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American Pilots Get Back Their Wings in Brazil and Fly to the US

American pilots Joe Lepore and Jan Paladino have left Brazil about 4:30 pm, today, aboard a Legacy private jet from Guarulhos International Airport in São Paulo. The departure went unnoticed by reporters trying to cover the event.

The news was given later by the US consulate in São Paulo. All reporters were able to notice is that there was no flight scheduled to leave for the United States at the time they were told to have left. The Legacy they flew in doesn’t belong to air-taxi company ExcelAire, their American employer.

The Americans got their passports back, this afternoon, more than two months after they were confiscated by the Brazilian authorities following the collision of the Legacy executive jet they were piloting with the Boeing 737 over the Amazon jungle on September 29.

Before they were handed their documents, today, by the federal police they had to go through a six-hour interrogatory at São Paulo’s Federal Police headquarters.

As expected they were indicted under the Brazilian Penal Code’s article 261 charged with having exposed the Brazilian air traffic security to danger.

Barring any last-minute surprise both should fly back home to the United States before the end of the day.

According to one of the pilots lawyer the crime they are being charged with carries a 2 to 5 year jail sentence. The Federal Police decided that theirs was an involuntary crime meaning that they didn’t have the intention to cause the accident or the deaths of the 154 people aboard the Boeing 737.

Lepore and Paladino left the Marriott hotel, in Copacabana beach, in which they were confined since October 3 very early in the morning in order to fly to São Paulo.

They arrived at the São Paulo Federal Police at 7:45 am and half an hour later had already started their testimony. Their lawyers say the pilots didn’t say a word during the six-hour procedure.

According to the Federal Police, however, the two Americans answered the questions posed by Federal Police chiefs Ramon da Silva, from Mato Grosso state and Rubem Maleiner from Brazilian capital Brasí­lia.

The two American pilots came accompanied by four workers from the American consulate and by their two lawyers, former Justice Minister, José Carlos Dias, and Theo Dias.

While Paladino came dressed up, with a dark suit, his colleague Lepore was wearing a blue shirt with short sleeves.

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  • Rick

    Yes, keep letting it all out. This is good therapy. How old were you when you noticed this hatred welling up inside, and how did it make you feel?

  • Costinha

    To all the fake american bilinguals…
    You idiots cannot even master English much less another language (i.e. Pork&Cheese). That’s why I am forced to insult these bottom dwellers in English rather then Portuguese.

    Hell, most of them cannot even point on a map where the state of Texas is! Is there no limit to american stupidity?

    Good day

  • Rick

    Did you mean to say, Que medo? Or, Que merda? ItÀ‚´s unclear.

  • inho

    Oh lots of power you have over me! Que meda!

    Eu odeeeeio Americano! common phrase among Brazilians, not an exception.

  • Rick

    You digust Americans? Is that really what you wanted to say?

  • inho

    You can take whatever you want in your home land!

    I disgust Americans with their inferiority complexes and jealousy especially Americans ex pats. Simple as that ! : 0

    Go back your caves or stay in your Brazilian American ghethos !

  • Rick

    I take it youÀ‚´re upset because they went home? Toma ti.

  • rick/robie

    Empty retoric blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    “Relax. What can screaming cunt and stupid americans or brazilians accomplish?? Are you adding to the hatred of the world?? It sounds to me that many of you are angry. None of that vile language will change the facts that the Brazilian and American are working very hard to uncover”

    “. It is an important issue that many people are working to solve. No one wants to be responsible for an error which may have lead to the death of 154 people. Let’s remove stereotypes and ethnic hatred from the emotionally charge situation. “

    “I know how I want the ruling to be, but my OPINION does not matter to the courts. “

    I believe this may be your site. You use subtle language as your power tool. What American and what Brazilian are working very hard, and what are they working to uncover? Why this specific thread is so poorly designed so anyone can read the absurd that have been wrote here? These pacifying fellows appear out of the blue, they normally appear friendly and reasonable when they feel they are losing their moral high ground. And just to add something positive and defend the Yankees who post here. Brazilians cannot defend themselves on this site simply because there are almost NO Brazilian posting or reading it. Maybe the fake brazilians will appear 😀 As I say I am in my country, I did not go to your site about America to denigrate your culture or your people or your country or person.

