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With 150,000 Illegals from Brazil, UK Decides to Impose Visas for Brazilians

Gatwick airport in London A global economy but not so much of a global understanding, at least when it comes to immigration policy between Brazil and Great Britain. According to a news bulletin released by Agência Estado, the British government has announced their intention of demanding an entry visa for Brazilians visiting the UK effective 2009. Currently Brazilians only need to show a passport.

Even though, a visa is presently not required, Brazilians do need to go for a small interview upon arrival at UK airports and many end up being refused entry in the country. In 2008 alone, 5,000 Brazilians have not been allowed into the UK following their interview upon landing at British airports. Back in 2006 this number was 11,000.
 
The controversy started two months ago, when Brazil was placed under a "suspect countries" list, due to the high number of illegal immigrants and other crimes. The newspaper article also informed that British government is demanding that Brazil should incorporate "mitigation mechanisms", such as hiring a British police officer at Guarulhos – São Paulo International Airport.
 
Such "international connection official" as the British police officer would be called, would provide training for airline companies regarding passports, ID cards, and frauds. The news bulletin also informed that the UK Government is requiring travel agencies to interview Brazilian tourists to the UK, and not to sell tickets to those who may not be a "genuine" visitor, businessmen, tourist or student. Such measure would be an attempt to prevent travel agencies in Brazil from facilitating the entrance of illegal immigrants into UK.
 
In a letter delivered by hand to Brazilian Foreign Minister, Celso Amorim at Itamaraty (Brazil Diplomatic Agency) and Justice Minister, Tarso Genro, British Ambassador Peter Collecott was adamant: "Unless we can work together in the next six months, there will be no other option other than introduce a visa requirement process for Brazil."
 
In a letter signed by David Miliband, the British Foreign Secretary Minister, and Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, the British government announced to be "seriously concerned" with the percentage of Brazilians staying in the UK longer than their permitted time or who have been working illegally.

The Visa Waiver Test, the politics responsible for evaluating countries based on immigration, criminality, terrorism, and other risks, recommended that Brazil should be under a "probatory stage". British Government also indicated that currently there are 150,000 illegal Brazilian immigrants in UK.
 
According to Agência Estado, Brazil has 4 million citizens living overseas, of which 1.5 million live in the United States, 400,000 in Paraguay, 400,000 in Japan, and the remaining in country members of the European community, Canada and Australia.
 
Edison Bernardo DeSouza is a journalist, having graduated from the Pontifical Catholic University in São Paulo, Brazil. He lived in the US and Canada for close to 10 years and participated in volunteering activities in social works agencies. DeSouza currently lives in São Paulo where he teaches English as a Second Language, and is pursuing further advancements in his career. He is particularly interested in economics and human rights articles.

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  • dnbaiacu

    [quote]if it was not for the immigrants who would you be on top of ?

    [/quote]
    Not necessarily directed at Ch.c..But this was on point 😉
    Maximus,,, capitalism is so old and established there is really no use complaining about it. There really isn’t any better alternatives. The best thing one can do is learn how to effectively navigate through the system . Those that are usually “victimized” by capitalism generation after generation are those less adept at following certain principles and moral standards and ethics. Either by ignorance of the principles or the simple “choice” not to follow them once exposed to them.
    Truth be told capitalism is the best imperfect human system that allows for a freer flow of the “universe” rewarding your particular train of thought. If you “think” poor , you will remain poor monetarily and “feel” poor. If you “think” rich, you may have a better chance of becoming so monetarily in a capitalistic society or at best “feel” rich within so what you have or don’t have materially doesn’t even matter as much.
    Socialism in its purist form is too “taxing” (pun intended) and pure communism is simply unfair because everyone gets the same notwithtanding how “rich” or “poor” they think.
    I don’t know if you are a Bible reader , but the book of Proverbs and the “Sermon on the Mount” ( matthew chapters 5-7) can help ANYONE successfully navigate through the sometimes brutal world of capitalism. Let’s just be glad we have these instructions.
    Work hard, keep your overhead low, and only have kids when you can afford them ,, and stay away from costly habits.
    In Brazil,, put a big part of the blame of the condition of the masses on the predominance of the Catholic churh (which by the way controls MORE of the countries wealth that is NOT being equitably distributed than you might imagine) . The instiitution promotes ignorance. They politically involve themselves in outlawing abortion and for centuries discouraged the use of contraceptives. This is probably one third of Brazils problem in general. The ruling class KNOWS this holds the poor down so they keep this sytem in place. All the while CARNIVAL is glorified. The most morally irresponsible time of the year. The poor spend even more money . And the rich make that much more.
    IGNORANCE is the victim of Capitilisms enemy. 🙁 Capitalism can be your friend.. Depending on HOW YOU THINK 😉

