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Brazil and Neighbors Warned by US to Think Twice Before Embracing Ahmadinejad

Lula with Ahmadinejad in Brazil Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, urged Latin American countries on Friday to "think twice" about establishing links with Iran, which she said is the world's leading promoter and exporter of terrorism.

Clinton also expressed concern about democratically-elected leaders in Latin America who later move to undermine democratic institutions.

Clinton's remarks at a State Department public policy forum on Latin America were some of the strongest by an Obama administration official to date about increasing Iranian activity in the region.

Iran has been establishing close political, trade and other relationships with several Latin American governments, underlined by recent visits by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Brazil, Venezuela and Bolivia.

In a question and answer session with participants in the event, Clinton said the United States has "no problem" with non-Western Hemisphere countries like China having legitimate business and investment activities in Latin America.

But she said US officials are concerned about what she said was Iran's "interest in promoting itself" in countries like Venezuela and Bolivia and said allowing Iranian influence to take root is, in her words, "a very bad idea for the countries involved."

"We hope that there will be recognition that this is the major supporter, promoter and exporter of terrorism in the world today," she said. "The Revolutionary Guard of Iran is increasing its control over the country because of the elections, which were a stark example of the abuse of human rights in action, is deeply involved in the economy as well as the security issues of Iran.

And I think that if people want to flirt with Iran, they should take a look at what the consequences might well be for them. And we hope that they will think twice and we're going to support them if they do."

There have been similar expressions of concern from Pentagon officials including Defense Secretary Robert Gates who in Senate testimony earlier this year said he was concerned about Iranian "meddling" in Latin America.

US officials have accused Iran of supporting activities in Latin America of the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, and Tehran is accused of involvement in the nineties bomb attacks on a Jewish center and the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires.

In the policy forum, Clinton also reiterated US "worry" about countries in Latin America where leaders who, after being democratically elected, move to undermine constitutional rule, citing in particular Venezuela and Nicaragua.

"We need to make it absolutely an article of faith that any leader elected must not just further his own position, and his power base, but respect the right of the people who elected him and build up the democracy so that democratic development and economic development can go hand in hand," she said.

Clinton said she hoped to see, "in the not-too-distant future," a democratic Cuba, which she said would be extraordinarily positive for the Hemisphere.

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  • Leo Bonneville

    FUCK THE AMERICAN VIEW ON HOW LATIN AMERICA SHOULD DEAL WITH NON-WESTERN COUNTRIES…
    I’ve had it with the US trying to bully South America, Its clear she was speaking directly to Brazil about Iran, Its interesting to me that Obama and his coonies are so upset about how we should be dealing with Iran, and yet I’m waiting to hear what his foreign policy on South America is? Specially Brazil…

    These fucking degenerates want to keep imposing their will on South America but has yet to show any sign of support to Brazilians or South America at that, excluding Colombia..

    If the US wanted South America to be a more loyal partner perhaps opening up their trade policies for South America might help, quit always try to fuck everyone, the US is always walking around as if they are better than everyone else, including South Americans, and others should be trying to lick their balls, lets cut the crap and find a common ground to walk on, everyone is sick and tired of American Tyranny.

    Those days of dictating how other countries should conduct their businesses are long gone, as the US has lost many supporters over the last decade, they know that Brazil have the same allies as they do, war with Brazil is just a silly fairy tale.

    LBS

  • João da Silva

    Ricardo Amaral
    [quote]Joao,

    You might enjoy reading these two threads: [/quote]

    Hi Ricardo,

    Thanks for the links and indeed I did enjoy reading them. I did not hear about ObamaÀ‚´s statement on Israel, until I read them.

    Now that this thread is vanishing, hope to catch up with you all in another interesting thread.

    BTW, Ricardo, I have made a comment under the thread:

    [url]http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/11555/1/[/url]

    What are your views?

  • Ricardo C. Amaral

    Reply to Joao da Silva
    Joao,

    You might enjoy reading these two threads:

    December 16, 2009

    SouthAmerica: The party is over, and it is the beginning of a new era.

    [url]http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179985&perpage=6&pagenumber=11[/url]

    [url]http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179985&perpage=6&pagenumber=12[/url]

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  • Ricardo C. Amaral

    Reply to ASP
    Afghanistan is a religious war!