    At a point you are back to the topic. IÀ¢€™d love to know who these À¢€œpeopleÀ¢€Â working to solve this important issue are and how are they À¢€œsolvingÀ¢€Â it. And your opinion do not count anymore, after all this time and threads and posts? Yeah, right. The ONLY international rule these pilots had to comply with is the one that demands them to follow the flight plan. Hold your horses. No one wants to be responsible for the death of 154 people? How about the American pilots involved in the accident who refuse any responsibility in their participation in the accident? The Americans expats here take the accountability burden to themselves as it seems, donÀ¢€™t ask me why, ask a shrink. Your lame dignity sirs, is busted.

  • A concerned friend

    Relax. What can screaming cunt and stupid americans or brazilians accomplish?? Are you adding to the hatred of the world?? It sounds to me that many of you are angry. None of that vile language will change the facts that the Brazilian and American are working very hard to uncover. It is an important issue that many people are working to solve. No one wants to be responsible for an error which may have lead to the death of 154 people. Let’s remove stereotypes and ethnic hatred from the emotionally charge situation. Unless YOU have all the facts and all the international laws memorized, let’s leave the judgement to the courts. I know how I want the ruling to be, but my OPINION does not matter to the courts. How do you people wish to continue from here?

  • an american

    to the moral high ground team Mad max, Indeed and Allen Brown “***ALSO ON THE NEWS TODAY***
    Today, in federal court, the ACLU and Human Rights First argued its case that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld should be held accountable for the torture and abuse of detainees in U.S. military custody.
    Todayˢ۪s hearing marked the first time a federal court has considered whether top U.S. officials can be held legally accountable for the torture scandal in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Background:
    The ACLU and Human Rights First filed the lawsuit in March 2005 on behalf of nine innocent civilians who were detained by the United States military in Iraq and Afghanistan. While in U.S. custody, the men were subjected to abuse, torture and other cruel and degrading treatment, including severe and repeated beatings, cutting with knives, sexual humiliation and assault, mock executions, death threats, and restraint in contorted and excruciating positions. All of the men were released without charge.
    À¢€œOur clientsÀ¢€™ case is about ensuring that thereÀ¢€™s meaningful accountability, to create an effective deterrent against future violations and to ensure the courtsÀ¢€™ ongoing role in enforcing the law against torture,À¢€Â said Deborah Pearlstein, director of Human Rights FirstÀ¢€™s Law and Security program. À¢€œThe Supreme Court has made it clear that wartime does not create a law-free zone.À¢€Â
    Rumsfeld moved to dismiss the lawsuit, hence, the hearing today.
    Todayˢ۪s hearing addressed the defendantsˢ۪ claim that they cannot be held legally liable for the torture of civilians in U.S. custody. The ACLU and Human Rights First argued that the Constitution and international law clearly prohibit torture and require commanders to act when they know or should have known of abuses. In addition to the orders they gave directly, Secretary Rumsfeld and the other defendants were repeatedly notified of abuse and torture at detention facilities in Iraq and Afghanistan by military reports, the International Red Cross and other reports and complaints by human rights organizations.
    The groups further charge in the lawsuit that Secretary Rumsfeld personally approved brutal and illegal interrogation techniques in December 2002. Those techniques included the use of À¢€œstress positions,À¢€Â the removal of clothing, the use of dogs, and isolation and sensory deprivation.
    Procedurally,
    The ACLU also brought three related lawsuits against Lt. General Ricardo Sanchez, former Brigadier General Janis Karpinski and Colonel Thomas Pappas. The four cases were consolidated and transferred to Chief Judge Thomas F. Hogan of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. All of the defendants have moved to dismiss the suits in their entirety.
    The lawsuit is seeking compensatory damages for the plaintiffs and a court order declaring that the actions of Secretary Rumsfeld and the other officers violated the U.S. Constitution, federal statutes and international law.

