For Brazilian President, Obama’s Victory Would Be Spark of Joy to the World

Barack Obama The President of Brazil, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, said that if American senator Barack Obama is finally elected as the next president of the United States, it would be "something extraordinary", comparable to his own victory or that of Bolivia's Evo Morales, the first indigenous president, plus a "spark of joy" for the expectant world.

"The same way Brazil voted in a metallurgic worker, Bolivia an indigenous, Venezuela paratrooper Chavez and Paraguay a bishop (Fernando Lugo) I think it is something extraordinary that the largest economy in the world could have an Afro-American president", said Lula da Silva during his weekend visit to Cuba.

"I also think the whole world is expecting with a spark of joy and hope that moment, even in each of our silent minds we have that expectation: a black man was elected president of the most powerful country in the world".

Lula da Silva added that Latinamerica is going through an "extraordinary period" almost unique in which for the first time "left-wing groups are currently in command in so many countries" and "we hope something similar for our neighbor from the north".

"Let's hope this happens with the world's largest economy", he underlined although admitting that he doesn't know very well either the Democrat Obama or the Republican candidate, John McCain.



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  • dnbaiacu

    [quote]RIC, my dear fellow…
    How may I put it… BUT bluntly…
    Any sauce perhaps???? [/quote]

    😀 😀 😀 😀

    I can’t resist to join you on this one. Ric’s prior reasonings for a McCain win and an Obama loss were so ludricrous. You remember the whole spew about “global image” so “of course” Obama could never be elected? 😀 😀 😀
    Now granted , I am from the train of thought that Obama is only a puppet , as was Bush. But a rational that a black would so necessarily futher taint the image of a country already in crises so there is “no way” he could be elected, doesn’t agree with how deceptive and manipulative politics can be.
    It’s a combo of being racist and “really believing ” in the system with having your racial pride so far overblown that you forget the real power plays of mass manipulation. Get over yourself already! 😀 😉 😀 😉
    YES he should be eating his worms with that type arrogant and politically flawed reasoning. The KKK even knows better than that! 😀 😀 😀
    Hopefully people will get beyond the “face” of America and understand the real “hidden” agendas. This is all so much deeper than most realize. 😉 😥
    Take advantage of this “calm” before the storms ahead.
    Get KNOWLEDGE! 🙂

  • dnbaiacu

    And the story continues….
    [quote]Lula da Silva added that Latinamerica is going through an “extraordinary period” almost unique in which for the first time “left-wing groups are currently in command in so many countries” and “we hope something similar for our neighbor from the north[/quote]
    So interesting to follow. So predictable. So prophetic.
    Looks like everyone is being “hand picked” to me????
    Bloomberg, Zimmerman, Soros, Buffet and some influetial french guy all say we are entering a new era. The world as we know it will change….
    This is so deep and people don’t see through it.
    Deepseated prejudices and attitudes have NOT CHANGED towards racial and social superiority. So the puppets that are being put in place should let anyone with half an eye open KNOW there must be an AGENDA.
    But that is the issue. Most have enjoy “sleep walking” 😉 😥
    No scriptures needed on this. 🙂 😉 😥 😥 😥 😥

  • Ric

    Not Me
    I’m not glad. I hate to be teased. This thread has ruined me whole day, possibly the whole week. I can’t it. Stop, you’re driving me sane!

    Honesty requires that I tell you that I lifted the last sentence above from Spike Jones.

  • Augustus

    Dnb (about Ric)
    Yes, indeed…. I recall various discussions where Ric was either boasting about Republican glories or attacking Obama…
    He is now trying to “slide by” (based on his comments at – section on “us pessismism”)
    I’m glad you have joined me to a collective TEASING of Ric 🙂 🙂 🙂

  • Augustus

    RIC – Jeeves inquires about “serving WORMS”
    RIC, my dear fellow…
    How may I put it… BUT bluntly…
    Any sauce perhaps????

    😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉

  • Augustus

    Exceedingly Grim Republican ProspectsÀ¢€¦ Planet Earth Rejoices…
    (ALTERNATE AMUSING “TITLE”: The Sour Twilight for Alaskan À¢€œMaverick-ingÀ¢€Â LadiesÀ¢€¦) ( 😉 )

    Although wisdom might dictate caution over presumption, and despite the recognition that sensible gentlemen should consider discretion; I can scarcely squelch the irresistible temptation from rejoicing prematurelyÀ¢€¦

    Despite valiant efforts refraining to estimate favorable conclusions regarding significant, fundamental issues; I find myself unable to comply with À¢€œLady WisdomÀ¢€™sÀ¢€Â council and dare presuming that À¢€œLady FortuneÀ¢€Â is contemplating a favorable outcome for Senator Obama tonightÀ¢€¦

    As if in harmony with the upcoming winter months, nightfall appears to be rapidly approaching Alaskan horizons (threatening even the generally bright Arizona deserts); and surprisingly for Arizona; while hundred of thousands of Chicago residents seem to be in the brink of bashing themselves in extravagant festivities tonightÀ¢€¦

    Yet, the impact of the latest developments is so extraordinary that It will shake North America from the Atlantic to the PacificÀ¢€¦

    Most importantly, while the traditionally overbearing delegates of intolerance are basking in dismay, the remaining portion of (civilized) mankind seem destined for a temporary lull from the intrusive shadow of cast by a Republican White HouseÀ¢€¦

    (One must now only conjecture whether gentleman such as RIC À¢€“ our dear fellow blogger À¢€“ would consider honoring previous commitments, risked while engaging into premeditated projectionsÀ¢€¦ If so, when might we expect RIC to (quoting his words) À¢€œeat wormsÀ¢€Â??? A curious mind dares speculatingÀ¢€¦)

  • forrest allen brown

    it all sounds good till they get in
    then the money
    party left and right
    the press .

    it is a very week system as no one
    has ever been fired for not producing results

    not ever being held responsable for any thing they do
    say rob steel .

    with all comities they are week by nature .
    not critical of themselves or there actions .

    but is is the pattern of choice around .

    no matter what happens
    no one can make everyone happy
    and by doing so you fail all the time
    in someones eyes

  • João da Silva

    [quote]No scriptures needed on this.[/quote]

    You could have backed up your arguments with some quotes from Al-Koran. 😉 😀

  • Augustus

    ch-c, while you know that I have grown to appreciate your point of view during the past few months significantly, my concurrence has never been so wholehearted as today, upon reading the your comments regarding the (necessary) actions one would expect from the next U.S.A. President À¢€“ who HOPEFULLY will prove to be Mr. Obama!
    There is no need to further expand upon the following entries, which I quote, endorse and applaud

    [quote]What about if the next U.S. President decides to REDUCE OR EVEN ELIMINATE the gigantic U.S. TRADE DEFICIT ????????


    [quote]The surprises from the next U.S. President wont necessarily come YOUR way !
    Will he be NOT elected by U.S. citizens to work in that direction ?
    Dont you believe the next U.S. President will be as nice as the one YOU criticize the most and allowed you to export that much…TO THEM ??????
    Is the U.S. President not supposed to defend HIS citizens…FIRST ???????????

    You got it 100% right, ch-c!

  • ch.c.

    Ohhhhh…I just found this concerning the 2 candidates. Which goes my way as stated above on TRADE :

    ˢۢ Work to renegotiate NAFTA, the free trade agreement with Canada and Mexico.

    ˢۢ Opposes the free trade agreements with South Korea and Colombia.

    ˢۢ Use trade agreements to spread good labor and environmental standards around the world.

    ˢۢ Supports steep tariffs on imports from China if the Chinese keep their currency from rising.

    ˢۢ Increase and expand assistance offered to workers who lose jobs due to trade and create flexible education accounts to help workers retrain.

