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Dengue May Have Already Killed Over 50 People in Bahia, Brazil

Dengue mosquito Dengue, the mosquito transmitted disease, which has caused havoc in the heartland of South America and at least five countries, has now been reported in the northeast of Brazil where authorities confirmed Monday the spread of the disease with a death toll of 25 people since the beginning of the year and 4.751 new cases reported in the last week.

The Health Secretariat of the State of Bahia also revealed that another 26 deaths, with dengue symptoms are under investigation at the coroner's lab.

So far this year, 21.407 cases have been reported in Bahia almost three times the number of last year and most of them are concentrated in seven municipalities. One of the towns is Porto Seguro a first line international seaside resort with three dengue deaths confirmed.

Brazil's Health minister José Gomes Temporão, who participated in a dengue prevention seminar in Salvador, the capital of Bahia, said that one of the causes of the outbreak, spread and deaths can be tracked to recent elections last October when municipal authorities changed in many counties.

"We warned the mayors of the importance of fighting the disease during the transition period, but this did not happen in many cases. There was a discontinuity in prevention tasks and over 40% of health related elected officials were replaced", said Minister Gomes Temporão.

Meanwhile Paraguay reported that the number of confirmed cases has climbed to 450, which are 51 more than last week with the disease spreading evenly in urban areas.

In neighboring northern Argentina, in the province of Salta, which recently suffered devastating mudslides, the number of confirmed cases reached 117, another 600 have been described as suspicious and two deaths, following blood tests in Buenos Aires, have been confirmed as dengue.

Moreover six of the confirmed cases are of the more virulent variant, hemorrhagic dengue which can cause death.

To the north of Salta, in Bolivia which this tropical season has been the country most punished by the Aedes Aegypti mosquito, with at least 27 deaths confirmed and 60.000 cases reported has been receiving from overseas donations of fumigation equipment and chemicals to help combat the mosquito larvae which breed and proliferate in stagnant waters, following the intense summer rains.

And towards the Pacific, Peru launched last week a national prevention campaign to fight the mosquito after having admitted at least 5.000 confirmed cases of dengue.

Suspicious cases are usually two to three times the confirmed.

Dengue causes head aches, abdominal pains, fatigue, diarrhea, vomiting, loss of appetite and spirit and acute dehydration. The hemorrhagic variant, the double bite of the mosquito, leads to internal bleeding and has a very high death rate.

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  • Joe Stalin

    Dear Mr.Daniels,

    Thank you so much for remembering me and all the good things I did to our country. It is so refreshing to read the unbiased comments of someone that has studied the history deeply. As you know, the West always called me by several derogatory names for unjustifiable reasons.It took lots of courage for a historian like you to resurrect my name and justify all the deeds I accomplished to project Mother Russia into a great world power.

    We the Russians will come back to be a great power once again, with or without the blessings of that “Gentleman” in Rome.

    Thanks once again and if you have an opportunity to visit Moscow and meet Vladamir, please do give my blessings to him.

  • João da Silva

    asp
    [quote]dont worry , joao, i couldnt kick him off the forum if i wanted…[/quote]

    Thanks ASP, I know that you a true believer in freedom of speech.

    As for your comment:

    [quote]joao, im surpised you couldnt come up with the obvious answer i did about how 6,000,000 jews were exterminated. this chumps drivel could be beleived by another chump somewhere if these simple 1 plus 1 answers arnt brought up to counter his extraordinairy fiction[/quote]

    I must confessed that it did slip off my mind. But, you did raise the right question and strangely Mr.Daniels hasn’t answered it. May be he is verifying the demographic data of that period in question in several of the countries you had listed in your previous post.

    I am still unsure if Mr.Daniels is preaching Marxist dogma to us or testing our (at least my) limited knowledge of history, geography and geopolitics.One thing I noticed, though, is he likes to talk in riddles and tell me to read some material ,thus giving me some homework to do. He somehow reminds me of a school teacher I had in my youth!! Another thing of interest is he sounds authoritative as well authoritarian.

    Well, I am researching some of the material he told me to read within my limited time and I shall come out with further questions. I wish young Dnb and Augustus would join in this discussion either to contest or confirm Mr.DanielÀ‚´s viewpoints. The last time I heard from DnB, he was complaining about the lack of interesting issues to discuss in this site!

