blacks" generally occupy the lower levels of Brazil's socio-economic strata. The reason "blacks" in novelas were maids was because that reflected reality. I've seen some of those novelas. In most of them, the protagonists live to-die-for lifestyles. Few in Brazil with dark skin tones live such lifestyles, so it would be unrealistic and unreflective of reality to portray "blacks" in novelas living lifestyles very few do. Portraying "blacks" as maids is only being realistic, not racist.

Not long ago, it was unusual to see a Black in college.

Again, this is not because they are barred from entry. If a "black" gets the necessary marks, will he not be allowed to undertake the course for want of the right skin tone?

Different cultures and societies place different emphases on things. Those of African descent in Brazil traditionally place greater emphasis on the more Dionysian aspects of life, demonstrated in their disproportionate representation in such areas of Brazilian cultural life as music and sport. Those of, say, Japanese descent, on the other hand, are renowned around the world for placing a great emphasis on the more Apollonian aspects of life -- discipline, order, etc. This is why, although constituting on 1% of the Brazilian population, they constitute a disproportionate 20% of students at USP, South America's most prestigious university.

If "blacks" in Brazil are rarely to be found in universities, then this is because the Dionysian emphasis in their culture does not lend itself easily to the rigours of academic discipline necessary to win a spot in a prestigious university. For that to occur, their culture would have to start heavily emphasising the importance of formal education.

Such cultural differences can be seen in Africa, for example, where everybody's "black", so there's no room for excuses. Take the Banyarwanda (those of Rwanda) of the Tutsi social class. After being chased away from Rwanda in 1959 by the Hutu lower class, in a revolution casting off Tutsi social dominance in the first of a number of pogroms that would culminate in the 1994 genocide, many of these Tutsi found themselves in squalid refugee camps, ignored and forgotten by the world. Because their culture so strongly emphasised formal education, they grabbed the opportunity for education offered them in Uganda, and, as the children of these refugees grew up, they found themselves occupying the more prestigious jobs and positions in society to a disproportionate degree. This was such that when their rebel army launched its armed invasion back into Rwanda, as a forced right of return, it constituted the best-educated rebel army in history. The point is, this culture found itself with absolutely nothing in Uganda, but because it emphasised education so strongly (the more Apollonian aspects of life), it was able to excel in this area.

Other equally "black" cultures in Africa do not excel in this area to the same extent, simply because their culture does not place as much value on formal education as other cultures. The Kikuyu in Kenya, to take another example, are better at business than the other Kenyan tribes. This is obviously because their culture emphasises business skills more than other cultures. There's a particular portion of Indians in India that have a long history of engaging in trade in their culture and excel in this area.

So culture matters. A Dionysian culture will produce Dionysian results -- music, sport, spontaneity, ebullience, etc. An Apollonian culture will produce Apollonian results -- punctuality, discipline, delayed gratification, stolidness, etc.

Apollonianism lends itself more easily to middle-class status than does Dionysianism. Dionysianism, however, is more fun -- just look at the carnaval! (But also note that German and Japanese cultures do not have such cultural expressions of exuberance!)
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written by ..., August 02, 2008
At the same time leftist politicians keep trying to incite hatred among people, putting one against the other, with the filthy rethoric we all know leftists have.


Ya all might pounce on "A Brazilian" for this comment, but I wholeheartedly agree with him. The lefties love to incite hatred among people of different colors, states (North-South), encourage Xenophobia, etc;


My congrats to "A Brazilian" for his blunt remarks and I appreciate them.


You two sound about as stupid as a typical Sean Hannity Rush Limbaugh fan. Light on substance, heavy on hyperbole, repeat and scream - and never an original thought. I'd bet neither of you could adequately define what a "leftist" is let alone connect it to race relations in Brazil or the US.

Do us all a favor and end the vapid political cheap shots used to score points with the less educated and easily duped. I bet you're both in your 50s or 60s? Typically grumpy old men, now back to Fox news the both of you.
to serve your country
written by forrest allen brown, August 02, 2008
not your pockets or those of someone ealse

as shelly said it was a job for them that wanted better for the country and its people

now its for people that want a free ride , just give the mass enough to keep your job while making the other party look bad and vote yourself a raise at 3 am when all the reporter are home .

best bet for the US only 2 terms in office for all electid oficals .
pay set by popular vote of the people of there state .
have to stay on SS not there golden parachute they have now when they leave office .

make them pay for there own gas, remove the senat bank , get rid of there pravita dinning room .

hold them to a higher rule of law like we should the sports and movie stars
so our kids dont copie there actions and go to jail for ever and they walk after 15 munits
Brazuca
written by Shelly1, August 02, 2008
That's because "blacks" generally occupy the lower levels of Brazil's
socio-economic strata. The reason "blacks" in novelas were maids was because that reflected reality. I've seen some of those novelas. In most of them, the protagonists live to-die-for lifestyles. Few in Brazil with dark skin tones live such lifestyles, so it would be unrealistic and unreflective of reality to portray "blacks" in novelas living lifestyles very few do. Portraying "blacks" as maids is only being realistic, not racist.