  • maximus ds

    for this person who answer and criticize my comments , i would point my finger at you , you are the kind of people immigrants should be afraid of , and stand up against , for your stupid comments i can tell you do not know what you talking about , with all the resources brazil has i do see no reason why who can not rise our minimun wages , and created new labors laws to rise the standers of wages of brasil to level up to the same wages developed countries have , . the lack of education , social services and a fair labor law which would guarantee brasilian people at least the basics of a living , like housing ,food , and health care has kept brasil between the poorest nations on the world although it has enough resources to give every citizen a fair chance in life which also would give them no reason to want to migrate to lands and countries where haters and racist blended with patriotism people claim to have been invaded by all these immigrants to steal them of what are their by rights and birth citizenship . for the whole bush administration immigrants in america has paid and will pay with their life for their courage and blind adventure to think if they immigrate to these countries they lives will improve , by the way america which should be a example of tolerance and understand when it cames to immigration has show exactly the other side which is hate and persecution .
    for the gentleman comments all i can tell you about robbing you from anything , the only thing immigrants are robbing you is of your misery , because they are taking your place . my question for you is . if it was not for the immigrants who would you be on top of . by your writting i can tell you are a very uneducated person . and you would qualify more than i would for the sugar cane cutter job than i would .

  • maximus ds

    capitalism down fall
    been a brasilian citizen living in the usa for more than fifteen years has given me the real reason to believe that we brasilians have been cheated and robed of our own wealth and resources , by our own leaders whom for a couple of millian dollars sells out our own souls and lively hood to big corporations and first world countries financial and commercial interests . for the last fifty years brasil has gain little or no part in the transfer of wealth in this so call capitalist world , although been the 8th economy of the world , with more resources and citizens than a lot of countries which today is considered a 1st world country brasil has been robed of its wealth and resources . with more than 50 % of the citizens living with a little more of $100 us dollars a month it is not the hard to figure out why brasil mighty never achieve a 1st world status , it is outrage how big corporations has time after time turn to corrupt brasilian politicians to help them rob the brasilian people of its resources and future leaving them nothing but a dream of maybe if they leave to another country they mighty have a better chance with their dream of a better life , not knowing that they dream of a better life in an other country mighty turn out to be their worse nightmare and the deception of their lives . with developed countries now enforcing and creating new laws to stop immigration . and new era has just arrived . “the era of exclusion ” these countries has gather and control enough wealth of the world now that they now even has started to build a fence around to protect their wealth and keep out unwelcome visitors or prospect immigrants , this is what really capitalism is all about . it is a shame that any brasilian have to leave their own country to try a better chance in life in countries that hate their presence and they do not even know about it

  • Michelle Araujo

    I understand that something needs to be done to prevent an escalating situation of illegality and crime. It is unfortunate that it came to this point. But I have witnessed many Brazilians opening bank accounts, asking for loans and disappearing without paying. I also am aware of many Brazilians buying fake Portuguese passports and asking for welfare. I know that Brazilians are terribly patriotic and generally dont agree when the truth is displayed. However, I agree with the new policies. I think that there are lots of people who shouldnt be here. This is my country and I hate when I see people taking advantage of it. Sorry, but we dont need that here. Students – Welcome. Criminals should be in a Brazilian jail!

  • João da Silva

    Forrest
    [quote]in some cases you have to admire the chinese break a law no matter who you are and the higher up you are the worse the punshument , death , life a very short one in a laubor camp with no medical or care , in some cases the whole family is put up as an example .[/quote]

    They cant afford to let the thieves go unpunished, like we do. As far as I can remember, the modern China is being governed by Technocrats. isn’t Jintao a Civil Engineer? Please check it out before you leave the country.

