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Brazil’s Lula Names the Blue-Eyed Bullies: US, UK and Spain

UK Prime Minister Brown and President Lula	On Saturday at the Progressive Governance summit in Chile, Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva told representatives of the United States, Britain and Spain they had a major responsibility for causing the global economic crisis.

"My dear Gordon Brown, my dear Biden, my dear Zapatero, unfortunately you are more responsible (for the downturn)," he said, addressing them directly.

His statement was in line with previous quotes when he received Prime Minister Brown in Brasí­lia and claimed the financial crisis was caused by "white, blue-eyed people," and not by "blacks, poor or indigenous peoples."

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, US Vice President Joe Biden and Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero were attending the Progressive Governance Summit in the Chilean seaside resort of Vií±a del Mar along with other world leaders.

Brown is engaged on a world tour to seek consensus on financial strategies ahead of next week's Group of 20 (G20) Summit in London. In a conciliatory tone, Biden later admitted that his country knows it has a shared responsibility for the crisis.

"We understand we share a responsibility. Some of you suggest we are primarily responsible, but regardless of your perspective, we understand we share a real responsibility," Biden said.

Center-left leaders gathered in Chile agreed that they would demand from next week's G20 summit the imposition of urgent cross-border regulations regarding the financial sector, climate change and social protection.

"We cannot run the risk of postponing profound structural solutions" said Lula.

Biden agreed. "Forbearance is not an option. Some of our colleagues around the world seem to think that forbearance may be the answer. Well, we will not stand down in our country until we reverse the negative trends in jobs and incomes that exist within our country – and in many of yours, all of yours, quite frankly," he said.

The US and the European Union do not agree on how to handle the global recession.

Washington advocates pumping much more stimulus money into the economy, and is urging a reluctant Europe to do the same. But Europe, with its extensive social safety net, says such high investments are neither desirable nor possible.

In Chile, Brown, Biden, Zapatero and Lula joined Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg and presidents Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner of Argentina and Tabare Vazquez of Uruguay, as well as the host, Chilean President Michelle Bachelet.

On Saturday, Lula demanded immediate measures to prevent a crisis in the markets for energy and food as a result of the severe global economic downturn.

At the same round-table discussion, Brown stressed that markets cannot be expected to regulate themselves and noted that cross-border regulations are required on all global issues.

Biden added: "The most important thing we can do during this whole process – and it's going to begin at the G20 – is to reset the rules of the road; to have common sense oversight that keeps us from getting back into the same spot we're in 10 years from now."

Mrs. Kirchner complained that the current financial system is in a state of chaos. "It is a world without rules," she said.

The group of progressive leaders further said that huge resources are required to help the world's poorest countries deal with the crisis, through institutions like the International Monetary Fund or the World Bank, for example.

Biden's Latin-American Tour

United States Vice President Joe Biden is on a four-day trip to Central and South America for meetings he said represent a "new day" for partnerships in the Americas.

Biden made the remark in an opinion piece that was published by many newspapers in Latin America Friday, coinciding with Biden's arrival in Chile for meetings with Latin American leaders.

The leaders gathered in Chile and Costa Rica to discuss common interests and challenges ahead of a Summit of the Americas in Trinidad and Tobago next month.

Biden said nations are interconnected and have a duty to work together. He called for partnerships to help solve the global economic crisis, fight illegal drug and weapons smuggling, battle climate change and promote democracy.

The Chilean conference, hosted by Chilean President Michelle Bachelet, includes leaders of progressive, or center-left, countries. Leaders from Britain, Norway, Spain, Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay are also attending.

Organizers of the progressive governance meeting hope to craft ideas that can be presented at the G-20 summit in London next month. Biden then travels to Costa Rica for a meeting with Central American leaders.

Below is the full text of the vice president's opinion piece:

A New Day for Partnership in the Americas

Next month, President Obama will travel to Trinidad and Tobago to meet his colleagues from across the Western Hemisphere at the Summit of the Americas. In advance of that historic meeting, I am traveling to Central and South America to consult with Latin American leaders gathered in Chile and Costa Rica about the Summit and the challenges faced by the people of the Americas. These meetings are an important first step toward a new day in relations and building partnerships with and among the countries and people of the Hemisphere.