    “Allowing subsidized and unfairly traded products to flood our markets is not free trade and it’s not fair. We cannot let foreign regulatory policies exclude American products. We cannot let enforcement of existing trade agreements take a backseat to the negotiation of new ones.”


    ˢۢ Back additional trade agreements and engage in multilateral, regional and bilateral efforts to reduce barriers to trade.

    ˢۢ Supports the free trade agreements negotiated with South Korea and Colombia which are now awaiting Senate approval.

    ˢۢ Would not threaten to impose tariffs on Chinese imports here if China does not allow the value of its currency, the yuan, to rise against the dollar.

    ˢۢ Improve efforts to provide retraining for those who lose their jobs due to imports.

    “If I am elected president, this country will honor its international agreements, including NAFTA, and we will expect the same of others. And in a time of uncertainty for American workers, we will not undo the gains of years in trade agreements now awaiting final approval.”

  • ch.c.

    AND ON……mad of YOUR one way trade tricks

    It wont be reflected in VOLUME but in US$ terms. Meaning higher exports volume…but with depreciated LOCAL currencies !!!!
    It will be nearly the same for Europe and their Euro as for Brazil and your Brl, as for China and the Yuan, or India with the Rupee..

    It already started…if you did not know !!!!!! Both America and the EU will have a recession. And Emerging nations will grow but at a much slower pace. And if you want to keep growing LOCALLY you have no choice but to allow a depreciation of your own currency ! Including Europeans and the Euro by the way !!!!!

    It will be basically a GDP re-balancing…………… when measured in US$ ONLY !!!!!! Not in Local Currencies !
    But—-that will still provide the USA with more wealth…when measured…IN WHATEVER CURRENCIES !!!!!

    Can you catch this and follow me ?

    😀 😉 😀 😉

  • ch.c.

    Furthermore to Joao……
    Robin the Crook and his peers in South America and other emerging nations…are already anxiously waiting to queue…to be “received” at the White House by the next U.S. President !
    Their begging will be…please please please be even more fair than your predecessor and allow us even more trade surplus with Youuuuuuuuuu.!!!!!!

    What about if the next U.S. President decides to REDUCE OR EVEN ELIMINATE the gigantic U.S. TRADE DEFICIT ????????
    I bet there will be endless standing ovations…from U.S. citizens, not citizens from emerging nations ! And believing Brazil will export more to China, while China will export less or at least with a much lower export growth rate….. is more than dubious long term !!!!!!

    Let me already laugh and have my belly with pain And pleasure…if that will happen ! And there is Noooooo reason that wont happen to at least some extend !!!!!! Or…….the next U.S President will oblige YOU TO IMPORT MORE U.S. goods !

    That would be quite fair….in my view !!!!
    Trade is good only if it is not a one way trade as Brazilians and some others are dreaming constantly !!!!!!

    Just think about it…for five minutes !

    The surprises from the next U.S. President wont necessarily come YOUR way !
    Will he be NOT elected by U.S. citizens to work in that direction ?
    Dont you believe the next U.S. President will be as nice as the one YOU criticize the most and allowed you to export that much…TO THEM ??????
    Is the U.S. President not supposed to defend HIS citizens…FIRST ???????????

    In my view…..Robin the Crook and some of his peers are commiting A MONUMENTAL error TO BE AGAINST MCCAIN, IF THEY WANT TO PROTECT THEIR EXPORTS GROWTH !!!!!

    Time will tell !

    What I always noticed is that every new decade has a new THEME ! My bets and my investments are PRO USA – PRO US$ !!!!!!!!

    Every American, most Europeans are mad of YOUR one way trade tricks !!!!!