  • forrest allen brown

    yes mail order brides come to the US and other places very quick !

    but if you live in brasil and marry one it is a different matter , it took over 2 years for my wife to get her visa as i do not live in the US I had to prove i could support her if we were ever to return to the states they did not want another person on welfare , WHAT A JOKE THAT IS , look at all thoes that are on it now that dont deserv it .

    there many minds in brasil going to waste as no real education for them they can only go as far as the class system will let them go .

    I do not blame any person for trying to better themselves by leaving a repressed government state , mas long as it is not for going to live off the fat of another country .

    and yes there are a bunch of people hiding in brasil , but look at how many crooks from other lands are trying to hide in the US .

    18 mexicans on death roo in the US 9 of them are wanted for killing someone in mexico . we will kill them first then send them back to mexico .
    4 brasilians are also there for same reason 1200 brasilians are in prison in the US for realted drug , theft , asults , but you only here about the few who go to jail and dont tell the guards that they ate all there drugs and die of an overdoes . several have left the US going to england only to be sent back as they did not get there visa stamped in the US as they left from canda just not to be deported back to brasil , while in england they apply for a vise to the US after they gwet a new pasport from the brasil printing company in england and with a clean pasport and a slight name change off they go again

    next year the new type reactor will be off the paper and be ready to be built somewhere in the world , much smaller , and safer ,.

    you should see china

    the human traffic is delt with death if caught . not the people but the people selling fake papers , selling women and children into sweat shops or sex slaves ,
    in some cases you have to admire the chinese break a law no matter who you are and the higher up you are the worse the punshument , death , life a very short one in a laubor camp with no medical or care , in some cases the whole family is put up as an example .

  • u.s. border

    brazil,s illegal export
    and lets not forget the 10,s of thousands of illegal brazilians in the u.s.a.,who have been found to have fraudelent counterfit documents,a lack of education,low skilled ,inherently criminal,arrogant,law breakers,tax evaders,anti- american,and have no respect for american laws…..illegal aliens in the u.s.a. are facing certain deportation when apprehended ,and most americans want them to leave ….brazil is not only a suspect nation ,,but it is a high offender of u.s. immigration laws…

  • João da Silva

    Ch.c
    [quote]I see your arguments coming, but dont forget that you have in fact 2 major labor laws deep problems : [/quote]

    No, Ch.c, I did not forget. You are absolutely right and I am not going to question the two factors you mentioned. The second factor is as serious as the first one, though it does not apply to the high level government employees (registered or not). However, it does apply to small private companies that register the workers (and sign their death warrants). I am not really exaggerating and it is so humiliating for a small entrepreneur to go in front of a Judge (especially the Lady Judges are worse) and be called a “thief” and accused of treating the “workers as slaves”. It does kill the initiative of any Brazilian to try to help the ” have nots ” to get into the class of “Haves” . I can tell stories about this issue,but I reserve my rights to remain silent!

    As for your criticisms of Maximus and Augustus, you are unnecessarily nasty towards them. They consist of the group of educated and rare Brazilians who are willing to discuss serious issues and help to correct the course the country is taking. As I said many times, not all the Brazilians are dumb. Many are outspoken, many quiet and TOO MANY TOO submissive.It is a food for thoughts and think about it 😉

  • ch.c

    To Joao :”The labor laws in the country are outdated and long overdue for reforms ”
    I see your arguments coming, but dont forget that you have in fact 2 major labor laws deep problems :

    The first is for NON registered workers having basically NO rights and NO social protection !
    The second is for registered workers having TOO MANY rights…with TOO MUCH social protection ! And this cost a fortune not only to your municipal/state/federal budgets but also penalize the companies.

    And one of the main reason of your lack of health care, infrastructure, education, social housing, social programs is the cost of your various administrations, plus the corruption practices that reduce further what remains in the purse to be spreaded to the majority of the society.
    And as long as Brazil doesnt handle the problems of their administrations costs, they simply cant even afford to handle those with No rights or No social coverage or No registered jobs.
    I remind you that Brazil has less than 30 millions registered workers out of a work force of 85-90 millions and that your unemployment rate of 8 % or so is based only on the registered workers.