The President and I understand that only by working together can our countries overcome the challenges we face. Today, we are more than just independent nations who happen to be on the same side of the globe. In today's interconnected world, we are all neighbors who face many common concerns.

The current global economic crisis has touched virtually all of us – every country, every community, every family. Citizens everywhere are searching for answers, looking for hope – and turning to their leaders to provide them. It is our duty as global partners to heed their calls, to together forge a shared solution to a common problem.

Our Administration is taking several steps to make this happen. Our Congress has approved the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which is designed to promote job creation and to set a course for growth for the next generation. The President has proposed a budget designed to set a foundation for the economy of the future, with important investments in health care, education, and energy. And we are working with our partners in the G-20, who meet next week in London, on a coordinated plan to ensure recovery and restart growth, and to reform the international regulatory and supervisory system to ensure that no such crisis occurs again.

Rekindling the U.S. economy and ensuring that international financial institutions serve the interests of the people are particularly important for the Americas. Our economic interconnection means that a robust U.S. economy is good for the hemisphere and can become an engine for bottom up economic growth and equality throughout the region.

The economy isn't the only challenge requiring our cooperation. We also face dual challenges of security ”“ both for our countries and for the individuals who inhabit them. Our countries are plagued by gang violence and the illegal trafficking of weapons and narcotics.

In the United States, we need to do more to reduce demand for illicit drugs and stem the flow of weapons and bulk cash south across our borders. We applaud Mexico's courageous stand against violent drug cartels, as well as Colombia's anti-drug efforts, but we know that they will have the side effect of pushing traffickers into Central America. We will build on the Merida Initiative ”“ started last year under President Bush ”“ to assist Mexico and the Central American nations in a joint effort to confront that threat head-on. The drug trade is a problem we all share and one whose ultimate solution we must devise together.

Consistent with the Inter-American Democratic Charter, we must also focus on building and encouraging strong democracies, where basic fairness, social equality, and a deep respect for human rights and the rule of law are the guiding principles of everything we do. Democracy is about more than elections; it's about strong, transparent governance and a thriving civil society. It is also about addressing as effectively as possible the challenges of poverty, inequality and social exclusion

We recognize that the United States is still striving to meet its constitutional goal of forming a "more perfect union" and that we have in the past, fallen short of our own ideals. But we pledge every day to honor the values that animate our democracy, and to lead by example. This is why, on his third day in office, the President ordered the closure of the detention center at Guantanamo Bay.

Finally, we all face the threat to our planet posed by the changing climate, and, so, we share the need to develop clean energy sources to combat – and reverse – this critical threat. The President and I are deeply committed to leading in the development of an urgent and coordinated response to climate change. Working as partners, we must harness the potential of green energy in a way that protects our planet for future generations, while also catalyzing economic growth for the generations of today.

As we face these threats and as we confront the most serious economic crisis in generations, the countries of the Hemisphere must look forward. And we must work together, as partners, to give our citizens hope that brighter days lie ahead.

Mercopress

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  • Freemon Sandlewould

    I thought it was against the law to make racial comments in Brazil ?????
    Well ? Isn’t it? Will I go to jail if I use the word “preto” ? Milk the white man. That is all this is…… bone headed Brazilian journalists are leftist just like in the USA.

  • Shelly1

    AL Mula bin Lula
    Al Mula bin Lua, the Teflon president is short on three things:

    1) Intelligence
    2) Height
    3) Number of fingers

    8) 😉 😀 😉

  • forrest allen brown

    JD
    Eliot Spitzer
    should keep talking he has nothing to loose now!!!!!!!!!!!

    did you ever here of one of thoes high priceds hookers ever being
    gone after by the IRS ????

    or even being deported

  • JACK DANIELS

    Shelly 1: The world Zionist stole all our money
    Google Hank Greenberg, aipac, AIG and Eliot Spitzer.
    It seems that Israel, Hank Greenberg. AIPAC, and the Neocons were partners in a scheme to defraud the world and that they played the biggest role On Wall Street.
    I don’t know if it is true, but it seems that Israel and Wall Street schemed up these tricks and Eliot Spitzer got several thousand complaints about it when he zeroed in on him. It was Spitzer, against all the forces in the white house and Tel Aviv, who forced Greenberg out. However, the Mosad along with their Washington Prostitution Ring run by Abahmoff set him up. If Eliot Spitzer had gone further and exposed the group, the crash would have taken place earlier.