I will have to disagree. It is true that black maids represented the realistic living, however I think TV Globo, majority white upper class (business people, actors, etc.), didn't break the status quo for a reason. That reason is institutional racism. Why not break the cycle and use the novelas as a means to educate and empower Blacks in Brazil. You may say, that is not what they are in business for, then I will ask you, why not? It is entertainment made to sell, however, they are making a profit on racism. Funny, that they don't make novelas based on success stories, sure we must have stories of coming from nothing and making it to the top. How many people would be interested? Young girls and boys need to have a role model-kind of Williams sisters in the US, they went to Wimbledon and broke the "all white club". They are heroes for many young African-Americans.

If we didn't have racism issues in Brazil, we would not have institution such as Combate ao Racismo Institucional and other organizations that I have mentioned here. If in doubt, just do a search on google Racismo no Brasil, there are many, many cases.

"O Racismo Institucional é o fracasso das instituições e organizações em prover um serviço profissional e adequado às pessoas em virtude de sua cor, cultura, origem racial ou étnica. Manifesta-se em normas, práticas e comportamentos discriminatórios adotados no cotidiano de trabalho resultantes da ignorância, da falta de atenção, do preconceito ou de estereótipos racistas. Em qualquer situação, o racismo institucional sempre coloca pessoas de grupos raciais ou étnicos discriminados em situação de desvantagem no acesso a benefícios gerados pelo Estado e por demais instituições organizadas.


http://www.combateaoracismoinstitucional.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=101

For me the above quote summarizes, yet again, what Globo and other TV stations in Brazil have been doing for years. If you don't think so, please watch the Jo Soares interview, which enraged the black community in Portuguese speaking African countries and in Brazil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ6KCKBmRPQ

and a the website:
http://www.angonoticias.com/full_headlines.php?id=17342



The Racist Anglo Saxon Frame of Mind
written by ..., August 02, 2008
Even though I sport a similar phenotype and genotype, I am ashamed of their obsessive fixation with color pigmentation. Biological facts have taught us that among trillions upon trillions of genes, only a half dozen differentiates our skin color, the same amount that differentiate us from another close species, the chimpanzees.

I am in total agreement with Brazuca… Of course, culture matters, culture matters totally. Cultural aspirations drive us all. Look at the Jews, for instance. They are highly motivated to education from the time they are born, hence their success all over the world. Anti-Semitism is nothing more then jealousy for their great achievements in the arts and science.

Since Brasil has become an influential emerging power, now we are blamed in destroying our environment, practicing racism….bla bla bla. The irony of it all is that is precisely what “they” have done the last few centuries!

In Brasil, we will never be referred to as a Blackman, a Catholic, a Jew, but rather as my friend Mary, John or Paul. Racial stratification and isolation is an European-North American trade. Don’t blame us for it!

Scottish man, try again…

Costinha

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written by asp, August 02, 2008
huge groups of people were brought to the americas in slavery.poverty is passsed down from generation to generation like wealth . some people escape the poverty, many dont.

the reason there are so many afro brazilians on the futebol selection is that sports are one of the few oportunities to escape poverty. the brazil futebol selection looks like the real brazil mix (unless you live in blumenau)

tv is ridiculas in brazil for racial honesty of what the country looks like

i sure dont think brazil should act like the united states or south africa, but, it has serious racial issues.


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written by João da Silva, August 02, 2008
I bet you're both in your 50s or 60s? Typically grumpy old men,


Ah, you are calling me an old fart,eh?

now back to Fox news the both of you.


Fortunately, we don't get this Channel where I live. May be "A Brazilian" gets it. I like to be indoctrinated by TV Record, Band and Globo. While I am enjoying the stimulating "Novelas" during the prime time, I suggest you go to the beach (as the weather promises to be good for the next two days) to have some cold ones and reflect about the "Present and Immediate Danger" we are facing. smilies/cheesy.gif
And Now, Age Discrimination
written by Ric, August 02, 2008
Is raising its ugly head on this site.

One enjoys the frequent potshots at non-leftist pundits, talk show hosts and news networks, which only tends to showcase the discomfiture of the left which would like to do away with all conservative expression if it could, but Age Discrimination? Finally, sir, have you no shame?

The guys in Haight-Ashbury in the sixties used to say, trust no one over thirty. I was there and heard them say it. Where are they now? The survivers are Old Hippies. Some of them have really nice Shopping Carts.
Where is Brazil's Barack Obama?
written by ch.c., August 02, 2008
Or said differently :
When will a black or a woman (black or not) be elected as President in a machist and racist country such as Brazil is ??????

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written by Ric, August 02, 2008
There have been black candidates for U.S. president before.

But none got the media puff that Obama has.

Politics doesn´t take place in a vacuum. Who is calling the shots? To whom does Obama belong? To whom will he answer if elected?

Anyway, he may have peaked too soon.