    The US coalition forces are fighting in Afghanistan the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and these two groups are made of religious fanatics…

    .

  • asp

    the afghan war?
    first , as i said before its not a religious war….

    second, its up to the afghan people…if they want the taliban to rule them, that is what will happen

  • asp

    for gods sake, this is the real american culture…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd4cA9kbnRc

    this is as high class american culture as it gets….europeans know that , and , janpanese know that

  • Ricardo C. Amaral

    Correction
    And that situation in Afghanistan in 3 or 5 years from now it will not be any different than today and if you think otherwise it is because you are just a fool.

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  • Ricardo C. Amaral

    Only fools participate on Religious wars…
    Reply to Joao da Silva

    Ricardo: In my opinion, only fools participate on religious wars.

    History is full of religious wars and you can read about some of them at:

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war[/url]

    The United States is supposed to be fighting a religious war in Afghanistan.

    Keep in mind that Afghanistan is where former superpowers go to die a slow death.

    Afghanistan:

    Afghanistan is about the same size as Texas in the USA.

    No coastline (landlocked)

    Population: 28 million (July 2009 est.)

    15-64 years: 53% (total 18 million people = male 9 million and female 9 million)

    Life expectancy at birth: total population: 45 years

    Religion: Sunni Muslim 80%, Shia Muslim 19%, other 1%

    Literacy: definition: age 15 and over can read and write
    total population: 28.1%
    male: 43.1%
    female: 12.6% (2000 est.)

    GDP (purchasing power parity) US$ 22 billion (2008 est.)

    GDP (official exchange rate) US$ 12 billion (2008 est.)

    Note: Afghanistan is extremely poor, landlocked, and highly dependent on foreign aid, and the Afghanistan economy is working right now mostly because of the infusion of international assistance.

    Labor Force: 15 million (2004 est.)

    Unemployment rate: 40% (2008 est.)

    Afghanistan government budget:
    revenues: $890 million
    expenditures: $2.7 billion

    Exports: US$ 327 million (2007)

    opium, fruits and nuts, handwoven carpets, wool, cotton, hides and pelts, precious and semi-precious gems

    Source: CIA World Factbook 2009
    Last update on November 30, 2009

    *****

    For all practical purposes today Afghanistan it is just a pile of rocks after being in a state of constant wars since the Soviet Union invaded that country in 1979.

    Afghanistan does not have an infrastructure necessary to be able to operate as a country, and without foreign aid Afghanistan would descend into chaos in no time.

    And that situation in 3 years from now it will not be any different than today and if you think otherwise it is because you are just a fool.

    I thought Barack Obama would be smart than that, but he has disappointed most of his supporters when he decided to make the war in Afghanistan À¢€œObamaÀ¢€™s War.À¢€Â

    In February 2009 Barack Obama sent 17,000 extra US soldiers to Afghanistan and in December 2009 he decided to send another 30,000 soldiers to Afghanistan to help the other 70,000 US soldiers that already are fighting on that religious war for a combined total of 100,000 US soldiers.

    There are another 32,000 NATO soldiers and just God knows how many thousands of Blackwater mercenaries are in the payroll of US government who are also participating of the Afghanistan war. (Mercenaries estimated to be another 104,100.)

    According to a Huffington Post article published on December 13, 2009 À¢€œThe Number of Private Contractors in Afghanistan: 104,100À¢€Â – Private contractors employed by the Defense Department in Afghanistan will continue to outnumber the size of the American troop presence, even after President Obama sends 30,000 more soldiers to fight in the war, according to the military’s most recent contractor count.

    [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/03/the-number-of-private-con_n_378514.html[/url]

    If we combine the US coalition force in Afghanistan 100,000 US soldiers, 32,000 NATO soldiers, plus 104,000 mercenaries we will have a total of 236,000 soldiers fighting in Afghanistan.

    And keep in mind that these coalition armed forces are armed with the most sophisticated warfare armaments in the world.

    Now letˢ۪s give a quick analysis of the enemy at hand in Afghanistan.

    In the last 2 weeks when Barack Obama was making his final decision about how many American soldiers he was willing to send to Afghanistan there were a ton of information on that subject on television and also on the other mainstream media including major newspapers and magazines.