    Mr.Daniels has also said the following:

    [quote]I have a picture of General Sikorski and General Himler hugging each other over a polinaise. [/quote]

    If he has one, why hasn’t he posted it for all of us to see? Either he doesn’t have it or he does not know how to use the Icons in the comment box to post a picture or copy and paste a quote.

    In general, after reading his comments, I breath a sigh of relief that I was not born nor lived in Poland during the WW2 !! In the meantime, you keep safe from the “Cockroaches” of which he has warned us!!!

  • asp

    dont worry , joao, i couldnt kick him off the forum if i wanted…
    im just letting old paranoid jd that no one is kicking him off the forum like he thinks people do….my obgective was to let him know that he has stepped over into the realm of fiction

    i have no power or desire to kick anyone off any forum

    joao, im surpised you couldnt come up with the obvious answer i did about how 6,000,000 jews were exterminated. this chumps drivel could be beleived by another chump somewhere if these simple 1 plus 1 answers arnt brought up to counter his extraordinairy fiction

    like i said , he is now my quintisetial example of marxist dogma taken to the extreme

  • JACK DANIELS

    Senor da Silva
    , “but let me assure you that CIA is doing a sloppy job and wasting your tax dollars”

    This is really not something you should ever say to anyone and print. First, it is incorrect and secondly, having a cavalier entity like this and thinking of it as some something that can be dismissed can be fatal.

    Moreover, the first law of war is to never let your enemy know what you think about him or as Napolean once said “Never let your enemy know he is your enemy.”

    The trouble with the CIA IS THAT they are like cockaroaches. You only see one or two while hundreds more are hidden in the woodwork, behind the walls etc. etc. Stalin learned that all too late. That is why he closed his country to all foreigners and ordered people to have passes.He wanted to know who left the country; who came in. He left nothing to chance. The US then claimed that no one was free. But, if you want to be unmolested, that is kind of like the price you pay. If you want the plague, it comes in the form of religious missionaries, newpaper reporters, etc.

    When Fidel and Che were in the hills, they always had these cockaroaches in their midsts. They cost them dearly.But, our propoganda machine has it that they are the bad guys when they put one of their cockaroaches up against the wall and shoot him. Look at Eva Morales and the problems he is having and look who came out of the woodwork when they tried to get rid of Chavez. There are lots of people and the US will spend the national budget just to overthrow a country. Moreover, if you have something they want like Anaconda or Lumber or any number of raw materials, they will be investing time and money to get their people democratically elected and be damned Brazil. And, if they don’t have the time, they will just overthrow you like what happened to poor Allende and Senor Oberon of Mexico.

    As for Bernard Baruch, so little is known about him. Of course he has 5 biographies and an autobiography, but still, very little is known about him. In one of his biographies by James Grant,BERNARD BARUCH;THE WALL STREET SPECULATOR,you see a speculator and a wall street junkie but you don’t really see the cockaroach in him in. Still, the book gives you a tie in to Wall Street and American Foreign Policy based on the natural resources of a country. That is my belief. Wall Street thinks nothing of owning Nigerian Oil to the disadvantage of the people of Nigeria. The fat cats on wall street have no interest in the daily lives of the people in Nigeria, their education, their roads, etc. etc. etc. For the dividend tagged stocks, the value is all that concerns people. If there are people in the Nigerian Government that are concerned for that status quo and care not for the welfare of its people, that is fine with America. But, let a government move in and interfere with the profit structure…let a government nationalize that oil for the welfare of its people, then we have another matter. That means we have another jerk like Chavez who needs to be overthrown.

    If the past serves as a model, I suspect that Brazil will lose its sovereignty to Wall St as will all of South America. The cockaroaches that you claim are doing a “sloppy Job” are all around waiting to pounce; waiting to elect their own man; waiting to take over your government. Waiting to take over all of Latin America. We need the Riches of Brazil to satisfy the hunger of Wall Street.

    You must see that Bernard Baruch was at the center of an invisible government. In 1913, he purchased the US government for Woodrow Wilson who became the honorary vice-president of the World Zionist Movement. That movement then moved to New York and Washington and was headquatered in Crown Heights where my friend Trotsky would often visit secretly and not so secretly. Baruch and his father pretended it was just business or government, but it was more than that. And the “more than that” is what everyone dares not talk about.

    As for me, I have not yet been certified as a paranoid schitzophrenic but when that happens, I will gladly announce it and if it does not happen, let me say that if you are sane in this world, you need to be certified insane.