Ch.c
written by João da Silva, August 02, 2008
Or said differently :
When will a black or a woman (black or not) be elected as President in a machist and racist country such as Brazil is ??????


Ch.c, even though you are a smart "Old Fart" in Economics, International Trade, Finance, etc;, you are politically naive about our Republic. Germany elected Angela Merckel, Chile Michelle Bachlert & Argentina Cristina. Ok,the Yanks did not want Hillary and now they have Obama Vs McCain. But Brasil has a great woman candidate with impeccable leftist credentials. A phenomenon and a rising star who fought the dictatorship and she is sure to be elected with thumping majority, thus continuing our unstoppable progress.

I hope you have already guessed whom I am talking about smilies/wink.gif smilies/grin.gif

P.S: I apologize to anyone who took objections to my comments (anticipadamente, of course)
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written by ., August 02, 2008
In Brazil does racial stratification equal economic stratification or is it the other way around
for all
written by carioca, August 02, 2008
The Greatest Thing You Will Ever Learn: Is To Love And Be Loved In Return.
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written by João da Silva, August 02, 2008
In Brazil does racial stratification equal economic stratification or is it the other way around


You again, interfering in our domestic issues? Why don't you google and find out. smilies/grin.gif

btw, I was wondering when you were coming in to give your highly opinionated views. smilies/wink.gif
The title of the article is plain SILLY!
written by dnbaiacu, August 02, 2008
The only reason why Obama WILL be president( the powers that be PUT who they want in office ie, Bush and trashed ballots in Florida) is because with the current geo-politic and economic situation IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT. He could be PURPLE for Christ sake! All that is needed at this point is an eloquent spokesman a facade, a front to parade the U.S into the North American Union. And that will be the BEST case scenario. Parabems to Lula that only had to about the South American Union ,"It's here and my stamp is on it?" in more words or less.
It's not even about Americans being desperate for a "CHANGE". Of course they are, as they are being led to the second Depression.But just follow the MONEY people. ALWAYS follow the paper trail. The masterminds behind this whole "show" have NOT changed. They are just using "distraction" as the prevailing tool.
Brazil and an "Obama"?? Not going to happen! Remember people Brazil is supposedly "EMERGING". Let's all do the math.
As far as leftists and their ideas? Divide an conquer will always be the order of the day on this side of Armageddon. And I am so sorry for having to inject such a "politically incorrect" word or topic on my comment.
My friend Joao.. As for political aspirations on my part? I am deviating from my conscience as it is merely commenting on politics. "President"? Why court the Devil? I have enough personal issues to resolve spiritually. LOL.!
Which brings me to a finally point. Being NON PARTIAL to everyone (eliminating racism) STARTS WITHIN THE INDIVIDUAL. If everyone begins to check themselves in area, society will begin to make progress in this area.
It is a CHOICE smilies/wink.gif
A little trivia for everyone. Abraham Lincoln. Supposedly credited for freeing the slaves, is conceptionalized artistically on a COPPER PENNY with his profile facing LEFT.
The only thing that has changed to the game are the faces. smilies/wink.gif
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written by ..., August 02, 2008
Double Touble Dot, is that you??? smilies/shocked.gif smilies/shocked.gif
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written by ..., August 02, 2008
oops, spelling, make that Double Trouble Dot
Four-Dots
written by Double-Dot, August 02, 2008
Double Touble Dot, is that you???


Of course, it is me. Who else could it be? Was easy to make out that it was you!!!
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written by .., August 02, 2008
Which brings me to a finally point. Being NON PARTIAL to everyone (eliminating racism) STARTS WITHIN THE INDIVIDUAL. If everyone begins to check themselves in area, society will begin to make progress in this area.
It is a CHOICE


Great comment. Lord Augustus (as well as his Swiss adversary) will fully approve of it.
Double Trouble Dot
written by ...., August 02, 2008
Fine then! Good night Sir smilies/grin.gif
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written by Brazuca, August 03, 2008
It is true that black maids represented the realistic living, however I think TV Globo, majority white upper class (business people, actors, etc.), didn't break the status quo for a reason. That reason is institutional racism.

Correlation does not equal causation. Just because darker-skinned Brazilians are generally poorer than lighter-skinned Brazilians does not mean that their skin tone has anything to do with their situation. Skin tone is incidental in this case. Those with darker skin in Brazil will tend to have a more African rather than European influence in their culture and worldview, and vise-versa. That means darker-skinned Brazilians will tend to have less of the middle-class values lighter-skinned Brazilians have, which is the cause of the latter's generally better socio-economic status.

Why not break the cycle and use the novelas as a means to educate and empower Blacks in Brazil. You may say, that is not what they are in business for, then I will ask you, why not? It is entertainment made to sell, however, they are making a profit on racism.


The cycle can be broken by changing the culture to assume more middle-class values, such as: temperance and continence, delayed gratification, future orientation, self-discipline, commitment to rigorous education, etc. As long as the culture of darker-skinned Brazilians tends to lend itself more easily to spontaneity and immediate gratification, the lifestyle stemming from middle-class values will be beyond their grasp.