  • Augustus

    NO BLAME for (MISGUIDED) Supporters of the Republican Party (e.g. RIC) – They are only Humans…
    Since this thread of Brazzil Mag is appropriate to my recent entry posted at (just a few minutes ago – as a reply to ASP), I shall take the liberty to paste the text here for RIC’s benefit…

    Unfortunately some À¢€œReal AmericansÀ¢€Â are blinded by injudicious faith and/or convictions; after all, even the intolerant, biased, misguided members of the group are also liable and entitled to the same type of afflictions, deficiencies, and limitations which constitute the À¢€œHuman ConditionÀ¢€ÂÀ¢€¦

    As such, nobody is in a position to truly blame their lot for endorsing and advocating apparently unbelievable views, such asÀ¢€¦
    – The persistence to support a deceitful, dishonest, and incompetent administrationÀ¢€¦
    – The inability to grasp the extent of the mismanagement of their elected officialsÀ¢€¦
    – The perseverance to justify the re-election of corrupt and/or inept representatives whose acts endanger the future of ALL Americans, for the sheer sake of so-called À¢€œmoral valuesÀ¢€Â their group upholdsÀ¢€¦
    – The gullibility which prevents them from glimpsing beyond shallow promises and unsound policies as the solution for issues cause by similar pledges and identical strategiesÀ¢€¦

    Because some À¢€œReal AmericansÀ¢€Â are only human beings, they are unable accept the failure, ineptitude, and deceitful subterfuge provided by the Republican candidates they supportÀ¢€¦ Mostly for the sheer sake of views and values which may be unacceptable to other Americans and/or were dishonestly pledged to them by hypocritical, insincere candidates from their preferred political party.

  • ch.c.

    Joap “BUT…BUT…BUT, I am exercising my right to maintain the infamous Swiss Neutrality in the U.S. elections.”
    – Contrary to South America Leaders, WE dont interfere with what is NOT our business !
    – Have you heard NON Neutrality for the U.S. elections from whoever EU President ? From China ? Japan ? India ? Russia ?

    – Stupid question Joao, what Bin the Crook will have said if Bush, Sarko, Merkel, Brown or our President will have said PUBLICLY they were in favor of….SERRA ????????? Just think about it !!!!!!

    Hmmmmmmmm….your filthy President once more takes a right that would not have been appreciated if others used the same rights !!!! But coming from a dumbass President, that is not surprising !!!!!!! Chavez feels HE has the same rights ! Same for Fidel Castro or his brother….who were themselves NEVER elected by their population !!!!!!!!!!

  • VinnyCarioca

    No Thank You
    [quote]Joe Biden:
    “Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
    “I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”[/quote]

    This may not resonate with you, my Brazilian friends……….but… brother luckily survived the World Trade Center attack on Sept. 11, 2001. My youngest brother fought in both Gulf wars and I missed the El Al shooting by one hour at LAX on 7/4/02. I can not honestly tell you that I have confidence in a man that served less time in the Senate than John McCain served in a POW prison.

  • Ric

    You bozo, you are the one that introduced race into the thread, above, even using the term “mixed”, then blame me for using the word pardo.

    A thing of beauty is a joy forever, including your demeanor such as it is.

  • Ric

    Joy to the World
    Obama’s come. Let earth receive her king!

    Let every heart

    Prepare him room

    And socialist doctrine bring

    A definite leftward swing

    Judicial, and legislative leftward swing.

  • João da Silva

    Ch.C !
    [quote]Yeahhhhhhh Viva Augustus !!!!! [/quote]

    I remember how you ill treated our aristocratic buddy Augustus and now you say Viva. Not that I mind your saying “Viva Augustus” and I fully endorse your slogan.

    BUT…BUT…BUT, I am exercising my right to maintain the [i]infamous[/i] Swiss Neutrality in the U.S. elections. 😉

  • Augustus

    RIC – Shocking as usual – SOCIAL CLASS versus RACIAL issues…
    Ric, although you may like Niteroy and some claim you live in Manaus (although I could HARDLY IMAGINE anyone electing to live anywhere in the Amazon area), your attitude is TYPICALLY American – looking at the world with RACIAL LENGTH…

    BLACK / WHITE / PARDO / YELLOW / BROWN (and possibly any blue alien – LOL)… IS NOTHING and WILL be NOTHING when born in the Lower classes and meets the MISFORTUNE of lacking education and exposure to CULTURE…

    As such, I could NOT care less if a black and white person have three children – one of each color…
    WHAT COUNTS is WHERE they live and the EDUCATION they have….