  • João da Silva

    asp
    [quote]buddy, im not kicking you off the forum,[/quote]

    If you had decided to kick Mr.Daniels off the forum, I would have been very disappointed and considered your decision as rather unbecoming a scholar and gentleman such as your good self. You may kick him off your brain, but rest assured that he is not off mine. By now, you must know that I like to hear “Conspiracy” as well as “Revisionist” theories and take my own decisions.

  • asp

    and im using you as the quntisential example of the comunist , capatalist hating anti semetic…
    ….conspiricy theory sappped , stalin supporting , dumb dogmad mantra until death , chump that is driving this world into the ground along with the fundimental all religous fanatacs and the greedy hyper capatalists ( i hate them too) , and the racists and arms dealers

  • asp

    jd…..your knowledge of history sucks…
    fiction is really cool , isnt it ?

    you are a deufuss….hmmmmmmmmmm 6,000,000 jewish people…..how did they get executed if poland only has 3,000,000 ?……………………………………DOH……..

    they shipped them from every country in europe they over ran , austria, germany itself, france, holland, italy, the soviet union etc etc etc etc ……….like ann franks hiding in a families house in another country than poland…..do you get that ? can your paranoid , conspiricy sapped , prejudice brain posibly wrap itself aroing that ?

    that just blew your whole everyting about anything , theories…..your credibility is like spilled yogurt…im over and out with you , buddy, im not kicking you off the forum, im kicking you out of my brain…..

  • João da Silva

    Jack Daniels
    A fascinating essay written by you, Mr.Daniels. Since I was born after the WW2, I came to know about the pre and post war history only through the books written by your compatriots and the Brits (Some translated into our language and some in English). I do recall reading about Bernard Mannes Baruch who was a very powerful figure in your government. As you will readily agree with me, such books are written by “Victors” and tend to give a lopsided view of the history. The books written about Patton, Marshall, Eisenhower, etc;talk more about their martial valors than their questioning about the orders they had to take from their C-IN-C and had to implement against their will. Few comments on your latest entry:

    [quote]I have a picture of General Sikorski and General Himler hugging each other over a polinaise.[/quote]

    I wouldn’t doubt it , because I have seen a picture of Rumsfeld and Saddam Hussein shaking hands with each other. Now we know the fates of Saddam and Himmler! Unfortunately the history repeats itself. As a fellow blogger of ours Mr.Brown likes to say “The wars are fought by men[i] too afraid not[/i] to fight”. But I always like to qualify this statement saying that “The wars are fought sponsored by men too afraid not to fight with each other, but perfectly willing to outsource this task to their respective young followers”.

    [quote]If you were to check the Jewish population of Poland and Ukraine, they did not have 6 million. The short count was 3 million.
    How 6 million died is beyond my comprehension.[/quote]

    This is not the first time someone is asking the question. The last time some one raised this was an American!!

    [quote]However, I do understand the power of invisible hand here in America. They control what you and I see here. They control the internet. And, as a result,. they control what I can say and do. You may think that I am playing some sort of victim but I am really trying to say that I know what has been done to me and I know why there are hundreds of sites that I can not post or speak because THEMS watch me in real time and stop me in real time.[/quote]

    I don’t know about this, Mr.Daniels. Many Americans are fighting it and I still think that the freedom of Speech can not be removed that easily from your countrymen. May be you are getting paranoiac. It is not good to adopt this attitude.

    [quote]Everything else costs big time. Of course, I should have mentioned another freedom that I have…to pay my taxes.[/quote]

    Not any different from here, Mr.Daniels. I also pay my taxes and get nothing in return. If I have to complain to someone, now we have “Call Centers” to whom you can do , but it is just like talking to a “wailing” wall!

    [quote]My taxes keep me free and assure me that the CIA is in Brazil killing all the terrrorrrist. [/quote]

    You may think so, but let me assure you that CIA is doing a sloppy job and wasting your tax dollars, Sir. 😀

  • JACK DANIELS

    Senor da Silva
    I saw many pictures in books and in film of the Polish government officials trucking with the german nazi officials before and during the war. Movie films made under Polish occupation show a harmony of action between Poles and Germans with very little angst between the military and the civilian Populations. I realize the purpose of the many work camps/prisons or concentration camps and/or vocational schools that were used to dump enemies of the state and of the germans but outside of that, these prisons were not as bad as the West painted them. I have documented evidence of protocols set up between the Jewish Councils and the German Government which indicate that they were like father and sons to each other.I have a picture of General Sikorski and General Himler hugging each other over a polinaise. The camp inside German, for real prisoners and for special prisoners, DAchau, was responsible for the death of one Jew, according the US document that I own. On the other hand, the US murdered the entire staff by hanging all except the doctor and a few others who did research on Hi-altitude chambers using prisoners.
    If you were to check the Jewish population of Poland and Ukraine, they did not have 6 million. The short count was 3 million.
    How 6 million died is beyond my comprehension. You could also ask that excommunicated Bishop what he thinks.