    Who these 236,000 soldiers armed with state-of-the-art armament technology is fighting on this war?

    Believe it or not according to the news they are fighting against 1,000 Al-Qaeda fighters, and about 30,000 Taliban soldiers armed with weapons WW II vintage.

    The ratio of coalition soldiers to Taliban/Al-Qaeda soldiers will be 8 to 1.

    And the worse part of this fiasco is that even with that ratio in favor of the US coalition forces in a few years they are going to leave Afghanistan defeated and demoralized.

    And the ironic end to this story is that the Taliban might end up in power once again.

    From the US perspective the only positive thing about the Afghanistan war is that the US has been fighting this war on credit, since this war has been financed with money borrowed from China year after year.

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  • João da Silva

    Ricardo Amaral
    Hi Ricardo,

    [quote]By the way, when Brazilians go to other countries for their advanced studies they prefer to go to European universities than the U. S. universities À¢€“[/quote]

    Not from this part of Brasil, Ricardo. The preferred destinations for many students to do Doctoral and Post Doctoral studies in Engineering and hard sciences are still U.S. and Canada. Some go to U.K. I have run into many bright Brasilian scholars who have been to the Universities in the Mid West, California and Texas. Now that you mentioned about New York Metropolitan Universities, I must admit that I am yet to come across someone who has been there for Higher studies to N.Y.

    [quote]À¢€œFollyÀ¢€Â À¢€“ À¢€œThe Religious War that Changed the USAÀ¢€Â
    Written by Ricardo C. Amaral [/quote]

    I read this interesting article on the link you posted. I have heard a couple of native born Nth generation American friends of mine, expressing the same views as that of yours! I guess it does not make them un-American nor the non -Americans who share your thoughts Anti American !!

    As for business visits to U.S., right now, the U.S. is the best place to buy IT and other electronic products. For Brasilians who wish to go on tourism to the North American continent,but not to the U.S., Canada is a very attractive alternative. I think Canada has stayed away from this “Religious War” and the only foolish thing that they did was to send their troops to Afghanistan. 😀

  • Ricardo C. Amaral

    Correction
    That has become a one way trip, and Brazilians canÀ¢€™t retaliate on that area, since most of the new business is being done between Brazil and China À¢€“ regarding business Brazilians have a fast declining reason to come to the USA.

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  • Ricardo C. Amaral

    Reply to Forrest Allen Brown
    Forrest Allen Brown: A recorse for the US would be to put Brazil on the watch list stop visa to the US from Brasil for school , tourits , Stop Us citisen from going to brasil on business , vacations , limit transfer of technology , limit all money transfers to brazil .

    *****

    Ricardo: That strategy works both ways.

    By the way, when Brazilians go to other countries for their advanced studies they prefer to go to European universities than the U. S. universities À¢€“ I learned that fact when I was working few years ago on a project geared to bring Brazilian students to study on US universities in the New York Metropolitan area.

    Regarding tourism: Brazilians are the number one foreign visitors to Disney World in Florida. Brazilians can survive without seeing first hand the best American culture has to offer from Mickey Mouse, to Pluto, Goofy, Dopey, Grumpy and so onÀ¢€¦But the Disney company would miss a lot more the revenues generated from the Brazilian tourists in Florida.

    When you think about American culture the first name that comes to mind is Walt Disney, and you can see the best that American culture has to offer at:

    [url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_characters_did_Walt_Disney_create[/url]

    You also said: À¢€œlimit all money transfers to brazil.À¢€Â

    That was the best idea on your posting since that would help stop the massive amount of hot money coming from the US to Brazil.

    You said: À¢€œthe US would be to put Brazil on the watch list.À¢€Â

    The watch list of people who still can think for themselves in an independent way.

    You said: À¢€œStop Us citisen from going to brasil on business.À¢€Â

    That has become a one trip, and Brazilians canÀ¢€™t retaliate on that area, since most of the new business is being done between Brazil and China À¢€“ regarding business Brazilians have a fast declining reason to come to the USA.