  • Ric

    Ralph Nader
    Has been quoted as saying that Obama has no nuts. So that would make Jackson’s statement a moot point.

    It’s getting crazy out there.

  • Ric

    Some of the above points
    Are well taken. Mr. Obama would appear to be a conflicted white guy with black skin. All of us know Brazilian families in which the same parents give birth to a white kid, a black kid, and some pardos. If Obama had been white, he would probably have stayed in the white community. He was evidently raised by white people. White free-thinkers.So Jesse Jackson was caught on tape accusing Obama of talking down to blacks, and Jackson wanted to cuts Obama’s nuts off. Is he black enough? was the question the black community was asking when the campaign began.If he can’t deliver and people are disappointed, no group will turn on Obama as will the African-Americans.If Obama wins, will people start calling President Lula, “Sparky”? “O frabjous day……He chortled in his joy”.

  • João da Silva

    [quote]Firstly (and foremost), Senator Obama is a HIGHLY educated man, who graduated as a Lawyer from a TOP American University [/quote]

    Did you know that Mr.Obama was a student of a Brazilian who is now a minister in LulaÀ‚´s government?

  • CH.C.

    Yeahhhhhhh Viva Augustus !!!!!
    Quite a different critical tone since you joined the forum !

    Let me say : MY HAT !

    South America is governed by populists, ignorants, crooks, corrupted to the roots, cheaters and liars !
    The relative exception is Chile !

    And this gang of South Americans wants to EXPORT their theories of LOSERS !

    They cant develop anything without FOREIGN currencies loans because THEIR own interests rates are WAYYYYYYYY TOOOOO HIGH ! And they protect these high rates to benefit their minorty elite and their pensions funds. That inexorably endded and will continue to end in their own….currency debacles !

    Brazil criticizes the EU and USA agricultural subsidises that is not beneficial for Brazil, but Brazil subisidizes COFFEE that is not even produced in developed countries !!!!! The BNDES subsidzes not only agriculture as developed nations do, but also ALL their
    NON agricultural sectors. Even Odebrecht got a BNDES loan at the TJLP rate to build a power plant in Ecuador !!!!!
    Someone wants to buy a tractor, no problem for a subsidized loan & interests rate, provided the tractor is built in…..Brazil !

    Quite strange that there is enough subsidized loans for infrastructure to be built by Brazilians companies OUTSIDE Brazil.
    BUT NOT ENOUGH SUBSIDIZED LOANS for infrastructures…..IN BRAZIL !!!!!!
    yESSSSSSS……Brazilian companies have to find foreign infrastructure contracts, instead of developing their own country infrastructures. Whoaaaaaa then not surprised that Brazil remain with 5 % of paved roads despite a multi years economic growth !!!!! Same is true with the Middle East ! Except the Brazilian government and companies decided to market their NON expertise at the top of the oil prices !!!!! Quite UNclever timing ! Most projects were already signed and given to developed nations companies. And the quality of the works could have been checked with previous works done in the developed nations.
    NOT IN BRAZIL…by definition !!!!!! Just look at the quality of YOUR infrastructure. Such as the SP metro….CRATER !!!!!!!!!
    Or your NON paved, or better yet your NO LONGER PAVED ROADS !!!!!!!!!!!!! Sure….sometime ago a few of them WERE PAVED !!!!!!!

    When oil prices were very high it was obviously due to the USA, despite the USA has Nooooooo consumption growth, even a declining consumption.
    When food prices were very high, last April, it was due to the USA and their corn/ethanol production. Now prices are very low. Does the corn/ethanol CRITICS still holds ???????? smiles
    Better yet, VeraSun, the U.S. second largest ethanol company just went…BANKRUPT, despite the actual low corn prices.