Many cultural groups have arrived in Brazil only to successfully break this alleged cycle you believe exists, by the second generation. Take a look at the (Christian) Lebanese, the Japanese, the Germans, for example.

The way to educate and empower "Blacks", contrary to forcing TV stations to paint a picture that does not exist, is to teach them the middle-class values they need to assume a middle-class lifestyle. The media is not making a profit on racism, because racism is not involved. They are merely making a profit on providing viewing that people want to watch, which portrays upper-class lifestyles and so casts people who look like the upper class.

Young girls and boys need to have a role model-kind of Williams sisters in the US, they went to Wimbledon and broke the "all white club". They are heroes for many young African-Americans.

Did the Williams sisters break the "all white club" because they say on TV "black" women playing tennis at Wimbledon? If not, then you've disproved your argument.

They are heroes for many African-Americans? What about for the other Americans? Is the US so racially divided that the Williams sisters can only be heroes for one segment of the population? If so, don't bring that disease of racial division to Brazil. Pele is a hero to all Brazilians, not just cafe-com-leite or bem-branca Brazilians -- all Brazilians.

If we didn't have racism issues in Brazil, we would not have institution such as Combate ao Racismo Institucional and other organizations that I have mentioned here. If in doubt, just do a search on google Racismo no Brasil, there are many, many cases.

If we didn't live on a flat earth, we wouldn't have such organisations as the Flat Earth Society. If in doubt, do a Google search. I'm sure you'll find many cases.
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written by Brazuca, August 03, 2008
Since Brasil has become an influential emerging power, now we are blamed in destroying our environment, practicing racism….bla bla bla. The irony of it all is that is precisely what “they” have done the last few centuries!

I think they're projecting. It constantly amazes me how ready Americans are to lecture to others -- indeed Brazilians, of all people! -- about race relations. It's really quite an amazing phenomenon. I don't altogether understand it.

the reason there are so many afro brazilians on the futebol selection is that sports are one of the few oportunities to escape poverty.

I would say that that the reason for this is that futebol does not require middle-class values to succeed but in actual fact lends itself to Dionysian values -- inventiveness, fun, etc. While Apollonian societies can be good at futebol (the mechanical approach of the Germans bears fruit), Dionysian societies can as well, though in a more spontaneous, entertaining form. (See jogo bonito)

tv is ridiculas in brazil for racial honesty of what the country looks like


It's realistic in what it portrays. If it portrays life in the favelas, then it is realistic in that respect. If it portrays life in the upper classes, then it is realistic in that respect.

You also have to take into account the driving motivation of commercial television, which is advertising revenue. The market the corporations that are paying for the advertising is after is the middle-class market, as this is the market with mass buying power. That market is interested in viewing telenovelas they can more easily relate to. The poor are welcome to watch these telenovelas if they wish. But the advertisers are not much interested in them, as they are not a very relevant matter. The programming will follow the money on commercial television.

Politics doesn´t take place in a vacuum. Who is calling the shots? To whom does Obama belong? To whom will he answer if elected?

Obama is the puppet of Zbigniew Brzezinski and the Trilateral Commission!
Brazuca
written by dnbaiacu, August 03, 2008
Obama is the puppet of Zbigniew Brzezinski and the Trilateral Commission!

First of all, THANK YOU for clarifying this to our fellow readers. (I am a U.S citizen of half braziian descent, so I am not biased either way.Not anti-American, but definetly not afraid to call it as it is)
BUT! And I mean a BIG BUT! I need to help you out a bit with this insert so that people WON"T get the wrong impression.

The cycle can be broken by changing the culture to assume more middle-class values, such as: temperance and continence, delayed gratification, future orientation, self-discipline, commitment to rigorous education, etc. As long as the culture of darker-skinned Brazilians tends to lend itself more easily to spontaneity and immediate gratification, the lifestyle stemming from middle-class values will be beyond their grasp.