  • an american

    to the moral high ground team Mad max, Indeed and Allen Brown “***ALSO ON THE NEWS TODAY***
    Foley might not even be prosecuted
    This is getting worse and worse. Yesterday, the Republican-led House Ethics Committee ruled that the Republican leadership did nothing wrong in how it responded to the Foley incident. Now, according to ABC News, Mark Foley himself might not even be prosecuted:
    According to several sources, prosecutors have had difficulty establishing probable cause of a crime. The barrier in getting past the probable cause threshold was the statute on transmitting obscene materials to minors. Under federal law, the age of minors receiving obscene materials is 16.
    Republican-led Ethics Committee gives partisan ruling on Foley
    Gee, what a surprise! The Republican-led House Ethics Committee finished its investigation into the Mark Foley sex scandal, and concluded that nothing was unethical about the way the Republican leadership handled it:
    The panel voted to endorse an 89-page report recommending À¢€œno further investigative or disciplinary proceedings,À¢€Â against anyone in connection with the scandal, which is believed by many to have contributed to heavy Republican losses in the November election.
    It comes despite the fact that this same committee even admitted that a Republican House clerk had been addressing the Foley issue since 1995:
    The committee concluded that House Clerk Jeff Trandahl “repeatedly tried to address Rep. Foley’s conduct,” beginning with his 1995 election to the House, and “directly confronted Foley on the matter approximately ten times at various places for various reasons.”
    Dennis Hastert, the leader of the Republican majority, was found innocent by a Republican majority in the committee. How would we have expected any other ruling but this? This is where power can be such an asset.

  • indeed

    FY Costinha al those words are you too

  • Costinha

    Indeed…
    That man is cruelly depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.

    Now then, can you insult me in Pork&Cheese, I bet not!

    Next time, I’ll try being nicer if you’ll try being smarter, chucklehead.

  • Costinha

    Mad Max – Why are so mad?
    You not only sound like an imbecile, but I’ll hazard a guess you look exactly like one, too. I think I’ll promote you from Village to Town Idiot.

    Meanwhile, don’t breed motherfucker.

    Yours truly,

    Costinha

  • indeed

    I really despise your real people

  • indeed

    RE: think of the dead not the crime or money to gain. Too cynical for my taste
    poor victimized Americans! You are the only ones who complain about taxi fairs in SÀƒ£o Paulo and feel victimized!

    Money is all you care green gringo! Also your lame fame. Dont want the dark side so explored do you! 😀

    Oh yeah come to Brazil and buy you a woman cause they are cheaper! And pay less than US$50 buks for a whore service! What you came here for? White or a black service? I am sure it is alot cheaper then in your country where you refuse to spend so much money!

    You people cannot be happy here nor anywhere!

  • Allen Brown

    think of the dead not the crime or money to gain
    It is another case of selective law enforcement ,

    GRINGO ES with money are treated different than other gringos . the pilots hotel
    Me 17 hours in a holding cell in airport butt naked accused of a counterfeit visa.

    The pilots had to stay to prove themselves right , it is so easy to leave Brazil do you think they could not have left if they wanted to !!!!!

    No they stayed to prove themselves , not run and hide like the cowards in the ATC or pointing the finger at any one else to place the blame .

    I i do believe they will return when and if they ever go to court on the new charges ,

    what i want too see is some Brazilian suing the gov of Brazil or going after the builders of the plane in Brazil ,
    why do the all want to sue in the USA . ( MONEY )
    easier to get it there than in Brazil even if you Winn in Brazil you never get paid .

    so it all boils down to money for the dead not love ones

  • Mad Max

    Law? What f***ing law? It is the obvious absence of ANY form of due process that has the Americans up in arms. The pilots went to a six hour “interrogation” or “community meeting” with the conclusions already decided for them. Damn! That is convenient. Makes the paperwork much easier to process.

    Hey! Make sure you photograph my right side, the profile is much more attractive. Let me wag my finger at the CIA operatives one more time. Are you ready to take the photo?

    Another stunning example, today – running on the wires:

    [quote]”We can’t affirm their actions are solely responsible for the crash,” Federal Police Investigator Ramon Almeida da Silva said in a press conference. “But the evidence shows they acted with negligence.”
    [/quote]

    WHAT FREAKING EVIDENCE???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    I am not asking for much here, just one thin small FACT to back up the ludicrous conclusions and behavior of the MORONS running the show.

    Hurl another totally unsubstantiated accusation. Then perhaps, months from now, when you admit there is nothing – and there never was anything – people will have forgotten and moved on.

    Brazilian “officials” must be excellent fishermen. They hurl chum in the water with replete abandon.

    Why don’t you guys go ask Chavez what to do next. It is obvious you are going to be his personal little b*tch for a few more years. Oh Uncle Hugo, what can we do for you? Lick your boots? **whimper** Yes, we taught those evil imperialists a lesson. Can I get a $5BBL discount now?