    Here in America, we had an anti-semite General, Patton, who did not have a kind word for Russians or for Jews.If you read his comments of the time, he directed his anger at Truman, Eisenhower, and others over the policies that he was forced to carry out regarding the Jews. He had to evacuate germans from their homes and instal Jewish Families. You might also wonder what happened to General Marshal and his anger over what was going down in the State Department at the time regarding the Jews. It seems that Truman was working with the King of the Jews, Bernard Mannes Baruch and the entire US government was run by the Neocons from Wall St. and the World Zionist Organization under his administration. The Wall street crowd had taken over to run the Federal Government. They still do. They promote Alice in Wonderland and and other Fairy Tales. They also gave us Hitler In Springtime, a wonderful musical. Have you seen it?

    As I said earlier, you really like to play the role of the victim and of course there is nothing wrong in it if it servers your ultimate purpose. As far as I can see, nobody has called you a “Holocaust Denier” so far and all we wanted to do was to understand your point of view.

    I am sorry that I sound like I am playing a role. However, I do understand the power of invisible hand here in America. They control what you and I see here. They control the internet. And, as a result,. they control what I can say and do. You may think that I am playing some sort of victim but I am really trying to say that I know what has been done to me and I know why there are hundreds of sites that I can not post or speak because THEMS watch me in real time and stop me in real time. I can not post, I don’t dare trust e-mail, and there are many things I can not do. In short, I have to watch my back.

    I know, “this is the land of the Free” and that through the breath of this nation we have “Freedom of Speech” Freedom to be secure in our houses from unnecessary invasion of privacy and all those other freedoms everybody sings about. But, Mr. da Silva, the only thing that is free in America are kittens and a free insult if you excercise your freedom. Everything else costs big time. Of course, I should have mentioned another freedom that I have…to pay my taxes. My taxes keep me free and assure me that the CIA is in Brazil killing all the terrrorrrist.

    And as for George Walker Bush, isn’t it wonderfull that he found a friend in Pooty?

  • João da Silva

    Jack Daniels
    You are right Mr.Daniels. Poland has no Dengue (This thread is really about it, though we are discussing other issues).

    [quote]As for writing in this magazine, can’t you see how taboo this subject is even here. Everytime I bring it up, I am called a holocaust denier. It’s “RIDICULAS”.[/quote]

    As I said earlier, you really like to play the role of the victim and of course there is nothing wrong in it if it servers your ultimate purpose. As far as I can see, nobody has called you a “Holocaust Denier” so far and all we wanted to do was to understand your point of view. But as a good Stalinist, you immediately tun us into villains. Personally I am not hurt.

    [quote]why did the million or so exterminated Jews fly the coup and run into the arms of their lover, the US? [/quote]

    Are you implying that there was not a mass extermination of the Jews and it was a carefully mounted propaganda operation to discredit Hitler and enable all of them to emigrate from Poland to good ole U.S. of A ?

    [quote]I wonder why it was that Hiter could unify eastern and western Europe, but he couldn’t touch a hair on the head of Poland?[/quote]

    Ok, here we ask the same question. But, reading the history of Poland a bit, one could say that that country was controlled by around 500 landed barons who were the government. If any important decision had to be made, [i]all[/i] the 500 barons have vote unanimously. If one disagreed, the motion was dropped.That enabled both the Germans and Russians to walk over that country. Poland was a sort of no manÀ‚´s land, according to what I know. But, I am not sure if the Jews were the landed barons. After the WW2, that country went communist (with the blessings of your idol Stalin) and I do not know if the “Barons” were also given safe passage to U.S.A., leaving the “Serfs” to fend to themselves. But one of the finest Poles to occupy an important positions in your government is Zbigniew Brzezinski whom you should be proud of. So I really do not understand about your complaints about the Polish Jews.

    [quote]ASP: are you one of them Polish Jews?[/quote]

    I don’t think so, but I would rather let him answer that question.