    You said: À¢€œThe US is fighting a war not a country to country war but a religous one..À¢€Â

    You can have better insights and perspective about this religious war if you read the following article:

    Brazzil Magazine – March 2002
    À¢€œFollyÀ¢€Â À¢€“ À¢€œThe Religious War that Changed the USAÀ¢€Â
    Written by Ricardo C. Amaral

    [url]https://www.brazzil.com/component/content/article/34-march-2002/6464.html[/url]

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  • Laura

    L your ideas are like so many other people here just becaus you lived in a few first world countries you know it all
    I also lived in poor Eastern European countries too my dear.

    My ideas are like so many other ideas from people from around the world, poor or rich…

    Your ideas, on the other hand, are the real American way of thinking.. Justify American atrocities at all costs..

  • Forrest Allen Brown

    got what i needed to know
    joao

    the sun is in my face the wind is at my back and java is only 980 miles away

    you have a very merry christmass

    houston is not my home town i come from a small place called YANTIS Texas and cathy whitmier was the first gay woman mayor in houston back in the early 80

    L your ideas are like so many other people here just becaus you lived in a few first world countries you know it all

  • asp

    wrong position for the usa to take…..
    i dont think they should be telling people who they should be doing business with…

    same with the postion the fighter jets that “hey, we are the usa, that is enough in itself…”

    that doesnt cut it any more…..

    i really dont think americans get how many people around the world hate them…justified or unjustified….and in the same breath, the usa was voted the country most admired in the world…so it goes both ways….love hate around the world…

    but, id say the usa has to make up for a lot of damage done in the bush years, it was enormas and devastating….

    its not a religous war at all….its against extremists, who hide behind a religion, no differant from abortion doctor killers, the olympic bomber, timithy mcvie, dave koerish (the waco texas guy), christian neo nazi militias and christion ku klux klan…all pond scum fanatics and serious enemies to any society anywhere…

    one billion muslims havent risen up agianst the usa or western values….

    yeah, why should brazil sacrifice trade and diolougue and diplomacy for stuck in the mud policies that arnt working…

    but it would be prudent to go in with ones head up , and eyes open….

    aware of some “what ifs…”

    its not just america, israel and europe that is nervous about iran having the bomb…its all her neighbors…they are nervous also , because of tribal differances and religious sect differances…they would have to arm themselves also ….

    what if iran gets the bomb and israel goes and bombs them ?

    will brazil feel obligated to join with chavez , bolivia, and others to take an emotional side for iran ? leading to a posible deep stand off ?…the type the real american haters dream of where all of south america , unite with cuba, iran, china, russia , pakistan , north korea , russia and every one else they think hates americas guts, and deliver the oh so waited for death knoll to the already weakened declining dying usa ….

    or can brazil step back and let it play out ? being a new power on the block brings enormous responsibilities and headaches as well , like seen in the hondorous situation….bolivians call brazilians gringos …welcome to the club…how does it feel ?

    and no matter what, all the good trade vibes, diplomacy, potential freinds, irans islamic state has issues that put them at fundimental ( literaly) odds with brazilian culture and life style , and, infidelism (im talking about the rulers now , because there are winds of change coming from many people in iran )….which , as i said has no bearing on trade , or , being diplomatic….its just something to note that down in the nitty gritty, there would be fundimental differances…but, brazilians could change to meet stringint dress codes if it had to ,im sure…..the students in sao paulo at that college that harrased that girl almost are there

  • Laura

    Forrest
    I live in Rio.. I’ve never ever lived in the US.. I’ve lived in Europe and Australia before.

    Making comments based on guesses is so stupid.

  • Laura

    Forrest – Ignorant
    [quote]Laura would you a RA like to be sent back to brasil for bashing the US !!! [/quote]

    Honey, you are soooo ignorant that shocks me.. How can you make such an assumption here that I live in the US ? Sure, Im Brazilian but just because I speak English (alongside other few languages) doesn’t make me a US resident sweetheart. So stop with your guessed nonsense here.

    [quote]brasil has also signed the huage treaty on human rights but yet goldman boy is still in brasil !!![/quote]

    So what ? The US signed so many treaties that they broke in numerous occasions… Apart from total disregard to the UN resolution against the war (As the UN ruled the US shouldn’t go ahead of the war), even though the UN has its main office in NY. So one major broken treaty there.. Plus the World Trade Organization in which the US is a signatory, total disregard to its rulling against US farmer subsidies, another broken treaty there.