  • ch.c

    “and health care has kept brasil between the poorest nations on the world although it has enough resources ”
    Maximus, you UNDERSTATE the reality !
    Brazil has NOT kept the country BETWEEN the poorest nations….. as you wrote.
    Reality is that Brazil has the World Highest Poverty Rate, when measured against the GDP per capita.
    I challenge any Brazilian, including the Genius Augustus, to prove me wrong not with overall disagreements but with facts and stats…if he can !!! Agreing or disagreing doesnt make one more correct or wrong unless accompanied with objective and acceptable stats and numbers.
    lains why Brazil has one of the World Highest Wealth Inequality.
    The very few countries with more wealth inequality are poorer countries than Brazil.
    But the majority of poorer countries than Brazil have a lower wealth inequality than Brazil has.
    On the other side, 100 % of the devekoped countries and 100 % of the emerging countries wealthier than Brazil have a lower
    wealth inequality than Brazil.

    Conclusion is that whatever they have in their ground they have still very little in their brains.
    Developed nations have little in their ground but are more wealthy, more developed and with less wealth inequality, lower poverty rate….than Brazil !!!!!

    Brazil always believe they are the best in the world, readings their comments, but never proven by facts and stats !
    And when facts and stats prove their assumptions and pretentions wrong, they still are sure they are the world best.
    Prove they have not a well developed brain for analysis and pretentions !!!!

  • João da Silva

    Maximus ds
    [quote]with all the resources brazil has i do see no reason why who can not rise our minimun wages , and created new labors laws to rise the standers of wages of brasil to level up to the same wages developed countries have , . the lack of education , social services and a fair labor law which would guarantee brasilian people at least the basics of a living , like housing ,food , and health care has kept brasil between the poorest nations on the world although it has enough resources to give every citizen a fair chance in life which also would give them no reason to want to migrate to lands and countries[/quote]

    I read both your comments and you have come out with some points that many sane Brazilians discuss among themselves.But the above part about the ” fair labor laws” stimulated me into expressing my views:

    The labor laws in the country are outdated and long overdue for reforms and the current government is not going to look into this urgent necessity. The current laws do not take into consideration , the interest of our workers nor the small and medium sized businesses, thus discouraging any entrepreneur (be a Brazilian or foreigner) from investing in enterprises to generate jobs and bring prosperity to ordinary citizens.On the contrary, the policy is to create more jobs both in the Labor courts and outsource their task to the labor unions, where the salaries are higher of first world level (or higher)!

    It is a sad reality and unfortunately we,the voiceless tax payers have to shut up and put up with it.I do not see any light at the end of the tunnel, in spite of being an optimistic person!

  • João da Silva

    Simpleton
    [quote]As time is a wasting, maybe you would do me the favor of putting together a list of by air transits Brasil-EU direct that do not require visas either for Brasileiros or Gringo’s Norte Americanos. Turns out only some of our party are holding Italian passports.[/quote]

    To my knowledge, the Brazilian passport holders do not require visas to any country in the EU, though they can be turned back at the ports of entry if they do not show proof that they have enough funds to sustain themselves during their stay in EU. The popular ports of entry are Frankfurt,Madrid,Paris,Lisbon and Rome. I read in the newspapers that the Spanish authorities are giving hard time for the visitors from Brazil.

    I would imagine that the U.S. citizens do not require visas to most of the countries in EU.

    If I were to join an excursion group, my preferred port of entry would be London and then to EU through Euro Tunnel!

    Hopefully Augustus sees my comments and gives you additional info.

    [quote]I’ll copy and paste, run my keen eye across the requested interpolatable text and get back to you. [/quote]

    No need to translate and get back to me. I was just pulling our friend ForrestÀ‚´s leg! I know he is quite busy mingling with the “Natives” and enjoying their hospitality.

  • ch.c

    Oops typing mistake….
    – Are they not creating hundreds OF THOUSANDS of above average paid jobs ?

  • ch.c

    Stupid questions to Brazilians :
    What does Brazil against foreign illegals…in Brazil ?
    What are your policies ?