    One thing I would bring to your attention is that you never ever criticized GWB, the WASP from the “Eastern Establishment”, when he called the Muslims “Islamo-Fascists”. Why so? By any chance, are you a WASP too?

    Thank you so much for your attention, Mr.Daniels and please feel free to express your views in this forum.

  • JACK DANIELS

    Poland and the hasids didn’t suffer from Dengue…
    I always like to see the defendent in the dock when the Jury says “Guilty” or “not guilty”. You can instantly see if the person was guilty or not guilty by their reaction. same here. Sorry if you took offense to my fishing expedition.

    As for writing in this magazine, can’t you see how taboo this subject is even here. Everytime I bring it up, I am called a holocaust denier. It’s “RIDICULAS”.

    I wonder why it was that Hiter could unify eastern and western Europe, but he couldn’t touch a hair on the head of Poland? Was it not Poland that caused Churchill to declare war on Germany? Was it not Poland that caused Churchill and Roosevelt to start talks with Stalin and were not most of all the negotions between East and West really about Poland? I wonder why that was? But most of all, after it was apparent that Russia was not going to give an inch on Poland, why did the million or so exterminated Jews fly the coup and run into the arms of their lover, the US?

    ASP: are you one of them Polish Jews?

  • asp

    it sounds like “have wikepedia will bs forums…”
    in cuba in 56? you got age…..(yeah right) if you were 20 back then , you would be 70 something now

    yeah, it doesnt matter 1/10 of the population fled cuba,the cubans can get anything they want at the supermarket , right (the arcaic american embargo only means they cant trade with theusa, they can get anything they want from a lot ofpeople)? they can pick the doctor of their choice right ? and no body wants to leave there at all, right?

    the dictatorship did ban the saxaphone at one time because it was too associated with american jazz ( sure wasnt invented there but incredible american artists did things with a saxaphone that had never been done before)

    oh yeah, i see that the polish jews really started everything in world war 2, that is really logical, its their fault….

    i mean its no surprise trotsky wanted to try to revolt against stalin, nobody is saying that didnt happen, but, you got stalins notes. trotsky didnt trust the germans and stalin did…..trotsky was right…elimination is the majic world, the comunists are masters of elimination of the oposition, and , and i do mean masters of the art….they have the millions of numbers on their side……i think you would like life in north korea , jd

    man i really dont have the time or energy to mount a huge thesis on this forum refuting comunism, so how about some nut shell stuff:

    comunism goes against human nature, its about having the state tell you what to do all the time. your statement about a dictator is ridiculas, ridiculas ridiculas, i cant waste my time with your cardboard mantra for the party dogmad soviet propaganda page , dated before kruschev (this is a rare find folks, a stalinist) that you are probably pulling our leg with anyway. no i dont want anyone telling me what to do all the time….

    fiction is a wonderful thing , jd……

  • João da Silva

    Jack Daniels
    Mr.Daniels, I do appreciate your taking your precious time off to respond to me and thanks once again for your enlightening lecture which, I must confess, helped to enhance my limited understanding of Geopolitics. While I will be in hot pursuit of the sources of reference you have indicated, I have a couple of questions for you regarding your latest comment:

    [quote]Also, if you are a CIA agent or one of their puppets on a string, check out the State Department library under Franklin Roosevelt.[/quote]

    What makes you suspect that I am a CIA agent or one of their puppets?

    [quote]Unfortunately, the jews of poland and the Ukraine were also covertly in bed with Churchill and Roosevelt as well as in bed with Adolph Hitler. All the jews supported Hitler in the defeat of Communism.[/quote]

    If that was the case, why did Adolph Hitler killed so many Jews? BTW, I am not Jewish nor worship the “Vampire God in Rome” you mentioned about in one of your previous entries!

    Your “Revisionist Theories” are very fascinating, Mr.Daniels. I urge you to publish an article in this magazine, so that more people can see the history from a different perspective.