    The US will disregard and break any treaty or rullings if they are against American interest.. They never do what they preach…

    Forres – Honey, are you sure you are American ? Your English is not native. Maybe you’re Brazilian or citizen of another non English speaking nation who naturalized American. I guess many people told you here it is hard to understand what you write.

  • João da Silva

    Forrest
    Hey Forrest. Good that you too joined the fray!

    [quote]The US is fighting a war not a country to country war but a religous one where the one side wants to eather make everone there religon or kill them so they start with the most powerful and work there way down .[/quote]

    Sorry Forrest, the U.S. is being suckered into fighting a religious war of [i][b]somebody elseÀ‚´s making[/b][/i]. If you pay attention to what DnB writes, one can make out what I want to say. I do not think that U.S. alone will be able to solve the “Christianity” from the other religions .The Europeans are least interested in Christianity, like the South Americans. Now we have a situation where the entire Western World has become materialistic, indifferent to the teachings of the “Book” and totally lost.ie a living in a moral and spiritual vacuum. Under theses circumstances, no modern warfare against other religions is going to save Christianity. If you read the breaking news today, the first one was that your home city elected a lesbian as the Mayor. The second one was Buenos Aires has become the WorldÀ‚´s capital for gays.Big deal. Prostitution and Homosexuality are as ancient as the mankind. So I couldn’t understand why Houston and B.Aires are so proud of projecting themselves as the first in being so “liberal”. On the contrary, Ahmedinejad while in Brasil said in subtle terms that if the entire world becomes gay, there will not be procreation. Indeed it is hard to believe that in Iran, there are no gays and he neither acknowledged not denied its existence. The Roman Catholicism is no big help in defending the Christianity either with their outdated views on priest marriages, abortion, etc;

    So my viewpoint is that U.S. war on other religions is going to be a never ending one and deplete lots of its resources.May be that is what the “European” powers would like to see happening. Do the Brasilians want to get involved in this “religious war”? I do not think so. Unless we want to crown the Pope as our next emperor!

    [quote]Joao you can take there place there [/quote]

    Thanks Forrest. But when the shit hits the fan, I would rather be on your boat. 😉

    BTW, which part of the planet are you right now?

  • Forrest Allen Brown

    So if you trade with Iran
    A recorse for the US would be to put Brazil on the watch list stop visa to the US from Brasil
    for school , tourits ,
    Stop Us citisen from going to brasil on business , vacations , limit transfer of technology , limit all money transfers to brazil .

    Laura would you a RA like to be sent back to brasil for bashing the US !!!

    Irian does that to all forgin peoples it does not like , like lula did to the reportor from the US that wrote the by line showing lula drunk , just deported no hearing or justfaction .
    and brasil has also signed the huage treaty on human rights but yet goldman boy is still in brasil !!!along with 66 others , but the women and men want the money sent to feed the kids but not to have visitation rights . Way to go .

    If all the illeagel brasilians were just sent back from the US without a heraing we would be called names for that but all other countries send al people back to there countries with out hearings and rob them at the same time .

    The US is fighting a war not a country to country war but a religous one where the one side wants to eather make everone there religon or kill them so they start with the most powerful and work there way down .

    but if they get a foot hold in brasil and gain 8% they demand the right to govern themselves under shria law and it gets wores from there .
    JUST look to europ , look at the law the swiss just pased and austrilia sending them home no hearings if you talk bad you are gone .

    think about it L AND ra haveing to go back to live in brazil and never come back to the US again .

    Joao you can take there place there

  • João da Silva

    Ricardo Amaral
    Hi Ricardo,

    [quote]It is just another example of U.S. Loss of Clout, Prestige, and Influence in South America. [/quote]

    The apt and diplomatic title for your comments would be: “[b][i]It is just another example of Brazilian pragmatic diplomacy[/i][/b]”!

    [quote]This trade opportunity with Iran can be worth billions of US dollars in extra international trade for Brazil. [/quote]

    It is called “Trade through Friendship”. 😀

  • Ricardo C. Amaral

    It is just another example of U.S. Loss of Clout, Prestige, and Influence in South America.
    Ricardo: I had posted the following information on the ET Forum almost 3 years ago.