The legacy of slavery which runs long and deep and will continue as such until there is some sort of "Civil Rights Movement" that can only BEGIN to scratch the surface of alleviating this "circumstance". And the "powers that be" KNOW THIS as they continue to promote the silly idea that the race issue in Brazil is beast of a different color.
Brazil cannot afford a "revolution" or "movement" of this sort for it will ultimately pit the North against the South.
Let the pardo mulattos wallow in their confusion. But at the end of the day the whites of the South KNOW who they are and want to remain as such. (And they can't be necessarily faulted for that).
As was noted in the article few if any blacks hold political offices of true significance in Brazil. Few if any are millionaires outside of sports and entertainment.
Getting into the MIDDLE CLASS in any capitalistic society involves EQUAL access to a decent education. And only the 'powers that be" have the power to change that. Or they have to be forced to change that by a revolution or movement.
It is from the TOP DOWN that oppurtunity will come to get a middle class education to espouse "middle class" values for the poor predominately black masses.
Is the ruling class content with the status quo? YES! You will always need the poor to MAINTAIN the lifestyles of the rich. This is a capitalist FACT.
Slavery just delayed the timetable for the moral evolution (adopting supposed "middle class values") for slaves and their descendants. You are going to "breed" and "eat" regardless. But when it is against the law to read (during slavery). Schools are bad..(post slavery) And racism is institutionalized (slaverys legacy). ANY race subjected to that is going to have its "issues" in a capitalistic society.
Given more time and a leader.. All this will change. But I think Brazil will be intent on making sure that doesn't happen. Catholicism and Syncretism will make sure it doesn't happen. The roots of the "passivity" that prevails in the population at large. smilies/cheesy.gif! Ha Ha!
The blacks in the U.S have the culture Protestant (religiously) to thank . Nothing more. Nothing less. It starts with freeing the mind, ever so slowly..... smilies/wink.gifAnd thank God that is a CHOICE! smilies/wink.gifOn an individual basis ANYONE can circumvent remaining blind. Thank God for this ONLY!
So in conclusion it's really a waste of energy to feel too sorry for the downtrodden.. They will always be around by necessity. The best you can hope for is that the "few" will learn. Will get the "knowledge" and "apply" it. Supposed "middle class" values are just basic "moral values' and when applied generation after generation for the most part will insure some way to navigate decently through a capitalist society. Descendants of slaves were just systematically denied the oppurtunity to learn the system for centuries. It will take just as long if not longer to undo the process. And you can't expect first class citizens to be in a big hurry to help.
Get the knowledge! It is out there. And it is FREE! smilies/wink.gif
The pot always calls the kettle black...
written by dnbaiacu, August 03, 2008
Since Brasil has become an influential emerging power, now we are blamed in destroying our environment, practicing racism….bla bla bla. The irony of it all is that is precisely what “they” have done the last few centuries!


I agree wholeheartedly. The worst part about it all is that they know just who to use to vocalize all this garbage. Condaleeza Rice. It looks better that she points the finger.
But hey ,, she should know she is being pimped. And her vanity is to blame. So is Obama's for that matter. Insisting on being the FIRST BLACK this and that. It's a shame.! But so human. I do think Obama is going to be smart enough to stay out of all that. Many wonder why he is so quiet about Brazil. Maybe this is why. He doesn't want to appear AS USED. smilies/wink.gif
The Knowledge
written by Ric, August 03, 2008
There are individual exceptions, but the upper classes tend to have higher indices of intelligence than the lower classes. Surely this must be taken into consideration when considering these issues.

Jewish people are more intelligent than Gentiles as a whole, no matter how one measures intelligence. The ghettoes of Europe where they tended to live were not slums, they were not poor, not dependent on the dole, and those that were able to escape before it became impossible usually did quite well in their new countries.

But there are people groups the large percentage of which are unequipped whether mentally, emotionally or culturally to take advantage of new places and opportunities and continue to huddle together in misery just like they did back home. In earlier, crueler societies many of these people would not have survived. Today they do. ´

Maybe they can be helped, I hope so, but maybe they can´t.

Totally True
written by dnbaiacu, August 03, 2008
So culture matters. A Dionysian culture will produce Dionysian results -- music, sport,


That being said and agreed upon by a few us. Please let it be known that a SLAVE CULTURE still prevails in various segments of the Western World. And there are many in positions of power and control all TOO CONTENT TO KEEP IT THAT.
Fortunatley there is LIBERTY through a certain form of knowledge that is widely available to all. But the Darwinists and the Marxist and a host of other political and social idealogists don't want the masses to recognize this.
Knowing this no matter what your race or persuasion will take you a long way with a much wider vision.
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written by dnbaiacu, August 03, 2008
There are individual exceptions, but the upper classes tend to have higher indices of intelligence than the lower classes. Surely this must be taken into consideration when considering these issues.

So we see "government" to the advancement of any people within it's boundaries. There must be fair access to good education. But this cannot exist in a capitalist society. Some, by necessity will be left out of the loop to finance the chosen privleged.
It is so much easier to designate the "haves" and "have nots" by color. Therefore "institutionalizing" racism.
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written by Brazuca, August 03, 2008
Supposed "middle class" values are just basic "moral values' and when applied generation after generation for the most part will insure some way to navigate decently through a capitalist society.

Ha-ha, that was basically what I was hinting at. And I was also hinting that the solution is already taking place; in the form of the fast-growing Protestant movement in Brazil. Protestants (and it is the serious, no-nonsense, fundamentalist-type Protestantism) does not compromise with syncretism and such other Catholic disservices. They exhort the pagans to cast of their spiritual chains -- not to leave some (or most) of them untouched, with a bit of Mary-worship interspersed. I mean, in Brazil today large segments of the population are still worshiping Iemanja, some sea goddess who apparently can control aspects of their lives. It is even common to see on the corners of streets in Rio food on plates left out to placate or curry favour with some god!

So the Protestant invasion is setting to work fixing things. The Bahamas has a puritanical heritage. So although the population consists predominantly of those of an African-slave background, it has enjoyed quite a high standard of living. That puritanical heritage would have not made compromises with pagan sea gods or what have you.