    Thanks for your references.They explained a lot of the nitty gritty.

  • JACK DANIELS

    Government for the people
    Senor da Silva

    There are lots of shit governments out there and all around the world. The criteria for good government happens to be government dedicated to the welfare of its civilization and its people. Period!

    Plato defined 5 kinds of governments in his Republic and the most evil of all was Democracy. I have had enough experience in government to know that even in a democracy, government can be helpful to civilization and to its people. However, All governments have that capacity to be good to its people. But, for the most part, Democracy is shit. In it’s history, it has proven to be a scam or ponzi scheme of the rich to depredate other nations for its own agrandizement. Democracy tends to enslave its people and ultimately the world. It behaves like a vampire with a never ending appetite for blood and wealth and invisible power. It creates competition between mother and son and father and daughter and destroys all for the bottom line, the dollar.It is the force that will destroy this world.

    It should be remembered that there is a difference between forms of government and economic systems and that all forms of government seem to have a capacity to be communistic although democracy ignores this rule in favor of depredation of its neighbors.All forms of government also can be detrimental to civilization and to its people. However, When nations go communistic, they can also become highly civilized and self-sufficient whereas democracies will never be. Democracies need always to own your land and your raw materials and your wealth whereas other forms of government with communist economic systems can work with what they have. A sensible model was the USSR which really wanted no markets open to the west. That is how it should be. The idea of opening up your market to Wall STreet is insanity.

  • João da Silva

    Jack Daniels
    [quote]And as for government, I am diametrically opposed to the American government. As for other governments, they are not my concern. This government has to go…that is what I will work for. These Republicans and Democrats have to suffer the consequences of their crimes.[/quote]

    What sort of alternative form of Government are you proposing for the U.S., Mr.Daniels? Even though other governments are of no concern to you, are you proposing multi party system of government as we have in Brasil?

    The articles published in the other site remain for a longer time and hence attracts more readers and commentators.

    Both our distinguished American bloggers Forrest and ASP have made some interesting entries in the other site and it would be nice if you read them at the following link:

    [url]https://www.brazzil.com/component/content/article/200-january-2009/10166-how-trade-diversification-saved-brazil-and-neighbors-from-the-worst.html[/url]

  • Shelly1

    Read about America’s biggest scam against the world
    Dirty Dozen

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/26868968/the_dirty_dozen

    The Big Takeover

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/26793903/the_big_takeover/print

    Say NO to the American Bailout~

  • JACK DANIELS

    FAB:
    Ted Stevens, Alaskan Senator, convicted of corruption was released by the government because of Prosecutorial mishandling.

    The Bush Administration fired a lot of Federal Attorney’s because of their honest pursuit of the rule of Law.

    It appears that in Ted Stevens case, Eric Holder made the decision for the same reasons I am complaining above.

    My complaint above is that Organized Crime looted the world while the cities of America were hood-winked with local prosecutions like our state Senator, Fumo. Wall Street or casino capitalism caused a great catastrophe and hurt billions of people by luring states into a Ponzi Scheme even after the Federal Government was alerted a thousand times that it was going on.

    Now that the crooks have disappeared, a new set of crooks in the Obama administration are trying to convince everyone that we should all work together to fix what went wrong. The way to fix what went wrong is to get to the bottom of the crimes committed on Wall Street, AMERICAN ISRAELI [SPY] GEHENNA [AIG], THE BANKS ETC. That is the way to fix it. This administration wants to ignore America’s crimes and pretend that it is at the forefront of a major fix. On top of that, it refuses to address oversight, the banks, the hedge funds, Wall street, and the victims. No, we should all pretend that the world’s welfare collapsed through no fault of anyone’s?