    You can read the entire thread at:

    The United States is planning to attack Iran with Nuclear Weapons
    [url]http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1385252&highlight=Brazilian Embassy in Iran#post1385252[/url]

    Quoting from that thread:

    *****

    03-06-07 10:49 AM

    March 6, 2007

    SouthAmerica: With the United States, and Israel trying very hard to start a war against Iran À¢€“ it is clear to me that the Brazilian government is completely against such a war.

    Brazil has good international relations with Iran, and Brazilians want to keep that way.

    As the United States is forcing European countries (such as Germany) to stop trading with Iran and in the process making European businesses lose a lot of business from Iran À¢€“ Brazil should step in and take this opportunity and sell everything in sight to Iran À¢€“ from foodstuff to anything they need to keep their economy afloat.

    The Brazilian economy certainly can take advantage of this opportunity for the creation of thousands of new jobs in Brazil related to the extra trade with Iran.

    This trade opportunity with Iran can be worth billions of US dollars in extra international trade for Brazil.

    Screw the economic and financial sanctions against Iran.

    ******************

    March 6, 2007

    Enclosed information is from the Homepage of the:
    À¢€œBrazilian EmbassyÀ¢€Â in Iran.

    The Brazilian Embassy in Tehran has launched its homepage with the intention to be a useful tool in the promotion of our bilateral relations with Iran. Although Brazil and Iran have enjoyed cordial and fruitful historic and diplomatic relations for more than a hundred years, Brazilians and Iranians still know little about each other. The distance between the two countries, the cultural and historic experiences that naturally concentrate attention in the immediate geographical space of each nation, and the limited or distorted coverage of both countries by the international media are factors that contribute to this lack of mutual knowledge.

    It is therefore my sincere wish and strong hope that through this webpage it will be possible to fill this gap so that Brazilians and Iranians could contact each other directly, not only to receive trade and tourism information, but also to experience the variety -and similarities- of the background information, in the fields of arts, economics, politics and scientific development, leading to a better understanding of each other nation.

    Luiz AntÀƒ´nio Fachini Gomes
    Ambassador

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  • Juan


    [quote]Human rights violations in Iran are just not that big of a deal to Brazil (the Jewish community is upset about the country’s president’s denial of the Holocaust and the homosexual community does not like Iran’s persectuion of gays, but that won’t greatly infuence Lula).[/quote]

    So what do you suggest? Brazil should be their enemies and bomb them in order to make them pay for their human rights violations ? Thats the US way of thinking honey, not ours.

    Brazilians protested against Iran’s president when he was in Brazil over the human rights issue. However, we don’t intend to become their enemies over that. It’s up to the Iranian people to change their own country.

    It took decades of fights for Brazilian people to abolish slavery, human rights for women, homosexual etc, and it’s still not perfect yet as you can all read many articles here about corruption etc.. We’re still fighting to achieve a corrupt free country and eradicate poverty.

    Let the Iranian people achieve their goals at their own pace.

    The US cannot impose their views to another country. And we all know that the US is not concerned about the Human Rights violations in Iran..

    We all know the US government violates the Human Rights of all detainees in Guantanamo Bay by torturing them and without trials. So the US government has no morals to be moaning about Iranian human rights violations. The US government should stick to what they do best: Nothing.

  • João da Silva

    [quote]Brazil, like most countries, is selective in its indignation over human rights violations. [/quote]

    You hit the nail on the right spot, dear. It is called “Pragmatic Diplomacy”. If the Americans and the Europeans are so concerned about “Human Rights Violations”, they or we the Brasilians wouldn’t be buying products made in PRC, . Andrade is right when he said about “sharing (?!)” the land and money,though the “shares” are distributed only to selective few. 😀 😉

  • Steph

    Brazil/Iran
    The U.S. warning Brazil about getting too close to Iran is likely to push Brazil towards Iran. Brazil wants to show its independence from the U.S. and to get a bigger role on the world stage. Human rights violations in Iran are just not that big of a deal to Brazil (the Jewish community is upset about the country’s president’s denial of the Holocaust and the homosexual community does not like Iran’s persectuion of gays, but that won’t greatly infuence Lula). Brazil, like most countries, is selective in its indignation over human rights violations. Cuban authorities and government-backed crowds, broke up rallies on Human Rights Day in Havana, and you did not hear a peep of protest from Brazilian government authorities. In fact, I didn’t even see any mention in the Brazilian media. Lula is about as objective regarding Cuba as Ronald Reagan was about South Africa under apaertheid.