    Brazil – the world’s next superpower. Always has been, always will be.

    ciao

  • indeed

    Just tell them what you showed their government
    Two different flight plans and all is fine. Then one aircraft crew screw it because they dont know the international aviation rules. All this nonsense you say, pilot, is the truth over this accident? These pilots and airplane company do not take ANY responsiblity regarding this accident, they just rely that air controllers make all the job. And the american patriotics feel their dignity hurt. It is visible that no thing will teach many Americans they are all like Bush at the bottom. Maybe I am being too optimistic over Americans, as always I have been.

  • farofa

    Arrogant Americans from HELL!
    I am sick of these American morons who think that the law does not apply to them, and that they have the right to behave however they like when visiting another country. Nobody likes you, even Canadians despise you!

    These crawling worms just keep digging deeper and deeper into their own excrement. Yes, Americans are ugly and I don’t like you.

  • indeed

    “Well they went through 6 more hours of Brazilian double talk FOR WHAT

    they were with a lawyer and to persons from the U.S. embassy , on a civil matter ?

    they were charged with a civil crime , so no extradition back to Brazil so if they don’t return on there own the Brazilians will say Americans can come to there country and commit crimes and leave as they are above the law ,

    BUT they don’t talk about the 3.8 million illegal Brazilians in the US .
    the 1243 Brazilians in us prisons for crimes and the other 7500 that left the country so they would not go to jail .this includes murder , rape ,

    C ant
    U nderstand
    N ormal
    T hinking”

    What the pilot’s charge has to the with the illegal immigrants from Brazil? what is wrong with you? I don’t want to know really.

  • Keith Peshak

    Just tell them what you showed their government
    One way to move airplanes is to maximally concentrate them together in the sky, make all the airplanes fly through tubes in the sky. You know where they are that way, but they might run into or over eachother. You have a radar on the ground every 30 miles to sense them and tell them over a radio, but that is too expensive, breaks down a lot. If the transponder doesnˢ۪t work, that system is blind. The FAA TSO for transponders is wrong. That is like driving on the freeway, with all the windows painted over, taking directions over a two way radio, from some guy who canˢ۪t really see the hundreds of airplanes that he is responsible for directing. So the guy meters them, only one per freeway at a time. That is Brazil today.

    The TailLight technology way to move airplanes is to maximally separate them apart, let them fly direct from where they are to where they want to go. They stay further apart that way, but they need a way to see eachother. A $200 USD À¢€œchipÀ¢€Â added to the transponder tells all other airplanes position and velocity within 22,620 cubic miles around it. That chip also fixes the problems with radar (eliminates track jump, drop out, phantoms, … but that is just for radar displays À¢€œclean upÀ¢€Â). http://www.gtwn.net/~keith.peshak/Product2.htm You donÀ¢€™t need a radar on the ground every 30 miles, and the transponder works so radar controllers are not blind. A transponder receiver, already inside the TCAS, that collision avoidance system which didnÀ¢€™t work on the Legacy 600 or on the Boeing 737-800, hears position reports from the TailLight modified transponder on the other airplane. Another $300 USD À¢€œchipÀ¢€Â is added to that problematic TCAS equipment to allow display in the À¢€œglass cockpitÀ¢€Â of all the airplanes around you. http://www.gtwn.net/~keith.peshak/Product9.htm That is like driving on the freeway, with all the windows nice and clean, making all the other cars blink really brightly red. With his own cheap receiver, even some guy on the ground can really see all the hundreds of airplanes that he is responsible for controlling, also their transponders. No need to meter them, only one per tube at a time. That could be Brazil today, at a cost of $500 per airplane for the integrated circuits.

    Oh, I forgot, you can also get terrain avoidance, obstruction avoidance, runway incursion avoidance, taxiways… ThatÀ¢€™s just software for the À¢€œglass cockpitÀ¢€Â display called a data base. You can get that for PDA or laptop display devices now from other vendors.

    http://www.collisionavoidance.org Notice, we are a .org not a .com so you need to get an avionics maker in your country to do the modification to existing transponder and TCAS equipments and deal with your government for recertification. Total cost to the government is zero, aside from the recertification effort. If we were a .com with PMA and STC, then the cost would need to be more like $1M USD per airplane instead of $500 USD per airplane.

  • Costinha

    ” indeed”… Brief History of an Infectuous Disease!
    You are beyond moronic and into a whole new realm of idiocy. Doe’s your head hurt when you are that stupid?

    Learn from your parents mistake and use birth control… hehehe

  • Costinha

    Put those CIA scums (the gringo pilots)
    where they belong…. IN JAIL.