I disagree with you that it has to be a top-down thing. The Protestant missionaries will go to the people and change their hearts and their worldview. That way, they will assume moral/middle-class values/virtues: continence and temperance, a linear view of history, honesty and good character, a future orientation, etc.

And education, I tend to think, is something you seek, rather than something that is given you. If you want it bad enough, you'll get it, one way or the other. Formal, government-provided education is a sort of poisoned chalice or fraud. It teaches people to believe that what is education is what the government says is education; and that education can only come from on high, can only be given to you by those above you. This teaches a slave mentality, and also makes people susceptible to manipulation and control. You yourself have gone out and educated yourself about the true reality of things: how government works, how its the Powers That Be that control everything, including who becomes the President of the United States and what his policies shall be. Formal education doesn't teach you this. The Powers That Be control formal education, and since school has been compulsory in the United States, has been busy mis- or dis-educating the hoi polloi. Americans on average are a pretty clueless bunch, whereas before schooling became compulsory back in early American history, they were a highly literate bunch. See John Taylor Gatto's excellent and revelatory The Underground History of American Education, available to read online.
Here is a black man who could be president of Brazil.
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 03, 2008
The author said: “In Brazil, which is said to have the largest number of people of African descent outside Nigeria,”

I have no idea what he is trying to imply regarding the Brazilian black population and Nigeria, since I did a lot of research on that subject when I was writing one of my books about Brazilian history.

Quoting from my book published in 2000: “It is estimated that between 1700 and 1851 approximately 2.2 million to 3.0 million African slaves arrived in Brazil. It is also known where these African slaves came from. "The slave traders brought approximately 67 percent of the African slaves from Luanda and Benguela (Angola), 29 percent from Congo, and the remaining 4 percent from Cabo Verde, Moçambique and Madagascar."”

We also know that the blacks from Congo ended up on the north of Brazil, and they were connected with the slave traffic from the Dutch. The Angolans ended up everywhere else where they had slaves in Brazil and the Portuguese were responsible for that part of the slave trade.

The slaves that ended in Brazil had nothing to do with Nigeria.

Since Congo and Angola are next door to each other and the division into separate countries was created by Europeans – we can make a generalization in this case and we can say that 96 percent of the blacks in Brazil came from Angola/Congo area. And 96 percent of black Brazilians know where their African roots are – they are descendants of Angolans and Congoleses.

Why that is important to know?

Blacks in the United States have a major problem tracing their heritage since they brought slaves from Africa from various locations and most Americans of African descent are not sure from where their ancestors came from.

Let me give you an example of what I mean: Even without making a DNA test to confirm 100 percent based on where Pele’s was born and his family live on the state of Minas Gerais there is 67 percent probability that Pele’s ancestors where natives from Angola.

If Pele decides to confirm his heritage there are DNA tests today that he can do it.


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The article is asking where is Brazil’s Barack Obama?

In my opinion, the Democratic Party made a major mistake by choosing Barack Obama as its presidential candidate for November 2008.

It is an experiment that will cost this country in a big way for decades to come.

About 6 months ago I wrote about that subject – Barack Obama the first black man to represent a major political party in the United States and the first black man to lose an election that was supposed to be a piece of cake.

At the end of the day enough of Hillary Clinton supporters are staying home on election day, and many people will vote for their own kind instead of the best candidate.

Barack Obama will not have enough votes to put him over the top in many swinging states.

I had been an Al Gore supporter for the last 2 years, and I am very disappointed that he decided not to run since he could have own the election with a solid mandate.

There are many reasons why Al Gore would have been the ultimate presidential candidate, but instead the Democratic Party is running with a rookie, with no substance at a time that the United States is confronting the Perfect Storm and an economic meltdown.

But these are the people who reelected George W. Bush – what else can I say?

Anyway, coming back to the subject of this article.

In my opinion there is only one black person who could be elected president of Brazil if he decided to run for president – and his name is Edson Arantes do Nascimento – our beloved Pele.

Brazilians would elect Pele in the same way that Lula got elected president of Brazil.

The majority of Brazilians would vote with their heart regarding Pele.

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written by Brazuca, August 03, 2008
There are individual exceptions, but the upper classes tend to have higher indices of intelligence than the lower classes. Surely this must be taken into consideration when considering these issues.

Jewish people are more intelligent than Gentiles as a whole, no matter how one measures intelligence. The ghettoes of Europe where they tended to live were not slums, they were not poor, not dependent on the dole, and those that were able to escape before it became impossible usually did quite well in their new countries.

But there are people groups the large percentage of which are unequipped whether mentally, emotionally or culturally to take advantage of new places and opportunities and continue to huddle together in misery just like they did back home. In earlier, crueler societies many of these people would not have survived. Today they do. ´

Maybe they can be helped, I hope so, but maybe they can´t.


If you believe this, why are you interested in such a biologically compromised mongrel nation like Brazil? The gauchos? But there's only about 10 million Brazilians of German descent. And as they years go by, the more they assimilate into the rest of the untermenschen population, thereby losing their biological edge -- as you would no doubt see it.