  • JACK DANIELS

    2nd sources
    Senor da Silva:

    That book about the Trotskyites is as real as can be about the trials. You can at least look up Ambassador Joseph Davies, and his books and read one of them. He talks about these trials. Also, if you check out the NY Times microfiche, you will see a notation and probably a writeup on the trials. If you need further references, ask. Also, if you are a CIA agent or one of their puppets on a string, check out the State Department library under Franklin Roosevelt. They keep detailed records. Finally, there was a disgraced State Department giant who authored several books on the subject, George Keenan. He was also a guy like you who hated Communism. If you dislike Stalin, perhaps you can find comfort in Ayn Rand, a poor little Russian waif, who wrote CapitalismTHE UNKNOWN IDEAL. Right.
    Anyway, the invisible government portrayed in the millions of criminal acts was attributed to Trotskyite who had a favorite hang-out in Crown Heights NY with the Hasids.He was later to die in Mexico City after many attempts on his life. In his works, he also talks about these trials and admits that Vyshinski, the prosecuting attorney for the military Tribunal, found him out in the death of Kirov. He also admits indirectly, that he murdered the the writers and his son Maxim Gorky.

    When I say they murdered millions, I mean exactly that. It was not Stalin behind all those crimes. His only crime was that he discovered them too late in the game when Kirov was murdered and when he thought he would be next. It was then that the machinery of state, 1932?, went into action to flush out literally thousands of russians in on the scheme. In that sense, he killed thousands and in many cities. Many of them were organized by the Trotskyites. Many of them had to die. Don’t you agree? They were inimical to the state. They had already accomplished untold damage.

    After the trials of the trotskyites, Germany still invaded and took the same territory she had planned to take in the 30’s. The US and Britain were right behind Hitler cheering him on. That is why they never set up a 2nd Front. They hoped Hitler would destroy Stalin and communism. Sadly, it was not to be. Unfortunately, the jews of poland and the Ukraine were also covertly in bed with Churchill and Roosevelt as well as in bed with Adolph Hitler. All the jews supported Hitler in the defeat of Communism. They killed millions in this war. It was unbelievably brutal. But it was not the fault of Stalin.

    Exactly why was the US and Britain involved in this? They say it was for the Defense of Democracy. Bull shit.

    Did you see how quickly the Americans dumped their best friends after the war and continued the same covert war after WWII? What are friends for anyway. Capitalism….or the world Zionist were behind all of this. They are the murderers. Just like in Gaza.

  • João da Silva

    Simpleton
    [quote]One thing I do worry about (for your revered soul) is that if you start to take a liking too much to this “LMAO” thing, it may very well do some serious damage to what little is left of your personage that so many of us do so cherish![/quote]

    Simpleton, thanks for reminding me of my manners. However, Mr.Jack Daniels is not a despot, but a great debater. He likes to launch controversial topics and stimulate lively discussions! You might have forgotten him, but I haven’t!!

    I am awaiting ASPÀ‚´s comments on the last entry of Mr.Daniels.

  • Simpleton

    Jo a D S
    Joao my dear esteemed friend, based on the tail end of your last post I can see you may be a bit under stress (or beginning to slip off that deep end!). This despot, with his “estate sailing” acquistion of more or less unaccessible material, has you falling into his trap? The occasional bout of Deja Vu is okay – that happens to the best of us, thinking that some how in some way you have a distant fond memory of or some sort of strong connection to someone, that too isn’t all bad whether it be true or not. One thing I do worry about (for your revered soul) is that if you start to take a liking too much to this “LMAO” thing, it may very well do some serious damage to what little is left of your personage that so many of us do so cherish!

  • João da Silva

    Jack Daniels
    Jack, after reading your long winded comments, I got a DÀƒ©jÀƒÂ  vu. We have met before in this site if not in earlier life. A very good try, though. Good to hear from you again . 😀

    BTW, what is this bullshit about the book that is not available to the public-at-large? 😉

    I am indeed LMAO! I almost fell into your trap. 🙂

  • JACK DANIELS

    democracy Now
    Senor de Silva:

    I am sure you realize that I was speaking in riddles in order to make you accept a common problem which you shared with this audience that the poor are always the problem.The trouble in Niger, Nigeria, and in brazil as well as many other South American paradises is that 99% of the people are a waste product of the remaining ruling class and vested interests of the State. Those with the money and the means of production think that they own the wealth of the nation like oil or gold or the emerald concessions or copper or tin mines etc. etc. etc. Tell us how it is that you own what it is that you own?

    As for Cuba, I am old enough to know Cuba before the revolution and old enough to know the that it was the labeled the whorehouse of America where Sugar was king and the people wore the rats and vermin of the system that was owned by the American Sugar companies. I was in Cuba before 1956 and before the revolution as well as after it. I know what was achieved for the everyday man in the way of housing, schooling, health, and the general welfare. By all the standards that are used to decide what the Standard of Living is for the average groundling, Under Fidel and now his brother, living conditions for the man on the street is a thousand times better. Even the whores are a lot healthier and happier. So what issue do you take with them?

