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cabecao


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Can you have a civil marriage in Brazil??

And I donít mean in the courts. I want to have an open-air wedding outside of church and outside of the courts. But my fiancťe tells me that the only way to do this is to get married by an evangelist, and I really donít want this, so help me GOD

So, my question to all of you, and Iím really hoping someone can help me with this, is this:

Is it possible to get a justice of the peace or somebody else with legal permission to marry you outside of the courts here in Brazil?

I know Brazil is still closely tied to the church, both Catholic and Evangelical, but C'MON people, what about the options for us secular folks? Are they so limited?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Total Posts: 18 | Joined Jan. 2003 | Posted on: 1:39 am on Feb. 17, 2003 | IP
Macunaima


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Iím not quite sure what you mean by this...

Even in the States, one canít have a ďcivilĒ wedding without at least going down to the courthouse and informing the State that, yes, one has indeed gotten hitched.

The same thing applies here. Have whatever kind of a ceremony you like. Knock yourself out! But until you go down to the courthouse to legalize it, it ainít legal.


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Brazil is the country of the future and always will be!

Total Posts: 147 | Joined Jan. 2003 | Posted on: 3:12 am on Feb. 17, 2003 | IP
cabecao


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I might be completely off my rocker here, but it was my impression that one does not need to go to the court to get married- they can come to you, if you so desire. At least that is the way I think it is in Canada. I don't think it is necessary to actually get married in court - just provide them with papers. But I may be wrong here too. Never been married before. So not sure.

I am a little confused still though. My fiancee now tells me that it is possible to have a "judge" or a justice of the peace come to the wedding and make it official, but that there is no ceremony involved - just the signing of papers. The ceremony, then, would be up to us. So, actually, that sounds very similar to the situation in Canada.

But she tells me that most Brazilians would find a marriage without a religious element very strange. So I guess that is my question now.

Is it strange in Brazil to have a wedding that is devoid of any religious content?



Total Posts: 18 | Joined Jan. 2003 | Posted on: 4:58 am on Feb. 17, 2003 | IP
Ze


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You can have your wedding any way you wish it to be, but I suggest you follow her advice.

Total Posts: 93 | Joined Jan. 2003 | Posted on: 7:11 am on Feb. 17, 2003 | IP
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The questions is

if you love the girl,
if for her and her familiy a religious ceremony is important even though for social reasons
what's wrong about bending a little your convictions
and starting the new life with some flexibiity and good will?

that's my two cents. been there. done this.

Total Posts: 211 | Joined Dec. 2002 | Posted on: 7:16 am on Feb. 17, 2003 | IP
Adrianerik


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And my two cents.  Listen to the lady.  I  visited a friend in S„o Paulo and showed her pictures of my friends being married in Jamaica.

She traded me her nursing diploma for the pictures so that she could show them to her friends.  If the look in her eyes is the same as your fiancee then give the girl some inexpensive....but good memories.

Peace

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Trennoche


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Here is a way you can have your cachaca and caipirinha too.

Get married (10 minutes) at any of the government offices called the Salao de Casamento...and then once married have a friend or minister hold a ceremony or celebration outdoors as you wish.

Duck soup...as they say...or...Que legal ! ! !

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Total Posts: 2 | Joined Feb. 2003 | Posted on: 10:27 am on Feb. 17, 2003 | IP
cabecao


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Thanks for the advice people. I was a little shocked this morning when she told me that it just isn't done here (or at least not done very often here) the way I had envisioned it, i.e. strictly civil, but still with ceremony and reception, but I'm starting to come around to accept the religious ceremony plus reception (with an emphasis on the reception, of course). Your sentiments about "listening to the lady" and "bending my convictions" are well-taken. Thanks.


We are both baptised Catholics (severely and intentionally lapsed in my case) and so it would be sensible to have it done by a priest. She tells me that Catholic priests here will not perform a ceremony out of the church - go figure!

Just curious - is this the case in other countries with Catholic priests? Are they limited  to performing their cermonies inside a church?

Anyway, the option we are looking at now is to get an evangelist pastor to do it in a "catholic style" outside.

WHew! I never thought it would be so complicated.

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erjbcdt


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No you can get married anywhere you want in Brazil.  You can have a simple marriage with a priest in a church, or you can have an evangelist.  You can have your marriage in the justice system, and to tell you the truth you can marry almost anywhere.

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Viva Brazil

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Ze


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This limitation is rather new, but yes, cayholic priests cannot perform marriages outside of the church.

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Imontherun


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My friend got married on a huge varanda overlooking a remote beach just a few months ago. No religious ceremony, only a legal one. A judge came along to marry them off and to get the papers signed. Almost everyone there was Brazilian and nobody had a bad word to say about it.   Oh - they were a bit disappointed when the booze ran out.

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Trennoche


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Irmao, when your noiva and you go to (mandatorily)  the salao de casamento to get your marriage license you will see, if you are marrying in a busy city like Rio or SP, that many couples alone and with their families will be all dressed up and getting married right there in the marriage license office (salao de casamento).

I got roped into a Catholic wedding, both of us were/are (not practicing) Catholics, very expensive for the whole deal, from rings to church, priest, flowers, music, party afterwards, clothing; etc., frankly the $ could have bought a nice beach lot somewhere within an hour or 2 of Rio.

While the whole deal was prety cool, Igreja da Gloria overlooking Guanabara Bay...it was so much just a pomp and circumstance waste of hard earned dollars for a few minutes.

If the fiance is working you already...what more down the road.

Caveat Emptor, irmao, caveat emptor.

Jay

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Jay
www.kauai-blue-lagoon.com

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cabecao


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Jay. Funny post for sure. Had me chuckling with the caveat emptor comment and all.

And yeah I've thought of that. And even suggested it to the lady. But she wants her special day. And I want to give it to her. And its not so expensive actually. It will be a small wedding (about 60 people) and I'm thinking I can do it for around 5000 reais. And yeah, that could probably put down a deposit on a place somewhere, but memories are a pretty good investment too.

Anyway, thanks for the advice. ANd yeah, she is working me,... but i kinda like it.  

Cheers

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