It's interesting. So consistent was Hitler in his survival-of-the-fittest worldview that as the Slavs were storming Berlin, he conceded that they had thereby proven their racial superiority in defeating the Germans, who had hitherto mistakenly believed themselves to be innately superior to the Slavs, whom they had understood to be untermenschen and had treated accordingly. Hitler, demonstrating admirable consistency in his philosophy, hoped, as he spent his last hours in his bunker, that the Russians would show no mercy on the German population, as to do so would only be to perpetuate what had been proven in the crucible of war to be the inferior genes of the German population.

But the Darwinian cosmology (from which this racialistic, eugenicist thinking that Ric demonstrates stems) is altogether nonsensical. It tells us nothing of what ought to be done, what course man ought to take. They usually reply that "survival" is the driving imperative of existence. But this is to say nothing. I mean, says who? The chance, random electrochemical reactions that occur in their brains and result in their thoughts? But how can these chance, random electrochemical reactions occurring in their grey matter be intellible? These people need to think out their philosophy a bit better, me thinks.

And that phrase of theirs -- "survival of the fittest". That's just a tautology.

Who are the fittest? Those who survive. Who survive? The fittest.

Ric subtly complains: "In earlier, crueler societies many of these people would not have survived. Today they do."

Well, then, Ric, I suppose this is because they are fit. Because if they were not fit, then they would not survive.

To complain that this is because of the dysgenic influence of Christian principles of mercy and charity in helping the "weak" to live on and propagate their kind is still to say nothing.

The fit -- by definition -- survive.

So Christianity must be congratulated for making more people more fit -- by helping them to survive.

Besides, were we to let this survival-of-the-fittest philosophy reign free unhindered, where would it all end? It would be constant war and fighting, the "strong" (or those who deem themselves the strong, as the Germans did only a few decades back) seeking to eliminate the "weak" (Slavs, Jews, "blacks", Chinese, caboclos, etc.). The Nazis were convinced that warfare was an inherent good, since it propelled evolution forward by ridding the Earth of its human detritus. Warfare was simply the principles of the Olympics writ large -- stronger, faster, higher. But in warfare, the loser lost -- permanently. Unless they lost to a "population group" too infected with Christian charity and mercy to do the "right" thing by the survival-of-the-fittest system of ethics (sic).

Luckily for the Germans at the end of the Second World War, the victors (even the Russians) acted with sufficient Christian charity and mercy to allow them to live on and continue to propagate their kind. Maybe Christianity ain't such a bad thing after all. smilies/wink.gif
NSSM 200
written by Brazuca, August 04, 2008
By the way, Ric will be happy to know that it is official US government policy to eliminate the "weak" (as Ric and his lot would see it) in biologically compromised like Brazil that are teeming with untermenschen.

Henry Kissinger (one of those superior Jews) formulated in 1974 the National Security Study Memorandum (NSSM 200). The memo, which was secret until relatively recently (thanks to legal action to declassify it by the Catholic Church), was entitled, "Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for US Security and Overseas Interests". Basically it advocated for population control (a euphemism that has successfully been used to camouflage eugenics) of the world's teeming masses of untermenschen. The thirteen countries to be targeted included: India, Nigeria, Mexico, Indonesia, Brazil, Turkey and Colombia. Only a drastic reduction of these nations' populations would allow for US exploitation of their raw materials. Brazil was to be the NSSM 200 "model".

To quote directly from Engdahl's Seeds of Destruction book, from which I garnered this information (pp.64-65):

"Brazil was one of the most clearly documented examples of NSSM 200. Beginning in the late 1980's ... the Brazilian Ministry of Health began to investigate reports of massive sterilization of Brazilian women ... the result of a formal Congressional inquiry, sponsored by more than 165 legislators from every political party represented in the Brazilian legislature.

"The investigation had been initiated after information [about NSSM 200] was published in the Jornal de Brasilia, Hova do Povo (Rio de Janeiro), Jornal do Brasil, and other major Brazilian newspapers in May 1991.

"The Brazilian government was shocked to find that an estimated 44% of all Brazilian women aged between 14 and 55 had been permanently sterilized. Most of the older women had been sterilized when the program started in the mid-1970s. ...[T]he sterilizations had been carried out by a variety of different organizations and agencies, some Brazilian. They included the International Planned Parenthood Federation, the US Pathfinder Fund, the Association for Voluntary Surgical Contraception, Family Health International -- all programs under the aegis and guidance of the US Agency for International Development (USAID).

"...According to some reports, under the program, as many as 90% of all Brazilian women of African descent had been sterilized. ...Almost half of Brazil's 154 million people in the 1980's were believed to be of African ancestry."


So there you have it. Some good, encouraging news for you, Ric. smilies/wink.gif

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Christianity. Can't live without it! smilies/cheesy.gif
Question for Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 04, 2008
Hi Joao,

I asked you this question before, but I can't find your answer.