    Same for sugardane/ethanol. Scientifically and maths proven with a blue face that sugarcane ethanol was profitable at US$ 35.- oil equivalent !
    And despite sugar prices went down from 2005 and oil prices went skyrocketing, Brazilian ethanol companies made/make losses for the last 4 quarters, even when oil traded at above US$ 120.- ! What a real SCAM it was !!!!!
    That reminds me of the Brazilian scams in Ostriches and Teak plantations investments that ended with….BIG LOSSES !
    But record LOSSES must be broken…… on the upside !
    They used the same spreadsheet as Banks did ! smiles

    South American promises will remain CHEATS & LIES for eternity. This is in their genes !!!!!!
    To South Americans, suffice to compliment them, caress their neck, and they will plunge blindly due to their ego and pride !
    They will work hard, with our loans, until they OVER PRODUCE !!!!!!

    Classic and well known trick !

    😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉 😀 😉

  • Augustus

    SIGNFICANT DISTINCTION BETWEEN SENATOR OBAMA and the Ignorant Lower class “rulers” of Brazil, Venezuela and Brazil…
    There is no basis of comparison…
    Firstly (and foremost), Senator Obama is a HIGHLY educated man, who graduated as a Lawyer from a TOP American University
    Secondly, Mr. Obama’s family, although with modest income, had middle-class background and values
    Finally (and still irrelevant for Lula’s argument), Mr. Obama has a “mixed-race” background (which is acually an even more serious issue in the mind of racist Americans, by the way).

    UNLIKE SENATOR OBAMA, the idiotic Brazilian (self-proclaimed) “ruler” (as well and the Bolivian Indian and the Venezuelan army-monkey) is an UNEDUCATED Moran who grew up in the midst of highly disagreeable circumstances in either backward, impoverished sectors of South America and/or working as manual laborers (or army rats) in better sectors of their respective countries…

    In fact, the very presidency of LULA, EVO and CHAVEZ (the Monkey) demonstrate why members of the LOWER CLASSES in Third World Countries (unless they happen to have overcome their background and undergone the necessary education – along with exposure to the “proper circles”) should be prevented from positions of Political Leadership…

  • CH.C.

    The same way Brazil voted in a metallurgic worker, Bolivia an indigenous, Venezuela paratrooper Chavez and Paraguay a bishop (Fernando Lugo) I
    None of them are Africans descendants….to my knowledge !
    Obama has not the patetic populism and rethorics style than the above corrupted to the roots JUNKIES !!!!!

    Better yet Obama is very well educated……contrary to the above idiots and ignorants.
    Just imagine if a junkie like the ones named above would be elected President of the USA : NO MORE TRADE DEFICIT…using the same theories as Lula, Morales and Chavez!!!!!
    Smiles !!!!!
    Guess who will be the most penalized.
    Laugh….laugh….laugh….laugh !
    Hell would not be too far from….South America and Asia.
    But.-…but…..Bin the Liar already told you more than once that Brazil is….IMMUNE !!!!!!
    And he promised that Brazil will have an economic growth rate of over 5 % for yeaaaaaaars to come.
    But first he needed to modify the maths methodology ! Still not enough for…2008 ! smiles
    Same for Lula first election when he promised 10 millions new jobs during his first REIGN ! Reality was in fact….6 millions !
    And some of these new jobs were crreated in your already CROWDED Bureaucracy !!!!!

    Hopefully Obama will not spend his time on such things as COFFEE WITH THE PRESIDENT (weekly), or 4-8 hours (weekly) mediatized speeches as Chavez the Clown ! This is brainwashing. This is making people BLIND !
    Quite typical in Banana Republics disguised in Democracies !

    Ohhhhhh and…..until not so long ago (2005- 2006) Bin the Crook called Bush….MY FRIEND. Short Memory ?
    Never ever trust a South American friendship in general or a Brazilian in particular should remain a…..GOLDEN RULE !!!!!!
    Proven so many times !!!!! Just look at your history !

    😥 😮

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