  • Allen Brown

    still not over
    Well they went through 6 more hours of Brazilian double talk FOR WHAT

    they were with a lawyer and to persons from the U.S. embassy , on a civil matter ?

    they were charged with a civil crime , so no extradition back to Brazil so if they don’t return on there own the Brazilians will say Americans can come to there country and commit crimes and leave as they are above the law ,

    BUT they don’t talk about the 3.8 million illegal Brazilians in the US .
    the 1243 BraziliansÀ‚ À‚ in us prisons for crimes and the other 7500 that left the country so they would not go to jail .this includes murder , rape ,

    C ant
    U nderstand
    N ormal
    T hinking

  • indeed

    to keith peshak
    When will you learn that those pilots did not follow the flight plan in a situation like that as international and not **American** rules require?? Being an American, this is hard for me to say. The odds are 50%.Am i being optmistic Costinha?

  • indeed

    An ex pat in Brazil that Brazil does not want!
    “You, sir, are a very ignorant man. I hope you enjoy live among the favelas. Which are you, a prostitute or a drug dealer?

    Aren’t those the two most common jobs in your corrupt, immoral country? “

    This type of American is what I refer to be the more useless, full of ignorance and harmful foreign in whole Brazil! It is a disappointment having to know that these type of beings live here in my home country. You people are to predictable, ignorant, dead souls. Your miserable lives in America brought you here as anyone can see. Amazing how any other foreign nationality isn’t any likely yours here in Brazil! And you bring all your bag of shit to this country! I hope never ever have to meet you sir. And if I ever do I would avoid it as o diabo foge da cruz! Keep this bad of s****y culture in America, where it belongs. Merci.

  • Michael

    That’s hilarious…
    …an American writing about a ‘corrupt, immoral country’…do you ever watch the news in your own country you MORON???

  • Keith Peshak

    What we learn
    As a commercial pilot, I study accidents so I can learn from the mistakes of others. So, what have I learned from the collision between the Legacy 600 and 737-800 in the Amazon? First of all, constantly ask the controller what my altitude is, because the new $B+ USD Brazil ground radar is likely to show me at a different altitude than I was assigned (where I am), so I need to get to what the radar says, because that is where the controller thinks I am. In other words, donˢ۪t follow orders (issued clearance). Second, I need to fly my filed flight plan, even if the controller is giving me orders to change direction or altitude because I am about to hit another airplane. In other words, donˢ۪t follow orders (issued clearance). Third, if I ever see a police officer coming toward me, get out of the country at the first available opportunity!

    You folks know that the FAA TSO for transponders is wrong (if you build them that way then this is what you get), right? You know that this stuff is published around the world in peer reviewed journals, right? OK, you donÀ¢€™t like me, I sound too much like eye witness Joe Sharkey, then how about an American ATC controller that had the same experience, published À¢€œReal Targets, Unreal Displays (radar pictures)À¢€Â? http://home.columbus.rr.com/lusch/rtudslide00.html

    And, fourth, your radar stuff donˢ۪t work! Which leads to fifth, itˢ۪s not a work slow down, itˢ۪s not a labor dispute, itˢ۪s not a strike, itˢ۪s too few controllers, and they are following the rules to the letter in order to try to get you there alive, because, your radar stuff demonstrably donˢ۪t work. Go thank a controller, heˢ۪s on your side (until a police officer comes after him).

  • Costinha

    Costinha is Very Smart
    What does Costinha mean in Portuguese? Oh, I know, it means either CUNT or COWARD.

    You, sir, are a very ignorant man. I hope you enjoy live among the favelas. Which are you, a prostitute or a drug dealer?

    Aren’t those the two most common jobs in your corrupt, immoral country?

  • Costinha

    by Tom, the Jerk!
    “because I know no evidence exists” The man knows more than us all! But how, does he have access to the judicial process in Brasil??? Of course not, just speculation as usual followed by the John Wayne syndrome.

    Stupid Americans.

  • Tom

    Why does this reporter give a damn what they were wearing. As usual, wonderful reporting by the consistently uninformed. By the way, exactly what evidence did these ‘federales’ bring forth in their indictment? Id really like to know, because I know no evidence exists. They might as well have indicted the Gol crew as well, since both crews were following ATc instructions to the letter. Stupid Brazilians….

  • Rick

    The media thought they would be travelling on a scheduled airline? And they work for an executive jet flying service?

  • Mad Max

    Anyone else indicted? No? Of course not. The two pilots are guilty of surviving and causing an embarassment since they could not be used for a convenient excuse.

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