    As for democracy, the people of Cuba chose the Revolution and they are fiercly proud of it. You call it a dictatorship but there is really nothing wrong with Dictatorship. In your own family, I suspect you are a dictator. Does it mean that your wife and children are somehow opressed? Somehow disadvantaged by that form of control?

    As for democracy per se, I go along with Plato… Have you ever read his Republic ? Did you understand what democracy was really all about? In the Democracy of Athens, it was about slavery. In American Democracy, it is about the same thing..ie. Slavery.The Greeks had a constant series of wars and enslaved the whole greek world until they ran into Archibiades and Socrates and the Spartans and Sardinia or Sicily when they ran out of conquests. Democracy is another Ponzi scheme of the Rich to enslave everyone and steal everything. Look at what Just happened on Wall Street and in America in the so called Great Democracy of the US? Everyone but the schemers got screwed and sad to say, the US government is run by criminals.The whole capitalist system is bankrupt.
    Here in America, they have this bullshit constitution which argues that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with inalienable rights and among those rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The constitution is just public relations and meaningless. The American Indian was never afforded the right to life, or liberty or to any of the Laws of the United States. The african slave never had those rights. Many plantations in South America, the Caribean, and the pacific had slaves who were supposed to have had the blessiings of our democracy and constitution who never the less suffered the same end as the American Indian and the African slave. So much for democracy, life, liberty, or happiness for millions of lost souls.
    Your god, that vampire in Rome, actually gave the world to Portugal and Spain and blessed the role of conquistadors in Mexico and South America and annointed the various explorers. They too, humanitarian and blessed as they were, took their take in the exploited wealth and rapine. Were they also enlightened democrats?

    But you argue that you are entitled to your riches so long as you got them [stole them] fair and square. In Nigeria, in Peru, in a lot of states, the question hinges on ownership of the country. Does the wealth belong to the few capitalists for their benefit or does it belong to the people. Why can’t it belong to everyone? Why can’t a sort of contract be struck where capital and labor work hand in hand. Why does it always have to be a master-slave phenomena?

  • João da Silva

    asp
    [quote]great insights into nigeria , joao
    written by asp, March 20, 2009
    im fascinated that you were there and know these insights [/quote]

    Thanks ASP. What I said was true. The “International Airport” I mentioned was really OÀ‚´Hare, in case you know where it is located. Though I flew SP-Lagos and back a couple of times (Have to check my passport to confirm).

    [quote]if he really beleives those things, he is a mental pariah ,and, cements the reality of the mantra espousing dogma of followers of marx and stalin[/quote]

    I don’t think Jack is writing under the influence of alcoholic beverages. From what little contact I have had with him, I could make out that he is another Ernest Hemingway. I certainly would not mind discussing with Jack about this issue further and I request that you keep your customary open mind. 😉

  • asp

    great insights into nigeria , joao
    im fascinated that you were there and know these insights

    im really starting to think j danials is drinking too much of his name sake and trying to pull our leg……the things he is saying now are growing beyond ridiculas

    if he really beleives those things, he is a mental pariah ,and, cements the reality of the mantra espousing dogma of followers of marx and stalin

  • João da Silva

    Jack Daniels
    Jack, I really did not have time to respond to your comment addressed to me in the other thread. Besides, there was nothing to comment on the book you mentioned about and also warned that it is [i]not [/i]available for the public to buy. Since I do not live in NYC or D.C., I can not read it and therefore I am least qualified to comment on the contents. However, your comment in this thread on Niger and Nigeria made my jaw drop wide open.

    [quote]I met a doctor who is part of the Nigerian establishment who is related to the Majority leader of thier democratically elected government. He tells me, everyone lives in a gated community. His mother lives in one as do all of the government officials. It’s almost like our Government where everyone is spoiled like little babies. You should go there to see for yourself.[/quote]

    Yes, I have been to Nigeria and have seen many things. Your doctor friend ,though belongs to the “Establishment” must live in the U.S comfortably and no wonder his mother lives happily in the “gated community” where other government officials also live. Your friend can chant the glories of communism sitting far away from his homeland and if any trouble breaks out there, his mother can catch a plane and get an asylum in the good ole U.S. of A.