Today, do we have in Brazil a General similar to Castelo Branco?

Do you know the name of any General of the highest caliber in Brazil?

Thanks,
Ricardo

Osama, Obama or Your Mama
written by ..., August 04, 2008
Does it really make any difference?

Costinha
And education is something you seek...
written by dnbaiacu, August 04, 2008
rather than something given to you.

EXCELLENT POINT! I wholeheartedly agree with Brazuca. Keep it coming! smilies/smiley.gif
N.S.S.M. 200
written by ..., August 04, 2008
No Shame Society of Murderers (the USA), is a more fitting acronym, don't you think?

Costinha
Ricardo
written by dnbaiacu, August 04, 2008
It is an experiment that will cost this country in a big way for decades to come.

Obama is NOT an experiment. He is a front. Suffice to say, "follow the money". The powers that be KNOW what they are doing. The U.S will lose its sovereignty on purpose.
Barack Obama will not have enough votes to put him over the top in many swinging states.

If the system were not rigged this would definetly be the case. But as sure as Bush was "railroaded" into office . So will be the case with Obama. People aren't playing with that much money behind his campaign. It would be pointless for one. And let the "media" tell it ( and it is most influential in public opinion, McCains views aren't making a good sell. ) This "Change" campaign is not in vain. Nothing short of an orchestrated terrorist attack on American soil by the U.S itself will motivate people to put McCain in office. Besides the money , people are voting now that never had an interest in voting their entire lives. Obama will be president. And the "Change" we are facing remains to be seen.
Incredible Brazuca!
written by dnbaiacu, August 04, 2008


So Christianity must be congratulated for making more people more fit -- by helping them to survive

Simply incredible!
This point will be clearly understood at the end of the day. But lets make it clear TRUE CHRISTIANITY.
Keeping in mind of course as was previously stated , with a change in one word.
"Knowledge is something you seek, rather than something given to you

This is exactly what the Powers that Be don't want you to know to insure your extinction.
Man this is so cool. To see someone that gets it and has good argument! smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/smiley.gif
Costinha
written by dnbaiacu, August 04, 2008
Osama, Obama or Your Mama
written by ..., August 04, 2008

Does it really make any difference?

Clearly,, NO!
THE WORLD WILL GO ON
written by Forrest Allen Brown, August 04, 2008
it is a matter as to how far as big business wants world trade to fatten there pockets so they buy governments who will do there bidding .

but one has to ask at what point will there be too many people for the world tom support ,

now china is the second most populated under inda .

the cathoilc religon is first but the muslem is comming fast

there are more non belivers then babist , and all the little religons put togeather .

the would has gone to be driven by greed and coruption .

the US will never have an eletric car as the government has not found out a way to get there road use tax out of them .

vote for me and i will set you free

and we all should say by the the best russina writer today
The Knowledge
written by Ric, August 04, 2008
1. The phenomenon often referred to in Brazil as "O Movimento Evangélico" is at least as syncretistic as the Roman Catholic Church. Some of the most conspicuous of its organizations are a mishmash of Protestantism, Evangelicalism(basically the terminology), Spiritism, Catholicism, and Zig Ziglarism. The Protestantism being of the Methodist variety.

2. Note that I never used the term "Survival of the Fittest", nor referred to any groups except Jews and Gentiles, nor any racial allusions. People read right over your statements and read in their thoughts and vocabulary. See the movie, "Being There".

3. Denying that the upper classes are, as a whole, brighter than the less priviledged (pobre lascado) reminds one of the story of the emperor that had no clothes. Lotsa stuff these days is generally known but can´t be expressed in the PC world in which we live.
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written by Brazuca, August 04, 2008
3. Denying that the upper classes are, as a whole, brighter than the less priviledged (pobre lascado) reminds one of the story of the emperor that had no clothes. Lotsa stuff these days is generally known but can´t be expressed in the PC world in which we live.

Sieg Heil!
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, August 04, 2008
Hi Joao,

I asked you this question before, but I can't find your answer.

Today, do we have in Brazil a General similar to Castelo Branco?

Do you know the name of any General of the highest caliber in Brazil?


Hi Ricardo,

It is politically incorrect to ask such questions! Nevertheless:

a) All our Officers are of high caliber, because I hear that AMAN & ESG are still good.

b) Please do watch the interview of a General in the following link and judge for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR-Zk0icSOQ

And give me a feed back.

Waiting for Gobama
written by Ric, August 04, 2008
Expect at least two October Surprises, not just one.

Expect no joy in Mudville after His Worship BHO strikes out in November. The dismay and reaction is not going to be pretty.
Idiomatic English Free lesson No. 1
written by Ric, August 04, 2008
Ever heard the phrase, "If you´re so smart, how come you ain´t rich?"
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written by Brazuca, August 04, 2008
No Shame Society of Murderers (the USA), is a more fitting acronym, don't you think?

Most Americans haven't got a clue about Brazil, let alone NSSM 200. So they're not all in on it. Only the few eugenists amongst the elite, supported by the Rockefeller