    That is why London is a firestorm of protest against capitalism and the US president and George Bush and the Republican Free Traders who destroyed the lives of millions. It all falls at the doorstep of an evil government who claims that the Government should not be involved in Banks or in Wall Street because government is the problem. Yet, these same frauds had no problem using the law to cover up their crimes while they ignored every law that got in their way and harmed and killed millions of people on this earth doing it. I am not going to ignore any of that nor will I forget what was done. I was hurt just as badly as most countries who were engaged in the stock market. The republicans ruined it all for billions of people while they prosecuted local figures throughout America to divert their attention from the real crimes.

    Obama shouldn’t be allowed to cover it all up…the torture, the ponzi schemes, the crimes against the world, the war, etc.

    And as for government, I am diametrically opposed to the American government. As for other governments, they are not my concern. This government has to go…that is what I will work for. These Republicans and Democrats have to suffer the consequences of their crimes. Nothing short of that will make me happy. I am not here as an apologist for America.She has no shame. Just like my local leader was prosecuted, I want these criminals from Bush on down to these congressman prosecuted for thier crimes.

    It makes me sick to see leaders of other nations like Lula even talking with these jerks either in Chile or in England. They don’t care about people. You can see that in Gaza. They don’t care about us. But most of all, they don’t care about the Rule of Law. Not the PResident, not the Senators, not the Congressmen…not anyone in the American Government. We even have guys here fighting an undeclared war against the people of columbia in violation of the Rule of Law.

    The only way to make it right [for me] is to voice my opposition. That is the first step. My voice needs to be sung throughout the world. That is my way of making this government honest.

  • forrest allen brown

    need to end the free ride
    stop beating up each other and work on government , DONT RELECT ANY ONE .
    put crooked cops and politicans in jail for ever ,or until they spill the beans on the who ,when ,where ,how
    they got the money or drugs .

    the rich countries can send tons of money to poor countries BUT unless there is some sort of oversight
    and recepts on how and where the money is spent , the governments get richer and the poor are to blame
    look at the oil for food program irqu had the UN leader son took the money and sent wepons not a thing was done to him or his dad.
    look at the dukes in Haiti robed them for years .
    why no oversight .

    JD you talk but have you been in the mud here as of late !!! many things are not black and white as they should be
    it is like saying it is easer to eat in front of a hungry fat kid than a skinny one

    simple enforce the laws on every one the same way
    no matter whom they are , but you will have to kill the good old boy sindrome

  • João da Silva

    [quote]What do they really want….in fact ? [/quote]

    NÀƒ£o sei. Vc sabe?

  • ch.c.

    Tit and Tat !
    – Funny that Robbing Hook, the most knowlegable and smartest President on Earth, is treating Spain as….BLUE EYES !

    – “Spend a couple of million like you did on a local leader to find out who robbed the world? “
    Why should/will they ? To end up incriminating…THEMSELVES ?

    – ” beleive all the rich countries are responsable for the poor countries “
    Funny statement knowing that Noooo President and/or ministers in rich countries are as wealthy as Presidents and/or ministers in poor countries ! Where did end most of the World Bank, IMF money ? In development projects or into the pockets of those governing these poors countries ? Every country is responsible of its own destiny, poverty or wealth, in my humble view !
    Why do so many Africans educated people, such as doctors, nurses and teachers, who got a better higher education in developed countries, HAVE NOOOOO INTEREST….to go back in their original country ?
    Simple : DUE TO THE LOCAL ENVIRONEMENT !
    And who is responsible of the local environment ? The local governments or foreign governments ?

    More simple there is not !

    Poors countries say the developed countries are responsible when food prices are high and these same countries say the developed countries are also responsible when food prices are…LOW !
    What do they really want….in fact ? MORE DONATIONS WHEN FOOD PRICES ARE LOW BECAUSE PRICES ARE LOW AND STILL MORE DONATIONS WHEN FOOD PRICES ARE HIGH…BECAUSE PRICES ARE HIGH ! BUT MORE DONATION IN ANYWAY IS THE NORM !
    Nothing will ever change until they decide to change in depth and evolve and take care of their own destiny !