  • Double-Dot

    What exactly is the opinion of that fella Harry Potter on this issue, though we don’t trust the judgment of the Limeys ?

    God bless America.

  • Laura

    About this issue
    [quote]In a question and answer session with participants in the event, Clinton said the United States has “no problem” with non-Western Hemisphere countries like China having legitimate business and investment activities in Latin America.[/quote]

    We have millions of problems with the US too Hillary darling. Unfair trade by the US government with its farmers is one(which the World Trade Organization ruled in favor of Brazil that it is unfair and the US didn’t care at all about the rulling from this international organization in which the US is signatory).

    So Im glad you have a problem with us honey. Don’t try to impose that your enemies should be our enemies too. You’re alone on that sweetheart. Be happy with your enemies yourselves and Let us be.

  • Juan

    I don’t recall Powell/Rumsfeld worrying about Iraq and Saddam Hussein in 2002/2003.
    Let’s not forget that the US not just didn’t worried about Iraq but previous US presidents constantly traded with Iraq by selling US weapons to Saddam Hussein.

    Brazil has always had a friendly policy with regards to other nations: make friends and not enemies. What’s the nation on Earth which hate us? None.

    To Hillary Clinton here: We don’t share the same views as you Americans. Change other nations and force democracy on them by bombing them. The US is as democratic and just as a rotten banana. Go back to your husband and bark somewhere else because half of the world are your enemies anyway.

  • João da Silva

    Zico
    [quote]I don’t recall Powell/Rumsfeld worrying about Iraq and Saddam Hussein in 2002/2003. [/quote]

    Your real name must be Rip Van Winkle! 😀

    [quote]Got any quotes?[/quote]

    Go back and read back issues of some [i][b]U.S[/b][/i] Newspapers and Magazines.

    [quote]Yet another Che-wannabe statement from da Silva.[/quote]

    Which da Silva are you talking about, JoÀƒ£o da Silva or [b][i]Mr.da Silva[/i][/b]?

    [quote]People like you take any opportunity to throw a rock at the former Bush administration, [/quote]

    I learned a lot time ago not to throw stones at Laranjas!

    [quote]Lula won’t recognize Honduras’ very constitutional election[/quote]

    If you have read my previous comments, you would understand my position on this issue. As far as Honduras is concerned, it is not important to us from the [i][b]Trade[/b][/i] point of view,but Iran is. Besides, the American and European “Leaders” can not dictate our foreign policy. Period. In fact, I am glad that Mexico is giving Zelaya a political asylum, saving Brasilian Tax Payers money.

  • Andrade

    The Gringoes should stay out of our affairs!
    The Iranians have a good idea in having a Revolutionary Guard.We need to silence reactionary forces.
    Comrades Lula ,Hugo,Castro, and our friends in Iran will fight against the northern Gringo thieves, and make our countries a better place to live and work together as Brothers.
    We will fight together with our friends in Iran to make the Bomb, spread Gods word and share land and money!

  • Zico

    Rumsfeld?
    I don’t recall Powell/Rumsfeld worrying about Iraq and Saddam Hussein in 2002/2003. Got any quotes? I don’t recall Lula hugging Saddam Hussein in Brasilia at that time. Actually he was working on hiding from US marines.

    Yet another Che-wannabe statement from da Silva. People like you take any opportunity to throw a rock at the former Bush administration, which, as history is already proving, were right in everything they did.

    Lula won’t recognize Honduras’ very constitutional election, but Iran is OK. And none of you Che’s have a word to say about it.

  • João da Silva

    [quote]Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, urged Latin American countries on Friday to “think twice” about establishing links with Iran, which she said is the world’s leading promoter and exporter of terrorism.[/quote]

    Didn’t Collin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld say almost the same thing about Iraq and Saddam Hussein in 2002/2003? 😀

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