    [quote]But beware, there are millions who are peasants and rats that don’t belong. They scrape a living from stealing land and oil for themselves. They are all living like animals. They don’t have roads, health, schools, food, etc. etc. etc. They don’t even register as people on the Nigerian or Niger books. Nobody even knows they exist.No one knows their population count, their birth rate, etc.They are a real problem to the communist movement. They have to hire thousands of soldiers to keep them in check. Every year, these people cause so much damage that it ruins it for everyone. Thousands are killed by the Army.[/quote]

    Jack, you are very naive. Believe it or not, in the communist system of government, there are just two classes. The elite that works for the government and the “commoners” who do not belong.Though the communist leaders rose to power with the help of the uneducated landless masses, once they occupy power, innocent and honest serfs start serving the state instead of his Landlord. In the case of Nigeria, have you ever heard of the Biafran Civil War? Though it was supposed to be over a long time ago, the fall out effects are continuous. Do you know that until a few years ago, all the major international Airports in the U.S. warned travelers to Lagos to that they are going there at their own risk?

    If there are [b][i]”millions of rats and peasants who do not belong”[/i][/b] and you seem to openly agree with this view of the “democratically elected” government of Nigeria, I am afraid you have no moral to lecture us all about how good Stalin was. Yes, Stalin sent his “rats and peasants” to the Gulags in Siberia. The Nigerian government is hunting theirs with the help of their Army that ruled the country for years, while your friendÀ‚´s mom is happily living in a “gated community” with probably protected by armed guards 24/7 shifts.

    [quote]They are a real problem to the Glorious Communist state of affairs.[/quote]

    Have Nots are always the real problems to any government whether be it Communist or Fascist.

    [quote]I don’t know if you have any idea of what Cuba was like before the revolution[/quote]

    You would be very surprised to know that I do have some idea.

    BTW, you are yet to answer my questions about Fidel and Chavez dynasties that I posted in the other thread.

  • JACK DANIELS

    senor da Silva:

    In Niger and Nigeria, their communist system works like a charm. Everyone involved in that system is happy. They sell the country oil to the west which makes them all very rich.They own the oil in common, so they say. They have all the amenities of life and they can all command any material thing they desire.They have health care and servants and you name it. I met a doctor who is part of the Nigerian establishment who is related to the Majority leader of thier democratically elected government. He tells me, everyone lives in a gated community. His mother lives in one as do all of the government officials. It’s almost like our Government where everyone is spoiled like little babies. You should go there to see for yourself.

    But beware, there are millions who are peasants and rats that don’t belong. They scrape a living from stealing land and oil for themselves. They are all living like animals. They don’t have roads, health, schools, food, etc. etc. etc. They don’t even register as people on the Nigerian or Niger books. Nobody even knows they exist.No one knows their population count, their birth rate, etc.They are a real problem to the communist movement. They have to hire thousands of soldiers to keep them in check. Every year, these people cause so much damage that it ruins it for everyone. Thousands are killed by the Army. They are a real problem to the Glorious Communist state of affairs.

    The situation in Niger or Nigeria is similar to a lot of the different peoples in South America that you take issue with. I don’t know if you have any idea of what Cuba was like before the revolution. It was mostly like Nigeria or like many parts of Venezuela. God help us if those people get out of hand.

    😥 😥 😥 😥

  • João da Silva

    Jack Daniels
    [quote]ch.c.
    Thanks for that! Does it have a spcial classification?[/quote]

    No, it doesn’t have. Besides, Ch.c is still talking to his daughter in Ho Chi Min City, over the phone. Hope he is not charging the cost of the call to the Swiss government.

    I would be nice if you discuss your theory about Stalin with Ch.c who is a great admirer of all the Bolsheviks starting from Lenin.He is also a big fan of Fidel,Hugh, Lumumba, Chiang, MÀƒ£o Tche Dung and all the important personalities in the 20th century.

    So please feel free to ask him for any clarifications.

  • JACK DANIELS

    ch.c.
    Thanks for that! Does it have a spcial classification?

  • The only infection
    around here is you, Chronicle Herpes Carrier.

    Costa

  • ch.c.

    Jack Daaniels
    Didn’t know Dengue was deadly !

    No. There are 2 forms of Dengue, one non deadly, one deadly !

  • JACK DANIELS

    Didn’t know Dengue was deadly…is this something new to Brazil?
    Is there anyone like the indiens immune to Dengue?

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