  • Simpleton

    Too close
    a resembla nce. It thinks it gets tired. Was it some ill disease that infected the Brandywine or was it the influence of the ring of power only? Gollum and asp’s webbed feet may hold the clue – which river mouth are you nearest to dear friend? If you tell, I can try to do a bit of digging around and advise better on just how much farcing has influenced the new / old “conscientious objector’s” (usarios) in that locale. I trust you are not speaking of just anything (particular) with your allegations of the invasion.

  • João da Silva

    asp
    [quote]and, you arnt down here to see the direct results of civil disorder that , while not the real cause , or the only ones involved, farc has a definite roll in perpetuating this urban violent decay directly in the big cities of brazil[/quote]

    A very interesting point you have brought up, my dear fellow. I don’t think that Mr.Daniels has visited this continent or our country for ages. Probably the last time he did was before March 31,1964. 😉 Tomorrow is the 45th anniversary of our glorious revolution and hope you commemorate it by taking a deep dive into the warm waters of the South Atlantic and after that have a shot or two of Mr.DanielsÀ‚´s namesake. 😀

  • asp

    oh yeah , right danials, farc is just a bunch of freedom fighters like noam chumpsky would say
    sorry to burst your little bubble boo boo danials, but, no matter who elses hands are in the till for drug profits and routes in south america, farc is very high on the list. and they are causing disrutpion in the area. and being supported by ,l for sure, correa of equador and chavez of venezuela…these are facts, not fiction , which is mostly what you propose.

    and, you arnt down here to see the direct results of civil disorder that , while not the real cause , or the only ones involved, farc has a definite roll in perpetuating this urban violent decay directly in the big cities of brazil

    it gets tired to hear fantacy versus reality…

  • João da Silva

    Forrest
    Hey Forrest,

    You haven’t yet expressed your words of wisdom about the comments made by Mr.Jack Daniels. He has some interesting points to make, though.

  • JACK DANIELS

    The Drug War or is it The Drug Ponzi Scheme. The US is the real Drug Lord
    In the United States, we need to do more to reduce demand for illicit drugs and stem the flow of weapons and bulk cash south across our borders. We applaud Mexico’s courageous stand against violent drug cartels, as well as Colombia’s anti-drug efforts, but we know that they will have the side effect of pushing traffickers into Central America. We will build on the Merida Initiative À¢€“ started last year under President Bush À¢€“ to assist Mexico and the Central American nations in a joint effort to confront that threat head-on. The drug trade is a problem we all share and one whose ultimate solution we must devise together.

    Right after the US invaded Afghanistan, proxies of the CIA went around to all of the farms in Afghanistan and bought their yet ungrown crops for $XXX of money. For some reason or other, the Burmese government put a stop to growing the stuff which had been documented to be an American product.

    The propoganda here says that Chavez and the Shining Path of Peru are the ones bringing in the stuff but when you look closer, it turns out that American proxies like Columbia, Mexico, and Afghanistan are the real shipping point of this stuff.In several books, the trade has been linked to the CIA. Several Federal Court Cases have disclosed US involvement.

  • forrest allen brown

    Biden was also hit with this
    the poorer nations told the US to stop deportations as it was a burden on there countries
    and a loss of millions of Dallors in money sent back home .

    did any one chatch lula babble on the Chicken Noodle Network
    what a pile fatima almost kicked the TV off the wall
    when he played his i was a lathe oprator and a union president
    i beleive all the rich countries are responsable for the poor countries

  • JACK DANIELS

    Is cuba, Guatemale, Venezuela, Ecuador, Brazil etc. our global partners? Then lets work together
    Biden:
    The President and I understand that only by working together can our countries overcome the challenges we face. Today, we are more than just independent nations who happen to be on the same side of the globe. In today’s interconnected world, we are all neighbors who face many common concerns.