    Outside of illegals, doesnt Brazil request a visa for many many foreign countries citizens ??????

    And to Maximus : funny your filthy statements, because then using the same therory as YOU do, then YOU Maximus is robing the USA !
    Prove me wrong…if you can.
    And others stupid questions just for you :
    – How would Brazil be with ONE car, if foreign manufacturers did not set up shops….in Brazil ?
    – Are they not creating hundreds of above average paid jobs ?
    – Is this robing ?
    – If you want to stopped being robbed, then why do you insist to Export….MORE ? DONT YOU THINK THAT YOUR DESCENDANTS COULD LATER USE THE SAME FILTHY STATEMENTS AS YOURS….USING YOUR OWN THEORY ??????

    I just remind you dear junkie, that without FOREIGN tractors, you would still harvest cotton, corn, soyabeans….MANUALLY…as you still do mostly with your sugarcane fields despite mechanical harvesters exist for several decades…not years.
    Because Brazil has never invested in R&D or so badly you are not competitive. Same for seeds, GMO or not. If 90 % are made by foreign companies it is simply because YOUR farmers know the foreign seeds are VASTLY superiors to YOURS.

    – Same for the timber you export. None were ever stolen from foreigners.

    Finally : if you think Bin the Crook is exporting already too much, why dont you write him ???????? Because as said earlier it is all the base of what you call ROBBING !!!!!
    Hopefully a job could be found for you as a sugarcane cutter…for your OWN local consumption. Everything else would enter in your definition of robbing !!!!!
    Idiots growth is huge…in Brazil !

  • AUGUSTUS

    Double-Dot
    There is absolutely no question about your wise observation! British Ladies (particularly those who are…breath taking in physical appearance) shoud be above and beyond any law…

    After all, there are LIMITS for even the most sensible regulations… I dare say most gentlemen (or even those who are NOT quite as “gentle”) are bound to concur with you without any hint of hesitation! 😀

  • Simpleton

    to the rescue
    Joao, Forrest is likely a bit busy. Exodus is traffic prone. I’ll copy and paste, run my keen eye across the requested interpolatable text and get back to you. Busy weekend so don’t waste time – chill some more, at least the more germanic / Belgium monk types I have in the garage are drinkable warm!

    As time is a wasting, maybe you would do me the favor of putting together a list of by air transits Brasil-EU direct that do not require visas either for Brasileiros or Gringo’s Norte Americanos. Turns out only some of our party are holding Italian passports.

  • João da Silva

    Forrest
    Hey Forrest, you are urgently required to decode the following in plain English:

    [quote]fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
    Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe o=t of 100 can.
    i cdnuolt blveiee taht = cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The
    phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to = rscheearch at Cmabrigde
    Uinervtisy, i dseno’t mtaetr =n waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny
    iproam=nt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The
    rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll=20 raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is
    bcuseae the huamn =nid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a
    wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpel=ng was ipmorantt! if you
    can raed tihs forwrad it [/quote]

    If you cant decode, better ask your Chinese interpreter to do it!

    =/FONT>

  • Double-Dot

    Augustus
    [quote]Indeed, this particular issue represents a significant personal dilemma, and, therefore, a very hard matter to warrant À¢€œside-takingÀ¢€Â.[/quote]

    My Lord, I understand your “personal dilemma”, but please permit me to take sides. I think that our Government should not restrict the entry of British females into our country.Especially the good looking and well behaved ones that speak impeccable QueenÀ‚´s English.If you stop to ponder my views, I am sure you would agree with my humble statement. 🙂

  • AUGUSTUS

    Regretable yet understandable
    As a Brazilian national currently a US citizen, I sympathize with the aspirations of fellow Brazilians to relocate to a site more “fitting” to his/her “inclinations and objectives…

    On the other hand, as a self-appointed “expert” of British Culture, History and “political traditions” I can understand London’s point of view vis-ÀƒÂ -vis the tangible evidence it may hold regarding a possible “abuse” of the flexibility it had graciously honored Brazil & its citizens…

    Indeed, this particular issue represents a significant personal dilemma, and, therefore, a very hard matter to warrant À¢€œside-takingÀ¢€Â.

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