    Citizens everywhere are searching for answers, looking for hope – and turning to their leaders to provide them. It is our duty as global partners to heed their calls, to together forge a shared solution to a common problem.

    In 1945 and 1946, we created the UN with the above ideal in mind? All of our problems, Roosevelt and Stalin said, could be solved in the United Nations. Jees…it sounds so good. Global Partners; share solutions to common problems? Wow! The same baleful cry of America in a crisis? Working together?

    Last time I remembered, the US would talk to half the country, wouldn’t talk to terrorist, would deal with Noriega or other Southerners like Chavez…no, they were public enemies. Is Cuba interconnected? What is this nonsense Biden is talking about?

  • JACK DANIELS

    Wheres the money that was stolen?
    The group of progressive leaders further said that huge resources are required to help the world’s poorest countries deal with the crisis, through institutions like the International Monetary Fund or the World Bank, for example.

    Biden said nations are interconnected and have a duty to work together. He called for partnerships to help solve the global economic crisis

    I’ve got an idea? Go after the crooks and the Neocons who looted the world. Spend a couple of million like you did on a local leader to find out who robbed the world?

  • JACK DANIELS

    What to do?
    Biden added: “The most important thing we can do during this whole process – and it’s going to begin at the G20 – is to reset the rules of the road; to have common sense oversight that keeps us from getting back into the same spot we’re in 10 years from now.”
    Mrs. Kirchner complained that the current financial system is in a state of chaos. “It is a world without rules,” she said.

    To begin with, the US GOVERNMENT is fickle. Today in its hour of crisis, it want’s your help. Tomorrow, when the Free Traders and capitalists are running roughshod over the world, they will tell you to go to hell. The republicans are pure laisse-faire capitalists and want no rules whatsoever. their standard bearer, Ronald Reagan, thinks that everything the government does is evil and that government should have no role to play in Industry nor on Wall Street. Most of all, this same government thinks that labor doesn’t deserve a share in the means of production. They have relegated the labor market to the slave market. But, now that the free traders and The Investment Bankers have stolen all of our money[the neocons], everyone wants to play nice and reset the rules of the road. This is equivalent to closing the barn door after the horses or the cattle ahve fled.What guarantee does anyone have that the rules will just be overturned after the republicans have stolen the elections like General Pinochet?

    Before anyone resets the rules or pays out a dime, we should all disclose where the money or the wealth went? In other words, we should try to spend a couple of million dollars tracking down the money? It turns out that after every crisis, after every war, after every international issue, the US becomes wealthier. Why is that? Why is it now they are begging for your help? I doubt that it is help they want.

  • JACK DANIELS

    The Rules of the Road
    A. The US and the European Union do not agree on how to handle the global recession. [that is why we come to Brazil!]

    B. Biden added: “The most important thing we can do during this whole process – and it’s going to begin at the G20 – is to reset the rules of the road; to have common sense oversight that keeps us from getting back into the same spot we’re in 10 years from now.” [Here in Philadelphia, a very well liked politician was jailed after the FBI and the Justice Department convicted him of corruption on a 1000 counts. Yes, the guy did a lot of things that worked for him and could be calculated as corruption but every damn politician that I know has engaged in similar behavior. Well, the point is that the US Federal Government spent thousands of hours of video surveillance on the State Senator, Fumo, thousands of hours of audio surveillance on him and thousands of man hours of FBI time to bring the case against him. They left no stone unturned. They even knew the color of his girlfriends panties and had all the DNA evidence on her sheets and on his. And then, after he was convicted, there was a picture of some brazillian guy who had been robbing local banks. The Photo of him was captured at the bank tellerÀ¢€™s desk. Beneath his picture was the caption À¢€œIf you see him, call the FBI at this phone number.À¢€Â My point here is that in all these cases, and in all of this time, the US government failed to put anyone on notice that if we saw Madoff or Hank Greenburg or the Israeli government robbing trillions, we should notify them. It seems they never breathed a word about the wholesale theft of trillions while they were spending several hundred million trying to save the taxpayer $1 million. These are the assholes that want to reset the rules of the road.]

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